Post: #26

Relevant (from ROK):



For a girl that is naturally small boned, and has not put on muscle from athletic training, a 17 BMI is not low at all. But that's now illegal.

BMI as a tool to assess individuals is absolute pseudoscience. Especially when those individuals are physically exceptional by definition, as runway models are. It's a testament to the piss poor quality of conventional nutritional guidelines. I would challenge these hucksters to show any proof that small boned women with 17 BMI are any less healthy than women with a 24-25 BMI, which is considered healthy by the authorities, but in actuality is quite fat on a woman who doesn't do serious resistance training.

It will be interesting to see how the industry responds. Will bigger framed models come to the fore? Will the currently skinny models put on some muscle in unobtrusive places (i.e. hips and ass)? That's a potential silver lining for the assmen among us.

One thing you can bet on: the models won't get fatter. Fat is a hallmark of the lower classes (it literally correlates with it), and runway fashion is a matter of seeming high status through appearance. Especially for a woman, looking haute is impossible when fat.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/03/health/obe...ybe-worse/

"Based on their findings, Braverman and his coauthor, New York State Commissioner of Health Nirav Shah, M.D., say the BMI threshold for obesity, which now stands at 30, should be lowered to 24 for women and 28 for men."

If you are going to regulate such matters, it would be better to set lower and upper bounds for acceptable BMI. But even that is silly, because muscle weight can make an obese BMI actually healthy. If you must regulate such matters, I'd propose an acceptable range of say 13-25% body fat percentage for women, and 7-15% for men (these are just rough numbers I'm tossing out). Using body fat percentages shuts down the "I'm big boned!" argument completely.

Post: #27

The issue is that they are using BMI to discriminate models from the stage. Don't get me wrong, I've never found the heroin chic or anorexia sexy, but this is a limitation on what people are supposed to see as "attractive". BMI as stated before is a simple measurement of bodyweight divided by height, so for a 200 lb bodybuilder at 6ft and 7% bf, you're classified as "overweight". The same goes for an extremely tiny girl, I have a friend who is 5'3" and 105 lbs, and she is technically just underweight and wouldn't be able to walk a runway in France, although she's perfectly healthy, eats extremely well, but just doesn't have the bone structure to add weight.

Its a stupid law, and France will see its fashion industry shrink, because fashion models have bodies that make clothes look a certain way, and are contracted based on how they clothes fall on them. Some of these girls are anorexic, some of these girls are just naturally like this. It's skinny shaming in the purest form.

Post: #28

(04-04-2015 02:57 AM)turkishcandy Wrote:  So the law passed and the minimum acceptable BMI level, the one they chose to hide for all this time, is 18. Just so we are clear, below are photos of girls with BMI lower than 18 and therefore are ILLEGAL to hire now in France.
(Adrianna Lima [BMI of 17.6], Candice Swanepoel [BMI of 17.7] and Alessandro Ambrosio [BMI of 16.3])
17.9
17.1

I'd bang all of them raw. The mere thought of using a condom on any of these makes the spirits of my ancestors cry.

Post: #29

Thought I'd bump this thread with a related Article with Brit taking offense:

Quote:Model in Gucci Ad Is Deemed ‘Unhealthily Thin’ by British Regulator

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/07/busine....html?_r=0

Quote:LONDON — The model in the Gucci ad is young and waiflike, her frail body draped in a geometric-pattern dress as she leans back in front of a wall painted with a tree branch that appears to mimic the angle of her silhouette.

On Wednesday, the Advertising Standards Authority of Britain ruled that the ad was “irresponsible” and that the model looked “unhealthily thin,” fanning a perennial debate in the fashion industry over when thin is too thin.

The regulator said that the way the woman in the image had posed elongated her torso and accentuated her waist, so that it appeared to be very small. It said her “somber facial expression and dark makeup, particularly around her eyes, made her face look gaunt.” It said the offending image — a still photograph of the model that appeared in an online video posted on the website of The Times of London in December — should not appear again in its current form.

The specific image was removed from the video on Gucci’s YouTube channel, though the model still appears in the ad directed by Glen Luchford.



he Italian fashion brand, for its part, had defended the ad, saying it was part of a video that portrayed a dance party and that was aimed at an older and sophisticated audience. Nowhere in the ads were any models’ bones visible, it said, and they were all “toned and slim.” It noted that “it was, to some extent, a subjective issue as to whether a model looked unhealthily thin,” according to the authority.

Post: #30

This shit is Orwellian. The good news is it is unlikely to get this bad here in the US.

Post: #31

(04-07-2016 01:30 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

One look at that video is all you need to know for sure - the goal of women's fashion is not to make them appear attractive to heterosexual men.

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold

Post: #32

5 lbs underweight- "OMG this is so dangerous! We need to do something!"
150 lbs overweight- "Health comes in all sizes!"

Post: #33

If people are dying from the diseases associated with obesity THOUSANDS of times more often than the diseases associated with anorexia, isn't this socially irresponsible? It's going to cost a lot of people their lives. And their toes. And their feet.

Post: #34

(04-08-2016 04:23 AM)Benoit Wrote:  

(04-07-2016 01:30 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

One look at that video is all you need to know for sure - the goal of women's fashion is not to make them appear attractive to heterosexual men.

Agreed.

Sad.

Just compare to one of my favorite, obscure-to-Americans-French-Film, La Piscine:





Distinct masculinity. Distinct femininity. Gorgeous. Charged with desire and action.

That Gucci video is a Kafkaesque, androgynous horror. Everyone in that looks sick, both mentally and physically. Men and women somehow both manage to be faggots, in la danse macabre. No desire. No focus. No passion. Just gyrating, aimlessly, until they whither away as demented automatons.

Everyone in La Piscine looks like a model of health in comparison. Murderous passion, romance, lust, rage. Yet, human in the extreme form.