Post: #101

(03-18-2015 03:28 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Don't fall for the divide here that they want to create: left against right, Christians vs. Atheists, black vs. white, men vs. women, richer vs. poorer (super-rich are untouchable by all changes), Democrats vs. Republicans.

We all have way more in common than it seems here. Those above are all false dichotomies and traps for the mind. We have to try and rise above this at least in areas like here.

Yes, deep down we all want the same basic things.

A safe/secure area to live peacefully and raise our kids with the least amount of stress as possible. I think deep down this is what all people want.

And I believe men for the most part can peacefully work out how to achieve this.

The underlying problem is that once you give women the right to vote that within a few generations all bets are off on achieving this. They simply don't have the ability to put rational thought over emotional thought and the end result is a disaster. IMO, this is the crux of the red pill.

Post: #102

(03-18-2015 04:00 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 03:28 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Don't fall for the divide here that they want to create: left against right, Christians vs. Atheists, black vs. white, men vs. women, richer vs. poorer (super-rich are untouchable by all changes), Democrats vs. Republicans.

We all have way more in common than it seems here. Those above are all false dichotomies and traps for the mind. We have to try and rise above this at least in areas like here.

Yes, deep down we all want the same basic things.

A safe/secure area to live peacefully and raise our kids with the least amount of stress as possible. I think deep down this is what all people want.

And I believe men for the most part can peacefully work out how to achieve this.

The underlying problem is that once you give women the right to vote that within a few generations all bets are off on achieving this. They simply don't have the ability to put rational thought over emotional thought and the end result is a disaster. IMO, this is the crux of the red pill.

I think you wish others well and hope things will work well for them, but also this seems rather defeatist. Since it's not remotely realistic to remove the right to vote from women in current society, the only solution I've heard from those who advocate this is a return to some fantasy of post-apocalyptic existence when men again take control.

This is something only a tiny minority of people really want, to again subsist and mistrust every stranger in a lawless world.

Does this actually boil down to you:

a) Hoping for economic collapse etc. as the only "solution"

b) Genuinely thinking that all the efforts of the smartest people in the world cannot forestall that? You think you know more than all the solar engineers, economists, military experts, ALL the brilliant people in the world who almost uniformly DON'T want a post apocalyptic world?

I've been forced to face that since I was weeded out from the Ivy League/MIT/CalTech track in adolescence, I have hardly ever even come in contact with the smartest people in the world. I think they tend to group together and don't invite me.

My contacts with genius have been very limited. I saw a lecture by Brian Eno, concerts by Miles Davis, Lecture by Jaron Lanier-- these people are on a very different level than I am for sure.

Post: #103

(03-18-2015 04:22 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 04:00 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 03:28 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Don't fall for the divide here that they want to create: left against right, Christians vs. Atheists, black vs. white, men vs. women, richer vs. poorer (super-rich are untouchable by all changes), Democrats vs. Republicans.

We all have way more in common than it seems here. Those above are all false dichotomies and traps for the mind. We have to try and rise above this at least in areas like here.

Yes, deep down we all want the same basic things.

A safe/secure area to live peacefully and raise our kids with the least amount of stress as possible. I think deep down this is what all people want.

And I believe men for the most part can peacefully work out how to achieve this.

The underlying problem is that once you give women the right to vote that within a few generations all bets are off on achieving this. They simply don't have the ability to put rational thought over emotional thought and the end result is a disaster. IMO, this is the crux of the red pill.

I think you wish others well and hope things will work well for them, but also this seems rather defeatist. Since it's not remotely realistic to remove the right to vote from women in current society, the only solution I've heard from those who advocate this is a return to some fantasy of post-apocalyptic existence when men again take control.

This is something only a tiny minority of people really want, to again subsist and mistrust every stranger in a lawless world.

Does this actually boil down to you:

a) Hoping for economic collapse etc. as the only "solution"

b) Genuinely thinking that all the efforts of the smartest people in the world cannot forestall that? You think you know more than all the solar engineers, economists, military experts, ALL the brilliant people in the world who almost uniformly DON'T want a post apocalyptic world?

I've been forced to face that since I was weeded out from the Ivy League/MIT/CalTech track in adolescence, I have hardly ever even come in contact with the smartest people in the world. I think they tend to group together and don't invite me.

My contacts with genius have been very limited. I saw a lecture by Brian Eno, concerts by Miles Davis, Lecture by Jaron Lanier-- these people are on a very different level than I am for sure.

Eventually things will change. We can't borrow money forever, the western world is drowning in debt and things only continue to get worse. Liberal economics = the false belief that competition is not a necessary process in life. It is why liberal economics fail. Competition is simply the basis for life, and not just in the human world.

I don't want a societal collapse. Myself and many of my loved ones may very well die, and die in a horrible manner if this happens. I just know the reality is we can't keep going with this current system and for it to last forever. Women and men are simply biologically designed differently for different roles and fighting against this biological fact will lead to some kind of change.

My hope is that enough young men wake up and stop white knighting and helping to prop up this system that finally women are truly treated as equals. Worked to the bone, treated like shit by the govt., ignored when out in society, and watch men choosing women from feminine regions of the world. And finally they get fed up enough to come to terms that they don't have to vote and have such shitty lives. I don't know if this is a possibility or not. I do know that we cannot keep going down this path. This is not the first attempt to make men and women equal in human civilized history, and before it failed and collapsed as well.

Post: #104

(03-17-2015 08:38 PM)robreke Wrote:  I mean black on white. Obama with his subtle remarks and innuendos throughout the years has fostered, in my opinion, an undercurrent of the idea that there is still a lot of white people who are racist towards minorities. He seems to imply that justice, not necessarily violent justice, but social justice needs to be meted out. Examples would be him saying if he had a son Trayvon would look like that son, before even knowing the facts of the case.

There are multiple other instances throughout his administration of Obama dropping these innuendos and ideas of his.

Couple that with Atty General Holder leading a legal crusade against the police force of Ferguson, in spite of the fact that the overhwhelming majority of witnesses and evidence show that the police officer was justified in shooting Brown.

After all the momentum and outrage over the Brown shooting, Obama, Holder and Sharpton were going to have their "justice" with Ferguson, the facts and evidence be damned.

Like Obama's other statements, there are many other instances of Holder feeding this idea that there is an underlying if not prevalent state of minority repression in this country. I think minorities pick up on this and it could go toward fueling some feelings that they are justified in attacking non minorities either verbally or otherwise.

I think the vast majority of blacks and minorities are law abiding and respectful, but there are many impressionable young people who could pick up on the subtexts that this administration emanates and which percolates through the media to be absorbed by these, already frustrated, inner city young people. In the end, it results in rage or "racism" against whites. Just a theory.

Obama and Holder, through these tactics and utterances, which some would say are from the Saul Alinsky playbook, have divided the country for the worse.

This is the opposite of what everyone, 7 years ago, hoped that the first black president would do for the country.

Robreke, the reality is that racism in this country is very real, that's not a narrative it's the truth. Hilariously the people I've met with the most racist attitudes towards blacks haven't been white they have been Hispanics and Asians. Also working in the restaurant industry I can tell you every Hispanic kitchen manager I've ever worked with has completely refused to hire "myates."

Holder's investigation was an absolute necessity not only to energize support from his base but, to keep the lawlessness and rioting in Ferguson from becoming worse. He had to give the appearance of the federal government stepping in and becoming involved because, the residents don't trust the local law enforcement.

Regarding many of his comments on the Brown and Martin shooting, you have to view them through the lens of extremely leftist views that he holds and the complete ignorance he has about the use of force. Liberals absolutely abhor violence, they think that all problems can be solved through social programs and dialogue. They also have absolutely zero understanding of what a use of force ladder is, much less an understanding of when it is acceptable to shoot unarmed attackers. As an example if the girls in the video that started this thread were adults it would absolutely be acceptable for the girl being assaulted to draw a gun and paint the sidewalk with the inside of her attackers head. Being knocked to the ground and being kicked can very easily result in death, and is an acceptable justification for lethal force where I come from. Add in the gathering crowd and the possibility that if she successfully defended herself without lethal force, one or more of the girls crew might jump in = disparity of numbers.

Brown was damn near 300 lbs = disparity of size = justifiable force. Are some of the things Obama has said divisive? Sure but, they would have been said by any other Democrat in his place. What would have been amazing is if he would have had the balls to say, "if you attack a cop there is a good chance you're going to end up in a body bag. Momma's don't let your babies grow up to be hoodlums."

(03-17-2015 11:36 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  The girl is a loser who most likely grew up in a shitty environment / household and likely is acting in a way that is similar to those around her. I don't necessarily think jail is the answer. She needs not only counselling but to be moved to a new environment. The problem is when you put these people in jail they just meet more bad types. If she just keeps on going back to the environment shes currently in, she'll keep acting the same way..jail or not.

Obama has nothing to do with this. This has been going on forever. To be quite honest, the reverse situation is probably more common historically.

The girl obviously has serious issues.

Lavidaloca, prison is absolutely where she belongs. First, they offer counseling in most prisons. Second, counseling with someone like this is typically fruitless as the person doesn't want to change. You are absolutely correct that the attackers environment is what molded her into the piece of trash we see today but, the unfortunate reality is that there is little to be done once a person is already like this. The purpose of prison with someone like this isn't rehab, it's to lock them away from the civilized members of society and hopefully imprison them long enough that they don't reproduce.

Post: #105

(03-18-2015 12:17 AM)scotian Wrote:  I don't think that this girl should be charged with a hate crime, she should be charged with assault, just as anyone else who commits such a despicable crime, regardless of colour. In my opinion, hate crimes shouldn't exist, an assault is an assault and a murder is a murder,etc. To grant the state the authority to judge whether or not someone is committing a crime based on hate is a slippery slope, so what if this savage girl said "white girl" as she was laying her unwarranted smack down? If I get into a scrap with someone of another colour, I'm probably gonna say some racist shit too in the heat of the moment, if he's white, then I'll probably call him a faggot, should that also be a hate crime based on sexual orientation?

You might not believe in race-on-race or religion-on-religion hate but many do and they love to act out on it.

If a person of different race, ethnic or religious background enters an area where they face being targeted then it is not just an assault. it is a hate crime because you hate that particular person for what they are.

By the logic you described the KKK lynch mobs who chased and murdered innocent black boys could say they're not racist?

Shia vs Sunni hate is another. What reason do people of similar race and country could possibly do to warrant mass murder? By being different and part of a hated background they belong too.

If I hit someone for annoying me that is assault. To include a hate crime in the same category is white-washing the real depth of violence that extends outwards when hate is involved.

Post: #106

The hardest part for me wasn't watching the video, it was realizing that absolutely NO ONE is gonna touch this story for fear the blackies get mad and go postal again.

Post: #107

(03-18-2015 07:36 PM)Falkner Wrote:  The hardest part for me wasn't watching the video, it was realizing that absolutely NO ONE is gonna touch this story for fear the blackies get mad and go postal again.

What the heck are you talking about? The only reason this thread exists is because the victim is white. If she had been black this thread wouldn't exist.

Post: #108

(03-18-2015 07:53 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 07:36 PM)Falkner Wrote:  The hardest part for me wasn't watching the video, it was realizing that absolutely NO ONE is gonna touch this story for fear the blackies get mad and go postal again.

What the heck are you talking about? The only reason this thread exists is because the victim is white. If she had been black this thread wouldn't exist.

That's the point, don't you see? If this story's given coverage, people might start asking for the perps to be brought to the justice, which would already be enough to cause a total freakout amongst the blackies.

Add to that the fact that these imbeciles would almost surely try to resist arrest and end up getting either hurt or killed in the process, and well, you have Ferguson 2.0 just waiting to happen.

Post: #109

(03-17-2015 08:01 PM)Medic42 Wrote:  

(03-17-2015 07:46 PM)Fortis Wrote:  It strikes me as a case of unrestrained savagery looking for an outlet that happened to be white this time.

And yes, Medic, I meant northern suburban whites, not southern types who are often a bit rougher than their northern counterparts.

It's very possible race wasn't factor at all. I definitely wouldn't be surprised if she'd behaved similarly with black women before either but, I think the possibility there was racial motivation should be investigated. Let's be real if the races were reversed the possibility would definitely be investigated.

LOL in my experience white Southern/Redneck women are rougher than most Northern white men...

WB

Post: #110

Falkner, so I'm supposed to take you seriously when you refer to black people as "blackies?" See the irony there?

You are clearly delusional if you don't think this girl won't be caught and tried. You're even more delusion if you think black people are going to flip out over this chick getting her just deserts.

Post: #111

(03-18-2015 08:37 PM)Fortis Wrote:  Falkner, so I'm supposed to take you seriously when you refer to black people as "blackies?" See the irony there?

You are clearly delusional if you don't think this girl won't be caught and tried. You're even more delusion if you think black people are going to flip out over this chick getting her just deserts.

Perhaps not if they manage to take her in alive, but she dies or gets hurt while resisting arrest (which, let's face it, she will try to do. She probably thinks she can grab bullets mid-air)? All bets are off then.

Post: #112

(03-18-2015 07:36 PM)Falkner Wrote:  The hardest part for me wasn't watching the video, it was realizing that absolutely NO ONE is gonna touch this story for fear the blackies get mad and go postal again.

Post: #113

Quote:
Reason for reporting this post?
"Race trolling, "blackies" is not the preferred nomenclature."

I have a dream, that one day race threads will be able to grow to an infinite number of pages without being closed.

Post: #114

(03-18-2015 07:02 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  You might not believe in race-on-race or religion-on-religion hate but many do and they love to act out on it.

If a person of different race, ethnic or religious background enters an area where they face being targeted then it is not just an assault. it is a hate crime because you hate that particular person for what they are.

By the logic you described the KKK lynch mobs who chased and murdered innocent black boys could say they're not racist?

Shia vs Sunni hate is another. What reason do people of similar race and country could possibly do to warrant mass murder? By being different and part of a hated background they belong too.

If I hit someone for annoying me that is assault. To include a hate crime in the same category is white-washing the real depth of violence that extends outwards when hate is involved.

He's not saying he doesn't believe in crimes motivated by race or religion. He is saying that they shouldn't be prosecuted any differently than any other crime. He is stating that the Klan lynching black people should be prosecuted like any other group of murderers. Which if he's half redneck like me, means swing them from a tree too...

Post: #115

(03-18-2015 07:36 PM)Falkner Wrote:  The hardest part for me wasn't watching the video, it was realizing that absolutely NO ONE is gonna touch this story for fear the blackies get mad and go postal again.

Post: #116

I've got to say I'm really enjoying the Larry David troll banning theme so far.

Post: #117

(03-18-2015 10:54 PM)Medic42 Wrote:  I've got to say I'm really enjoying the Larry David troll banning theme so far.

Post: #118

That was beautiful. Thank you, Tuth.

Post: #119

(03-18-2015 08:37 PM)Fortis Wrote:  Falkner, so I'm supposed to take you seriously when you refer to black people as "blackies?" See the irony there?

You are clearly delusional if you don't think this girl won't be caught and tried. You're even more delusion if you think black people are going to flip out over this chick getting her just deserts.

The girl doing the beating was already in prison when the thread went up. They looked even for the girl recording the video and even she might be accused of something, but she won't get prison time for recording it of course.

The mobile phones make prosecutions actually quite easy nowadays.

Post: #120

(03-17-2015 08:01 PM)Medic42 Wrote:  

(03-17-2015 07:46 PM)Fortis Wrote:  It strikes me as a case of unrestrained savagery looking for an outlet that happened to be white this time.

And yes, Medic, I meant northern suburban whites, not southern types who are often a bit rougher than their northern counterparts.

It's very possible race wasn't factor at all. I definitely wouldn't be surprised if she'd behaved similarly with black women before either but, I think the possibility there was racial motivation should be investigated. Let's be real if the races were reversed the possibility would definitely be investigated.

LOL in my experience white Southern/Redneck women are rougher than most Northern white men...

that's why I love this forum, we get to see photos like this as part of the discussion and it makes perfect sense. thanks for sharing.

Post: #121

Honestly it might of made the new because it was violent video and violence happened to a little child.

But the context would be different, black on black crime, I know there would be some stupid comment saying how they're just horrible to eachother and animals. (I don't believe this and these aren't my words)

I think this would of made the new regardless of the race, but since the girl being attacked is white, it's complete and utter outrage.

Post: #122

(03-19-2015 03:27 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Honestly it might of made the new because it was violent video and violence happened to a little child.

But the context would be different, black on black crime, I know there would be some stupid comment saying how they're just horrible to eachother and animals. (I don't believe this and these aren't my words)

I think this would of made the new regardless of the race, but since the girl being attacked is white, it's complete and utter outrage.

Much like when a white cop shoots a black criminal. It's funny that nobody, including white people, care when a cop of any race shoots a white criminal. Put another way, how would the black community react to a video of a redneck girl stomping out a lone black girl in some shithole small town? Would the reaction that it was racially motivated be less or more pronounced? Recently in Dallas one Iraqi immigrant was clipped and there was immediate concern that racists were running around whacking muslims.

Reminds me of a picture one of my black friends posted on FB today, funny that they don't mention what the 500 Americans they claim were killed by police did to earn it.

Post: #123

(03-18-2015 02:45 AM)MidWest Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 02:21 AM)enderilluminatus Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 02:19 AM)MidWest Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 02:13 AM)Rutting Elephant Wrote:  

(03-17-2015 11:05 PM)enderilluminatus Wrote:  No shit obama doesnt care about black america

I still remember that like it was yesterday





Mike Myers expression was priceless. He's standing there like "what the hell is going on."

In recent years he has said he was proud of kanye to do that and was glad to be there to see it at the time, although it floored him

It clearly did, his reaction is genuine

Yeah even George Bush got mad at Kanye for it. It got to Bush too, so much so that he even came out and spoke about it. It clearly bothered him.

Post: #124

(03-18-2015 02:19 AM)enderilluminatus Wrote:  It isnt because theyre black though, it is because theyre poor

Name one modern president who geniunely cared about poor people

I'll be waiting

Donald Trump

Post: #125

Someone convince me that diversity works. I dare you.