Post: #126

Milliband would be just plain awful but from what I see the Conservatives aren't all that much better. Similar to what you see in the US - they are all part of a corrupt system that corrupts everyone who gets into power, almost completely beholden to the lobbyists. I don't think any of these parties have a long-term view, and only seek to placate those on the government dole and all their special interest groups.

Right now the Tories seem to be trying to trump Labour's plans to spend spend spend and cater to the masses by promising all these goodies like housing & jobs (did I get that right? Doesn't seem all that "conservative" economically to me more like they are trying to trump Labour on some of these issues).

I saw that the Greens promised to raise taxes to like 60% if they ever get in power!

To be honest these elections have turned into comedy in the west these days and are almost like high school popularity contests for the most part.

Post: #127

UKIP release their manifesto and get asked by journalists "Would you let people with AIDS move here?" and "Why is there only 1 black face in your manifesto?" before the crowd just groans and a few black and asian UKIP supporters get up and show their face at the journalist. Thats at 4.20 mins into the video.





Now the news story is how 'UKIP activists' shouted down a journalist for asking a question.

Now the poor journalist has now released a video, reading out some of the mean tweets he's recieved. Complete with sad piano music playing in the background.





His twitter handle is @christopherhope if you would like to send him your messages of support.

Post: #128

Fuck politics.

I am voting for the Green Party.

Everybody hears 'Green' and things about the environment.

Wrong.

They are called the Green Party because they wanna legalise the Mary Jane. Plus they will waive my tuition fees with the money they gonna make from taxing it.

Post: #129

(04-16-2015 10:40 AM)Blackwell Wrote:  Fuck politics.

I am voting for the Green Party.

Everybody hears 'Green' and things about the environment.

Wrong.

They are called the Green Party because they wanna legalise the Mary Jane. Plus they will waive my tuition fees with the money they gonna make from taxing it.

Is cannabis use really that prevalent that it can realistically pay for all tuition fees? I wouldn't vote for green party because they are communists.

Post: #130

(04-16-2015 10:40 AM)Blackwell Wrote:  Fuck politics.

I am voting for the Green Party.

Everybody hears 'Green' and things about the environment.

Wrong.

They are called the Green Party because they wanna legalise the Mary Jane. Plus they will waive my tuition fees with the money they gonna make from taxing it.

It's not their slight obsession with the environment that turns me away from them; it's them wanting to get rid of the armed forces, allow people to join terrorist groups, ban nuclear power and fracking.

Even though as a young, low income student a left wing government coalition would benefit me economically, I will not sell out my principles just to save cash.

Post: #131

Na fuck legalising weed, I'd have lost one of my side businesses then.

Voting green also means, no borders and no notion of britishness at all, and more tax.

Post: #132

I can't believe Bennett said she wants Britain in the image of how it was when she first arrived, around 20 years ago, what a load of bollocks.

Hopefully the conservatives get enough seats in the North, Midlands and London to not have to rely on the Lib Dems for a coalition, and instead form a coalition with UKIP and the DUP, who are both very conservative.

Post: #133

Conservatives won't win enough seats to form coalition with UKIP and DUP only as neither of these parties will take many seats. UKIP will do badly relative to the percentage of the population who vote for them, I can't see them taking more than a handful of seats. DUP obviously restricted to Northern Ireland.

Labour and SNP is looking much more likely with possible Lib Dem inclusion

Post: #134

Here is my take on elections - staring yours truly.

Who is N°1?

The Prisoner: Free for All

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP_WWjD7P5o

Post: #135

Delete

Post: #136

So what's the latest polling data over there?

(04-21-2015 05:17 PM)DickDastardly Wrote:  https://uk.isidewith.com/

Very interesting political compass test to see where you fall in terms of the Uk Parties.

I got 87% UKIP



Libertarian

Your political beliefs would be considered moderately Right-Wing Libertarian on an ideological scale, meaning you tend to support policies that promote social and economic freedom.

Can't say I'm fully educated on all the issues in the UK, but I got 77% UKIP and the same moderate libertarian result that you got.

Post: #137

(04-21-2015 05:17 PM)DickDastardly Wrote:  https://uk.isidewith.com/

Very interesting political compass test to see where you fall in terms of the Uk Parties.

I got 87% UKIP



Libertarian

Your political beliefs would be considered moderately Right-Wing Libertarian on an ideological scale, meaning you tend to support policies that promote social and economic freedom.

The political compass is good in that it shows most political thought is 4-D rather than binary (left-right).

This 'libertarian' import from the US is not conservative as it is both fiscally and socially liberal.

Post: #138

The average voter is too thick to be a reliable source of data. They are too susceptible to tactics brought forward in the MSM. For some reason the Sky news channel keeps running hit pieces of the Tories and several news agencies went against the speech made by a former Prime Minister on the likeloihood of an SNP/Labour government.

Meanwhile no single main hit piece has been done on the SNP and Labours agenda. I believe the Torys are seen as the nasty party because a lot of journalists were dragged through the courts under their term because they were illegally tapping phones, emails etc.

This might be the bite back but I'm not sure. Smells like it though.

Post: #139

From my point of view it seems the media has gone all out to paint UKIP as the "nasty" party, despite the fact that in reality UKIP policies are a lot more fair and beneficial than Tory policies.

For example ; UKIP will abolish the bed room tax and are against the mansion tax.

UKIP will take everyone on minimum wage out of earnings taxation altogether.

Post: #140

(04-22-2015 05:46 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  The average voter is too thick to be a reliable source of data. They are too susceptible to tactics brought forward in the MSM. For some reason the Sky news channel keeps running hit pieces of the Tories and several news agencies went against the speech made by a former Prime Minister on the likeloihood of an SNP/Labour government.

Meanwhile no single main hit piece has been done on the SNP and Labours agenda. I believe the Torys are seen as the nasty party because a lot of journalists were dragged through the courts under their term because they were illegally tapping phones, emails etc.

This might be the bite back but I'm not sure. Smells like it though.

I actually think the Tories are getting an incredibly easy ride, given their total lack of substance, appalling lack of courage and integrity over the past 30 years, and the very real questions concerning the extent and stability of our 'economic recovery' (eg, the disastrous balance of payments deficit announced the other week that went almost unreported). Miliband, by contrast, has been personally and unfairly vilified by the press - his personal appearance and demeanor is constantly mocked. Now, I loathe Miliband, and everything he stands for. I will genuinely consider emigrating if he makes it into power, as I think the damage would be wholesale and irreversible. But the campaign of petty, trivial sniping against him personally from the media, has been pretty embarrassing for a nation that used to prize itself on journalistic integrity.

Post: #141

On Milliband, did you see the gypsy beggar photos a few months ago?? He looked very uncomfortable and embarrassed, hesitantly and reluctantly giving 2 pence to a Roma gypsy street beggar that only got in to the UK thanks to Labour/ EU open immigration policy.

Regardless of his appearance this shows how out of touch Ed and the rest of the political Elite are with the problems of modern Britain.

We would not be importing beggars out of the EU and with a points based immigration system in place.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/5...n-sandwich

Post: #142

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...s-cup.html

"Why are we importing beggars"
A little more background to the sad story behind Milliband's 2p beggar donation.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/articl...ggars.html

Post: #143

I see Tony Blair decided to wade in and throw his weight behind not giving a referendum to the people on EU membership, saying that the public couldn't be trusted with such an important decision.
I was going to rally against his words but then I realized that they made sense - after all, he got elected 3 times.

Post: #144

Tony Blair was a warmonger. Fuck Tony Blair.

Vote Green. Legalise the marijuana and use the millions they'd make in tax to give me my free tuition.

Post: #145

(04-21-2015 05:53 PM)Libertas Wrote:  So what's the latest polling data over there?

The Ashcroft Polls appear quite good - http://lordashcroftpolls.com/ - only time - two weeks now - will tell how accurate they are.

It is known that voters give polling companies false information - either through the fear that the anonymous person on the other end of the phone will judge them - or because they change their minds when they reach the polling station. They might like the idea of the plucky outsider, but in the ballot box they will choose to play it safe.

Post: #146

I'm not sure why the Green Party is even in contention with some RVF members. I'll include a link to clarify her position, but we all know that you can tell just by listening to her & looking at her.

https://www.greenparty.org.uk/leaders-bl...n-futures/

Post: #147

Yes, the Greens are the most terrible of the awful mainstream parties;

"And I think I am the first leader elected after explicitly identifying herself as a feminist. Now I have no doubt at all that Green MP Caroline Lucas, my predecessor, is a feminist - she was certainly demonstrating that last week with her choice of T-shirt - but the word was front and centre in my election literature in a way that I don't think has ever happened before. I am proud of the Green Party for embracing that.

- See more at: https://www.greenparty.org.uk/leaders-bl...Uy7eo.dpuf"

Vote UKIP!

And if the institutional feminism wasn't bad enough, the Greens seem incapable of simple arithmetic. If they ever got in power it would be an absolute disaster for the UK. We would be broke within a year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dFn8RIXOBE

Post: #148

And it gets worse, Natalie Bennett car crash interview on housing policy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhWvogL9dc

Would you trust a party to run your country that cannot do simple multiplication??

Post: #149

lol that's the funniest interview I've ever heard, couldn't stop laughing when I heard that a couple months back. It completely exposed their stupidity and that they are all idealism.

The bit where she starts coughing to try and fake sickness to get out of it LOL.

Regardless of how unthought out their ideas are, would you trust an female, australian, socialist, feminist to run your country? I sure as hell wouldn't, even if it meant free marijuana and degrees for all.

Post: #150

Haha yeah don't worry I was only joking about voting Green. I guess it's difficult to construe tone through text.

They wouldn't be able to do anything about the fees anyway. The Lib Dems folded on it so there's little chance the Green Party is going to deliver.

I doubt I'll ever vote for a woman candidate, let alone that Aussie nutjob.

I will probably end up voting UKIP if I vote at all. But I don't really believe in the whole system I don't think it's true democracy. I know it's all we have but I feel quite apathetic towards the whole thing a lot of the time.

Anyone wanna convince me why I absolutely should vote for UKIP? I'm think a Tory/UKIP coalition beats the hell out of Labour or Labour/SNP.