Post: #1

My youngest brother is 18, and when I see him I can't help but notice how weak his game is. This is "unfortunate" as he has two older brothers that are sick, sexual carnivores, both ready and willing to teach him their wicked ways. Alas, while the two of us were always into sports, girls, and partying, he was into video games, robots and card games (not casino games). We figured because he was so much younger, our Mom's eggs must've been rotten, but now it's getting to a point where something needs to be done before the damage is irreversible.

My greatest fear is that he soon settles for the first girl that gives him the time of day, and becomes her beta bitch. I cringe when that happens to a friend, but to happen to family? Unacceptable, you can't replace family like you can a friend.

Some would argue, "Just let him be" or "You can't teach an unwilling student" but I refuse to sit by and watch my own baby brother end up like this. Perhaps if he wasn't the youngest I wouldn't care. Anyhow, my other brother also indicated that the youngest approached him asking if he could teach him how to dance, as well as, how he's capable of just starting a conversation with any girl he meets, so maybe there is hope.

I don't know if any of you have endured anything similar, but is there any way to help this?

Post: #2

Introduce him to the game by showing him (directly or indirectly) some of the blogs about game. Better yet, show him betas of the month/year and show him how those beta qualities are exactly what's nagging him. Make him listen to the beta of the year; that certainly got me.

Post: #3

(05-12-2011 05:06 PM)CJ Wrote:  My youngest brother is 18, and when I see him I can't help but notice how weak his game is. This is "unfortunate" as he has two older brothers that are sick, sexual carnivores, both ready and willing to teach him their wicked ways. Alas, while the two of us were always into sports, girls, and partying, he was into video games, robots and card games (not casino games). We figured because he was so much younger, our Mom's eggs must've been rotten, but now it's getting to a point where something needs to be done before the damage is irreversible.

My greatest fear is that he soon settles for the first girl that gives him the time of day, and becomes her beta bitch. I cringe when that happens to a friend, but to happen to family? Unacceptable, you can't replace family like you can a friend.

Some would argue, "Just let him be" or "You can't teach an unwilling student" but I refuse to sit by and watch my own baby brother end up like this. Perhaps if he wasn't the youngest I wouldn't care. Anyhow, my other brother also indicated that the youngest approached him asking if he could teach him how to dance, as well as, how he's capable of just starting a conversation with any girl he meets, so maybe there is hope.

I don't know if any of you have endured anything similar, but is there any way to help this?

Yo dude, your younger bro, is only 18 so don't be so harsh on the kid, he's still got plenty of time to get his shit together. I'm not the best example of an alpha PUA with a high notch count by any means, but feel that myself and a lot of guys that discover game in this community are "late bloomers" so to speak. When I was 18 I was still pretty damn shy, socially awkward, and had extreme approach and sexual anxiety, which took quite some time to overcome.

Your brother is fortunate to have you as someone to learn from, but you being a dick to him about it is probably not going to do any good. Realistically, he's got to have the drive and motivation to increase his skill set with women, it's not something you can push on him. He's still young enough that he probably hasn't gotten to that point where he's tired of sitting around not getting laid when everyone around him is (trust me he'll get to that point sooner than later).

Another thing is not every guy out there is meant to be this "super alpha" (jock, mma fighter, lumberjack, etc.), maybe your little bro is content being a nerd playing warcraft, magic cards, or whatever the fuck he's into. That's not my style, nor does it sound like yours', but ultimately it comes down to what makes you happy.

Based on what you're saying, the best thing you can do for him is be a cool older bro, show him some love and support, and most importantly lead by example. If sees you tapping fine ass on the regular, you better damn believe he's going to hop on board the game train to improve his lack of success with women.

Oh shit, final thought... You might be right that your brother will end up shacking up in a LTR with the first girl that comes along, and end up being a beta bitch. Hopefully this won't happen, but sometimes we learn things the hard way, I know I did by defaulting into beta mode while dating this seriously psycho, bi-polar, pathological liar bitch, that I just broke up with.

I wish that I had never made the mistake of being with her, but I for damn sure learned some serious life lessons about women and relationships, and these lessons basically bitch slapped me across the face, so it's finally sunk in. The same may end up happening to your little bro, and while it may make you cringe, the only thing you can do is offer your advice and guidance, and if he doesn't want to take it, sit back and let him figure the shit out on his own.

Post: #4

Give him a copy of Bang. Have him come out with you (to bars if he has a good fake, otherwise daygaming).

Post: #5

CJ friend,take him to some G manifesto-style classy venues and Show him how its done..or make him travel with you to Brazil or some other place with descent girls. But I must warn you that possibly he will wake to alphahood only when a bitch breaks his beta heart.I used to be a beta when I was 18.

Post: #6

As OGNor stated "When I was 18 I was still pretty damn shy, socially awkward, and had extreme approach and sexual anxiety, which took quite some time to overcome."

I wouldn't worry about your brother at 18. The best advice I would give is for him to go to college with at least 50-50 ratio (no engineering schools unless he's an uber nerd already), away from home and live in a dorm (preferably coed). That way he won't have a choice but to socialize with the other sex and at the same time i'm sure he will make a few alpha friends who could "show him the ropes"

Post: #7

Try helping your brother out. He's 18 which is perfect to learn this stuff you just gotta make it fun for him. Take him out on some adventures and make sure you pump him up and make him have a lot of fun. You can then probably get him to approach girls with you if you take the lead. Once he associates pickup with fun it should be easy to get him to read up. Pickup is definitely not too complicated for the average 18 year old if he is fairly open minded.

Post: #8

CJ, intervene as soon as you can. And do it with TOUGH LOVE, none of this 'be easy' on him bullshit. I wasn't that close w/ my younger brother (4 years difference) growing up. My dad was tough on me and took me under his wing. My mother was the dominant force in my brother's life and this resulted in him being the beta bitch he is today.

My brother went to a choad Catholic high school which was beta-ville. He went to a small private college and started going out w/ a girl during his sophomore year. Fast forward 2.5 years and this muthafucker is obsessed with this chick and she wears the pants in the relationship b/c he's a dependent bitch. He spends more time with her family than with his own family (I think he subconsciously does it to replace our family w/ theirs b/c of rough and emotional household we grew up in). At this point he's about to enter med school...and he proposes to her. 22 years old, about to enter medical school, only fucked one girl ever, and this kid wants to get married. He sent us all a text that morning: "I PROPOSED TO (GF'S NAME) AND SHE SAID YES!!!" I was in disbelief and threw my phone against the wall. I haven't talked to him since then. He broke the code of man. He broke the code of being a man that carries our family name (my paternal grandpa, my dad, and my uncle were all womanizing playboys and I'm continuing the tradition).

It pisses me off everyday that I didn't jump in and show him the ropes sooner. He's always been different from my father and I, but I thought he could be like us. Anyways, intervene soon and show him the ropes. Hit him with TOUGH LOVE. Slap the beta out of him if you have to. Just do what you can so he doesn't become a casualty like my brother.

Post: #9

I had to have my heart broken a handful of times before I switched the game on these "lizards".

Post: #10

I always thought my brother was pretty beta too. Sometimes I think it's just best to show by example and drop in hints where you can. My bro is a senior in college and he's finally coming around.

He looks up to me, so that's always a good start...

Post: #11

(05-12-2011 05:06 PM)CJ Wrote:  My youngest brother is 18, and when I see him I can't help but notice how weak his game is. This is "unfortunate" as he has two older brothers that are sick, sexual carnivores, both ready and willing to teach him their wicked ways. Alas, while the two of us were always into sports, girls, and partying, he was into video games, robots and card games (not casino games). We figured because he was so much younger, our Mom's eggs must've been rotten, but now it's getting to a point where something needs to be done before the damage is irreversible.

My greatest fear is that he soon settles for the first girl that gives him the time of day, and becomes her beta bitch. I cringe when that happens to a friend, but to happen to family? Unacceptable, you can't replace family like you can a friend.

Some would argue, "Just let him be" or "You can't teach an unwilling student" but I refuse to sit by and watch my own baby brother end up like this. Perhaps if he wasn't the youngest I wouldn't care. Anyhow, my other brother also indicated that the youngest approached him asking if he could teach him how to dance, as well as, how he's capable of just starting a conversation with any girl he meets, so maybe there is hope.

I don't know if any of you have endured anything similar, but is there any way to help this?

You have to first appeal to his logical side. Show him a couple blogs like roosh/roissy, have him read mystery method first, then "The Game", and Bang. Once you've piqued his interest you can take it to the next level by throwing him into the field -- trial by fire. He does have to be willing though.

I mean, if he ends up not caring about sleeping with beautiful women, why would you want to teach him anyway? I've got friends on both sides.

One of mine finally cheated on his war pig long distance fiance and I couldn't be prouder. He's finally on the path to becoming a man -- but right now he's probably still a lesser beta. At the very least, he's breaking off the engagement.

Another buddy of mine is more confident and good looking but became an even more beta bitch after he got married. I kind of blame his religious upbringing but he really didn't heed any of my advice so he's on his own as far as I'm concerned now. She moved out on their anniversary, got back together a year later, and now she just got pregnant. I'm not thrilled, but what can you do.

Post: #12

I can fix him. LOL.
No, I can't. he is just a kid for me, but I know few who could.

Post: #13

Thats your younger brother! Its your job to teach him Game!

If you do, you will have a great wing man for life,

and he can always hook you up with younger chicks.

If you don't, he could be a depressing beta for life and you will have to deal with his Inner Game issues.

Better to just help him now.