Post: #26

Mofas. Had far are you from a large city or how would a weekend (or weekday) trip to a large city suit you? The first time I really day gamed was when I went to Dublin the first time on my own. It was like a 40 minute flight from my nearest airport and I started day gaming from inside the airport lobby (10am all the way through to 5pm that evening) I can't recall the amount of approaches I did. Singles & groups I was approaching and angling from different ways. After about 10 or so in rather quick succession my AA had subdued and I was conversing naturally.

Think about speaking as a muscle and in order to naturally converse you need to give the muscle a warm up. With that in mind have 5 or so through away approaches (this is what retail staff can be good for). Those are 5 approaches that get you in the swing of talking to random girls before going and talking to girls that are more abled to have sex. After a while it may find girls actually approaching you.

Similar thing can work at night. If you roll solo is to set yourself up in a few groups of friends and then bring the group together to form a large group. You become de facto leader and as a direct result have the highest value. If it is a mixed group of guys and gals it should make approaching the girls in that group much easier and simpler.

Post: #27

Made 1 approach today: Blonde 6.5

Approach #8: Quick interaction I approached and said something about the splint she had on her wrist. She told me if was from writing too much. I negged her and sayed thats a terrible you gotta come up with some cool story. We bounced back and forth about what we've both been writing. I was taking some of Travesty's advice and not making too much eye contact aside form the approach but playing aloof looking around a little bit like I'm not interested or their are more important things going on. Not really sure how this played off I can see it looking like I was nervous or like I had been here before. I asked her what she was doing around here and she said I'm actually here with him (bf rolls out had clearly seen me make the approach and came to lay territory) I told her take care and aborted.

The chick from Aprroach #1 came over tonight. went out to dinner again and as our "deal" she payed for the meal. Goddam this girl is boring but surprising when we got back to my crib she kinda came alive. I still didn't get the bang (she's only been with one guy, yadda yadda yadda she's not that type of girl) but made some more progress. I think it's a lock I'll deliver the deacon in the next 1-2 dates. I was getting her hot and bothered and she had to completely shut herself off. She probably called me "mean" over 20 times tonight but with a huge smile on her face. I've been more aggressive with this girl and she's eating it up, telling me she held the reins in her last relationship. Feels good to take charge. I just know not to go out with this broad again as dinner conversation is painful I'll just go straight for the crib lock.

Post: #28

Approach #9
In my opinion this has been my best approach thus far, and with the hottest girl. Brunette 8, short "track" body

At lunch with some buddies this girl was over the counter taking our order. I was putting some charm on as I was placing my order. When we finished eating I noticed the girl had clocked out and walked past our table and out the door. My AA skyrocketed but I said fuck it and went after her. Followed her down the escalator and said "hold up" She turned and I told her I thought she was cute and had to come introduce myself. She cleared the stuff in her hand and extended for the shake. This chick had remembered my name from my order (there were probably 20 people in line). I held her hand just a bit longer than normally while giving strong eye contact. She was on the way to another job, selling fitness gear. Her body was rocking. She's a dancer. I grabbed her bicep and said you're in good shape do you have a license for these things. She laughed and smiled. Man that kino does wonders. My buddies were coming down the elevator and I thought they were gonna blow it up. They let me do my thing and the girl said "I'm sorry but i gotta get to work." Mo- "yeah i get it well give me your number. do you wanna hang out sometime?"
her- "yeah uhhh (as I was getting my phone out) I'm always a little reluctant." I kinda cut her off and said "look I'm gonna take your number I'll probably hit you up sometime and if you don't respond I'll delete it." NUMBER CLOSE she said bye Mo and took off.

A couple observations-
My AA is still very relevant although I am more comfortable approaching than I was a month ago
During the convo I felt some tightness in my face due to nerves, tightness around the mouth, I was in my head a bit
My body language has improved for sure and I'm being more aggressive with my dialogue and kino
Having other girls (like approach #1, I hung out with last night) takes some of the pressure off
I'm not in the results business anymore, it's about my process and how I grow and continue to improve with each approach/date


I can imagine if you are spinning a couple of plates it really takes all the pressure off each individual approach.

Post: #29

by now you should start doing Night Game. ROI on day-game is too low! with your high confidence youd be number closing at most clubs-bars you hit.

Post: #30

Man oneitis is a GNARLY thing. Chick in my class that I've been into the past couple weeks. It's interesting b/c the last couple weeks have been good to me...multiple numbers, a hook up that will deff lead to a bang, and a raise in confidence. My interactions with women have largely consisted of me running the frame and feeling damn good about it. I show up to class last night, see this chick, and turn into a puppy dog. Fuck. I don't even know the broad, she's probably an 8 blonde surfer style chick, dancer. I went into it with the expectation that I was gonna run game on her and didn't really get the opportunity. I let that dictate my night as my "expectation" (more like fantasy) didn't play out. Damn...I need to rid this oneitis. The obsessions is a blue pill pattern of mine, I need to dive deeper into GAME. More numbers, more approaches, and fuuuuck I need to break this dry spell

Post: #31

(04-02-2015 12:03 PM)Mofasa Wrote:  Man oneitis is a GNARLY thing. Chick in my class that I've been into the past couple weeks. It's interesting b/c the last couple weeks have been good to me...multiple numbers, a hook up that will deff lead to a bang, and a raise in confidence. My interactions with women have largely consisted of me running the frame and feeling damn good about it. I show up to class last night, see this chick, and turn into a puppy dog. Fuck. I don't even know the broad, she's probably an 8 blonde surfer style chick, dancer. I went into it with the expectation that I was gonna run game on her and didn't really get the opportunity. I let that dictate my night as my "expectation" (more like fantasy) didn't play out. Damn...I need to rid this oneitis. The obsessions is a blue pill pattern of mine, I need to dive deeper into GAME. More numbers, more approaches, and fuuuuck I need to break this dry spell

I've suffered from the same problem of the dreaded oneitis when I started gaming, simply because I just started gaming and whenever I had solid results I'd get that dreaded feeling. I've read on the forum that even seasoned members CAN get oneitis if a girl is acting feminine or overly cute (Hope you understand what I mean here), and I only got over it by believing that is not a real problem and that I can control it like I started/starting to control other aspects of my life.

http://www.rooshv.com/you-will-never-see-her-again

I found this article really informative and although you might find it a little different from your situation I still believe it is worth a read and if you digest it you can see it from a different perspective as I did. I've only been gaming for a couple of month and I'm no seasoned gamer, but I think we are on the same boat and hope my 2 cents helped you out.

Post: #32

Good article. Thanks.

Updates on today.

Two approaches while I was in the airport

Blonde 7 reading a book.
Walked up and asked her about her book (it was pink). My intention was to bring up the fact it looked like a romance novel. I told her what I've been reading recently, all biographies. We were into some of the same shit. We talked about our destination, we live in the same city. I wasn't seeing any IOI's. We talked about our city since we're both from outta state. I dropped some bait and said "yeah I've never lived in a city before and I moved to xxx from central america so it was a big change." Her brother lived in the same country (panama) so we chatted a bit. She was super friendly, but didn't seem interested. The flight started boarding and she said "thanks for the chat mo"

Brunette 6 leaving the plan
She had a tattoo of the hockey team around here on her shoulder (red flag?) I made a soft approach and asked her if she liked hockey, but truthfully I wasn't that interested but ran for the practice. She immediately told me she liked my bracelets and started playing with them. I told her I liked a diff team and this chick negged me "oh man I don't think we can be friends." She was young, 18, freshman in college. We walked to get our luggage together I grabbed her number and my luggage and bounced. NUMBER CLOSE

I also went through my phone today to clean it out and send some restart texts.

12 total texts including:
Approach #1 -hooked up twice but no bang yet, I'll see her again
Approach #9- first text interaction went as follows: Me- "hey its mo what are you up to?" 3 hours later her- "hey sorry I just got done xxx." 40 minutes later me- "hope it went well. I'm busy this weekend but I'll call you next week to find a time to get together" her- silence....restart text me- "whats up xxx how was your weeknd. what'd you do for easter?" her- dead silence (next?? I want this one but fuuuuck I can't treat her diff in my head)
2 tinder chick that didn't respond. (they were cold)
2 okc chicks- 1 set to hang out thursday afternoon, 1 radio silent
6 social circle chicks- 1 set to hang out thursday night, two responded but went to radio silent after 4-5 texts, 2 convo still continuing (I'm taking my time responding), 1 no response

Post: #33

I really don't know about sending "restart text", because basically what I know is if a girl is not keen to keep contact or I messed my text game I'd just next her. You'll get better eventually and it is good that you're going strong on your approaches, just keep notes of what you're doing so you can reflect upon them later and see where you could've improved it.

As for text game, you can search forums for countless threads regarding this topic, i'll post you the ones I found helpful.

/thread-11951-...#pid948297

/thread-11115.html

And I know one member did already post Rooshs guide to texting, but in case you missed it here it is

http://www.bangpickupguide.com/misc/text...rooshv.pdf


Remember, there are plenty fish in the sea and you're calibrating your game so next any girl who flaked/flaky and move on. My two cents though..

Post: #34

I hung out with approach #11 tonight. chick I met today at the airport. I was with a buddy when we got the invite to go a hookah bar (chicks 18). My buddy is a horrible wingman...anyways long story short I got this chick back to my house. We hang for a bit out by my pool and then I tell her to come inside and see my room. We talk for one minute and then I grab her hands and go in for the kiss...boom rejection the chick bounces out to my living room and sits on the couch. Fucking lame she hung out for another 20 and then I told her I was going to bed. Umm damn idk I thought the comfort and attraction was there...ohh well on to the next one

Post: #35

(04-06-2015 10:23 PM)Geekzor Wrote:  I really don't know about sending "restart text", because basically what I know is if a girl is not keen to keep contact or I messed my text game I'd just next her. You'll get better eventually and it is good that you're going strong on your approaches, just keep notes of what you're doing so you can reflect upon them later and see where you could've improved it.

As for text game, you can search forums for countless threads regarding this topic, i'll post you the ones I found helpful.

/thread-11951-...#pid948297

/thread-11115.html

And I know one member did already post Rooshs guide to texting, but in case you missed it here it is

http://www.bangpickupguide.com/misc/text...rooshv.pdf


Remember, there are plenty fish in the sea and you're calibrating your game so next any girl who flaked/flaky and move on. My two cents though..

I appreciate the links. I have a question. As a newbie do you think it is wise to delete all my online profiles and put my time in the trenches?

Post: #36

Well I don't have online profiles except maybe on facebook and that's set to private and tinder, but I'd think it is better that you delete the ones you are not using anymore or not interested in updating and for the ones you want to improve there is this new thread that is pretty much mind blowing regarding improving your online profiles.

/thread-45167.html

Still haven't tried it, but will do it probably next week when the cash pumps in. Hope it helps.

Post: #37

(04-07-2015 11:58 AM)Mofasa Wrote:  I have a question. As a newbie do you think it is wise to delete all my online profiles and put my time in the trenches?

Yes, if I were you I would focus on improving approach skills both during the day and at night. Using Tinder and other online resources to meet chicks can be fun, but nothing matches the satisfaction of being able to meet a girl during the day, date and eventually bang her.

Focusing on in-person interactions rather than online ones will help you become more social savvy and improve your game at a much faster rate than messing around with online dating. Definitely use it, just wait until you have the basics down first. Your overall people skills will benefit too.

Post: #38

(03-05-2015 01:23 PM)CH-Toronto Wrote:  You're nowhere near 30 - but good to see you're trying to make changes.

I'm 29 for reference.

Goal for 2015/2016: Try to go to South America at least once. Go with a friend, go with a group. Challenge yourself. I went to Medellin earlier this year, and my biggest regret is not going earlier in my 20s.

Whether or not this helps you with your game/gets you laid is another story- but I don't think you will regret it either way. Spend the time, learn Spanish (or Portugese/Brazil), and get out there. Or go to Europe (parts). Point is, there is a whole world out there - and every single man needs to experience life OUTSIDE OF NORTH AMERICA.

It's a terrible quote, but trips and vacations are the only things that cost money which leave you richer when you're done.

Agree with CH-Toronto: Go to Latin America! Being able to speak Spanish or Portuguese is like having a secret weapon. I have never been there but I am going to Colombia in June. Start learning either Spanish or Portuguese. Going to Latin America will help you game white or black North American girls. The majority of women love to travel and most North American girls (from my experience) have never been to Latin America. It is a good talking point.

Next, do not go on porn-PERIOD. Jacking off to porn lowers your testosterone levels and women are able to tell/sense your testosterone level. From the beginning of time, women want to mate with the men with the highest testosterone levels. Knock off the porn. If need to jack off, imagine fucking a girl or look at playboy naked women like our fathers and grandfathers.

Next, to raise your testosterone level. Lift weights. Get in the gym. Do squats, deadlifts, bench press, dips, lunges, push-ups, etc. PM if you want my weekly workout routine. This has a huge impact with your confidence and how women respond to you.

Finally, keeping an approach journal is good. I did not read any of your approaches but I imagine they are all cold approaches where each of you have not known each other prior to the interaction. You have to understand that probably half of these are not looking for a relationship, fuck-buddy, etc. Don't beat yourself up with these women. The other half are open to male companionship. These are the women will respond well to a man with good body-language, a high level of testosterone and who sees her as a person. Treat her as you would a man but you want to fuck her. Only you can determine when to ask her out for a drink, a museum visit, etc. Only you can determine whether to touch her, kiss her, bounce her on an instant-date, or just get her number and text her later. However, this last point is something I always do. If she gives me her number, I always try to set up the date right then and there. Hopefully, she commits right there. If she does not, I say "We'll figure something out." Then, I always hug her and say "It was nice meeting you and I look forward to seeing you on xxx. Until xxx." It is a nice farewell and its sets you up in a good position for the next time you see her.

If she does not commit, I like to send her a text 15 minutes later (after leaving here), something like "I'm going to grab a glass of wine with a cute girl on xxxx." Just roll with it until you get the date cemented.

Finally, in my experience and this was in both of Roosh's books, "No amount of text game will save you with a woman. If the initial encounter did not get her attracted to you, there is no amount of text game that will save the entire interaction." Chalk it up as a missed connection and move on. Simple. I do not pay attention to text game books because in my opinion it is all bullshit. Good luck with everything else man.

Post: #39

So I've tried the freeze out twice in past week to no avail. How do you guys manuever LMR? I get them worked up primed and ready to go and then their LMR kicks in. Last night I tried to freeze out after facing LMR. I grabbed my phone and messed around on it for a few minutes and this chick started grabbing all over me. So I decided to go back in for the kill and again it was a no..WTF maybe i didn't hold the freeze out long enough?

Post: #40

(04-10-2015 09:48 PM)Mofasa Wrote:  So I've tried the freeze out twice in past week to no avail. How do you guys manuever LMR? I get them worked up primed and ready to go and then their LMR kicks in. Last night I tried to freeze out after facing LMR. I grabbed my phone and messed around on it for a few minutes and this chick started grabbing all over me. So I decided to go back in for the kill and again it was a no..WTF maybe i didn't hold the freeze out long enough?

You need to man up, and leave, especially after you killed a few minutes after the initial brush off. That's why you need a rotation/stable of slampieces. Learn game, have options and shit like LMR either:

a. Won't happen.
b. Or if it does, you won't give a shit, 'cause if it does, you have other holes to put your dick in.

Post: #41

Broke my 8 month dry spell last night!!!

Notch #44 for me

OKcupid chick. 6 face 8 body. Fitness crazy chick. I was out with another chick when she texted me around 11:30. My first date wasn't gonna lead to the bang as this broad had a super early morning so I just went for the m/o did some aggressive kino and then told her I was gonna drop her off. Went to meet OKcupid chick at a bar around 12:30. This broad loved to talk. Right when we sat down I grabbed her hands and played with her fingers commenting on her nail polish. My kino has gone way up thanks to this forum. I was touching her hair and arms with the old "do you have a license for these" line. Worked sex into the conversation (can't rememeber how) but she said she wrote an article on sex shops. Hung for 40 minutes and then told her "lets get out of here." Went back to my crib and secured the bang. I'm not jacking off anymore so I wasn't a marathon man of sorts but it was nice to break this dry spell!