Post: #26

(08-23-2016 08:51 AM)Drix Wrote:  @Cogon: Don`t blame me, but This Forum has enough resources to improve our game, Most of members will prefer quality. If you have been in Manila, I think At least You develop your game. Peru is easy in latin standards(mainly for whites).

@Zoom and @Robert PLant have been here. Depends of your preferences, but Many people don`t like them, despite of that they are not so easy as a pinay. You also said Poor jajaja. Peru and especially Miraflores and San Isidro district are more expensive than places in Bolivia, Venezuela,Ecuador,Colombia and Center of America.

Many peruvians and latins start families at early age,If you are a young latin guy(between 18 to 25 years), Why do you need to look for a 40` girl? These old girls are looking for a husband or someone who start a family, It can be exceptions. Yeah Maybe they are desesperate, but You will need real game and lie you want something formal.

Instead of lloking for easy pussy of bad quality, i can recommend you to analyze your game,looks,social abilities and Maybe Even Brazil and Colombia can be good places(intermediate difficulty) with high quality girls.

I have to admit here. I am a newbie really. And I have challenges with this. I am in a state where I need to work with the easiest of the easy for now. there will always be some 'cute girls' you will see in Peru too and these are what I would have to deal with before I can 'up' it to Colombia. We all want to get to high quality like Colombia but I am not even ready yet lol.

Overall yes, people will agree Peru is fairly easy but is discussed to have poor poor quality. What would people say about Venezuela, Panama, DR, tertiary cities of Colombia, Guatemala and Honduras? Any thoughts about if one or more of them can offer something that is not of greater difficulty than stereotypically easy Peru?

Post: #27

I am in Cusco now. I am finding night game sucks and only day game is yielding some results. Also Peruvian girls are very conservative. They are easy enought to talk to and get phone numbers and dates but when it comes to escalating, e.g. hand holding, kissing, fucking, etc they make it really hard. Also there is some tendemcy towards tardiness and flakiness in Peruvian girls.

All of the above being said I speak almost no Spanish, so for a fluent Spanish speaker the above may not apply. I am an average looking guy who dresses reasonably well.

In my opinion girls in Cusco (Peruvian and foreign) are not easy to fuck.

I have spent 8 or 9 days in Peru and have yet to fuck a girl (I was on a trek for 5 of those days though).

Post: #28

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Overall yes, people will agree Peru is fairly easy but is discussed to have poor poor quality. What would people say about Venezuela, Panama, DR, tertiary cities of Colombia, Guatemala and Honduras? Any thoughts about if one or more of them can offer something that is not of greater difficulty than stereotypically easy Peru?
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Oh i see, then you have to ask in The threads of Colombia and DR as your best options. Venezuela has good level, but the situation of the country is really bad. By the way, You can try a short term in Peru and Who Knows.

(08-24-2016 02:25 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  In my opinion girls in Cusco (Peruvian and foreign) are not easy to fuck.

As a peruvian, I should say Rules have exception, but generally Provincianas(girls outside Lima) are still good wife material, they are friendlier, nice, But it takes time to crack some of them. The super easy peruvian or latinas are the typical bricheras(goldiggers).

Relate to time, most of girls have busy schedules, We also have something called HORA PERUANA (peruvian hour) which means We are always late for everything, Flakiness is also common.

By the way, Cusco was my heaven, It was the best place to pick up tourist girls with my newbie game. I just regret that i missed opportunities and didn`t do daygame.

I also met tons of foreigners who couldn`t get laid, I also agree ratios are extremely bad at night.

Post: #29

I of course did not expect anything less but holy fuck the women here are a step down from Ukraine!

I have not been in Lima for three years until I touched down this morning and I am robbed of all motivation to talk to these chicks. Of course after a few days my eyes will re-adjust to local beauty levels and all will be fine.

Sleeping in tonight to get over the jet lag from Europe. Feel fucked. Tomorrow night I'll hit the town, get drunk and pull an ugly Peruvian back to my apartment. It's so easy here I will stake my life on that being the sequence of events.

Weather is awesome however. Can walk around without a jacket. For all its faults it's great to be back in South America.

Adios.

Post: #30

@Australia Sucks how long you in Cusco for? I'm waiting for my girlfriend to fly in from BA in a few days and then we are heading up there most likely.

Post: #31

(08-24-2016 01:02 PM)The Ligurian Wrote:  I of course did not expect anything less but holy fuck the women here are a step down from Ukraine!

I have not been in Lima for three years until I touched down this morning and I am robbed of all motivation to talk to these chicks. Of course after a few days my eyes will re-adjust to local beauty levels and all will be fine.

Sleeping in tonight to get over the jet lag from Europe. Feel fucked. Tomorrow night I'll hit the town, get drunk and pull an ugly Peruvian back to my apartment. It's so easy here I will stake my life on that being the sequence of events.

Weather is awesome however. Can walk around without a jacket. For all its faults it's great to be back in South America.

Adios.

hmmm your post intrigues me. So, repasamos(gotta know spanish LOL!), you are confirming that albeit, ugly, these "ugly native looking" girls are indeed easy to fuck am I right? So if I settle for these looks, I can get one of these so called ugly girls over on the same day and have her in bed?

But hey I should pm you about this visit. Get some of those girls over including that easier kind you said about and report back on how it went in terms of ease. Did this trip confirm that accepting the steotypically ugly native look will award you with easy lay and that post I bumped this thread about when rooshv said its guaranteed(same day?) action if she is 'ugly'?. Honestly it is because I think I actually like 'ethnic looks' and see them as 'different' rather than 'ugly' which is why your observation could well be the determining factor on how I consider if I go to Peru.

I also like how your opinion on their weather is consistent with mine. I promote their weather as the best on Earth. Who needs sun all the time! places that get that usually have temperature extremes anyways not to mention skin cancers! In the end, extreme heat is the worst thing you can get as heat is the only weather element that is 'non-escapable' If its hot and you can't make use of AC, you aint getting good sleep! and you gonna sweat day and night! Peru's 21 degree average is like a dream!

If you can report back that the commonly rejected natives turn out to be easy and lay pretty quick, I think I will get out of this heat in Phil and go there. I mean if there are ethnic girls that are used to being rejected and make themselves easy to the few that will come for them, then those few may be lucky. Guaranteed, you can pull a better looking native there for great ease than anything you will get in america for great ease. Nothing is easy at all there actually! I think Peru is worth it!

important: I need to confirm whether or not what people said about not getting normal girls back to your place easily is true because people have said this many times. But I got the hint that people totally factor out the native ones when saying how easy/hard Lima is. But the fact is the the natives ARE the easy part. Factoring them out will make Lima hard and I wonder if that is the only reason why people find it hard. Sifting through the mass of natives in search of the few that are not and hope to pull those will make it a hard game. So I know that the minority that are considered beautiful and non native by foreigners probably WILL be hard yes.

Post: #32

Overall yes, people will agree Peru is fairly easy but is discussed to have poor poor quality. What would people say about Venezuela, Panama, DR, tertiary cities of Colombia, Guatemala and Honduras? Any thoughts about if one or more of them can offer something that is not of greater difficulty than stereotypically easy Peru?
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Oh i see, then you have to ask in The threads of Colombia and DR as your best options. Venezuela has good level, but the situation of the country is really bad. By the way, You can try a short term in Peru and Who Knows.

(08-24-2016 02:25 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  In my opinion girls in Cusco (Peruvian and foreign) are not easy to fuck.

As a peruvian, I should say Rules have exception, but generally Provincianas(girls outside Lima) are still good wife material, they are friendlier, nice, But it takes time to crack some of them. The super easy peruvian or latinas are the typical bricheras(goldiggers).

Relate to time, most of girls have busy schedules, We also have something called HORA PERUANA (peruvian hour) which means We are always late for everything, Flakiness is also common.

By the way, Cusco was my heaven, It was the best place to pick up tourist girls with my newbie game. I just regret that i missed opportunities and didn`t do daygame.

I also met tons of foreigners who couldn`t get laid, I also agree ratios are extremely bad at night.
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How do you pull foreigners in Cuzco? You were still in hostel dorms while doing it? And you really mean that your newbie level of game still got you pulling foreiner? What kinds of nationalities was it mostly?

Post: #33

I wrote this thread of my trip to Cusco. /thread-54837.html
I was a private room of a hotel, Some white tourist are Latino groupies, In the discos, i saw many french, american, aussies and other latins.

I just used dance floor game in salsa and bachata, my game was and is still basic, but some girls had a thing for darker skin and they put the table easier for me. I was cockblocked, But overall, my experience was so good, but i met other latins and whites who couldn't get lay. Just a few guys who pull well too. My last recommendation is that Don't Trust in night game so much,'Most of the days, Bad ratios and many local and tourist are only to pick up the few cutie chicks. You should go early.

Post: #34

Ligurian, I will be in Cusco the rest of this week and another 6 weeks (will try to learn some Spanish from next week). Send me a p.m. with your contact details and the dates you will be in Cusco if you want.

I found that the foreigner bars in Cusco aren't busy enough (have not been out on Friday or Saturday night yet) to have enough girls/targets and Peruvian clubs need dance game (Peruvians all dance). Also in Peruvian clubs the Peruvian girls never seem to be there without Peruvian guys. For every hot Peruvian girl in a club there were 3 Peruvian guys standing next to her.

Guys don't be fooled by posts about easy Peruvian girls made in 2009 or 2011. I suspect things have changed since then due to the rising amount of tourism. I find with Peruvian girls when they find out you are a foreigner from a "good" country they are interested but seem to suddenly lose interest(or at least sound dissapointed ) when you tell them you are just on vacation/a tourist. It may be best to lie and say you are an exchange student or an expat or something.

Within the first two minutes of talking to a Peruvian girl she will usually ask how long you are staying in Peru and sometimes also how long you are staying in her city.

Post: #35

This is my first time in South America. In Peru if you are a foreigner, everybody tries to rip you off and you never get what you pay for and half the time things don't work properly (bad mobile reception, crappy showers, tours that are marketed as all inclusive but are not, etc).

Post: #36

I went to a bunch of bars and clubs in Cusco and I never had a single girl approach me, I had to do all the approaching. While girls were somewhat open to talk they were hardly throwing themselves at me or making excessive eye contact as Roosh suggested. I feel that perhaps Cusco has changed since a few years ago. Also all of the venues were sausage fests. Although it must be said that I do not speak Spanish, am average looking and have a tanned middle eastern (was born in Australia but have middle eastern parents) look i.e. no "White God Factor" at play for me.

Post: #37

Cuzco and the tourist areas like Valle Sagrado are bad for game; you aren't a Gringo (Western/White/Fair complexion & features), Cuzco girls are used to hordes of touristas pouring in nonstop so the ratio and novelty factor will be low, and also the girls there are overwhelmingly of indigenous stock making them subpar targets.

Post: #38

I'm not blonde, but peruvian girls have been very easy to me also, I guess their issue is more with amerindian looking guys (ironically)

Post: #39

(08-25-2016 10:01 PM)Bycicleguy Wrote:  I'm not blonde, but peruvian girls have been very easy to me also, I guess their issue is more with amerindian looking guys (ironically)

So you had experience there too. How soon are you able to get the bang after meeting them? Any testimonies of how it goes with the so called ugly native ones?

Post: #40

(08-25-2016 05:19 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  Within the first two minutes of talking to a Peruvian girl she will usually ask how long you are staying in Peru and sometimes also how long you are staying in her city.

So the key here is to make it seem like you are going to stay long right?
Well it actually will be the truth on my part anyways because if I ditch the Philippines, it will be Peru I try long term instead.

Post: #41

I'm thinking pictures would add value to this thread. Talking about the most common girls in Lima, when refering to the indian type, are these the kind of girl?



From left to right, a 4, in the middle a 5.5-6 and then a 6.5-7. You agree?






All 5.5-6, and in the right a 4

Post: #42

(08-26-2016 12:45 PM)FPT Wrote:  I'm thinking pictures would add value to this thread. Talking about the most common girls in Lima, when refering to the indian type, are these the kind of girl?



From left to right, a 4, in the middle a 5.5-6 and then a 6.5-7. You agree?






All 5.5-6, and in the right a 4

The natives in Peru seem to originally have a very dark color, compared to most of the Amazon where they are just tanned. Must have to do with the high elevation UV and open sun and is an evolutionary effect of the Andes region. So they are really quite dark and even mixed ones retain significant pigment. But I still don't know why people oppose the looks. I am one to appreciate India, Africa and anywhere so I like the way they are.

Post: #43

Yes, Cogon lying and telling girls you are staying for a long time is generally the way to go in Peru. They like foreigners that are living there but are not so interested in tourists. Although it can occasionally work out worse becuase they might make you wait longer for sex if they think you are here for a long time.

Post: #44

There is certainly no abundance of hot girls in Cusco but there are enough girls in the 6-7.5 range. The trick is trying to fuck them without getting friendzoned or having to date them for a month. Cusco girls are mostly conservative. Don't think its easy to fuck tourist girls here either. Cusco is not like Sydney, Paris, Bew York or Kondon. Most foreigners i meet here are only here for a few days. They typically come with friends and also tend to hang out with people in their hostel. Given the short length of their stay and the cockblocking/social curcle factor, its very hard to even get a foreign girl out on a date let alone fuck her.

Night game in Cusco sucks. Apart from the bad ratios and cock blocking its really cold at night in Cusco.

Post: #45

(08-27-2016 04:16 PM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  Yes, Cogon lying and telling girls you are staying for a long time is generally the way to go in Peru. They like foreigners that are living there but are not so interested in tourists. Although it can occasionally work out worse becuase they might make you wait longer for sex if they think you are here for a long time.

Seems the complete opposite of Philippines. Likely because Philippines does seem to have more of the casual sex thing going on. The girls seem to give off a clear vibe that they don't want to get with the ones that have been "lurking around the Philippines" as one girl put it.

Peru seems conservative then if they are looking for long term stay foreiners for serious relationship.

Cool thing about it though is that it WON'T be a lie at all. When I go, I WILL stay a long time and that's the thing. So I should do pretty well. Of course renting a place demonstrates right away that I am staying long term indeed. Speaking good spanish, which I do, as well as indicating that you want to stay there longer to learn better looks good maybe. If staying longer than most foreigners is a benefit, I want to capitalize on this because a long stay is exactly what I will be doing anyways. I have a hint that repeat girls will be the way to go for me. I think Lima is going to work out well for me.

Post: #46

Accurate analysis two posts above.

Cuzco game really means local Peruanos roll visiting hippie Gringas "here to absorb the energy of Macchu Picchu". Gringos need to take their pack of Magnums and head back to Lima.

For the candid photos posted previously, I don't think that is the " Indian type" at all, they look like Mestizas, cute students in the costal areas like Lima. Those are much more to the typical man's taste than the Andean/Quechuas of the mountainous interior.

Post: #47

Yeah those photos are accurate of the average girls out in Lima. Pretty rough looking.

Post: #48

Looking out onto the different barrios around the cities, in those barrios the girls are all that brown inca type. You can tell by going on google street view and looking at them!
I can guarantee you that all the barrios outside the city centre, especially poor barrios are pretty much loaded with only this kind.

Post: #49

The funny thing in that picture is the old gringos trying to game them.

Post: #50

If higher spanish skills coincides with higher success in lat am (which I think is probably the case) then I might be at a big advantage. I think the closer location to where tourists are, compared to the distant Philippines is offset by the language barrier. Compound this with the fact that half of them are in cities tourists never want to or choose to visit anyways and their interest in you looks even higher. This could explain why I can observe that the response rate across latin am is about the same as the Philippines! If not better. More foreigners are disconnected from these women by the language barrier there than the distance for the Philippines. One day, I had just a mere hiccup in Spanish and could see how quickly the woman got turned off and never came back. Good sign, because my Spanish is actually very good and not much left to improve so by the looks of that, there might be a lot of other men with actual bad or no spanish being turned away by them while I win their interest with my higher level of spanish.

I think they want to factor in Spanish ability and so if they really want a long lasting relation with you, the better your Spanish, the higher interest you get. Any I-am-from-dreamland-america-but-sorry-cant-speak-spanish type game would not work because it seems lat am girls want you sticking around. While they know that anyone can learn Spanish anyways, you put yourself ahead of everyone else when you approach them with excellent Spanish already learned and ready to go. This must be why every girl I messaged and said que tal to and then continued on with fully conversational Spanish, they responded and things progressed quickly to adding on facebook and all that. After I got back to them a while later, they all forgot about me, but all the better. If you are there and ready with good Spanish to meet them, you are at an advantage compared to most others and perhaps they are quicker to want to meet if you are there and any laggards that are not nearly ready will be forgotten. Those girls were just testers to see how it worked out but I will be back on to chat new ones later now that I see how well it went. I had higher rejection rate in the Philippines than with these girls that spoke Spanish in centro/south america! And I thought that Philippines was low rejection! I seem to have proven that good Spanish actually gets you rock bottom rejection rates in lat am. Something I will also capitalize on when I finish up with the Philippines! Spanish seems to be like a code. Simply getting fluent in Spanish is like cracking the code that unlocks hoards of lat am women. If you are among the minority that is good in Spanish, you are one of the few with this 'code' to 'unlock' countless ladies out there.