Post: #1

I have a suspicion that he was able to take down the beast but they didn't want to be loud about it, first guy to finally take one down on Date Lab?

Quote:Not only did Silver Spring natives Abby Holtz, (25, teacher) and Elvin Peprah (25, engineer) go to the same college, it turns out they also lived in the same building for a year and have dozens of mutual Facebook friends. Does that mean there’s a chance for chemistry? We sent them to Mio to find out.


Abby: My first impression was that he’s really sweet and definitely handsome.

Elvin: She was wearing a really pretty black dress with a necklace that matched her dress and her nails.

Abby: The waitress and I spoke Spanish a lot throughout the course of the evening. I hope I wasn’t rude, because he didn’t speak any.

Elvin: Before I knew it, she was already friends with our waitress. It was really nice that she fell into the situation and was able to be herself, which made me comfortable to be myself, so we had a really good chemistry going.

Abby: We were between a friendly vibe and chemistry, if there’s an in-between of those two things. There was a little bit of flirting.

Elvin: I found out she was also from Silver Spring, and we started talking about the area. She wasn’t too far way from me at all.

Abby: We had a lot of things in common in terms of where we are in life. We’re both the same age, went to the same college. We actually ended up in the same building our freshman year, just on opposite sides. We were joking about how he probably held the door for me or something in our building but didn’t know it.

Elvin: It seemed like we had a good set of core values that kind of meshed together.

Abby: The more we talked, the more I was attracted to him. When you talk to him, you get this feeling that he’s a good person. He’s engaging and interesting and a very good listener, funny.

Elvin: I would ask a single question, and she’d answer and we’d continue talking. I’m very used to having to push people to expand on what they say, and she just gave me a whole story, and I thought to myself, “She must be a really passionate person.”

Abby: I feel like he could’ve been one of my friends already. ... You don’t want to be in a relationship with someone who’s totally random.

Elvin: I just like to get to know people, so if your story is interesting enough then I sort of fall for you as a person. So my type is interesting. And I do find her interesting.

Abby: We were there until 10 or 10:30. They were kicking us out in a very nice way.

Elvin: At the end of the night she was sweet enough to offer me a ride. We continued talking until she dropped me off at the Glenmont Metro station. We swapped numbers and talked about going salsa dancing.

Abby: We friended each other on Facebook and found out we have 50 friends in common. We’ve been texting back and forth ever since.

Elvin: We have tentative plans for this weekend. We definitely want to go out again and have a good time. She’s a fantastic person, and I don’t see why I wouldn’t want to hang out with her.

Rate the date
Abby: There’s no perfect score. So I’d say a 4.5 [out of 5]. Not like immediate sparks or immediate fireworks, but definitely he’s somebody who I wouldn’t mind getting to know more.

Elvin: A 4.5. The company, food, atmosphere and conversation were fantastic. The only reason it’s not a pure 5 is because that has to do with romantic interest, and I’m not sure I’m 100 percent there yet.

Update
Abby and Elvin have met up twice but appear to be leaning toward friendship.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/...story.html

Post: #2

(02-17-2015 11:55 PM)Brian Shima Wrote:  

Quote:Update
Abby and Elvin have met up twice but appear to be leaning toward friendship.

That can mean one of two things. Just remember...it's never the guy who "leans toward friendship."

It's not like you have a choice between friendship or more. It's a choice between friendship and more.

Anyway, which of you DC guys have banged her already?

Post: #3

:EDIT: ^ Suits beat me to it by a second!


"Abby and Elvin have met up twice but appear to be leaning toward friendship."


Define success

Post: #4

Dupe /thread-1964-p...#pid959337

Post: #5

looooooool. By far the that black dude has the nerdiest voice I have ever heard coming out of a black man's throat. If I heard only the voice, not in a million years would I imagine it coming from a black man. Plus a strong gay twang. And she is fugly.

Post: #6

1. She offered him a ride home.
2. She stated she "wanted to get to know him more".

This guy had an easy lay-up and probably nice guy'd his way out of the game. Oh yeah, he looks like Dwayne Wade too.

Post: #7

(02-18-2015 12:52 AM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  looooooool. By far the that black dude has the nerdiest voice I have ever heard coming out of a black man's throat. If I heard only the voice, not in a million years would I imagine it coming from a black man. Plus a strong gay twang. And she is fugly.

She's easily average for the D.C. area, but would be bottom of the barrel in the other places I have lived. After hearing that guy, I think he is either guy or in major denial.

Post: #8

He didn't get the bang.
This dude isn't corny.. But you can tell he is just a nice guy.
Nothing about her actions in the video made it seen like she was sexually attracted to him.
It like more like they are good buddies and probably go on play dates with each other... He is her rock to lean on.
Notice towards the end, she made q comment about feeling like he could have already been here friend

The guy doesn't have much sexual drive in his eyes.. He just had a "men" type of look.

I think the met up twice is probably then meeting up for lunch or coffee date but never got drinks.

The girl isn't very attractive, a 5.. But at the same time, the dude isn't anything special either

Post: #9

I concur with Brian that I think Elvin hit that.

Post: #10

She was too busy trying to show off how much Spanish she spoke.

I've dealt with that on a number of occasions. There are a lot of white girls in the local salsa scene, and when you meet these chicks and they find out you're Latin, they start trying to show how much Spanish they remember from their high school courses and you just try to not laugh.

In this case she actually did it around someone who doesn't speak the language, so what was the point?

In the end, they may have had a good conversation, but good conversation without flirtation is a dead-end.

They have some common friends so they'll likely run into each other again, so there's no reason to shit on each other. They each were PC in their responses and guys are misreading that as into they're banging on the low, because he's African?

He's African in heritage only. The guys I know that are real African playas are real forward dudes who don't give a fuck. They're full-on accent and dark as hell and don't give a fuck. They don't step to white girls with an inferiority complex.

He isn't one of them.

Post: #11

(02-18-2015 01:15 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  He didn't get the bang.
This dude isn't corny.. But you can tell he is just a nice guy.
Nothing about her actions in the video made it seen like she was sexually attracted to him.
It like more like they are good buddies and probably go on play dates with each other... He is her rock to lean on.
Notice towards the end, she made q comment about feeling like he could have already been here friend

She already said that she is not feeling it.

But the real reason behind it is not because of lack of attraction. He ruined it by his Beta-state and lack of Game. It seems to me that she even tried to find him attractive, but could not overcome the lack of tingles.

She told it in full - he was good-looking to her, he has a good job, is a perfect Beta Bucks candidate.

Jeez - the end times are near when black guys are being friendzoned.

It reminds me of that Take Me Out show where extremely attractive men crash and burn on dates because they are deeply immersed in the Nice Guy Beta frame and cannot create real attraction.

The same holds true for this bloke. His consolation price will be that the very same girl will be seeking him out for the proven marriage/divorce-rape combo when she hits 30 and has ridden the carousel long enough.

Post: #12

Jariel, I still think he's banging her on the sly. One doesn't need to go full alpha on every lizard. She's a teacher so she doesn't necessarily need the HAM approach. And she doesn't look all that. Plus her occupation may not look kindly on the casual sex with an engineer so it's got to be a DL movement.
Another thing is, the level of game and bravado that works in Miami can be overkill in other places. That dweeby, moist vibe actually blows over in certain circles.
My style is actually similar to his, resonating on the friendly vibe but my voice is different. My style also works on those teacher type lizards as it appeals to their academic sides.
I'm not defending him cos he's an Aff or styles similar though.
I'm just saying that based on locale and of what I know of Ghanaians home grown and first generation is that they are more subtle.
Each country has its own style. Whether home grown or not, Ghanaians, East Africans (besides Somalians) are going to be more subtle. Nigerians are usually more direct and aggressive.
So based on their locale, her occupation and slightly (his upbringing), I'm still going to say he's poked that.

Post: #13

(02-18-2015 03:50 AM)Moma Wrote:  Jariel, I still think he's banging her on the sly. One doesn't need to go full alpha on every lizard. She's a teacher so she doesn't necessarily need the HAM approach. And she doesn't look all that. Plus her occupation may not look kindly on the casual sex with an engineer so it's got to be a DL movement.

Teachers, nurses, and lawyers are probably the three easiest bangs on Earth.

White women don't look for Black men to be their providers, so the fact that he could be that is irrelevant because she wouldn't be looking for it from him off rip.

We're sexual experiences first. We fuck them first, then they may want to date us after they've had the time to see that we bring other things to the table.

That's how you have to run game with them. No pedestalization. No thirst. No psuedo-white guy game. Attract. Escalate. Fuck first. Date later.

He might have wanted to date her, she might have wanted to fuck him, you can't get the signals crossed, when that happens, the interaction is dead.

All the signs of DOA are there, yet dots are being connected that don't even exist.

Post: #14

"You don’t want to be in a relationship with someone who’s totally random."

While you guys are bickering over whether he got his dick wet, lots of insight to a typical broad.

That's the sort of thing that needs critical investigation.

WIA

Post: #15

That guy is not African American he has more African roots. His acts and talks like a 17 year old white girl, not saying you have to speak in ebonics but needs some bass in his voice I was waiting for him to say "yeah like, whateveerrr".

Post: #16

Fuck date lab, I wouldn't go if they set me up with that fatty. He's a good looking black dude in shape who can do way better.

Post: #17

She'd be hot if only she got into shape. She isn't terrible, but my god, half the time it seems like date lab is determined to set up low value women(fatties) with high value guys.

all of these leads me to believe that DC is hell for dating.

Post: #18

Holy shit. At times bruh man sounds like Erkel.

Post: #19

(02-18-2015 10:08 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  "You don’t want to be in a relationship with someone who’s totally random."

While you guys are bickering over whether he got his dick wet, lots of insight to a typical broad.

That's the sort of thing that needs critical investigation.

WIA

Why bother? She's a basic bitch. This dude did not get any drawls. It's painfully obvious.

She called him interesting before she said it was not going to work out.

That is bitchspeak for "This nigga is weird and creepy but nice and respectful."

Case closed.

Post: #20

(02-18-2015 01:26 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(02-18-2015 10:08 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  "You don’t want to be in a relationship with someone who’s totally random."

While you guys are bickering over whether he got his dick wet, lots of insight to a typical broad.

That's the sort of thing that needs critical investigation.

WIA

Why bother? She's a basic bitch. This dude did not get any drawls. It's painfully obvious.

She called him interesting before she said it was not going to work out.

That is bitchspeak for "This nigga is weird and creepy but nice and respectful."

Case closed.

Post: #21

(02-18-2015 10:21 AM)txbeachbum Wrote:  That guy is not African American he has more African roots. His acts and talks like a 17 year old white girl, not saying you have to speak in ebonics but needs some bass in his voice I was waiting for him to say "yeah like, whateveerrr".

I don't understand that first sentence. He is African American, like a legit one. Not a Black American like me.

Regardless, white women are averse to nerdy black men like this. He probably figures he can take on white girls because a black woman would rip him up.

The biggest threat to a white woman is letting a black man of substance rock their world. If she lets an upstanding citizen like himself hit it and she ends up catching feelings, her social circle/standing is fucked. She would have to make too difficult of a decision about whether or not to let him go. Guys like him are exactly what she needs in a man 100%. Professional, well earning, potentially bright future (He is an engineer), has good values, etc. She is a frumpy, self important, speaks like a man, career woman that is a 5 at best. He is the one dating down, yet she is the one breaking him off. That's how you know the game is fucked up.

Only thing missing is that he isn't good enough for her socially. Like Jariel said before, black men are more likely to marry white women if they make over 200K or something like that. They would have to have much more arbitrage in order to take a hit like that socially. Can you imagine his tall and lanky goofy smile in a family photo with her and her family, as opposed to a pudgy, former military looks cool in a pair of Oakleys and PFG fishing shirts white dude, that is a cop or fireman? She did. That's why she flushed that idea out of her head. She can control that guy and her kids will look the same. More importantly, her parents won't trip.

Post: #22

The issue I'm raising is bigger than this particular transaction.
Bang wise, it could have went either way.

Her comment about not wanting to date some random guy is something that a lot of lizards say.

It's not like attractive lizards have some different thought process than unattractive ones - because they all think they're attractive and they can all show you full OkCupid inboxes - even if they're delusional. Objective SMV really means nothing to a particular lizard's brain.

For the guy that cold approaches (99% of the time you're gonna be some random dude) understanding this sort of thought process, and how to flip it and use it to your advantage is an underutilized part of the game.

WIA

(02-18-2015 01:26 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(02-18-2015 10:08 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  "You don’t want to be in a relationship with someone who’s totally random."

While you guys are bickering over whether he got his dick wet, lots of insight to a typical broad.

That's the sort of thing that needs critical investigation.

WIA

Why bother? She's a basic bitch. This dude did not get any drawls. It's painfully obvious.

She called him interesting before she said it was not going to work out.

That is bitchspeak for "This nigga is weird and creepy but nice and respectful."

Case closed.

Post: #23

WIA - I would say something like we are all random until we get acquainted or appeal to the mystic side. I would quote horoscopes and say our stars made two random people such as you and I come together. It was meant to be. Lizards love illogical kumbaya shyt like that. Lizards hate planned events, they like things to 'just occur' such as when things 'just happen' between themselves and a sexual partner.

Post: #24

(02-18-2015 02:24 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  The issue I'm raising is bigger than this particular transaction.
Bang wise, it could have went either way.

Her comment about not wanting to date some random guy is something that a lot of lizards say.

It's not like attractive lizards have some different thought process than unattractive ones - because they all think they're attractive and they can all show you full OkCupid inboxes - even if they're delusional. Objective SMV really means nothing to a particular lizard's brain.

For the guy that cold approaches (99% of the time you're gonna be some random dude) understanding this sort of thought process, and how to flip it and use it to your advantage is an underutilized part of the game.

WIA

(02-18-2015 01:26 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(02-18-2015 10:08 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  "You don’t want to be in a relationship with someone who’s totally random."

While you guys are bickering over whether he got his dick wet, lots of insight to a typical broad.

That's the sort of thing that needs critical investigation.

WIA

Why bother? She's a basic bitch. This dude did not get any drawls. It's painfully obvious.

She called him interesting before she said it was not going to work out.

That is bitchspeak for "This nigga is weird and creepy but nice and respectful."

Case closed.

I don't agree for the reasons I stated above. If he had cold approached her she would have shooed him off immediately. For this black guy she is one of those 99 out of 100 approaches on white girls, your typical black guy has to go through to snag one.

Because it was a blind date, she had to be cordial and let him go gently. Why? Because they have the same social circle of mutual friends. She cannot in polite company say that she won't date a black guy and don't bring one to me for a blind date. That would make her look uncultured, racist, and classless. It would ruin her reputation. They live in DC. That is Politically Correct Central. No one there is honest about anything, because you cannot afford to be completely honest.

He would have been better off cold approaching this bitch because he would have saved 2 sets of dating money. A quick "No." saves you money. Blind dates are expensive because you actually have to complete at least one date with someone that probably would deny you immediately on the street. This bitch strung him out for 2 dates because she could not drop a hammer on him. If he bought her 2 sets of appetizers, he really got double fucked. She gave him one ride home, so maybe that cancels it out.

In fact, had he been aggressive with kino/touching/kissing the feedback report to their mutual friends could have had a negative impact on his career and circle. They even lived in the same dormitory building back in their college days, so they probably know many of the same people, even if they did not know each other back then.

There was nothing he could have done differently. This was pure politics. Blind and semi-blind dates are aspects of social circle game. That kind of game is the most political kind of all. It also happens to be the toughest to make work well too. There is also a good reason why most people hate blind dates. This is definitely one of them. Very high risk, inconsistent reward.

EDIT: Not saying this chick is racist or anything, but even if she likes black guys, had he cold approached her, she still would have shooed him off at some point, possibly immediately. He is just too much of a dorky engineer or a beta provider. He just isn't the kind of black guy she could have gotten down with.

Post: #25

That was a frumpy-ass white girl. Damn. Don't get me wrong, we all dumpster dive (I know I have), but she was hard to look at. I feel bad for the fellow, honestly; he's one of those blue-pill black guys who is legitimately a good guy who just wants a solid girl and is even willing to look past her plain style to see something more. WHenever I meet a guy like him I am reminded of myself from a couple of years ago. The struggle is real. He's probably ingested so much public school propaganda that he thinks sounding like a 13 year old girl will make him less "threatening" to women. If only safety made it wet.

Didn't know they still made fellows like that.



Anyway, how does a guy like him even develop more of a "cool factor?" Seems like lots of guys are getting on him for his voice and such. He does sound sort of gay with the mild upward ending inflection, but beyond that what would you guys do (beyond just telling me to learn some game) to make him cool enough to snag mediocre, homely white teachers?