Post: #101

(02-13-2015 03:13 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  My opinion?

"With God all things are possible".

So yes, but in practice it takes Jesus to reform a slut.

Weren't seven demons cast out of Mary Magdalene? Maybe there's something in it.

Post: #102

(02-14-2015 07:05 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  As an aside has anyone run into a chick who used to be bout it, but they caught religion and now they no longer let loose?

WIA

I knew one girl who did some seriously slutty shit until she got caught by her spouse. Last I heard, she reformed into a serial monogamist. I should get back in touch with her and find out how that's worked out for her.

I've known married women who slutted it up for a few years but either the wall limits them or they did find some restraint and limit themselves to one extracurricular partner. I don't know any who have completely reformed into a picture of virtue though.

Post: #103

For any of you who were mackin since high school.......


....Ever catch a girl during one of those intermediary periods where she tells you outright she wants to try being good, ambiguously says she desires "a change", then 1 hour later you're swappin fluids?

I'm still a young guy but if this is any indicator, I don't think so.


But as always, lizards are reactive toward their environment. its best not bring your married slut to a place filled with thirsty, appealing bachelors while the doing the same likewise with your "good girl"


I do have one very close chick friend, who admitted she was a bit of a slut in HS, but since senior year has been faithful to her boyfriend, another close friend of mine, for the past 6 years. I do wonder if this is only because he has the pick of the litter at his own college and the girls trying to jump his bones are even more attractive. I'm not sure how many guys are in this sort of situation either.

Post: #104

Not to be a total dick but why has this thread gone over a 100 posts?

Answer is no.

Think about how hard it is for you to change some bad habit you have. And you're a man with discipline and an ability to be logical and see the value of change. A women has no such qualities. To let herself become a slut, gives you the answer on her lack willpower and inability to see the road ahead.

Post: #105

Reform her? Don't bother. Just send her my way.

I was such a dumb ass when I was younger - the reasons I came up with to reject girls. A mole. Loose reputation. This. That. Sooo many lost bangs. But I digress.

Post: #106

(02-15-2015 04:35 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  Whether it be cheating on their man on the D.L. with the buff personal trainer from the gym, the young guy with good game in the office, or just dumping their guy, and then "embracing their freedom" and jumping right back on the cock carousel where they left off.

The point is for an attractive woman the carousel is always waiting for them, they can jump on and off at will, for attractive women their will always be a long line of horny guys waiting in the wings. Then when you factor in a woman's past, and her reference experiences, and impulsive nature to suck and fuck new dicks, it just furthers the risks of her having a relapse. If women held their convictions more highly, and weren't as emotionally cold and distant, while being callous and calculating, this would be less cause for concern.

This is why I think insecurity on a man's part in a relationship situation can be quite justified. Fidelity when things are smooth is easy for a woman, but that's not what matters, what matters is what she'll do when shit gets rough or stale for a moment. Not to mention, the ease with which she can cheat. Cheating doesn't require a commitment from another man, merely crossing the line physically, and this is something always available to women. It's great to think we'll always have our A-game, but I think that's unrealistic. It's psychologically healthier to detach your mind from the idea of fidelity from women, as the ball is almost always in her court in the dating game.

Post: #107

Like they say a man's faithfulness is tested when he has everything. A woman's faithfulness is tested when her man has nothing.

Post: #108

I don't think sluts ever become reformed they just simply go into semi-retirement because they have locked down their (beta bucks or the former alpha) life plan for the moment.

That can change if life changes or the winds blow in a different direction or they have a "finding myself" moment or any number of different things which brings them out of retirement.

Like Danny Glover said in Lethal Weapon "i'm too old for this shit." Yet they'll keep truckin' along if the opportunity presents itself.

Post: #109

Never play Captain Save A Hoe.
Find them, fuck them, split them, then forget them, let the girls go for the next guy to hit them.

Post: #110

This is an interesting topic. What does it mean to be a slut? What does it mean to be a reformed slut? Why do we care?

When the vast majority of men call a woman a slut, they just mean she is a woman that sleeps with other men. I mean to most guys if a girl is sleeping with him then she can't be a slut. The general idea of a slut is that she has low standards for the men she has sex with.

I propose that a true definition of a slut is a woman that uses sex to try and capture a man above her in SMV.

A reform slut therefore would be a woman that understands her SMV and is happy to catch a man generally near herself in SMV.

So, here is the thing, none of us actually know our SMV without input from other people. Young girls chase high value Alphas because these girls are new to life don't understand where they fit in the hierarchy. I mean none of us can seem to agree on what's a 6 or a 7 or even an 8. Imagine a 14 year old girl trying to figure out where she fits in the whole system. I mean at that age they all dream of snagging a prince. Sluts are the ones that figure they can fuck their way into Prince Charming's heart.

Reformed sluts are an interesting concept. I have a buddy that actually married a former prostitute. I believe she was trafficked and didn't have much choice in the matter, however, she has seen more dicks than probably 10 women combined. So, what reasons are acceptable to avoid such women? Our own sexual insecurities? To avoid dealing with headcases and drama?

Post: #111

(06-26-2018 01:36 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  This is an interesting topic. What does it mean to be a slut? What does it mean to be a reformed slut? Why do we care?

When the vast majority of men call a woman a slut, they just mean she is a woman that sleeps with other men. I mean to most guys if a girl is sleeping with him then she can't be a slut. The general idea of a slut is that she has low standards for the men she has sex with.

I propose that a true definition of a slut is a woman that uses sex to try and capture a man above her in SMV.

A reform slut therefore would be a woman that understands her SMV and is happy to catch a man generally near herself in SMV.

So, here is the thing, none of us actually know our SMV without input from other people. Young girls chase high value Alphas because these girls are new to life don't understand where they fit in the hierarchy. I mean none of us can seem to agree on what's a 6 or a 7 or even an 8. Imagine a 14 year old girl trying to figure out where she fits in the whole system. I mean at that age they all dream of snagging a prince. Sluts are the ones that figure they can fuck their way into Prince Charming's heart.

Reformed sluts are an interesting concept. I have a buddy that actually married a former prostitute. I believe she was trafficked and didn't have much choice in the matter, however, she has seen more dicks than probably 10 women combined. So, what reasons are acceptable to avoid such women? Our own sexual insecurities? To avoid dealing with headcases and drama?

Sluts do not deserve any effort of philosophy. To spend that effort on them is to pedestalize them.

Feel free, if you wish though.

Post: #112

(06-26-2018 02:01 PM)Baphomet Wrote:  Sluts do not deserve any effort of philosophy. To spend that effort on them is to pedestalize them.
Feel free, if you wish though.

I think it's an exercise in understanding ourselves as men, and by understanding why we have this category of women we call "sluts"... it naturally kicks the pedestal over.

If you think about it... the concept of a slut... helps buffer us mentally from the pain of rejection faced by most men in the sexual marketplace. I think this is a beginners trick and that most advanced players should move past the slut idea and into something more contemplative and healthy.

Post: #113

(06-26-2018 01:36 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  So, what reasons are acceptable to avoid such women? Our own sexual insecurities? To avoid dealing with headcases and drama?

Traditionally, a man has invested in one woman, with the expectation that she will have his children. Man's greatest problem with this endeavor has been that he has no way of knowing for sure the paternity of the children.

So, how does he solve this problem? By taking known information and making predictions. One of the best pieces of information is the woman's past promiscuity. If she fucked around in the past, she will likely fuck around in the future. This is why virgins have historically been in high demand. This is why women conceal their true number of past partners.

This is something that feminists will never understand. The double standard is not arbitrary. It serves a vital evolutionary function. I also don't think it's a coincidence that the word "cuck" has popped into the general consciousness. Being exploited in such a way is one of the most disastrous things that can happen to a man. It's a sign of societal sickness when that isn't recognized.

Post: #114

I had to restart the thread because I have seen people catch Oneitis on different threads because of their lack of knowledge of what type of girl they are dealing with. I don't think someone would purchase a product that was damaged on the inside.(salvaged title) Sure the outside appeal may catch your eye and fool your senses momentarily but some who over-invest need to be aware their ROI could be better managed elsewhere. Are there any good use for sluts, I'm sure some beta can find some valid points to justify them of more than a pump and dump. To each its own but if it looks like a duck and walk like a duck you know the percentage of a serious LTR diminishes greatly.

Post: #115

As I understand it, and I'm taking liberty to speak for most all other men here: A slut is a woman who is loose with her body and will give herself up sexually very easily.

The reason many men look at sluts in a negative light is because a female who is so carefree about who she lays with generally is a less faithful, loyal, and favorable partner. There is actually a fair bit of research done on this and I'm sure there are a number of members here who would gladly pull up some studies and graphs about the success rates of marriage with a woman who have had multiple partners.

Alternatively, sluts are great for players who prefer to casually sleep with women as sluts are easy to get in bed and generally are much more experienced and open minded in the bedroom.

As for "Can a slut be reformed?" - Yes and No.

I say yes because women can be chameleons and will mold themselves to fit whatever man they are after. Not to mention every hoe has gotta hang up the cleats some day unless you're Nina Hartley or something. Women will change a lot when they get older and when they have kids especially. This sort of forces them to settle down and shift priorities.

Now, I say no because you can never change a woman's past, and a woman's past will always have an effect on who she is today. A girl that has been hoeing around will turn out different than a girl that did not. Simple as that. Girls that are loose with their sexuality will be less loyal, take sex and relationships less seriously, and generally have a harder time really bonding with one single man. This is just how it is and you won't be able to change that about her.

If you are looking for a wife and a mother for your children I would recommend finding a girl with a not-so-impressive sexual history. If you are looking to have fun then find yourself some hoes.

Post: #116

If you are an older dude, you have no fucking choice but to LTR up a former slut.

Over 40 means shes had dick all over the place by the time she comes to you.

Even if they were a good girl and married early etc. after their divorce they got back into shape and "started dating again" you know what that means.

So its either date your hand or love up a former slut.

Post: #117

The short answer is probably not in general, and highly unlikely without any counseling. There is a reason why the term "Damaged goods" was used to describe sluts in the past. I would assume that they are basically functional sex addicts. Marry up a bonafide slut and not only should you have an ironclad pre-nup but you better have her required to go to a sex therapist of your choosing as part of the pre-nup.

Post: #118

(06-26-2018 03:49 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  As I understand it, and I'm taking liberty to speak for most all other men here: A slut is a woman who is loose with her body and will give herself up sexually very easily.

The reason many men look at sluts in a negative light is because a female who is so carefree about who she lays with generally is a less faithful, loyal, and favorable partner. There is actually a fair bit of research done on this and I'm sure there are a number of members here who would gladly pull up some studies and graphs about the success rates of marriage with a woman who have had multiple partners.

Alternatively, sluts are great for players who prefer to casually sleep with women as sluts are easy to get in bed and generally are much more experienced and open minded in the bedroom.

As for "Can a slut be reformed?" - Yes and No.

I say yes because women can be chameleons and will mold themselves to fit whatever man they are after. Not to mention every hoe has gotta hang up the stiletto's some day unless you're Nina Hartley or something. Women will change a lot when they get older and when they have kids especially. This sort of forces them to settle down and shift priorities.

Now, I say no because you can never change a woman's past, and a woman's past will always have an effect on who she is today. A girl that has been hoeing around will turn out different than a girl that did not. Simple as that. Girls that are loose with their sexuality will be less loyal, take sex and relationships less seriously, and generally have a harder time really bonding with one single man. This is just how it is and you won't be able to change that about her.

If you are looking for a wife and a mother for your children I would recommend finding a girl with a not-so-impressive sexual history. If you are looking to have fun then find yourself some hoes.

Fixed it for you: In general I am in agreement with what you had to say. Your answer is basically the long answer to my short one.

Post: #119

Post: #120

There is a reason stronger than supply and demand for why sluts are seen as lower than good girls — they are ruined for life.

Post: #121

What year was this one ?

Post: #122

(06-26-2018 03:49 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  As I understand it, and I'm taking liberty to speak for most all other men here: A slut is a woman who is loose with her body and will give herself up sexually very easily.
The reason many men look at sluts in a negative light is because a female who is so carefree about who she lays with generally is a less faithful, loyal, and favorable partner. There is actually a fair bit of research done on this and I'm sure there are a number of members here who would gladly pull up some studies and graphs about the success rates of marriage with a woman who have had multiple partners.
Alternatively, sluts are great for players who prefer to casually sleep with women as sluts are easy to get in bed and generally are much more experienced and open minded in the bedroom.
As for "Can a slut be reformed?" - Yes and No.
I say yes because women can be chameleons and will mold themselves to fit whatever man they are after. Not to mention every hoe has gotta hang up the cleats some day unless you're Nina Hartley or something. Women will change a lot when they get older and when they have kids especially. This sort of forces them to settle down and shift priorities.
Now, I say no because you can never change a woman's past, and a woman's past will always have an effect on who she is today. A girl that has been hoeing around will turn out different than a girl that did not. Simple as that. Girls that are loose with their sexuality will be less loyal, take sex and relationships less seriously, and generally have a harder time really bonding with one single man. This is just how it is and you won't be able to change that about her.
If you are looking for a wife and a mother for your children I would recommend finding a girl with a not-so-impressive sexual history. If you are looking to have fun then find yourself some hoes.

I think this is generally a good view that fits most guys on this forum.

It was not long ago that I was having this discussion with some campus feminists at an event. We had a fairly long discussion regarding sexual history and why men prefer women with less experience. It is the feminist belief that men prefer women with low experience because of their fear of sexual inadequacy. They contend that men who have large penises and more sexual experience prefer women with higher numbers of sexual partners. They believe that there are some studies that back them up... but I looked up that study and it relied on men who self reported the size of their phallus. I think we can all agree that is unreliable.

It is my personal belief that men instinctively dislike women who sleep around for the very reason you put forth... that women who sleep with men quickly and easily are less loyal and faithful. I believe if you performed a study on the general population under a lie detector... you would find that women with high numbers of sexual partners are also the women who have mental and emotional issues.

I think we have all noticed that women who sell their sexuality... strippers, whores, pornstars... ect. The vast majority of these women have emotional issues before they even consider touching a dick for money.

I think that I can make a strong argument that slutty women are crazy. Does anyone else see this? Or are the feminists correct and I'm just projecting?

Post: #123

Dream Medicine has written extensively about the higher value of less promiscuous women. This post is long but it's one of the best posts ever on the forum. It should probably be a thread in the family subforum. This is a good post also.

(06-26-2018 09:18 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:   It is the feminist belief that men prefer women with low experience because of their fear of sexual inadequacy. They contend that men who have large penises and more sexual experience prefer women with higher numbers of sexual partners. They believe that there are some studies that back them up... but I looked up that study and it relied on men who self reported the size of their phallus. I think we can all agree that is unreliable.

I try to see the positive in everything and I guess the positive in this is that the feminist logic (a.k.a. lies) are entertaining and made me laugh. Most men prefer low experience women for long term relationships. Most men don't prefer low experience women for one night stands or fuck buddies. Think about that.

(06-26-2018 09:18 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  It is my personal belief that men instinctively dislike women who sleep around for the very reason you put forth... that women who sleep with men quickly and easily are less loyal and faithful.

I think your personal belief is more factual than opinion. All of our mating behaviour has roots in reproduction. If a woman gets pregnant then she knows the kid belongs to her. A man doesn't have the same knowledge. Deeply rooted in the psychology and biology of men is a preference to mate with girls who are not promiscuous because they are more trustworthy and the man is less likely to be on the receiving end of male-rape which is having to support a child with his resources when he isn't the true father of the child.

This concept is directly related to many things in cultures and societies. It's the reason why some religions do a lot to control women's sexuality. It's the reason why feminists have fought for ridiculous family court laws and won in many cases. For example, paternity testing is illegal in France.

Heartiste has said that "The goal of feminism is to remove all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality." This might sound extreme to most people but if you understand this concept and how most of our behaviour is driven by our subconscious brain then you will realize that Heartiste is exactly correct. It's depressing to really understand this but it's the truth. It's all a game of power and women have a subconscious desire to be able to do whatever they want without repercussions and use men to support them however they see fit. It sounds harsh but it's just women seeking what is best for their survival and the survival of their offspring.

I think you can see how if you keep going down this path then everything we talk about in the manosphere is connected to this power struggle between men and women which is connected to mating and reproduction. We are just animals trying to survive, both men and women are trying to implement the strategies that are best for their survival, and things like morals and ethics have little impact on our subconscious brains but our conscious brains will rationalize the hell out of anything to justify our behaviour. Those rationalizations are where you get ignorant statements like men prefer low experience women because of their fear of sexual inadequacy.

Post: #124

No.

Post: #125

In one of the anti-porn documentaries there is a former pornographic actress (not star) who went by the name of Crissy Moran. She chobbled over 100 schlongs before finding God and subsequently advocating against porn. Not surprisingly, not long after being welcomed into the Lord's flock a fairly wealthy guy, decent looking saw an opportunity to bag some hot ass and souped up boobs:



She now seems to live the life of an average soccer mum, whose husband showers her in gifts and niceties and supports her jewelry business endeavor.

One thing I've realised is that some people who've been through bad places sometimes compute just how destructive they are and turn against them. You can compare to a drug addict who gets clean and stays clean. No one but them knows the full spectrum of that experience.

But what percentage of drug addicts stay clean? 10%? And how many really come to terms with everything that went on in relation to it? 1%?

It's probably the same with slut reforming. It's not even worth calculating the odds of how it could go when there are 100s of millions of women to approach.

This Crissy girl really landed on her feet. Girls who go the slut route could really learn from her on to how to best play the pretty with big boobs card - turn up in church with your wonder bra on.

With the virtuous equalising power of the left rolling across the land I expect the same opportunities to be meted out to washed up gigaloes and rent boys, fished out of dumpsters and paired off with tight-ass career women.