Post: #1

   

Western women want men to serve THEM most of the time but are unwilling to put in the effort or TIME to make it an intelligent partnership.
Western women are coarse, vulgar, rude, or distinctly lack femininity.
Western women are argumentative, critical, and demanding (i.e. bitchy).
Western women are money-hungry and superficial.
Western women are generally mentally unstable.
Western women use sex as a weapon and reward to get things.
Western women are just bitter and show contempt for men.
Most of non-Western women in Latin America, Asia, and Eastern Europe are the exact opposite of Western women.
Non-Western women do not have anti-male bias and they are not pre-occupied with fairness and trying to prove themselves and to make a point.
Non-Western women are not self-centered and do not have high-maintenance, superficial, and stuck up attitude.
Non-Western women are a lot more mentally stable and they do not use sex as a weapon and reward to get things.
Think about this: what good is it having a western woman if she only views the relationship as a power play? Western women are not raised with the values that make the relationship work. Relationships with western women are all about what she can get from a guy and what she feels she is entitled to.
Ignore western women trying to discourage you from meeting non-western women. Western women feel very threatened by foreign women because they know they can not compete with them, so it makes western women feel worthless and obsolete. Western women know a man will always choose a non-western woman over a western woman if given a chance. It is like Chrysler's former boss Lee Iacocca making you feel guilty for you to buy American cars while selling you the worst junk cars.

Some men think their beat up Ford Escort is the best thing in the world. Why??
Because they never have the pleasure of having a Mercedes, Bentley, Ferrari!

Post: #2

The pic is counter productive in proving you point

Post: #3

when i was in kuala lumpur there were quite a few tourists over from saudi arabia (for shopping i guess). the women were always covered up of course although with most of them you could still see (most of) their face.

what i noticed was what great bodies those chicks tended to have on average; they were virtually all thin and you could def make out great curves in the boob and butt areas; they tended to have great facial features as well (to the extent it wasn't covered up.

seeing what women's nature is really like (e.g. fantasies from My Secret Garden) and inspite of their religious and cultural preconceptions, i wonder how many of them have forbidden fantasies of being ravished by a "barbaric, decadent westerner"

one of the fantasies i have stored in my "bank"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFwjeSe4O...re=related

Post: #4

The picture on the right is a stock picture from istockphoto. It's a model. Most likely a western woman dressed in an Islamic outfit for the photoshoot.

Post: #5

(05-08-2011 08:42 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  The picture on the right is a stock picture from istockphoto. It's a model. Most likely a western woman dressed in an Islamic outfit for the photoshoot.

Who cares? Don't worry about the damn picture and focus on what I said about Western women and non-Western women. For your information that women is in fact a Muslim and I did not get that picture from istockphoto.

Post: #6

I dated a foreign muslim woman once who has been known to dress exactly like the woman in the picture. In fact, her facebook picture is her in that exact outfit. She dressed normally when we went out and when she went out in public in the States.

She was one of the hottest, sweetest, and most feminine women that I have ever dated. She's back in Iran now, but if she were not then I'd be making a heavy play for her. In fact, I still flirt with her over facebook. I like the fact that I know what to say (small sweet things that very indirectly allude to sexual thoughts - like off handedly telling her that I had a dream about her - don't laugh a**holes, its a different kind of game with native born persian virgins!) that will turn her on (make her wet) big time, but that she won't ever acknowledge that fact. Its very, very hot.

Just imagine the dynamic of going out with a 25 year old virgin who was about an 8.5! (9 face - 8 body) I was her first kiss.

Post: #7

The only western women that I see can compare to Eastern Europe and Latin America women is Canadian women: Montreal, Quebec, Calgary, Vancouver.

I have never met a Canadian woman that has been bitchy to me or anyone I know. 100% of all of my encounters with Canadian women have been very pleasant. Even the ones I did not get to bang were very friendly and pleasant to talk to.

Mixx

Post: #8

(05-08-2011 08:42 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  The picture on the right is a stock picture from istockphoto. It's a model. Most likely a western woman dressed in an Islamic outfit for the photoshoot.

That chick looks Persian or Lebanese or something around there. That's probably the "average" face of that region.

Post: #9

(05-08-2011 11:27 AM)BlackWolf Wrote:  Who cares? Don't worry about the damn picture and focus on what I said about Western women and non-Western women. For your information that women is in fact a Muslim and I did not get that picture from istockphoto.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=1833995

Doesn't matter if you got if from there or not. That is where it's from. It's a model. Not the average opposite of a Western woman that you are trying to potray. And how do you know for a fact that she is a Muslim? Muslim women that wear a hijab don't usually model for stock pictures.

(05-08-2011 03:24 PM)kerouac Wrote:  That chick looks Persian or Lebanese or something around there. That's probably the "average" face of that region.

Possibly. But, definitely not the traditional Eastern woman that the photo is supposed to characterize.

Post: #10

(05-08-2011 04:13 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(05-08-2011 11:27 AM)BlackWolf Wrote:  Who cares? Don't worry about the damn picture and focus on what I said about Western women and non-Western women. For your information that women is in fact a Muslim and I did not get that picture from istockphoto.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=1833995

Doesn't matter if you got if from there or not. That is where it's from. It's a model. Not the average opposite of a Western woman that you are trying to potray. And how do you know for a fact that she is a Muslim? Muslim women that wear a hijab don't usually model for stock pictures.

(05-08-2011 03:24 PM)kerouac Wrote:  That chick looks Persian or Lebanese or something around there. That's probably the "average" face of that region.

Possibly. But, definitely not the traditional Eastern woman that the photo is supposed to characterize.

You're off topic once again. Everybody on here is commenting on the topic I posted and here you're still stuck commenting on the picture that came from istockphoto.You went through all the trouble for nothing to prove that the picture came from istockphoto like I'm supposed to give a damn. You shouldn't even care where I got it from. Like I said before who cares? The pictures I posted was to show the difference between women from different cultures. Not that women in the tan top in her underwear and the women in a hijab are paid models. SO WHAT. By the way, how you know that Muslim women who wears hijabs don't usually model for stock pictures? Stop being childish.

Post: #11

Wait a second: I'm pretty sure I saw that picture on istockphoto.com

Post: #12

(05-08-2011 05:51 PM)BlackWolf Wrote:  

(05-08-2011 04:13 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(05-08-2011 11:27 AM)BlackWolf Wrote:  Who cares? Don't worry about the damn picture and focus on what I said about Western women and non-Western women. For your information that women is in fact a Muslim and I did not get that picture from istockphoto.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=1833995

Doesn't matter if you got if from there or not. That is where it's from. It's a model. Not the average opposite of a Western woman that you are trying to potray. And how do you know for a fact that she is a Muslim? Muslim women that wear a hijab don't usually model for stock pictures.

(05-08-2011 03:24 PM)kerouac Wrote:  That chick looks Persian or Lebanese or something around there. That's probably the "average" face of that region.

Possibly. But, definitely not the traditional Eastern woman that the photo is supposed to characterize.

You're off topic once again. Everybody on here is commenting on the topic I posted and here you're still stuck commenting on the picture that came from istockphoto.You went through all the trouble for nothing to prove that the picture came from istockphoto like I'm supposed to give a damn. You shouldn't even care where I got it from. Like I said before who cares? The pictures I posted was to show the difference between women from different cultures. Not that women in the tan top in her underwear and the women in a hijab are paid models. SO WHAT. By the way, how you know that Muslim women who wears hijabs don't usually model for stock pictures? Stop being childish.

There's nothing else to comment about. Your post is nothing but an angry rant that is rehash of much of the discussion on this board.

There are many others who demolish Western women much more eloquently. Roosh for one. He covers this topic extensively on his blog.

You just come off as angry, frustrated and way too negative.

Post: #13

(05-08-2011 04:13 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(05-08-2011 03:24 PM)kerouac Wrote:  That chick looks Persian or Lebanese or something around there. That's probably the "average" face of that region.

Possibly. But, definitely not the traditional Eastern woman that the photo is supposed to characterize.

The photo is titled "Muslim Woman" on istockphoto.com ... she looks like a pretty typical muslim woman to me. There are different types of muslims, and since Islam is a religion and not an ethnicity there are different looks. This chick looks like a typical muslim girl you would see in the region around Iran.

Post: #14

(05-07-2011 10:40 PM)BlackWolf Wrote:  Western women want men to serve THEM most of the time but are unwilling to put in the effort or TIME to make it an intelligent partnership.
Western women are argumentative, critical, and demanding (i.e. bitchy).
Western women are money-hungry and superficial.
Western women are generally mentally unstable.
Western women use sex as a weapon and reward to get things.
Non-Western women are not self-centered and do not have high-maintenance, superficial, and stuck up attitude.
Non-Western women are a lot more mentally stable and they do not use sex as a weapon and reward to get things.
Think about this: what good is it having a western woman if she only views the relationship as a power play? Western women are not raised with the values that make the relationship work. Relationships with western women are all about what she can get from a guy and what she feels she is entitled to.

I think this is all BS. There are girls all over the world that have these bad attributes. These are negative qualities that you can find in Non-Western women as well.

Post: #15

(05-08-2011 11:51 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

(05-07-2011 10:40 PM)BlackWolf Wrote:  Western women want men to serve THEM most of the time but are unwilling to put in the effort or TIME to make it an intelligent partnership.
Western women are argumentative, critical, and demanding (i.e. bitchy).
Western women are money-hungry and superficial.
Western women are generally mentally unstable.
Western women use sex as a weapon and reward to get things.
Non-Western women are not self-centered and do not have high-maintenance, superficial, and stuck up attitude.
Non-Western women are a lot more mentally stable and they do not use sex as a weapon and reward to get things.
Think about this: what good is it having a western woman if she only views the relationship as a power play? Western women are not raised with the values that make the relationship work. Relationships with western women are all about what she can get from a guy and what she feels she is entitled to.

I think this is all BS. There are girls all over the world that have these bad attributes. These are negative qualities that you can find in Non-Western women as well.

Agreed 100%, I've had the displeasure of meeting some of them both here while they were in America, and abroad while I was traveling.

Post: #16

(05-08-2011 09:49 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(05-08-2011 05:51 PM)BlackWolf Wrote:  

(05-08-2011 04:13 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(05-08-2011 11:27 AM)BlackWolf Wrote:  Who cares? Don't worry about the damn picture and focus on what I said about Western women and non-Western women. For your information that women is in fact a Muslim and I did not get that picture from istockphoto.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=1833995

Doesn't matter if you got if from there or not. That is where it's from. It's a model. Not the average opposite of a Western woman that you are trying to potray. And how do you know for a fact that she is a Muslim? Muslim women that wear a hijab don't usually model for stock pictures.

(05-08-2011 03:24 PM)kerouac Wrote:  That chick looks Persian or Lebanese or something around there. That's probably the "average" face of that region.

Possibly. But, definitely not the traditional Eastern woman that the photo is supposed to characterize.

You're off topic once again. Everybody on here is commenting on the topic I posted and here you're still stuck commenting on the picture that came from istockphoto.You went through all the trouble for nothing to prove that the picture came from istockphoto like I'm supposed to give a damn. You shouldn't even care where I got it from. Like I said before who cares? The pictures I posted was to show the difference between women from different cultures. Not that women in the tan top in her underwear and the women in a hijab are paid models. SO WHAT. By the way, how you know that Muslim women who wears hijabs don't usually model for stock pictures? Stop being childish.

There's nothing else to comment about. Your post is nothing but an angry rant that is rehash of much of the discussion on this board.

There are many others who demolish Western women much more eloquently. Roosh for one. He covers this topic extensively on his blog.

You just come off as angry, frustrated and way too negative.

If there's nothing to talk about than why waste time coming to this thread? Do you do this in every thread? I find you highly annoying. You're like fly who just won't go away. You must have low self of esteem or something. ever since you came to this thread, you've been nothing but childish. If you don't like this website, than leave. We don't need you. I don't know what you're trying to prove. Whatever it is, it's not working.

Post: #17

(05-08-2011 11:51 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

(05-07-2011 10:40 PM)BlackWolf Wrote:  Western women want men to serve THEM most of the time but are unwilling to put in the effort or TIME to make it an intelligent partnership.
Western women are argumentative, critical, and demanding (i.e. bitchy).
Western women are money-hungry and superficial.
Western women are generally mentally unstable.
Western women use sex as a weapon and reward to get things.
Non-Western women are not self-centered and do not have high-maintenance, superficial, and stuck up attitude.
Non-Western women are a lot more mentally stable and they do not use sex as a weapon and reward to get things.
Think about this: what good is it having a western woman if she only views the relationship as a power play? Western women are not raised with the values that make the relationship work. Relationships with western women are all about what she can get from a guy and what she feels she is entitled to.

I think this is all BS. There are girls all over the world that have these bad attributes. These are negative qualities that you can find in Non-Western women as well.

No really? I ever said all western women and non-western women are like that. However you're more likely find more non western women with more moral standards than western women. That's a fact.

Post: #18

(05-08-2011 09:19 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  Wait a second: I'm pretty sure I saw that picture on istockphoto.com

Wait a second: I'm pretty sure no one gives a damn.

Post: #19

(05-08-2011 11:27 AM)BlackWolf Wrote:  

(05-08-2011 08:42 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  The picture on the right is a stock picture from istockphoto. It's a model. Most likely a western woman dressed in an Islamic outfit for the photoshoot.

Who cares? Don't worry about the damn picture and focus on what I said about Western women and non-Western women. For your information that women is in fact a Muslim and I did not get that picture from istockphoto.

If you want people to focus on what you are saying, then why post the pictures up? They are misleading from your point and are distracting from the point you are trying to drive home. The whole idea of pictures are to add to your statement not detract from them.

That's why peeps are baffled.

Post: #20

(05-08-2011 11:46 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  I dated a foreign muslim woman once who has been known to dress exactly like the woman in the picture. In fact, her facebook picture is her in that exact outfit. She dressed normally when we went out and when she went out in public in the States.

She was one of the hottest, sweetest, and most feminine women that I have ever dated. She's back in Iran now, but if she were not then I'd be making a heavy play for her. In fact, I still flirt with her over facebook. I like the fact that I know what to say (small sweet things that very indirectly allude to sexual thoughts - like off handedly telling her that I had a dream about her - don't laugh a**holes, its a different kind of game with native born persian virgins!) that will turn her on (make her wet) big time, but that she won't ever acknowledge that fact. Its very, very hot.

Just imagine the dynamic of going out with a 25 year old virgin who was about an 8.5! (9 face - 8 body) I was her first kiss.

Did you penetrate her?

Post: #21

(05-09-2011 09:03 AM)BlackWolf Wrote:  

(05-08-2011 11:51 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

(05-07-2011 10:40 PM)BlackWolf Wrote:  Western women want men to serve THEM most of the time but are unwilling to put in the effort or TIME to make it an intelligent partnership.
Western women are argumentative, critical, and demanding (i.e. bitchy).
Western women are money-hungry and superficial.
Western women are generally mentally unstable.
Western women use sex as a weapon and reward to get things.
Non-Western women are not self-centered and do not have high-maintenance, superficial, and stuck up attitude.
Non-Western women are a lot more mentally stable and they do not use sex as a weapon and reward to get things.
Think about this: what good is it having a western woman if she only views the relationship as a power play? Western women are not raised with the values that make the relationship work. Relationships with western women are all about what she can get from a guy and what she feels she is entitled to.

I think this is all BS. There are girls all over the world that have these bad attributes. These are negative qualities that you can find in Non-Western women as well.

No really? I ever said all western women and non-western women are like that. However you're more likely find more non western women with more moral standards than western women. That's a fact.

When you say non-western women, from which particular countries do you speak of?

Post: #22

(05-09-2011 09:23 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(05-09-2011 09:03 AM)BlackWolf Wrote:  

(05-08-2011 11:51 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

(05-07-2011 10:40 PM)BlackWolf Wrote:  Western women want men to serve THEM most of the time but are unwilling to put in the effort or TIME to make it an intelligent partnership.
Western women are argumentative, critical, and demanding (i.e. bitchy).
Western women are money-hungry and superficial.
Western women are generally mentally unstable.
Western women use sex as a weapon and reward to get things.
Non-Western women are not self-centered and do not have high-maintenance, superficial, and stuck up attitude.
Non-Western women are a lot more mentally stable and they do not use sex as a weapon and reward to get things.
Think about this: what good is it having a western woman if she only views the relationship as a power play? Western women are not raised with the values that make the relationship work. Relationships with western women are all about what she can get from a guy and what she feels she is entitled to.

I think this is all BS. There are girls all over the world that have these bad attributes. These are negative qualities that you can find in Non-Western women as well.

No really? I ever said all western women and non-western women are like that. However you're more likely find more non western women with more moral standards than western women. That's a fact.

When you say non-western women, from which particular countries do you speak of?

Post: #23

You're generalizing a little much.

To begin with, I think many of the biggest concerns we have with "western" women are greatly magnified within American society, which I think has some of the most warped gender dynamics (owing largely to its legacy of puritanism and the hypocritical oversights that result from it) in the Western world.

When you mention this:
'Western women are coarse, vulgar, rude, or distinctly lack femininity."

I think primarily of Americans, and then secondarily (to a significantly lesser extent than the US but still more so than most other nations) some Scandinavian women (Denmark in particular judging from Roosh's anecdotes). As MiXX states, this issue is less common in Canada, and judging from what I've heard its also not as big of a concern in Poland or the Baltics (areas listed as "Western" according to your map).

I think the dynamic is the same with your second claim:

"Western women are argumentative, critical, and demanding (i.e. bitchy)."

Common problem in the US, less so even in many parts of Western Europe(ex. France) and Canada.

These claims here:
"Western women are money-hungry and superficial.
Western women are generally mentally unstable."

You can find them outside of the Western world as well, sometimes to an even greater extent. Generalizing isn't accurate in this regard, and will only allow the greencard hunters more leeway than they deserve.
While I'll generally agree that(at least with regards to the US) a high level of consumerism and materialism within this culture may lead to more superficility than other parts of the world are used to, it would not be wise to assume this to be solely a western trait. Go to Colombia, Russia or Thailand and you'll find plenty of superficial women(perhaps even to your advantage).

To summarize, I see where your frustration is coming from, but in this case it has not been accurately channeled.

Post: #24

I'm pretty sure both of those photo's are from istockphoto.com . Why are you posting pictures from istockphoto?

Post: #25

It COULD be said that....

Some Western men ALLOW Western women to make them serve THEM most of the time WITHOUT requiring the Western women to put effort or TIME to make it an intelligent partnership.
Some Western men ALLOW Western women to be coarse, vulgar, rude, or distinctly lack femininity.
Some Western men continue to deal with Western women who are argumentative, critical, and demanding (i.e. bitchy).
Some Western men continue to deal with Western women are money-hungry and superficial.
Some Western men continue to deal with Western women are generally mentally unstable.
Some Western men ALLOW Western women use sex as a weapon and reward to get things.