Post: #26

YAY I MADE ROOSH LAUGH I AM COOL NOW -2 FTW LOLZ

Somebody asked me for advice! FOr a change, I am useful! Breathe deep...savor the moment..

Text on thursday is fine. Aspergers people actually prefer to communicate that way because you can just read the words without having to worry about such things as tone of voice, body language, or displaying the proper reaction to the other person. It's simpler. And don't worry too much about being "needy" - I'm guessing those guys simply interpreted her nonresponsiveness as disinterest and went WHYY DON"T YOU LIIKEE MEEEE

Speaking of simple: here are some "robot rules" so you can be super cool like thecrazyfool. (Well, I'm not cool, but you get the idea.)

1. Don't talk about Aspergers! Or any mental illness. Unless she brings it up. And don't make fun of people for being crazy, even if she does. It's sort of like racially charged humor: it's only "ok" when we do it.

2. A little beta goes a long way. Don't overdo the warmth and comfort - it's something we're not used to getting much of and we close off very quickly if you overdo it - but you will get absolutely no where with your custom suited solo doloing DHVing neg-dropping kiss-close takeawaying self. Be fun to be with and listen to her long and pointless rambling because most people will not.

3. Be careful with escalation - do it slowwwwly. If you grab her or god forbid, try to kiss her, she will flip out. Instead of a kiss, go for holding hands or a hug at first. This sounds like a bad idea but take it from someone who knows what it's like. The more she lets you touch her, the more she trusts you.

4. Don't try to tell complicated jokes or fancy body language. 9/10 times she won't get it.

5. At first the robot will view physical contact and extended social interaction as the price to be paid for going on a "date." Eventually, though, it will start to desire more of it, though it won't recognize it consciously as such for some time. Once it does, though, it won't want to leave you alone...

If it doesn't work out don't worry about it. It will not have been caused by something you did.

Post: #27

I went out with a girl with asperger and let me be frank: the obstacles to overcome are several. Think well about it, as you are embarking on an overly problematic quest.

I didnt realize she had asperger initially, I just thought she had some OCD or that was extremely neurotic. That said, I wouldnt recommend investing too much time in her. She probably makes a good friend (might have hot friends if she is hot) but that's it. In my case I ended up pitying the girl rather than being attracted to her (nothing ever happened between us after 2 dates, a record).

These are a few of the patterns I noticed:

- Averse to physical contact with me.

- Averse to eye contact or any interaction with strangers.

- Very low self esteem "You are so social, I cant be like you are."

- Overly shy, socially recluse.

- Incapable to grasp an innuendo or subtleties of any kind. Especially sexual overtures.

I didnt manage to bang her nor to kiss her. Her robotic behavior made it impossible. With 20/20 hindsight I realize she was very conflicted and didnt know how to express her sexuality. For instance, she hanged out with me and put herself in situations where a girl would go only if you have some type of chemistry and she wants to sleep/hang with you.

Facts rather than words: on a 2nd date we went for drinks and the chemistry was good, despite some awkward moment. After drinks she agreed to come up into my place, around midnight, "while I cook some pasta" (In the end no pasta ;-)). Once inside we ended up watching a movie in my room ("lets watch it in my room rather than in the living room in case my roommate comes back"). She made no objections to any of these blatant overtures.

Well, we watched this movie and no matter trying every possible freeze out I got absolutely nothing out of it - no kiss, no bang. Just an awful massage and the partially removal of her sweater.

What I found interesting (and yes, frustrating) is that she didnt want to leave after she didnt agree to turn things sexual. She was watching the movie. She was embarrassed by her inability to be sexual (she even muttered something like "sorry, I'm not good with guys"), still, she stayed to watch the movie until I called it a night. I had to basically send her packing (in a nice way).

In conclusion, observing her behavior was like looking at a someone that wants something but is unable to express himself. The disconnect was major and her inability to grasp what was socially awkward was even more appalling.

Good girl, but frankly too many issues to overcome to be willing to stick around.

My two cents ;-)

Post: #28

I would actually put in some work if she looked good. I bet those girls are huge freaks plus you can always share the story when you're older

Post: #29

wow i hope she's note that bad when i meet her. I don't think that she would be, how could she be a pilot if she was a full aspie?

And yea I hope shes a freak! haha

Post: #30

(05-06-2011 10:46 PM)gringochileno Wrote:  Your optimal vibe here might actually be somewhat beta since odds are this girl's had it really rough and been made fun of

Wow, great summary of Asperger's social symptoms, are you a psychologist or something?

Post: #31

Man, this whole time I was misreading the title of this thread. All along, I thought you were talking about a girl with this problem:

   

Post: #32

You will only find out if a woman has a mild form of Aspergers Syndrome if she (or someone else) tells you she has been diagnosed, or you spend many, many years interacting with her and discover the same issues and/or arguments coming up again and again.

There are no obvious signs. You cannot tell from the way she looks or in the way she speaks.
In that way it is similar to Bipolar disorder. There is just no way to tell without years spent together.
Bipolar is much worse though....aspergers is way more subtle and will slip under your radar easily for a long time.

I have had ex girlfriends that I had very long relationships with, and they were diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome or Bipolar disorder years after we split up and I was clueless the whole time we were together.

These girls were very good looking, smart, quite feminine and very very good in bed.
I had some of the most intense and amazing sex with these girls, which I can still remember vividly today.

After they told me they were diagnosed a lot of things started to make sense.
Especially the misunderstandings and arguments I used to constantly have with them over and over again.

My point is, girls with this condition will appear attractive, act normal and be very hot and with a very wet pussy when they are turned on.
I would not hesitate to go out with a girl and bang her repeatedly, even if I knew beforehand she had aspergers.

My advice is this:
If she's hot....be patient and do not give up.
The sex is worth it.

Post: #33

OMG I wish I had read this thread 3 months ago.

I went out with this super hot girl with the perfect ass. Initially I thought she was just a self absorbed pompous bitch. Now I realize she has mild aspy. I feel so bad, but deep down I relate to her because I am not that socially connected either.

She super pretty with nice skin and hair, dress well because her mom buys her really nice clothes. She's super smart, studies electrical engineering. But similar sh-t - told me straight up she doesn't like talking on the phone. When I texted her - Nice meeting you. She doesn't text back. But when I invited her out she comes out but she never confirms it. Just show up. I brought her to my apartment she never objected.

She would outright text me - I will not be free the next 3 weekends. Like who text people that. Maybe say, I'll be out of town, I have an exam coming up etc. She never smiles, never makes eye contact. Even with flat facial expression she is very pretty, but if she smiles or get excited at all she would be gorgeous.

She goes to Dungeon and Dragon conventions, comic, anime conventions, play video games.

I actually dropped her after the first date because it was so awkward, but then she texted me couple weeks later. Also she has the most perfect ass. Eventually I got so frustrated with her that I texted her an angry message saying that I will only date girls who are enthusiastic to see me. Well, that's the end of that.

In retrospect, I should have been more patient, just give her exact instructions on what to do, to say.

Haha, I tried playing the question game with her because she did not ask a single question about me. And she literally could not come up with a question to ask, and told me in my face that she is not interested in anything about me. I think I have to literally tell her, "well, ask me about my hobbies. Ask me about my family."

Cute cute smart girl though. So sad. Never had a BF. Probably pissed everyone off. Read bunch of SF novels, and play Dungeon and Dragon. Perfect body and skin. What a waste.

Post: #34

^^^^^^

Some of the experiences I had with my ex girl were very similar to yours Excalibur....except that I was in a relationship.

Girls with aspergers have enormous difficulty expressing their emotions even if they really like you and are totally into you.

They will at times appear selfish, cold and indifferent and not ask questions. You often will not get a "was lovely to be with you" after a great date....and they generally struggle to show appreciation and gratitude towards you. You really have to give them simple instructions what you expect for a lot of things....things that are obvious to other girls like saying thank you or being affectionate in words and actions. You will resent the fact that you have to tell her to be like this for such basic things that should come naturally to a girl, but sometimes there is no other way. Their reactions to important events can be delayed as well....as if nothing phases them, no matter how dramatic.
I mistook it for being stoic.

These girls can be very smart, and very good looking.
You'll never tell beforehand there's something wrong.
When you do finally get some strong positive emotions out of them, it feels like you have reached a huge accomplishment and you feel special.
Perversely, it actually makes you feel she's worth more cause you worked so hard for it.

Game and the red pill is already difficult enough to understand when you're a newbie....
But gaming cute smart girls with aspergers.....wow, that's just game on a whole nother level.
A real mindfuck.

Post: #35

(11-29-2015 03:31 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  ^^^^^^

Some of the experiences I had with my ex girl were very similar to yours Excalibur....except that I was in a relationship.

Girls with aspergers have enormous difficulty expressing their emotions even if they really like you and are totally into you.

They will at times appear selfish, cold and indifferent and not ask questions. You often will not get a "was lovely to be with you" after a great date....and they generally struggle to show appreciation and gratitude towards you. You really have to give them simple instructions what you expect for a lot of things....things that are obvious to other girls like saying thank you or being affectionate in words and actions. You will resent the fact that you have to tell her to be like this for such basic things that should come naturally to a girl, but sometimes there is no other way. Their reactions to important events can be delayed as well....as if nothing phases them, no matter how dramatic.
I mistook it for being stoic.

These girls can be very smart, and very good looking.
You'll never tell beforehand there's something wrong.
When you do finally get some strong positive emotions out of them, it feels like you have reached a huge accomplishment and you feel special.
Perversely, it actually makes you feel she's worth more cause you worked so hard for it.

Game and the red pill is already difficult enough to understand when you're a newbie....
But gaming cute smart girls with aspergers.....wow, that's just game on a whole nother level.
A real mindfuck.

I dated a gal with asbergers for about two months. She sometimes could not control what would come out of her mouth. We could be at a movie or a nice restaurant and she may blurt out the words fuck or cunt out of the blue. Here's the great thing...she would always be so upset that she thought she was embarrassing me it would lead to a hell of a blow job.

Handicap guilt game works. Just sit back and let the disabilities do their magic.

Post: #36

I've found that girls on lots of meds act about the same as you guys are describing above.

Post: #37

(05-09-2011 10:16 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:Mistake number 3: Letting off the pressure. If you're really interested in the girl you need to keep at it. Think like a robot: "MINIMAL LEVEL OF COMMITMENT REGISTERED FOR EVENT KNOWN AS "DATE" = LOW INTEREST LEVEL? "DATE" IS HIGH_VALUE_EVENT, REQUIRES INTERPERSONAL CONTACT :ERROR: SUBJECT REQUESTS EXCEED SOCIAL INTERACTION CAPACITY. TERMINATE INTERACTION AND WAIT FOR FURTHER INPUT."

Wait?!?! Isn't this how everybody thinks?

Post: #38

Those girls are just extremely nervous women with social anxiety who will essentially do anything in bed to compensate for their extreme insecurity. Very socially awkward, so she would a side-plate for a couple bangs, not really a serious long-term prospect.

Post: #39

I wouldn't waste your time with these types of girls. Besides why would you take these women away from the men have Aspergers

Post: #40

I predict either:
a. invincible anti-slut defense (cannot let her instincts take over, has internalised what other girls say without realising that they break their own rules)
b. rational, scheduled gigolo-customer type relations (allows her instincts to take over in her home bedroom between 9 and 12 pm Saturdays, so long as she has them and you on a leash)
c. flaking if there is no clear plan, or if she realises you don't fit into her plan after all.

Her deeply repressed female instincts tell her she is an outcast.
This means almost anyone is higher status than her, so play the comfort game.
This would include not expecting her to be in the least bit spontaneous or reciprocal.
(You're in a temple of some foreign religion. Suddenly everyone stands and claps once. You awkwardly follow, but everyone has already sat down again. Do you feel comfortable?)

Text game and real life game would be almost identical up until physical escalation, which should not be in a public place.
Social proof means nothing, because they don't notice contextual details, they notice what they are analysing at that given moment.
She may not want to examine your eyeballs at any great length.

Post: #41

(12-02-2015 01:57 AM)Caribou Wrote:  I wouldn't waste your time with these types of girls. Besides why would you take these women away from the men have Aspergers

A girl with aspergers is still a girl. She will still be much more attracted to a strong and confident man who leads. She will still only get wet between the legs when you seduce and escalate properly like a man should. Despite their minds working very differently, their pussies are like all other females. You still need game.

They do not want a man with aspergers.
They want a real man.

Post: #42

(05-08-2011 09:27 PM)thecrazyfool Wrote:  As someone on the autism spectrum (ADHD is considered to be on it) I can actually analyze your mistakes for you and correct a few mistaken assumptions you made.

ADHD is not on the spectrum.

Aspie girls are direct with their intentions, but tend to be disinterested in romance.

"We don't understand what causes autism and Asperger's, or why more boys have these syndromes than girls, but some scientists conceive of them as expressions of extreme 'maleness'—a talent for systemizing as opposed to empathizing."

They may come off as robotic, but there are no games, just anxiety. The key is to meet them in real life. They rarely hide their true feelings then.

User Samseau got it right.

Post: #43

(12-02-2015 04:13 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 01:57 AM)Caribou Wrote:  I wouldn't waste your time with these types of girls. Besides why would you take these women away from the men have Aspergers

A girl with aspergers is still a girl. She will still be much more attracted to a strong and confident man who leads. She will still only get wet between the legs when you seduce and escalate properly like a man should. Despite their minds working very differently, their pussies are like all other females. You still need game.

They do not want a man with aspergers.
They want a real man.

So you support taking women away from men and causing more Elliott rogers just think for a minute you can date normal women they can't

Post: #44

(11-29-2015 04:53 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  You will only find out if a woman has a mild form of Aspergers Syndrome if she (or someone else) tells you she has been diagnosed, or you spend many, many years interacting with her and discover the same issues and/or arguments coming up again and again.

There are no obvious signs. You cannot tell from the way she looks or in the way she speaks.
In that way it is similar to Bipolar disorder. There is just no way to tell without years spent together.
Bipolar is much worse though....aspergers is way more subtle and will slip under your radar easily for a long time.

I have had ex girlfriends that I had very long relationships with, and they were diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome or Bipolar disorder years after we split up and I was clueless the whole time we were together.

These girls were very good looking, smart, quite feminine and very very good in bed.
I had some of the most intense and amazing sex with these girls, which I can still remember vividly today.

After they told me they were diagnosed a lot of things started to make sense.
Especially the misunderstandings and arguments I used to constantly have with them over and over again.

My point is, girls with this condition will appear attractive, act normal and be very hot and with a very wet pussy when they are turned on.
I would not hesitate to go out with a girl and bang her repeatedly, even if I knew beforehand she had aspergers.

My advice is this:
If she's hot....be patient and do not give up.
The sex is worth it.

Obviously you weren't dating women with us aspergers because you can usually tell if a person has aspergers. You might not know it's aspergers they will appear a bit off.

Post: #45

^ Caribou, do you have Aspergers? Just curious.

Post: #46

(12-03-2015 07:41 PM)Caribou Wrote:  So you support taking women away from men and causing more Elliott rogers just think for a minute you can date normal women they can't

That's how an angry jealous beta thinks.

Aspergers or not, women always vote with their pussies.

If you don't want to work on yourself and learn from this forum how to keep making her pussy tingle, your cute/hot aspergers girl will eventually ignore you, dump your ass, or cheat on you.....and will decide all by herself she only wants to open her legs really wide for the guy who always knows how to make her gushing wet.

Don't jealous of that guy "taking women away"....but instead "be that guy".

Post: #47

(12-03-2015 07:41 PM)Caribou Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 04:13 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 01:57 AM)Caribou Wrote:  I wouldn't waste your time with these types of girls. Besides why would you take these women away from the men have Aspergers

A girl with aspergers is still a girl. She will still be much more attracted to a strong and confident man who leads. She will still only get wet between the legs when you seduce and escalate properly like a man should. Despite their minds working very differently, their pussies are like all other females. You still need game.

They do not want a man with aspergers.
They want a real man.

So you support taking women away from men and causing more Elliott rogers just think for a minute you can date normal women they can't

That's not how it works. Aspie girls don't gravitate towards Aspie dudes and vice versa. They don't move around in a separate Aspie bubble.

Girls with Aspergers don't "belong" to Aspie guys, that's correct, but it doesn't mean that male Aspies aren't "real men" or that they aren't otherwise able to get normal girls. Isn't that what the purpose of this forum is? I'd be extremely surprised if at there isn't at least a segment of this forum who is on the spectrum, whether or not they're able to profit off it.

Post: #48

"I dated a gal with asbergers for about two months. She sometimes could not control what would come out of her mouth. We could be at a movie or a nice restaurant and she may blurt out the words fuck or cunt out of the blue. Here's the great thing...she would always be so upset that she thought she was embarrassing me it would lead to a hell of a blow job."

Ahm, that is Tourette's, not indicative of being an aspie...

I also think a lot of the responses on here are misguided in terms of what Asperger's actually is. Just because a girl is a bit awkward doesn't mean she has a full blown spectrum disorder-- she's just weird.

A person with Asperger's will try to replicate normal social conventions as witnessed in person, in movies, etc, but it will all come off as try hard and weird, similar to a beta male trying to replicate an alpha male.

Basically, what is subconscious for you and I must be a conscious thought to them. It truly is a debilitating ailment.

I once dated an Aspie girl-- and although she is still a good friend of mine, I could never date her romantically. I, like most of the men on this forum, are attracted to the feminine characteristics of women that come naturally to them. Being an Aspie means that is removed, more or less.

We were watching a movie together and I was just lightly playing with her hair, which most girls love. She tried to replicate this behavior because she thought it was the logical thing to do-- so she started rubbing my arm. No, not in the way we like it (soft nail tracing movements)-- but rather like she had sandpaper in her palm and was trying to make my arm as smooth as possible. It felt like a snakebite that I thought would never end.

Beautiful girl though, but did not bang. The attraction buttons were not pushed.

Post: #49

Just a caveat: I have noticed more and more among online dating women to state that they have some form of mental/physical condition or ailment. I have encountered all of the following at one time or another, either on their profiles or uncovered through text messaging: chronic pain, fibromyalgia, stomach problems, Crohn's disease, gluten intolerance, Asperger's disease, depression, bipolar disorder.

The common denominator is that I never ended up meeting with any of them.

I think there are definitely some women online who legitimately have serious conditions, and I
wish them the best. But unfortunately, I think there are many who either do not actually have a diagnosaable medical problem, or significantly exaggerate the scope of a relatively minor issue, as an airtight excuse for just being flakey and unreliable. "Sorry, can't meet with you today, my irritable bowel syndrome is acting up." "Sorry, I'm an Aspie and I got too nervous." And so on. And there's not a thing you can say about it or else you're an insensitive prick.

Self-diagnosing Asperger's when one is essentially just a stuck-up "nerdy" girl in a cardigan and glasses, who is introverted and antisocial because one has never needed to develop social skills due to social networking technology and coasting along on looks alone, is as common as shit these days.

Though one might pose the question whether that is itself a mild form of some disorder itself - I don't know the answer to that. I guess one can medicalize any behavior if one tries hard enough, and some have argued that that's been the goal of the mental health/pharmaceutical industry all along.

The presence of diagnosable Asperger's syndrome among the general population is estimated to be at best about 1 in 1,000, and males outnumber females 4:1, so while they might be overrepresented online, your chances of running into one who has been diagnosed by a medical professional don't seem fantastic. I've talked to a lot of bitchy, rude, introverted, socially inept, and just outright weird girls doing the online thing, but none that particularly struck me as having the characteristics of Asperger's as outlined in the DSM.

Post: #50

Was out with an Aspergers girl when she got drunk a few weeks ago.

She started reciting the names of south american countries and their capitals, various chemical equations, some historical artistic movements, and other random factoids from science, history and geography....which I assume were all accurate.

Such a funny way to get drunk...

Got her back to my place....she had some issues with the lighting arrangement, side of the bed she wanted to be on, and pillow layout in my bedroom, that needed to be sorted before we could bang. Once that was fixed to her satisfaction we really got on with it though....all night long.

I had a real good time regardless.
Excellent lay.