Post: #426

(03-21-2018 07:41 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  If you want to talk the future of white demographics i'd say it's all relevant. Offspring and the future bloodline of descendants is like interest..it compounds over time.

We can go back and forth with this forum jousting but i've pretty much said my piece on this. My final opinion on this issue is that I think at the end of the day you guys are ultimately part of the problem when it comes to your own demographic issues.

There's definitely a double standard rationalized here where white females who ride the cock carousel endlessly without having kids are (rightfully) lambasted but guys who do the same thing without having kids aren't.

It's all bad when you're talking demographics.

Quote:And there's nothing stopping anyone from passing down their values to a mixed kid.

I've seen several posts now where there's been plenty of handwringing about how minorities don't vote the same as whites. If you just go by voting stats i'd say there's a lot of truth in that. I thought it was fairly exaggerated myself when I saw it mentioned in the Donald thread but after looking over it I have to agree that it is an issue in general.

If you have a hapa kid or whatever they obviously won't be regarded as white. I'd say your chances of influencing them over the greater forces of identity politics is about 70/30% (if they are male) in whether they vote democrat or not. If it's a hapa female then i'd say you have about a 5% chance of making sure they are conservative. Never met a single hapa female conservative..ever. I know plenty of hapas and i'd say in real life it's an even split of liberals/conservatives...but i'm just talking about the guys.

Funny enough the ones who have very conservative fathers tend to vote liberal..i'll let you figure why that is on your own. So the odds are not weighed in your favor if you want them have your values.

Anyways that's all i'll post about this topic in this thread. I was actually done with it a few pages ago but I sort of got drama baited back in.

Well, to be fair El Chinito I didn't use your quote because I disagreed with it. I actually agree with a lot of what you wrote and I wrote similar things myself. I used it to point out the hypocrisies of many of the complaints being lobbied by senior members about how the forum has become too political.

For example, Cobra made this statement after liking your post where you were the first one to "infect" identity politics into a game thread:

Quote:"For now, all I pose is the question: Can't we at least keep game threads safe from being infected with identity politics?"

That's hypocrisy, though perhaps Cobra had a change of heart once the subject went from a political conversation involving white guys with minority women (your post that he liked) to a political conversation involving minority men with white women.

After Fortis asked how people can come about to thinking along the lines of what Icarus posted, I made a long post about examples of me going about my everyday life and how I might sometimes subconsiously feel a little threatened when I see interracial couples (who will produce non white kids). StrikeBack then made personal attacks and insinuations about me.

Quote:"It is only human for you to feel these, but that is not tribal. That is the scarcity mentality. When you’re thirsty, you get fearful and feel threatened by those who have more than you do. And yes it is very primal. We humans have a lot of primal tendencies that are not good for us, but through our faith and our minds, we control them and channel them towards a positive outcome for our life.

Tell me if I’m wrong: I can already see that you have a job that you loathe, and your dating life is either nonexistent or really struggling. If you are successful in your personal life, you will see all of these very differently. One needs to be strong and successful to be truly kind and generous. When you’re weak and losing at life, the nasty and petty side of you will come out. And yes, that too is only human. Doesn’t mean it’s an acceptable thing, especially on a site that is very much for self-improvement and neo-masculinity."

My whole point of my long post in response to Fortis's question was that there are some evolutionary and biological factors that go into these feelings of feeling threatened, whether humans like to admit it or not and whether those feelings are right or wrong. StrikeBack then concluded with telling me to meet those biological instincts with kindness and generosity after becoming strong and successful.

Ok. I would like for StrikeBack or anybody else on this forum to tell me whether I should react to this tweet, made one week ago by the founder of this forum and the neo-masculinity movement, and if I should react to that tweet with generosity and kindness?

If it doesn't show up on here, here's the link: https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/974077224503607297

You see, this is the problem. It's becoming increasingly difficult in this day and age to seperate the invididual from the grand scheme of things. Or maybe it's always been this way I don't know.

Post: #427

You sound completely lost if you can’t even tell the difference between them. I wasn’t and I’m not trying to attack you personally. I’m giving it to you real, just like how people would advise each other in the Game section.

Chinese guy in the OP did not steal that Ukrainian woman. He achieved successes in his life on his own, completely ethically and legally. He basically empitomises what we have been preaching to each other here since the beginning. You should react to his success with strength, and in this case, it’s kindness and generosity of spirit. In this forum, we learn from successful people, we are not haters.

Dodgy minorities in Europe, if what Roosh predicted were to come true, stealing and robbing from Europeans would be doing so illegally and unethically. Europeans should react to that with strength also, but in this case, it’s fighting back and taking back what is theirs.

If you believe they are the same, then you truly do have one of the worst cases of the scarcity mentality. Women like that Ukrainian girl would never date you even if no Chinese man like him were ever in their country. In the Game section, we’d advise such serious case of scarcity mentality to do hit the gym, fix up their fashion style and do 100 cold approaches.

Don’t be like one of those PUAHate guys, or MGTOWs. That is no way to live your life.

Post: #428

(03-21-2018 04:47 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  Women like that Ukrainian girl would never date you even if no Chinese man like him were ever in their country...................................snip

Ok man. I'm done. I've said my piece. I kept it cordial.

Post: #429

nevermind

Post: #430

(03-21-2018 01:25 AM)Transsimian Wrote:  On the subject of Chinese men finding wives overseas, I found an interesting article.
https://www.liuxue86.com/a/3460931.html

I'm busy so I'll just translate a brief summary.



Honduras: You can swap your wife at the market once every three months


Kyrgyzstan: It's culturally acceptable to kidnap a girl you like and they have no choice but to accept.

Is this really happening in Honduras and Kyrgyzstan ?

Post: #431

(03-21-2018 07:41 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 09:01 PM)iop890 Wrote:  The reason people(besides 4chan LARPers) dismiss race-mixing as an issue is because the amount of mixing that occurs naturally is statistically irrelevant. If you took every white dude in a mixed married and gave him a white wife instead the change would be minuscule. The issue that matters is immigration.

If you want to talk the future of white demographics i'd say it's all relevant. Offspring and the future bloodline of descendants is like interest..it compounds over time.

It's many orders of magnitude less important than immigration. No, that's understating it actually. If immigration isn't solved, no amount of breeding will save the west, and if immigration is fixed and illegal invaders removed, racemixing would be irrelevant even if you doubled the current levels.

That Ukrainian marrying the Chinese guy ever so slightly effects demographics too but I thought we all mostly agreed it was silly to zoom in to the level of the individual when talking demographics.

Now if you're only criticizing guys that have a problem with the couple in the OP then that's fair, but in your original post you seemed to be addressing guys that talked demographics in general.

(03-21-2018 07:41 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  We can go back and forth with this forum jousting but i've pretty much said my piece on this.

Agreed. We're already to the point of arguing over where the arbitrary line of irrelevancy is. No need to continue it to the point of full autism.

(03-21-2018 07:41 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

Quote:And there's nothing stopping anyone from passing down their values to a mixed kid.

I've seen several posts now where there's been plenty of handwringing about how minorities don't vote the same as whites. If you just go by voting stats i'd say there's a lot of truth in that. I thought it was fairly exaggerated myself when I saw it mentioned in the Donald thread but after looking over it I have to agree that it is an issue in general.

I spent God knows how long beating my head against the wall explaining group differences in voting patterns. How they break down, how it's not an attack on individual forum members because you can't assume anything about an individual based on them, how they're only relevant in matters like immigration where you're dealing with millions of people, etc. But I got nowhere, it still gets brought up today and I have to regularly re-do the damn tall Chinese guy analogy to explain why it wasn't an attack on forum members of any race.

Then I talk about defiling a few lotus blossoms and suddenly it's "Hey iop I looked at the numbers again and you may be right, better remember to pull out when you're banging those Asian girls on account of group voting differences!"

We're reaching levels of chutzpah that shouldn't even be possible.

The group data is mostly irrelevant in regards to any future mixed kiddos I make no matter the race, because I won't be breeding with an amalgam of all Asian girls averaged together(I would but we don't yet have that technology), I'll be breeding with an individual I've chosen. It's like bringing up racial IQ differences when someone is dating an African girl, irrelevant because they're dating an individual.

As for the ballpark percentages you listed based off anecdotes, no offense but thats not worth responding to and I wouldn't know where to start if I did respond. I could list off my own numbers based off anecdotes(I spent enough time in Asian universities to have a pretty big social circle to draw from myself) but that would be a retarded back and forth to get into.

(03-21-2018 07:41 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  Anyways that's all i'll post about this topic in this thread. I was actually done with it a few pages ago but I sort of got drama baited back in.

Fair enough, I think we mostly agree on this stuff anyway. My original post wasn't meant to be all that confrontational, it was about 40% annoyance over your first post* and 60% wanting to type up an Atlanta Man style post but about Asian women.

*The "white guys in Asia are all chasing trash" meme triggers me for obvious reasons. Ironically the guys that push it the hardest are the white guys in Asia that are chasing trash. They'll insist no foreigners are banging upper class girls in whatever country they're in while having zero local social circle and bragging about their deep knowledge of "the bar girl scene". Disgusting creatures.

Post: #432

(03-21-2018 09:06 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 01:25 AM)Transsimian Wrote:  On the subject of Chinese men finding wives overseas, I found an interesting article.
https://www.liuxue86.com/a/3460931.html

I'm busy so I'll just translate a brief summary.



Honduras: You can swap your wife at the market once every three months


Kyrgyzstan: It's culturally acceptable to kidnap a girl you like and they have no choice but to accept.

Is this really happening in Honduras and Kyrgyzstan ?

Can confirm.

Source: This new job I've been mentioning is actually a company I started that kidnaps Kyrgyzstani girls, fixes them up, and flips them for a profit at Honduran markets.

I'm on track to be fully location independent by August. Datasheet is in the works.

EDIT: Don't do a google image search for Kyrgyzstan girls if you're on no-fap. I can feel another AtlantaMan-style post about ricebunnies bubbling up already.

Post: #433

Two things strike me about the opening story depending on how you view it:

One: -IF You Take This Story at Face Value-

Charisma is the big undefinable x ingredient and the development of it can be counter intuitive to a more red pilled utilitarian approach to life.

I say that because whilst the members I have met since joining the forum have been solid good guys, the self advertised forum members I met before joining the forum were - some of them good people - and others of them utter snakes.
Young, well dressed, smooth in some respects, most of their ducks in a row, working in finance or living the digital nomad hedonistic lifestyle. And no one wanted to be around them.

I read the daygame threads and references to Krauser, I read his ebooks and they were interesting because his buddies and wingmen in the books were my old compadres in London. Its interesting reading his take on them because after running around with them for a while I found them to be nothing but oily little snakes. One of the wake up calls for me was when friends of mine met my new PUA wingmen friends and were openly contemptuous of them. Reflecting on that later (much as it pained me to admit it) I couldn't really fault them for showing that contempt.

So, in a world where this story is legit.
This Chinese guy may have bottomed out on his SAT equivalents, there might be all kinds of other factors in play but I think the main thing he had working for him were those intangibles of charisma and character. Things that are harder to define and give advice about maximising on forums like this.

That analysis is balanced by another issue however.
Two: how much do we take stories like this at face value?

To me the media puts a story spin on first with an eye to what they can make out of it and then tailors the details and presentation toward that spin.

A few moments, viral sharing and loads of advertising click bait later the media firms involved walk away leaving us to argue about the facts as if they are indisputable.

Call me a cynic but whats with all the modelling pics of this sweet, shy, retiring 17,18,19 year old girl?
Whats with all these jointly taken professional pics and 'updates' from the couple?

At face value its a sweet story of a simple guy making good with a sweet young lady.
But between the lines.. They strike me as a pair of attention whores desperate for their moment in the spotlight and probably leveraging the inter racial aspect as their USP.
I don't see this guy humbly going back to his import export business and shrugging his shoulders when asked. "Oh yeah I was a social media sensation for five minutes but I didn't do anything with it, that was all in the past the moment it happened and these days I just hang out with my family and live a simple life. I'm not making that much money but hey.."

I don't buy this story. In the age of social media and instagram millionaires this couple seemed aware of the main chance from the get go, they may love each other but I'm willing to bet that they probably loved the idea of fame and the limelight far more. That's what's united them thus far.

What made all the difference to his life was winning at table tennis (?) ...

Not in my view.
What really made the difference was meeting someone as equally ambitious and narcissistic as himself.

Post: #434

Lemme break it down:

I'm a native Chinese speaker and this dude was hot on social media a couple years ago before he had his daughter, because he wrote this long post on his life in Ukraine after high school, mostly dating wise. So it's funny for some of the haters to talk shit about the dude without reading that original post in Chinese.

Admittedly, most Chinese dudes aren't like him and no way can they get a cute white chick. But this dude is a G. I don't like some of the oriental upbringing because it makes Chinese dudes shy away from interactions with cute chicks, especially foreign(white). He talked about how most Chinese classmates he had in Ukrainian university all went back home after school, he was the only one stayed because he could adapt to the culture and he saw the business opportunity with his language skills. Also, He had a couple of girlfriends before his wife (both pretty cute) and imo, he had above average social skills.

Dude is smart too. He has a coal or mine business, making shit ton of money because he knows the local way (the bridge between China and Ukraine). He owns one of the first teslas in Ukraine I think. Nowadays, he has a matchmaking business, hooking up Chinese dudes with Ukrainian chicks, making even more money and building his influence. I think the agency he runs is great and I respect him. Gotta send more Chinese dudes abroad, pass on that high IQ/hardworking gene.

The funny thing is there are way more haters in China, hating on brothers "in the same tribe". HAHA, shit is ridiculous. A lot of asian dudes secretly wanna marry white chicks because they represent high status. But they also be hating since they know they can't get one, and then starting talking shit (making themselves feel better) by saying only the rich Chinese dudes travel to Ukraine to find wife and they are incompetent of finding a wife back home in China. However, the truth is a lot of them have money and they are tired of dealing with materialistic Chinese chicks.

Another thing I wanna point out is sometimes dudes feel good about knowing game and shit. Yeah, it helps. But dudes can still win girls with charm or being kinda "beta". A lot of chinese dudes are like that and it works, not only in China but in poor countries like Ukraine. They might not bang a lot of hotties, but for them, not knowing any game is better than knowing some game and having a totally different outlook on dating due to game exposure.

Post: #435

Well said, HZY. I always suspected that this dude was a bit of a hustler. Setting up a business in EE as a foreigner is tough. I know many cats on this forum who are white who would be shook trying to do what he did.

Post: #436

D_hzy be dropping bombs when he posts. I gotta meet you some day brother. My nigga!

Post: #437

Haha, I try. Different perspectives are important.

@fortis @travelerkai
Where are you guys based in China?

I'm prob gonna move to Shanghai long term soon, currently looking at next year.

Post: #438

(05-03-2018 11:31 PM)d_hzy Wrote:  The funny thing is there are way more haters in China, hating on brothers "in the same tribe". HAHA, shit is ridiculous. A lot of asian dudes secretly wanna marry white chicks because they represent high status. But they also be hating since they know they can't get one, and then starting talking shit (making themselves feel better) by saying only the rich Chinese dudes travel to Ukraine to find wife and they are incompetent of finding a wife back home in China. However, the truth is a lot of them have money and they are tired of dealing with materialistic Chinese chicks.

Sounds like certain groups of Asian dudes in the US as well.

Post: #439

Actually it's not uncommon for Chinese guys to open up very profitable businesses in EE. Most of the ones who make good money do it via some kind of import/export bridge to China. The language barrier is still real and there are other things when dealing with China that only a Chinese man can solve.

So good for him.

Post: #440

Will be in Kiev soon.

I'm a Chinese guy raised in the USA with almost 30 years of Asian tiger parents experience and 6 years gaming experience. Wonder how its gonna be in Ukraine.

Post: #441

(05-19-2018 12:15 AM)Chinoqio Wrote:  Will be in Kiev soon.

I'm a Chinese guy raised in the USA with almost 30 years of Asian tiger parents experience and 6 years gaming experience. Wonder how its gonna be in Ukraine.

I'm a bit older and hapa but I imagine results will be similar. Online I got close to nothing after a month of spamming, irl your chances are much better. Your opener is always, do you speak English? One thing I learned over there was that women are much more spoiled from their options than I imagined.

I also realized after that Asian phenotype seens much better received in Poland (at least online). I can right swipe all day and get 1-2 matches per day in Russia, Ukraine. In Poland it was 6-8/day. This is assuming of course the responders are genuine and not professionals.

Post: #442

(05-19-2018 04:02 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  

(05-19-2018 12:15 AM)Chinoqio Wrote:  Will be in Kiev soon.

I'm a Chinese guy raised in the USA with almost 30 years of Asian tiger parents experience and 6 years gaming experience. Wonder how its gonna be in Ukraine.

I'm a bit older and hapa but I imagine results will be similar. Online I got close to nothing after a month of spamming, irl your chances are much better. Your opener is always, do you speak English? One thing I learned over there was that women are much more spoiled from their options than I imagined.

I also realized after that Asian phenotype seens much better received in Poland (at least online). I can right swipe all day and get 1-2 matches per day in Russia, Ukraine. In Poland it was 6-8/day. This is assuming of course the responders are genuine and not professionals.

Are you asian too bro? Or your friend is the Asian gaming in Poland?

I'm heading over to the EE too this year, hopefully it's gonna be a good one

Post: #443

(05-19-2018 05:16 AM)AceP Wrote:  

(05-19-2018 04:02 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  

(05-19-2018 12:15 AM)Chinoqio Wrote:  Will be in Kiev soon.

I'm a Chinese guy raised in the USA with almost 30 years of Asian tiger parents experience and 6 years gaming experience. Wonder how its gonna be in Ukraine.

I'm a bit older and hapa but I imagine results will be similar. Online I got close to nothing after a month of spamming, irl your chances are much better. Your opener is always, do you speak English? One thing I learned over there was that women are much more spoiled from their options than I imagined.

I also realized after that Asian phenotype seens much better received in Poland (at least online). I can right swipe all day and get 1-2 matches per day in Russia, Ukraine. In Poland it was 6-8/day. This is assuming of course the responders are genuine and not professionals.

Are you asian too bro? Or your friend is the Asian gaming in Poland?

I'm heading over to the EE too this year, hopefully it's gonna be a good one

Half Asian. I'm in Sochi Russia right now, this is my third time in EE. I will probably try Poland next. I only got stuck in Russia because banging this girl out of my league otherwise Russia is an expensive Ukraine that I'm wasting my time in. I am generally not what women want in these countries, appearance wise.

Post: #444

Having a quick look at some of the posts here.

(05-03-2018 11:31 PM)d_hzy Wrote:  Lemme break it down:

I'm a native Chinese speaker and this dude was hot on social media a couple years ago before he had his daughter, because he wrote this long post on his life in Ukraine after high school, mostly dating wise. So it's funny for some of the haters to talk shit about the dude without reading that original post in Chinese.

Admittedly, most Chinese dudes aren't like him and no way can they get a cute white chick. But this dude is a G. I don't like some of the oriental upbringing because it makes Chinese dudes shy away from interactions with cute chicks, especially foreign(white). He talked about how most Chinese classmates he had in Ukrainian university all went back home after school, he was the only one stayed because he could adapt to the culture and he saw the business opportunity with his language skills. Also, He had a couple of girlfriends before his wife (both pretty cute) and imo, he had above average social skills.

Dude is smart too. He has a coal or mine business, making shit ton of money because he knows the local way (the bridge between China and Ukraine). He owns one of the first teslas in Ukraine I think. Nowadays, he has a matchmaking business, hooking up Chinese dudes with Ukrainian chicks, making even more money and building his influence. I think the agency he runs is great and I respect him. Gotta send more Chinese dudes abroad, pass on that high IQ/hardworking gene.

The funny thing is there are way more haters in China, hating on brothers "in the same tribe". HAHA, shit is ridiculous. A lot of asian dudes secretly wanna marry white chicks because they represent high status. But they also be hating since they know they can't get one, and then starting talking shit (making themselves feel better) by saying only the rich Chinese dudes travel to Ukraine to find wife and they are incompetent of finding a wife back home in China. However, the truth is a lot of them have money and they are tired of dealing with materialistic Chinese chicks.

Another thing I wanna point out is sometimes dudes feel good about knowing game and shit. Yeah, it helps. But dudes can still win girls with charm or being kinda "beta". A lot of chinese dudes are like that and it works, not only in China but in poor countries like Ukraine. They might not bang a lot of hotties, but for them, not knowing any game is better than knowing some game and having a totally different outlook on dating due to game exposure.

Chinese men are encouraged to play provider game in their native culture especially where money speaks and academic and educational achievements are held in far higher regard.
That Mei Aicai dude is now cashing in on that with a dating agency.

http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/families/a...ency-ulove

On the other hand if these Chinese dudes were Westernised no doubt they'd eventually find and take in PUA/game media of some kind and start running around Khreschatyk Street chatting up girls.
If they came in large numbers they'd start becoming the next Turkish men 2.0.

(03-21-2018 01:24 AM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  One Chinese dude in Ukraine is an uplifting story about a guy who worked hard, bettered himself, and is living the dream.
One million Chinese dudes in Ukraine is a story about how Ukraine is now a Chinese colony and the Ukrainians are consigned to second-tier status.

Pretty simple.

It sounds an awful lot like the major cities in Australia and Canada.

(05-19-2018 04:02 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  

(05-19-2018 12:15 AM)Chinoqio Wrote:  Will be in Kiev soon.

I'm a Chinese guy raised in the USA with almost 30 years of Asian tiger parents experience and 6 years gaming experience. Wonder how its gonna be in Ukraine.

I'm a bit older and hapa but I imagine results will be similar. Online I got close to nothing after a month of spamming, irl your chances are much better. Your opener is always, do you speak English? One thing I learned over there was that women are much more spoiled from their options than I imagined.

I also realized after that Asian phenotype seens much better received in Poland (at least online). I can right swipe all day and get 1-2 matches per day in Russia, Ukraine. In Poland it was 6-8/day. This is assuming of course the responders are genuine and not professionals.

Online for Poland may seem better but don't rely on it as a sole avenue. What you get back home with the good and bad is amplified.
I found it worthwhile hitting the ground hard and keeping up with the competition which is obvious by now since every man and his dog knows about Poland now.

Post: #445

The points explained in this thread are interesting. Like someone mentioned before, the direction of the forum has definitely shifted over time. Lurking for years, the time when game was the main order of the day was vastly different to what we see here. Not that the current climate is somehow “bad” but its amazing how it went from swooping and finding poosy paradises to the political component it is now. That being said, theres quite a lot to unpack here so let’s get started.

Firstly, the fact that the Chinese man put in the work to be where he is shouldn’t be the least bit surprising. With the right amount research, time, and sweat equity, you’ll get women regardless of race. While women do consider those traits, most of them go out of the window when a man they perceive of higher status steps to them. The degree in which you’re considered upper echelon can vary, but the basics remain the same: gym, money, game = access. Such is the nature of humans.

Secondly, the men who think of ways to steer civilization on a path of preservation are people who ultimately want to help. They see their country and countrymen suffering in the current ethos and they want to do something about it. My question is what should be done about the ringleaders and elites who allow this to happen. In many alt-right circles, you hear cries of “Enoch was right,” and “remove kebab,” but my question to them is how did kebab get here in the first place? If the tribe is sacred and needs to be protected, why did the highest members of the tribe sell the future of his “kin” down the river for power and cold, hard cash?

With the IQ levels on here, I definitely know without a doubt that some of the men on this forum know who the true elephants in the room are, so will keeping out a few barbarians stop the gushing wounds from other areas? Can the real traitors can be taken down, or are they too high up to feel the brunt of their actions?

Lastly, even though the Chinese man started a dating website and there have been several articles heralding his success, how many people do you really think will take action? Knowing what I know of human nature, and what I’ve seen from most in the herd, the average Chinese guy read the articles, maybe visited the site, and went back to his mediocre life. Just because the men on this forum are people of action, can we assume that a large number of Chinese who got “red-pilled” about this guy’s life will do anything to change theirs? Most people are too comfortable in their porn and uninspired existence to make any real change.

Surely, it can be argued that the guy promoting the cross-cultural hookups may be a part of the problem, but the solution isn’t locking him out. The turncoats who promote a sense of unity but will do anything to maximize their own station are the ones who need to answer the hard questions.

Post: #446

Stumbled upon this youtube video:





He is a Japanese student who has been in New Zealand for the past few years. His Kiwi girlfriend is a cute Caucasian 7 or 7.5 if you like dimples and tall girls. She is 6'1 while he is 5'8.

The video is them explaining how they met. She even rejected him after he tried an initial dinner date but they got together eventually. It is interesting as what I can see from the guy is that he does not seem to have a lot of game but has some charm, seems social ( the girl states that he was already talking to lot of people when she moved into the college housing), has Youtube channel and Instagram as social proof, is quite decent looking and hits the gym hard.

As someone mentioned earlier, these above factors, regardless of cultural differences, are universal attributes in attracting girls no matter how different racially and physically the guy and girl are.

They even have an earlier video where they talk about dating problems between short guys and tall girls.





I do not agree with some of the things they say, especially about spooning. Being around this guy's height (I am 5'7), I am currently seeing a 5'11 skinny Ivorian girl who loves spooning. She literally plants her butt on my crouch while watching a whole Netflix movie.

It is at least inspiring and good that guys try to change the dynamics of attraction like this guy or the Ukranian guy. These days, especially in the States, many girls who are 7's, 6s and even 5s are just not only fucking but also having LTRs with guys way above their league without even trying. So when I see a guy put in the work and effort and score something that seems culturally not attainable, I feel proud that at least the world still has few guys who have the balls to do it and are succeeding.

Post: #447

(06-04-2018 05:08 PM)bk19xsa Wrote:  He is a Japanese student who has been in New Zealand for the past few years. His Kiwi girlfriend is a cute Caucasian 7 or 7.5 if you like dimples and tall girls. She is 6'1 while he is 5'8.

Great post. However, if this girl is a 7 in NZ then Kiwi dudes have it waaay worse than I could ever have believed.

Post: #448

(06-04-2018 05:30 PM)Buck Wild Wrote:  

(06-04-2018 05:08 PM)bk19xsa Wrote:  He is a Japanese student who has been in New Zealand for the past few years. His Kiwi girlfriend is a cute Caucasian 7 or 7.5 if you like dimples and tall girls. She is 6'1 while he is 5'8.

Great post. However, if this girl is a 7 in NZ then Kiwi dudes have it waaay worse than I could ever have believed.

That is not a 7 - that is a dorky 6 at best.

Taller women are strangely enough easier - a 6"1 woman has less dating options than a 5"6 one.

Congrats to him for getting that tall poon, but it's not a high-value girl - she looks dorky and innocent with very few sexual partners. So essentially they are a good match.

By the way - he is better looking than her - has a masculine vibe and works out. So even while being quite a lot shorter, he got her over.

Strangely enough I know some tall women who don't mind having a shorter husband since they have been bullied for being so tall. Conversely shorter men want taller kids and sons, so again it's a good match. It's just less common because most women are evolved to desire taller stronger men. Though a guy can balance out that weakness and he seems to have done so.

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The sad thing is she's not even that much below avg here. If you include all the fatties she's probably above average. I WNB but maybe if she made it easy for me. Her face is just.... ugh. But it's shockingly common here.

The dude is definitely better than the girlie I'm not sure what all of you guys are on about. He's following the classic Kiwi tradition of dating down.

However the interesting thing is Kiwi girls don't seem to care as much about "value" in guys in relationships as US/Aussie girls. So it's arguable if you're in the same social circle it's quite possible to date up. Crapshoot though.

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I agree she is a 6. I was initially going to give a 6-6.5 but became generous as I like tall girls.