Post: #5051

Man, does he really even need to be specific, lol. Shit is ubiquitous here.

Post: #5052

Yea but Dimebait, the comment by TopShelf seemed random and out of sync with the context that was flowing. I was also confused as to what he meant.

Post: #5053

Brothers, Gods (WIA, RB & Moma), I need ya'lls input

I would like to develop a checklist or an agenda, if you will of game, techniques that should be ran through on first-time interactions with broads. I think, I've gotten so comfortable with not giving af that I just go with the flow of general convo when I'm interacting with chics.
I got a couple things that I consistently incorporate like palm reading for kino, and qualifying/disqualifying, but I want a checklist that I can remind myself to tick off each and every time.

Post: #5054

This was a PM I wrote for Advent Persona but I figured I should share this since some of you may be interested in visiting china.

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Looking Ghetto In China

So, my idea of a hood nigga:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/vi...G66PhJkUZB

Loud pink shirt, ass hanging out of his shorts and, most importantly, dumb enough to tee off on a girl over some silly shit.

If you come to China, do not dress or act like him. You are shooting yourself in the foot if you come here with that sort of mentality. I don't expect an RVF guy to be that way even if they do come from the hood, but I'm just giving you a heads up.

This is a conservative country. You must remember that. These are girls who grew up with mom and dad and sometimes have massive clans at their back (200+ people in some cases) and aren't so easily fooled by that tough guy image. I think if you try to look too hard in China you screen otherwise bangable girls away from you and into the arms of someone else.

I have observed that the black dudes who come here and struggle the most are the ones who can't let go of how things are back home. Trying to gorilla your way with Chinese women and being too "hard" and mean like you would at night in America is a good way to end up with your dick in your hand at the end of the night (best case scenario) or a big brawl with everyone in China (extinction-level fail).

China is a country built around around conformity. So if you come here expecting the country to cater to your specific style, then you're going to get blown out and have a bad time. You comply or you get sent home.

Referring back to Archie's post with the different styles of clothing some pages back, the first two styles would get an emphatic no from me. Don't show up to China looking like that. You're gonna have a bad time. Also, Moma's cousin look is gonna get you blown out. In general, if you have to choose between loud or soft, always go for something understated in China. Remember, this is a conservative Asian country. They're pretty understated people, especially with strangers.

If you do decide to come here looking mega loud (brightly-coloured suits) you may get mistaken for an African. Now, in another country that's fine, but The Chinese (especially southern Chinese) have a pretty negative view of Africans because of the things that some Africans do in Guangzhou. Africans are known for dealing drugs and being in China illegally. Stereotypes for sure, but many of them come over, get visas and bring their entire family over illegally and deflate the prices on English teachers because they're willing to work for less than Americans, Brits and other groups.

Whether or not you're happy about how Africans are perceived in China is irrelevant. What is relevant is knowing how not to be mistaken for one.

Africans in China tend to dress one of three ways.

1) mega loud suits and gaudy jewelry

That dude rocking the orange suit and shades speaking loudly into his phone on the metro?

Don't be that guy. Everyone is secretly cringing at the fact that he exists. Sure, he may have an IDGAF attitude, but he also has an "I don't fuck chinese girls" look.


2) late 90s, early 2000s hiphop biter

They're painfully easy to spot since no one back home dresses like that anymore. Fitted hats with that golden sticker on the underside of the bill, maybe an oversized polo shirt, sneakers and oversized jeans. It's a weak look for China or anywhere. I think someone on this forum called these guys "frank from new york." They're often painfully unamerican and sorta try hard. if you are a black American I would avoid these guys. They often have a chip on their shoulder and may try and fuck with you.

On the other hand, a lot of em are super cool and down to earth. Befriend them as you see fit, but understand that this style does you no favors.

3)Faux preppy

outdated boat shoes, bright-ass shirts and shorts. Throw in some ashy ankles and you're really going hard. It's another weak style and you shouldn't be rocking it. If you like a style similar to this, I'd just go with that that casual picture that Archie posted.

The cool African bros out here dress in a way that is a bit more cosmopolitan and they get treated better.

Why is this the case? I really don't know. It's just what I observed. Avoid those looks and you should be alright.

If I had to say where I fit on that spectrum that Archie posted, I look casual. Usually rock a short-sleeve henley, dark jeans/Chinos and some onitsuka tigers. I'm not that into fashion and I can't really help you there. I try to play up any physical strengths I may have and girls often say that I look like the sort of guy who plays sports or exercises frequently.

Unfortunately, as a black man, you have a bit of proving to do before you get "accepted" by a chick. She may not want to just meet up with you immediately, even if she is interested. You have to use some finesse. Talk to her on the phone, whatsapp or wechat for a few days. Let her get to know you a bit. Also, in my experience, 2-3 date bangs are more common than ONS. You can ONS Chinese girls (and I have) but it isn't as common for me. Your results may vary but I tend to find that girls are wary about coming to your spot on the first date unless she is really into you or a major sloot.

That said, those 2-3 dates are usually very pleasant. Chinese girls are not ballbusters or massive shit-testers, nor do they expect insanely pricey dates. I once told a girl I wanted to go on a date at this western restaurant and she said, "that's a bit pricey. Let's go someplace else."

It wasn't intended to be a rude remark or an attack on my bankroll, it's simply how the traditional Chinese mind works. We ended up going anyway, but a decent Chinese chick will always have your back in that way.

Dating tips and tricks:

Do not be surprised if she doesn't drink often or very much. Many of them just aren't into it like that.

Dates can be very simple.

A simple dating circuit you can follow:

Day 1: Walk in a local park and get some ice cream, especially if there are any lakes in your area. They seem to enjoy walks in areas with lakes and stuff. I used to live near a huge park with a man-made lake in the center.

Day 2: Meet up for dinner/drinks at restaurant that I like. I keep this date reasonably short. Make sure to go on a walk with her after. Chinese girls MUST go for a walk after dinner. If this restaurant is in your area, walk in a circle that takes you back to your apartment.

Before this point arrived you should have been dropping hints at the cool shit you have in your apartment. I often mention off-hand that I'm downloading a new movie and wanna watch it. This at least gets her mind thinking about your apartment.

Invite her up. Surprisingly, many agree to come up. She may refuse. This isn't the end if she doesn't come up.

Make sure to get her a taxi back to her spot (it'll be like $7 in total, you cheapskate ) and she'll probably hit you up within the next few days.

At that point, I schedule a day 3 at my place where I cook something and smash if I didn't get her on day 2.


The #1 thing I had to learn before being able to pull Chinese girls with consistency was to be patient. America has you trained to strike hard and fast while the iron is hot because the girl will get bored soon. In China, I find that if you push too hard and too fast for that meet up that the girls get spooked and next you. Keep it calm, keep it casual.

Post: #5055

^^^Any Black men you know of killing it out in China?

Post: #5056

Not many American Blacks in Shenzhen, so it's hard to draw a good sample size. I'm not even lying when I say that if I bang a black girl in shenzhen that at least 1-2 of the RVF shenzhen guys probably know her and have met her. I had this happen recently with a notch I pulled. VERY small community here.

For example, I don't really go out all that much since I think night game in china is suboptimal and just rely on plates + online game while I work on making more money and getting in better shape.

Travelerkai is married and has his own life set up.

There are a couple of other black RVF members out here, but they're in LTRs.

I know a few non-rvf black/hispanic guys out here doing it quite big in terms of business and girls, but the pattern is that many of them are in LTRs and have side chicks and things like that since chinese culture turns a blind eye (if you got the money) towards mistresses.

Post: #5057

http://www.rooshv.com/the-white-european...re-is-dead

this is what im talking about.

Sorry to change the pace of the thread. Why are they so scared of change?

Post: #5058

(03-17-2017 09:24 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @Top Shelf

What are you talking about?

WIA

Not the comments in this thread
Yall are doing great things for men everywhere.

Post: #5059

(03-17-2017 01:36 PM)Topshelfhemp Wrote:  http://www.rooshv.com/the-white-european...re-is-dead

this is what im talking about.

Sorry to change the pace of the thread. Why are they so scared of change?

Its not about fear of change its about getting bread out of existence. Seeing your genetic material called "obsolete" has got to be depressing and thats all I took this as.
Thing is people want so bad to be racially different and its really a waste of breath in my opinion. Survival of the species & survival of the organism is all it comes down to in the end. If the human race decides theres better ways to accomplish this it will push towards that end game. Crying about the inevitable is futile and a waste of time.
One thing I found funny was this part:

Quote:Africans are impulsive and beastly. Asians are too smart and too small and weak. You get my general point.

What a wordsmith! Reeks of butt hurt.

Quote:Africans are assertive and physically dominant. Asians are make up for they're lack of physical gifts with high intelligence. You get my general point.

much better

Post: #5060

When you been pushing an inferior product for centuries, disruption has to hurt, lol.

Post: #5061

The African and Asian stereotypes are BS.

I can list several articles showing some of the very top students in different countries being of African descent (UK/Canada etc).

Europeans need to start having babies, then they won't have to worry about extinction.
Most of those countries aren't even at replacement levels.
Sweden which seems to be getting a lot of bad press as of late, had a few negative years - meaning more deaths than babies being born.

Moma and I are trying to help young cats (black,white,asian,latino,alien etc) navigate the tough social market in the West.

We aren't here to talk politics or religion.

All those guys on the migrant thread complaining, what are they doing about the problem?

Post: #5062

@Dime

That's a book, haha.

Give us you version of the Christmas tree and we'll hang the ornaments

WIA

Post: #5063

(03-17-2017 02:09 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @Dime

That's a book, haha.

Give us you version of the Christmas tree and we'll hang the ornaments

WIA

True, true. Check out the following for me:

Give a fleeting Compliment on some feature w/i her control, I.e, shirt, shoes etc.

CF line: You're lucky I could fit you into my schedule today

*requisite small talk*

Tell me what your expectations of a man are (this is a setup for followup question)

With those exhaustive expectations, tell me what do you have to offer a successful man like myself

Tell me something fascinating/interesting about yourself

Disqualification based on interest (We would never work out, you're way to basic/complicated)

Tell me something bad your ex would say about you

Would you consider yourself a good lover?

Some sort of kino

Blah blah blah.

Anything to add/subtract?

Post: #5064

(03-17-2017 01:36 PM)Topshelfhemp Wrote:  http://www.rooshv.com/the-white-european...re-is-dead

this is what im talking about.

Sorry to change the pace of the thread. Why are they so scared of change?

BIG babies.. I am around white Europeans all day everyday.. They are not being bred out of existence here anytime soon. German culture is strong as fuck and that shit wont be changing anytime soon either. The past year had the highest birthrate in my city in the past 20 years. Most German girls I meet want kids too.

You are forced here to integrate and lord help you if you don't. YOU. WILL. SUFFER.

I even suffer a bit because I don't allow myself to be "assimilated by the BORG".

Post: #5065

I had made a comment regarding what topshelfhemp is alluding to in a thread about Africa in the everything else section. When your so accustom to the worlds history being told from your position and lense you feel threatened by anyone's desire to have their own cultural base. Anyone who's done a non euro biased study of African civilization and the diaspora know how important we are to the fabric of the world. And how panicked historians were to have so much innovation in such a resource rich land.

You see guys telling their revisionist history about how we're brutes and have no intellectual capacity all the time on this site. If any of these so called "but I'm not racist- I like the NBA" headassed commenters had to endure the experience of a black person in a corporate environment or a school environment in which your cultural perspectives were non priority they wouldn't know what they do to themselves. Environments where people ask to touch your hair like your a zebra and compare their spring break tans to your skin like that's some kind of icebreaker to smile about. As the tensions heat up there's going to be more of this in the manosphere.

Just watch the everything else section and the politics section weekly and you'll see what I mean. They're panicking and I love it.

Post: #5066

Truth.

IMO, there is a rebuttable presumption that ALL YT folks are racist. Not some, but ALL. In fact, the phrase Not all YT Folks are racist, is in fact, an apposite statement in and of itself.
This understanding has helped me focus on myself and the betterment of my community as a whole

Post: #5067

im surprised this thread hasn't magically vanished to be honest.

Post: #5068

We spit too much game.

On a different note, two chicks I know are in Dubai right now.

Wonder if any Mercedes Benz s are going to magically show up in their time line.

WIA

Post: #5069

Had some chick text me yesterday, I was suppose to meet her for a coffee this afternoon.

My friend use to "date" her a few years back, since then she has a habit of dating FOBs or low life characters. These jokers use her for money, rent, food and the usual stuff.

Latest FOB has left the coop, now she is crying to me. Dude didn't even take her on a date or buy her a Xmas present. I don't play that role, not sure why she is texting me. Face isn't anything to write home about, but she has some tits I wouldn't mind seeing in the flesh. The meet-up won't cost me anything except gas money, I will get her to buy coffee for my time.

Time to implement Vin's Wounded Animal game.

Need a break from Sniper game and it is too damn cold to be rolling to the clubs.

DB - man that is too many questions for me.

I just let them talk, then I mention I was mountain climbing in the Himalaya's last month (man of adventure that loves to travel).
They talk some more, I smile and nod my head.
Then they will say something "you don't say much" or "tell me more about yourself".
Then they will talk some more about their job, girlfriend or ex boyfriend that owned a Yacht but she left him. Yeah right.
I usually don't push for sex on the first date, if I get the invite upstairs to their place then game on.

Post: #5070

(03-17-2017 04:17 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  We spit too much game.

On a different note, two chicks I know are in Dubai right now.

Wonder if any Mercedes Benz s are going to magically show up in their time line.

WIA

They going to get shitted on?

Post: #5071

(03-17-2017 04:17 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  We spit too much game.

On a different note, two chicks I know are in Dubai right now.

Wonder if any Mercedes Benz s are going to magically show up in their time line.

WIA

Booboo on boo's lips.

Post: #5072

(03-17-2017 04:49 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  DB - man that is too many questions for me.

I just let them talk, then I mention I was mountain climbing in the Himalaya's last month (man of adventure that loves to travel).
They talk some more, I smile and nod my head.
Then they will say something "you don't say much" or "tell me more about yourself".
Then they will talk some more about their job, girlfriend or ex boyfriend that owned a Yacht but she left him. Yeah right.
I usually don't push for sex on the first date, if I get the invite upstairs to their place then game on.

Thanks for the insight. I'm not firing off these questions in rapid fire format, but throughout the course of our interaction to get her to do most of the talking.

For instance, when you denote your "man of adventure" characteristic, is this something that you're doing during every exchange? If so, are there any other "game" data points you're weaving into the convo.

I'm not really looking for verbatim game, just some common ingredients you guys have found successful enough to make them a necessary parts of the exchange.

Post: #5073

@rudebwoy @dimebait I'm the same way. The girl does most of the talking... and I ask open ended questions, why? how? go into depth about why she does what she does and who she is.... and make her qualify herself to you..... escalate the conversation either through 20 questions or some other form... light touching, she feels comfortable with you.... usually midway, in my car, before we go to the second venue I pull them in for a kiss. Proceed from there....

Post: #5074

(03-17-2017 04:04 PM)Topshelfhemp Wrote:  im surprised this thread hasn't magically vanished to be honest.

I smell a melt down cooking with a side of ban hammer...

Post: #5075

(03-17-2017 02:37 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  True, true. Check out the following for me:

Give a fleeting Compliment on some feature w/i her control, I.e, shirt, shoes etc.

CF line: You're lucky I could fit you into my schedule today

*requisite small talk*

Tell me what your expectations of a man are (this is a setup for followup question)

With those exhaustive expectations, tell me what do you have to offer a successful man like myself

Tell me something fascinating/interesting about yourself

Disqualification based on interest (We would never work out, you're way to basic/complicated)

Tell me something bad your ex would say about you

Would you consider yourself a good lover?

Some sort of kino

Blah blah blah.

Anything to add/subtract?

DB out here running interrogation game on bitches haha

My typical pick up if its a bar scenario. Only put my part of the conversations:

Whats your name?

Where are you from?

Where are you really from?

Hah yea everyone says they're from austin but they're not.

Oh I'm from here. So you know there are reasons to hang out with me since I'm a native --hand or arm on shoulder

**now the teasing and kino escalation kick in**

Make fun of her name--is it old sounding? Margret, Gloria, etc

Make fun of her having no friends--is she here with multiple people

Make fun of her clothes--Is she dressed cold when its hot as fuck, is she in all black like she's about to rob a bank

ETC.

--this is where my expemental shit comes in as of recent--

--sexually charged complements--

You're eyes are intense
I like the way your shirt fits you
**grab her hand, observe it, make winning eye contact** you're very soft
**Smell her head** damn you smell nice
{tall lady killer moves} Know what I like the most about you? [x,y,z] and your tall its like christmas
When talking in her ear smell her make sure she notices the semi-awkwardness of you smelling her--tell her she smells nice

Kino should be at the point that its become heavy petting

Lets Dance, lets get a drink, etc & don't fuck up game

Attempt to bounce--Im stuck here right now. Cant get to the lays but more often they will give me their number and ask me to call them, the conversion here to dates has been nil so far as all the girls I've gotten here will all had BF's (I confirmed this thru a quick Facebook stalk).

Im tempted to start asking girls if they have boyfriends because this shit is getting ridiculous.