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(03-14-2017 04:54 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 04:33 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Well this is why part of my 2017 Game goals is to expand to Day Game starting June 1st.

I have never used it and I don't think its going to work....

These 8+ in Germany will have walls where ever they go but hey let see... I think the wall might be more penetrable during the day than night but I think the same "its nice meeting you" blowout will come none the less.. but i can't knock something I haven't tried yet. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Its why I am fighting on Tinder.

I'm glad you caught this. I once won a basketball everyone for themselves scrimmage with a left handed hook shot from the three point line (some Guyanese guy was D'ing me up like I stole his wife). I hadn't used it and I didn't think it was going to work.

I feel your pain, bruv but if you want it (those 8s and above for your LTR), you will get it.

Thanks man... I'm not gonna give up on this. I'd rather stay single than settle.

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My comment about the baller/club owner was more tongue in cheek.

My boys and I love trolling the girls that hang out in the VIP, this has led to a few altercations in the past.

KD - is it any real surprise that the local guys are doing better than you with hotter gals. They have the home field advantage and you are the "foreigner".

The good news is that you are approaching and getting your feet wet, not relying on Tinder or online dating.

I asked my boy who does very well with decent looking German girls outside of Germany, to describe them in one word. His reply - Manly.

I would agree with Apollo, target EE girls or Russian girls living in Germany or better yet target those countries.

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(03-14-2017 05:44 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  My comment about the baller/club owner was more tongue in cheek.

My boys and I love trolling the girls that hang out in the VIP, this has led to a few altercations in the past.

KD - is it any real surprise that the local guys are doing better than you with hotter gals. They have the home field advantage and you are the "foreigner".

The good news is that you are approaching and getting your feet wet, not relying on Tinder or online dating.

I asked my boy who does very well with decent looking German girls outside of Germany, to describe them in one word. His reply - Manly.

I would agree with Apollo, target EE girls or Russian girls living in Germany or better yet target those countries.

Depends on the girl... one of my plates is girly but emotionally acts very manly and the other plate is like a blonde bimbo, clingy and everything.

German girls inside and outside of Germany are two different animals altogether. I actually learned this the hard way. Honestly was very disappointed/surprised after realizing this after living here the first few months.

I guess I am not surprised about the local guys outdoing me anyway... you are right on that point.

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^Yeah I would say most girls are different at home compared to being away from home.

Keep trucking, you have the drive to make it work.

Just because the German guys get the girl, doesn't mean they can keep them.

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(03-14-2017 05:57 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ^Yeah I would say most girls are different at home compared to being away from home.

Keep trucking, you have the drive to make it work.

Just because the German guys get the girl, doesn't mean they can keep them.

We discussed your situation on our last show.

Good to hear my situation is noteworthy. I am in the trenches grinding out here.

I still hope one of you passing through or living in Germany come visit at some point but after my posts about life here I can understand why none of you don't haha.

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(03-14-2017 03:07 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  
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(03-14-2017 01:31 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  My take on KD's issue is that he can only get so far with the upper echelon chicks because he's hitting them with straight ahead game in the short term.

I think more than finding commonalities - he basically needs to increase his social status in the scene. But I've already laid that out. And he's dabbling in promoter game.

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Could it be the upper tier gals want the ballers/club owners, not the promoter handing out flyers?

We've touched on this before.

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This girl can get a guy with money, muscles, height, cool, looks...

What is she after?
- minute to minute
- not-so-immediate

In the deep background, she wants husband, children, a good life.
She's pretty enough to DEMAND that now from any top level guy.
^ This is the provider strategy.


Minute to Minute - she wants full mental engagement. Love, hate, fun, disgust, food, lights, music...
^This is the one-on-one game. This is interrupting her, cutting her off, making her feel odd, the roller coaster, pushing her away, pushing her towards you. That's the game we usually talk about. The interplay of personalities and playing on her second-to-second psychology.

Assuming cultural and language familiarity - what is the chick after in the not-so-immediate.

She wants drama right now.
She wants kids in the future.

But what sort of image does she have for herself?
Where does she want to be seen?

When a girl this fine goes to the club, she can get drugs, drinks, and dick.

But in my experience - these chicks always want something slightly beyond their reach.

She wants to slay.

So if she's the prettiest chick in her area, at her club,and gets everything - there's a bigger pond for her to swim in and get to the top of.

That's basically where I think the game has to go. You need to be not just at her club, but above her within her peer group, or in a better peer group.

Me, I might know all the dj's in town. So some random chick that's not in the scene, a chick that's in gen pop, sees me schmooze with all these "high status" people - and that draws her attention to me. I'm more attractive to her, because she sees herself on a higher plateau than "all these other basic bitches".

The girl IN THE SCENE, i'm just her peer. She knows all the same people. At least we can talk, at least we can be at the same afterparty. She can get to know me and like me - like a typical social circle. Within the circle, I might not be the top dog. She might just tolerate me, and not really check for me.

But what if I not only know the local dj's, I bring Migos to the city. I'm in Jay Z's entourage. When Rihanna comes to town, I'm in that posse?

I look the same - but she wants to climb. She wants to be friend with those sorts of people. She wants to raise her own stature in this fantasy social order that she believes in, that a lot of people believe in.

Ask yourself this question.

If you find yourself at a club would you rather be
- a poor male model
- a rich regular guy
- a local celebrity

For a high end girl, she can get pretty boys and rich guys - but social currency is much more attractive to her.

KD seems to be the position where he could stack ends, he could look better - but these 8+ German chicks wouldn't be throwing themselves at him.

Now if he was rolling with higher status GUYS, and chicks - suddenly these hot bitches from backwoods Germany would value him more. He's not just another smooth brother out there, but he's someone that she needs to know.

A regular chick just needs game.
A chick that's operating within a social hierarchy - like you see in the night life - she needs more than just the one-on-one game.

Lot of the hottest chicks in your city - you'll never see - because you aren't in VIP, you don't know about the pre-party and after-party, you aren't in those circles. That level of bitch isn't really going to clubs.

And if you do encounter that "objective" level of beauty - chances are high that she's attracted to the social and the physical and behavioral.

The advantage the promoter has against good looking guy at the club - is that he's harnessing the social mind of hot chicks.

It's not enough that she's hot and can get stuff- she wants to be seen - by other top level bitches - and wants to slay them.

You guys can search for bodybuilder/billionaire wives and basically confirm what I'm saying. But famous guys - guys that work on the social aspect of the game - they an order of magnitude better.

For the purposes of pulling chicks, I'd rather be Vitaly or some Youtube "Star" than some nameless Facebook millionaire.

Epic post.

Taking it one step further, this explains why "new guy game" is so effective.

For me...I'm not high on the social ranks in my home base. I don't go out enough, I don't fit in well, and I've been here long enough to be accepted into my caste.

Traveling however, you can do whatever you want. There's no way you can know anyone at the bar, so it makes sense that you're alone. You don't have any great connections because you're new there. It actually makes you ballsy for going out alone, looking for the action.

Because there's no data for these girls to peek into, they have to extrapolate your rank from small observations. If you say whattup to the DJ, bartender, everybody else, she picks up that you're a social butterfly. When you say "oh my friend the DJ back home..." you paint a picture in her mind. She has no idea what you're like at home. You could live on a farm for all she knows, but if you sell the dream well enough, you could be damn Dan Bilzerian.

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T-S-MothaFuckin-A!!!!!! lol

Just saw get out. Holy shit way better than logan.

Seeing that white girl naked on girls is one of my guilty pleasures.

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What was with the cotton on the chair?
Didn't quite get what he realized at that moment

edit: never mind got it.
Was also interesting how it gave white audiences the black experience. People at the draft house were saying "no!" when her called the police to report where he was.

Movie was actually a work of art.

Told so much about the black experience, I was having a completely different movie experience than the white people there. A lot of the shit the characters were doing alluded to them "checking out the merchandise" of the black guy, but is actually stuff white people, specifically old white people do.
I found my self laughing at a lot of the shit like the muscle grab and tiger woods shit. The part where he goes for a dap and the black dude tries to shake his hand I felt was missed by a lot of white people at the theater, shit had me on high alert right away especially after the "epilepsy" scene.

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Lol, man that movie was everything! I wonder how brothers will think twice about visiting Becky's parents after seeing this movie.

There's several analysises of hidden meanings in the film floating around. The cotton symbolization is one of them.
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(03-15-2017 01:53 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  Lol, man that movie was everything! I wonder how brothers will think twice about visiting Becky's parents after seeing this movie.

There's several analysises of hidden meanings in the film floating around. The cotton symbolization is one of them.


"flash photography" is a low key one

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(03-15-2017 02:27 AM)Mufasa Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 01:53 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  Lol, man that movie was everything! I wonder how brothers will think twice about visiting Becky's parents after seeing this movie.

There's several analysises of hidden meanings in the film floating around. The cotton symbolization is one of them.


"flash photography" is a low key one

I didn't pick up on that one. What was the significance?
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(03-15-2017 11:23 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 02:27 AM)Mufasa Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 01:53 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  Lol, man that movie was everything! I wonder how brothers will think twice about visiting Becky's parents after seeing this movie.

There's several analysises of hidden meanings in the film floating around. The cotton symbolization is one of them.


"flash photography" is a low key one

I didn't pick up on that one. What was the significance?


How it takes photography/video to bring "light" to black peoples plight

Rodney king
Civil rights Sit-ins
All the social media capturing cops abuse (Alton Sterling, Oscar Grant, Michael Brown, Eric Garner)

One I just thought of now is how the bottom zone or whatever it was called looked like they were "drowning". So many levels to this movie. Maybe the best most well thought out movie I've ever seen.

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Damn I didn't catch the flashlight reference

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Just heard Peele made history for a director's debut

Made on a $4 mil budget

Has brought in $100mil so far

Ya'll talked me into it...will report back

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(03-15-2017 01:06 PM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  Just heard Peele made history for a director's debut

Made on a $4 mil budget

Has brought in $100mil so far

Ya'll talked me into it...will report back

Try to keep up with the imagery and triple meanings of the movie theres a non-stop sensory overload of them down to the very words in the script. Took him 5 years to write it for a reason

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I will likely go see it again to catch up on some of the things I missed.
Black secretary at my job says, Peele's YT wife excludes him from speaking out on the wicked ways of YT folk. Lol, she's adamant af too.
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Some black women (and men) can be very judgmental about who can speak to the black experience. Sam Jackson mad that a British dude with Ugandan heritage played the lead.

Sometimes your ally is sticking the knife in your back.

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On a side note. I've been killing it with SnapChat lately. I know that shit is for kids, but the feeding frenzy is real when you give these bishes a taste of what they missing out on.

For instance, I've been snapping my baller lifestyle (as portrayed), fun shit I do, me in high power meetings at work, and random vids of me living it up with other chics etc.
Most bishes will have their SC handle on their IG or even in dating profiles, I'll add them and they follow back. Some of the same broads who ignored my message on dating sites or went radio silent on me are now all up in my DMs. Goes to show just how fickle bishes can be.

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(03-14-2017 05:16 PM)Chowder Head Wrote:  WIA is so right about youtube game. I watch a youtuber who is a average looking 45 yr old, low stakes Vegas poker player, that dresses like a child. He lived in an apartment with no furniture (just an air mattress, computer, and a desk). For the 2 years I've watched his vlog, he NEVER got laid. But within the last year, his channel has gained over 20K new subscribers. As soon as he gets some popularity, here comes the former fitness model turned real estate agent with fake tits and beach blonde hair. Now he's dating her and getting loads of gifts in the mail from his loyal followers. The power of fame, even D-list youtube fame, is very powerful. All he does is walk around Vegas getting shots of the strip and shows some random poker hands.

In my mind this reinforces the old addage that if you chase pussy you lose out on money, but if you chase money/ mission you never lose out on pussy. For him it's still a come up.

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(03-15-2017 02:11 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  On a side note. I've been killing it with SnapChat lately. I know that shit is for kids, but the feeding frenzy is real when you give these bishes a taste of what they missing out on.

For instance, I've been snapping my baller lifestyle (as portrayed), fun shit I do, me in high power meetings at work, and random vids of me living it up with other chics etc.
Most bishes will have their SC handle on their IG or even in dating profiles, I'll add them and they follow back. Some of the same broads who ignored my message on dating sites or went radio silent on me are now all up in my DMs. Goes to show just how fickle bishes can be.

Carry on

Not a side note. My friend kills it on snapchat and does total savage shit. He'll have him self mackin down chicks and girls jumping in his videos to kiss him on the cheek and he'll have mad tinder honeys and dead leads hitting him up saying "OMG you're so reckless(becky voice)." One of them told us to come meet her and her friends at a bar last saturday.

Shit works
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gunna have to step my snapchat game up

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I've been using IG story almost daily.

I add every bish to IG anyway, so they think they're following me for pics, but really they get tons of stories. 1 less platform = more efficiency.

It seems not many regular people do stories often unless you're a rapper or athlete. So putting myself on the story puts me right in their face next to other high social value people.

It's great for keeping chicks cooking...I can post the randomest shit and tons of old leads will see it and think about me.

I post random pics of stuff that isn't post worthy. My lunch was extra gourmet today so I did that. Boom now girls I haven't talked to in months are checking me out.

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Gerasimov doctrine in full effect!

Gotta push back on the money/mission over bitches.

At the job, plenty of these dudes chose money over bitches, delayed their gratification, and now they have neither the money nor the bitches.

It's like the chick getting more degrees and debt, focusing on her career, when she should be in the gym doing deep squats.

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(03-15-2017 03:51 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  It's like the chick getting more degrees and debt, focusing on her career, when she should be in the gym doing deep squats.

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Trooth!

I cannot tell you how many broads I run across who think just because they're degree'd up, they somehow deserve to date in the top 20% of the dating pool.
Ironically, I've rarely seen men who are high achievers who have let themselves go physically. The same cannot be said about women, especially Black women.
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(03-15-2017 03:51 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Gerasimov doctrine in full effect!

Gotta push back on the money/mission over bitches.

At the job, plenty of these dudes chose money over bitches, delayed their gratification, and now they have neither the money nor the bitches.

It's like the chick getting more degrees and debt, focusing on her career, when she should be in the gym doing deep squats.

WIA

So what is the answer? Attention to balance, right? Too much lifting and no cardio vs too much cardio and no lifting. Strike that balance, eh?

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RE: Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options
(03-15-2017 05:16 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:51 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Gerasimov doctrine in full effect!

Gotta push back on the money/mission over bitches.

At the job, plenty of these dudes chose money over bitches, delayed their gratification, and now they have neither the money nor the bitches.

It's like the chick getting more degrees and debt, focusing on her career, when she should be in the gym doing deep squats.

WIA

So what is the answer? Attention to balance, right? Too much lifting and no cardio vs too much cardio and no lifting. Strike that balance, eh?

Everything in life has opportunity costs.
Most men don't realize what they're giving up as they try to get more education, deeper into their careers, and launch businesses, etc.

At my job, every dude basically put his all into the work for YEARS if not DECADES - and don't have jack to show for it.

Some savings?
A nice 401k?
Paid down some debt?
Good credit rating?
The newest gadget?

What they don't have are the memories of having a girl take you back to her place and finding out she lives with strippers.

Did they go to Rio during Carnival?
Blow their savings on a crazy idea?

They played it safe and lost, lost big.

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Yea but Archie, you have some guys that chased poosy all their life and then they grow old and cannot sustain their family. They never had a career or worked towards anything, their money made or any ventures was with an almost single minded focus towards chopping down pum. They have built up nothing and can only try and live under the wing of a lizard and have her sponsor him with her funds. Call me old fashioned but there is something about me where I don't like having a lizard having a majority of the stakes in my capital present and future.

I know some guys that were proper don dada's now and you look at them and they are a shadow of their poonie hound days. You can't have the same vigour to chase poonarni down like you did when you were 21. Mike Tyson even said it best in his lastest autobiography..even if you pop Viagra..you can be 55 and mashing out lizard won't be the same as it was when you were 20..even if your wood is harder than Logan in a bar brawl.

Balance is important..I don't think a heavy lean in either direction is beneficial.

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