(12-23-2018 09:55 AM)Investment Bro Wrote:  

(12-23-2018 09:03 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 05:33 PM)Black Caesar Wrote:  Think outside the box guys.

You know how much some of these girls are making on Insta posts?

Once you harness that a bit you can make it ik for you easy.

I mean you think they post all that for fun?

What do you mean by harness it? Are you talking about IG pimping?

I'm dating a girl right now with 75k followers.

She's a high end 7 in my opinion. One of the best looking girls I've gotten more than a ONS with. She was getting paid around 1.5k a month to promote all of these different products, as well as another 500-1k a month to model for photoshoots before we met.

Mind you, she doesn't try that hard or put in that much effort. Around three posts per week, and a few stories. Some of her friends are legitimate smokeshows that are solidly in the 8 category. They make more than I do just from IG, and I don't make peanuts.

To your point though, I use this girl to drive traffic to my Amazon listings when I'm launching new products (data sheet in progress right now). I also use her to help promote my own affiliate programs and I kick her back a percentage. If she did more of this type of thing (she doesn't want to), she could easily be making a full time living as well.

So yes, IG pimping. I tip my hat to you sir.

Yeah now do the same but send some of the ads her way and take your cut

Look now you’re a “manager” and due 20%

Kirdiesel, have you ever considered the possibility that maybe, maybe black men simply do not have an overly high market value in Germany? And there is black and back, Usain Bolt black, and chubby Kanye West sneering/Eddy Murphy pencil moustache black. The latter wouldn't work here. Especially not without any social proof.

Or, maybe its not black men in general, its you? Maybe the vibes you are sending (preferring U.S. junk food chains over local cuisine and all, refer to your data sheet thread) alienate the girls so much, that they simply don't bite.

(12-06-2018 06:12 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 04:24 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 01:45 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

(11-30-2018 08:29 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  1) Why was it brutal? Philko said the same thing.
2) What was wrong with the black women?

TDK

It was brutal because I was one was the unfortunate brothers when I was young that had no game and always branded nerd, this that and the other. Black women always hated on me so I excluded them as option for many years. I had no choice but to either date White or Latina.

I did not have any connection or too much interest in the Latin community either at the time but always liked white women and had success with them and therefore went with that. Which in turn led me to Europe where I am today.

(11-30-2018 03:44 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(11-30-2018 07:37 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  For me personally I hate NYC for game. I feel like the girls there are all looking for a come up or are assessing how much bread you have. But again when I lived there I was only focused on white girls (always had a problem with black women) so it was brutal.

For the type of girls I want or like Europe is better than NYC and thus I’m still here.

I respect it!

How's Brunhilde treating you over there lately?

Every girl i've met stateside from Deutschland has been kinda hot.

WIA

Brunhilde is very hospitable as long as shes a 7 or less in the SMV level.

If you talk to Svenja who is an 8 or 9 within Germany she will be disgusted that a black man has a sexual interest her. Unless she outside Germany where she will not be judged by her peers and then the black man is welcome.

Germany in a nutshell folks.

In other news,

I expanded my business to an new platform after things were declining for the past couple of months and it seems to be the breath of fresh air it needed! I been depressed about it for a while but things seem to be looking up. I just gotta keep my head down and grind.

I also havent been gaming much at all and deleted my Tinder account. Ive planned a SMV revamp and if business will do what I think it can I will invest the money in fixing somethings about myself that I think have been holding me back from getting the women I want.

I feel like ive maxed out my game level and it cant carry me any further without improving my physical appearance more. I think physically I am good enough for the girls in the Netherlands but I cant cut the mustard in Germany.

7 or so is as good as I can do here and I want those 8s like tomorrow. Really think its a matter of looks now rather than a lack of game.

Kuckdiesel shut up spreading these damn lies. These chicks are probably disgusted that you are talking to them, don't extrapolate that to the rest of us.. When I was in Germany I saw fly bitches with fly brothers all the time. Noticed I said Fly. Short, ugly out of shape and no real game/charisma having black dudes where with below 7s. And that's the way the world should be.

A lot of you guys use your own shortcomings and attribute it to being black, it's far from that case. Lots of you guys need to do some self-reflecting and realize you probably don't have any game. Fucking a 6 off tinder first night isn't game. Fucking an 8 off tinder first night (you can say that's game). Smashing some chocolate hunter from the club who let every army brother from California to Miami smash isn't game. I'm genuinely confused on how you've gotten away for so long without someone calling you out on your shit.

My general rule of thumb, sorry who get's butt hurt reading this, is that you can't have no game in the U.S. (or your respective country) and travel to another country, expecting us to believe you suddenly have game or whatever. Look at the Colombian thread. "I smashed 10 8s in one week, now i'm back in U.S and can't pull a 4" GTFOH



-CD

You have absolutely NO IDEA what you are talking about.

How much time have you spent in GERMANY in the first place? Its pretty much two minutes to my 8 YEARS HERE.

Lets break this down piece by piece.

I am not short or ugly by any means and one of the vetted guys on the forum has met me and SEEN me game and hookup with girls IN PERSON. I''m 5,10 185lbs (average height in Germany) or so and have been called swole in some circles.

Second thing: Your experience is limited to BERLIN which isnt Germany and EVEN GERMAN locals say Berlin isnt GERMANY. Its not even my opinion! This is fact. Once again your entire view is blurred by the most liberal city in the goddamn country. Berlin is game in Germany on easy or lets say easier. You got a city full of constant tourists too cmon man.

Come to NORTH RHEIN WESTFALEN... Düsseldorf, Cologne and Bonn.. REAL GERMANY and bang some 8s and come talk trash. In fact, fly over here and come shut me up. Your black ass probably wont even be let inside the club where all those 8s go.

You guys here are acting like I said black men cant get laid in Germany. You can will get laid....I do and Napoleon does too. But its average basic chicks.....what im saying is those 8s and up WILL NOT TOUCH YOUR BLACK ASS. They belong to the native German dudes and thats the end of that. I wish Napoleon would chime in and shut you ignorant selves in here up.

I can't believe this ignoramus wants to test me on German women when the most notches I have in my life are German women and ive been living here for eons and he simply visited.

Another brother even texted me at one point and said he was in Germany and thought his Tinder was broken.

You even got German guys throwing salt. I am somewhat friends with ONE higher level girl out here and when I roll with her she says German guys talk shit and make faces. Of course not to my face or within earshot of me or else there would be problems.

You can go to the shopping center in Cologne which is one the busiest shopping streets IN ALL OF GERMANY and try to find a black guy with an ABOVE AVERAGE girl. Good luck! Most likely hes gonna be with a 6 or maximum 7 if hes decent. Black men only get above average girls here under certain circumstances:

1. Shes super young. Like 19 years old.. Then MAYBE.. just MAYBE youll have a chance at the 8s

2. Shes a KIM KARDASHIAN WANNA BE BBC lover.

3. Shes spent a considerable amount of time outside of Germany and as a result she isnt so brainwashed like the other women, which is very hard to resist but German people try VERY HARD to influence you to fall into their norms. (This is like finding a goddamn needle in a haystack because the influence is so strong)

4. A Non German in Germany. Tourist or other immigrant girls (Not many where I AM)

In the main clubbing area in Cologne (The ring) you can BARELY find any black men in the clubs here with the exception of MAYBE two. Why do you think theres not many black guys in the clubs? There aren't black guys in the city? Think again. They aren't allowed in the spots and if they do get in the girls aren't giving them love like that either so they stick to their own spots where THE BBC LOVERS GO.

Let me drop this final tidbit of information to sum it up for you people that have trouble understanding... and super detailed information on this will be dropped in a massive sheet if/when I decide to leave the country.

8 or better Blonde, Blue eyed Svenja who works in Marketing at Porsche HQ Stuttgart (insert any decent German company here) is NOT FUCKING WITH US like that.

Jörg, Jürgen and Klaas and OWN those fucking women and thats the end of the story.

(11-15-2017 11:02 AM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  http://time.com/4978727/bromance-male-fr...w_facebook

Thoughts? I think it’s good - get that emotional fulfillment fix from the bros, pump and dump the millenial hoes.

Been away from the forums for too long!!!

This topic caught my eye. I agree with the part about men having close friendships with other men. I think this is vital. I will pass on cuddling with another dude.

I believe there are certain topics, advice, and support you can only get from other guys.

This idea about men having close friendships with other men is nothing new. Throughout most of human history, guys hung out with mostly guys. The problem is when a guy or guys only hangs out with guys. From my experience, we need both male friendships and intimate relationships with women. That has to be a balance.

(12-23-2018 09:55 AM)Investment Bro Wrote:  

(12-23-2018 09:03 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 05:33 PM)Black Caesar Wrote:  Think outside the box guys.

You know how much some of these girls are making on Insta posts?

Once you harness that a bit you can make it ik for you easy.

I mean you think they post all that for fun?

What do you mean by harness it? Are you talking about IG pimping?

I'm dating a girl right now with 75k followers.

She's a high end 7 in my opinion. One of the best looking girls I've gotten more than a ONS with. She was getting paid around 1.5k a month to promote all of these different products, as well as another 500-1k a month to model for photoshoots before we met.

Mind you, she doesn't try that hard or put in that much effort. Around three posts per week, and a few stories. Some of her friends are legitimate smokeshows that are solidly in the 8 category. They make more than I do just from IG, and I don't make peanuts.

To your point though, I use this girl to drive traffic to my Amazon listings when I'm launching new products (data sheet in progress right now). I also use her to help promote my own affiliate programs and I kick her back a percentage. If she did more of this type of thing (she doesn't want to), she could easily be making a full time living as well.

I think many of us are looking at SM the wrong way. Over the last couple of months, I have come to the realization that I have been overlooking opportunities to make money by using SM. This is something I am in the process of correcting.

I think many of us on this thread could use SM to make money, raise our social proof with the ladies and genuinely document ourselves having fun lives.

Investment bro let me know when you put out the data sheet on affiliate marketing.

So talking to a 35 & 36 yr old respectively.

Matched with both, and the convos went really well. Ended up speaking to both on the phone for around 2-3 hours the day after we matched (A day and 2 days before Xmas)

Now - the texts kinda dried up and I noticed they don't respond as soon. I set up something for one of them on Saturday, the other I'm setting up right now.
How do I maintain? Usually with girls around my age, I'd text them every now and then throughout the day and they respond. Haven't altered from that but it seems slower lol.

How do I maintain till the meetups?

^How old are you wrecker? My last notch was a 35 year old and she won't stop hitting me up. She even hit me with a "why don't you ever text me." I've already smashed, so maybe that's why.

But in terms of maintaining till the meetups...I dunno. I generally subscribe to Sourcecode's mantra that if you don't meet up with them within a week of the match, it isn't worth it. I'd just chill, assume the plans are on, and hit them up the morning of to confirm that they are a yes/no for the date.

(12-24-2018 03:47 PM)Ogunn Wrote:  

(12-23-2018 09:55 AM)Investment Bro Wrote:  

(12-23-2018 09:03 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 05:33 PM)Black Caesar Wrote:  Think outside the box guys.

You know how much some of these girls are making on Insta posts?

Once you harness that a bit you can make it ik for you easy.

I mean you think they post all that for fun?

What do you mean by harness it? Are you talking about IG pimping?

I'm dating a girl right now with 75k followers.

She's a high end 7 in my opinion. One of the best looking girls I've gotten more than a ONS with. She was getting paid around 1.5k a month to promote all of these different products, as well as another 500-1k a month to model for photoshoots before we met.

Mind you, she doesn't try that hard or put in that much effort. Around three posts per week, and a few stories. Some of her friends are legitimate smokeshows that are solidly in the 8 category. They make more than I do just from IG, and I don't make peanuts.

To your point though, I use this girl to drive traffic to my Amazon listings when I'm launching new products (data sheet in progress right now). I also use her to help promote my own affiliate programs and I kick her back a percentage. If she did more of this type of thing (she doesn't want to), she could easily be making a full time living as well.

I think many of us are looking at SM the wrong way. Over the last couple of months, I have come to the realization that I have been overlooking opportunities to make money by using SM. This is something I am in the process of correcting.

I think many of us on this thread could use SM to make money, raise our social proof with the ladies and genuinely document ourselves having fun lives.

Investment bro let me know when you put out the data sheet on affiliate marketing.

Welcome back you slayer of Miami pussy.

(12-26-2018 01:55 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  ^How old are you wrecker? My last notch was a 35 year old and she won't stop hitting me up. She even hit me with a "why don't you ever text me." I've already smashed, so maybe that's why.

But in terms of maintaining till the meetups...I dunno. I generally subscribe to Sourcecode's mantra that if you don't meet up with them within a week of the match, it isn't worth it. I'd just chill, assume the plans are on, and hit them up the morning of to confirm that they are a yes/no for the date.

I'm in my mid 20's. First time messing with older women, but they're both super busy and have kids. They both responded this morning, so I'll just chill and see where it goes.

(12-26-2018 02:24 PM)wrecker132 Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 01:55 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  ^How old are you wrecker? My last notch was a 35 year old and she won't stop hitting me up. She even hit me with a "why don't you ever text me." I've already smashed, so maybe that's why.

But in terms of maintaining till the meetups...I dunno. I generally subscribe to Sourcecode's mantra that if you don't meet up with them within a week of the match, it isn't worth it. I'd just chill, assume the plans are on, and hit them up the morning of to confirm that they are a yes/no for the date.

I'm in my mid 20's. First time messing with older women, but they're both super busy and have kids. They both responded this morning, so I'll just chill and see where it goes.

Where you trying to meet up w/ them? From what you wrote this seems like it would be an easy smash. I'd honestly just tell them to pull up or go to their house lol. At the most take them to a low-key club then back to your crib. I've learned most older single mothers are just looking for sex from someone they can trust. I've had two 30+ women that wanted a friends with benefits type of situation but with them texting me throughout the day it felt too much like a relationship so watch out for that.

Also, when I have a two-three hour conversation on the phone with a girl I'm usually trying to meet up that same night or the next day. Anytime some shit happens where it's gonna be a week from now to meet then it's not worth the effort to me.

Other than that always have that on to the next mentality.

(12-26-2018 02:45 PM)jayesco Wrote:  Also, when I have a two-three hour conversation on the phone with a girl I'm usually trying to meet up that same night or the next day. Anytime some shit happens where it's gonna be a week from now to meet then it's not worth the effort to me.

Other than that always have that on to the next mentality.

Why are you having such long conversations with a woman?

(12-26-2018 02:57 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 02:45 PM)jayesco Wrote:  Also, when I have a two-three hour conversation on the phone with a girl I'm usually trying to meet up that same night or the next day. Anytime some shit happens where it's gonna be a week from now to meet then it's not worth the effort to me.

Other than that always have that on to the next mentality.

Why are you having such long conversations with a woman?

Why are you not? If I can't talk to them on the phone then what am I gonna talk to them about it in person...

Anyway, that was in a response to wrecker32. When/If I'm having a 2-3 hour conversation on the phone with a girl I just met then I'm trying to secure that meetup immediately and not a week later.

(12-26-2018 03:02 PM)jayesco Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 02:57 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 02:45 PM)jayesco Wrote:  Also, when I have a two-three hour conversation on the phone with a girl I'm usually trying to meet up that same night or the next day. Anytime some shit happens where it's gonna be a week from now to meet then it's not worth the effort to me.

Other than that always have that on to the next mentality.

Why are you having such long conversations with a woman?

Why are you not? If I can't talk to them on the phone then what am I gonna talk to them about it in person...

Anyway, that was in a response to wrecker32. When/If I'm having a 2-3 hour conversation on the phone with a girl I just met then I'm trying to secure that meetup immediately and not a week later.

Yeah dude. I'll facetime with a girl for an hour to get the smash within 48 hours. This Turkish 6 I got off Tinder here in NYC this year flat out told me that she wouldn't have had sex with me on the first night had I not Facetimed with her two days before - she said it made her feel like our "first night" was actually our "second date."

The notch I'm most impressed with this year, which I got off of Seeking Arrangement, I had Facetimed with for like 40 minutes the day I "matched her," and pushed her into meeting in person less than 3 hours later. Fucked her in my office, while her friends were texting her "make sure you DO NOT put out on the first date."

Sometimes light catering to the hamster can be beneficial. Emphasis on light - otherwise you're just entertainment.

(12-26-2018 03:02 PM)jayesco Wrote:  Why are you not? If I can't talk to them on the phone then what am I gonna talk to them about it in person...

Anyway, that was in a response to wrecker32. When/If I'm having a 2-3 hour conversation on the phone with a girl I just met then I'm trying to secure that meetup immediately and not a week later.

I don't have the bandwith or time to talk on the phone for 3 hours, that's a time sink.

A conversation is better had in person, you can read so much more out of a woman.

I can understand calling them for 10-15 minutes to get their vibe and to give them some sort of comfort.

But a few hours? That time could be used more wisely.

If you need to invest that much time after the initial meet up/date then I'd have to say you aren't doing enough on the front end to secure a second meet up.

(12-26-2018 03:55 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 03:02 PM)jayesco Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 02:57 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 02:45 PM)jayesco Wrote:  Also, when I have a two-three hour conversation on the phone with a girl I'm usually trying to meet up that same night or the next day. Anytime some shit happens where it's gonna be a week from now to meet then it's not worth the effort to me.

Other than that always have that on to the next mentality.

Why are you having such long conversations with a woman?

Why are you not? If I can't talk to them on the phone then what am I gonna talk to them about it in person...

Anyway, that was in a response to wrecker32. When/If I'm having a 2-3 hour conversation on the phone with a girl I just met then I'm trying to secure that meetup immediately and not a week later.

Yeah dude. I'll facetime with a girl for an hour to get the smash within 48 hours. This Turkish 6 I got off Tinder here in NYC this year flat out told me that she wouldn't have had sex with me on the first night had I not Facetimed with her two days before - she said it made her feel like our "first night" was actually our "second date."

The notch I'm most impressed with this year, which I got off of Seeking Arrangement, I had Facetimed with for like 40 minutes the day I "matched her," and pushed her into meeting in person less than 3 hours later. Fucked her in my office, while her friends were texting her "make sure you DO NOT put out on the first date."

Sometimes light catering to the hamster can be beneficial. Emphasis on light - otherwise you're just entertainment.

BIG difference from pulling girls off SA versus from the street or Bumble.

That's a whole different animal with obvious more instense and hardened game concepts applied.

If you aren't fucking SA girls on the first date then it's a waste of time, so I can understand investing some more time to soothe her hamster.


I still don't understand how ya'll have that much time to sit on the phone with a woman for hours, I've got shit to do.

^To each his own. Time is relative.

I like the personal touch of a phone call and the if the call is long then that's a plus for me. I'm not gonna waste a couple of hours on the phone if there isn't much interest there to begin with. Plus it helps me weed out the girls I'm not trying to fuck with.

@Kirdiesel

What's keeping you out of Berlin?

WIA

(12-26-2018 02:57 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 02:45 PM)jayesco Wrote:  Also, when I have a two-three hour conversation on the phone with a girl I'm usually trying to meet up that same night or the next day. Anytime some shit happens where it's gonna be a week from now to meet then it's not worth the effort to me.

Other than that always have that on to the next mentality.

Why are you having such long conversations with a woman?

Thanks - it ended up there was family drama & the other claims she feels weird because of the age difference lmao

As for the length of the phone call - haha man, a lot of reasons.
1) Just finished this past semester and have my internship and grades are good, plus im attending on a big scholly, so really nothing better to do. Once January comes, of course I cant continue this.

2) I don't just want a 1 night bang, I may want dinners, snacks, come through , etc. Put it like this - one of the woman was using her's ex's Netflix acct but he canceled it. She was like " i need to get one but i just havent". Figure I'll meet up, and then leverage the NetFlix acct for something else.

No the Netflix acct is really just worth 8 bucks, but she like me and just the gesture will reap return.

3) Intelligence gathering - I know her tendencies/likes/dislikes in those 3 hours. I know how to move off that, what activities to plan, how to end it so we'll still be friends and have future bangs. I like a full scouting dossier. Trust me - I know I'm young lol, but it's helped me immensly.

So it's been mentioned before that the player, the preacher, and the politician use similar tactics.

Being at home with the family for the holidays, I'm spending a lot of time with mom and pops. Dad's always watching the news, Mom and Grandma stay watching Inyala's Save My Life or some Christian mega-church Bible Thumper.

I'm trying to crack how what the news does, and what preachers do...how that relates to game.

The furthest I've gotten is that the preacher and the politician use a similar tactic of

a) Point out a problem. The preacher's talks about existential issues, then makes them concrete. Don't believe in God = depraved society = everyone should stop having sex before marriage. The politician focuses on taxes. Both of these types of problems are basically everyday struggles that the common person can relate to.

b) Say that what we are currently doing isn't working to solve the problem. In many ways, the preacher/politician treats the average Joe like incompetent children that can't make decisions for himself.

c) Claim that they (the politician/preacher) have the solution to our problems. Because they are "close to God" or because they look attractive and speak well, they are the authority on what is good for Average Joe.

Now the politician gets clout because they *usually* got the law on their side.

But the preacher? That's what really gets me curious.

Both preachers and politicians control the narrative. That's what I've noticed.

Do y'all notice that you similarly "control the narrative" when you open a group and get group dynamics? Find out relationships within the group? Get people riled up about a topic, then quickly switch to something else before the topic has been settled?

Incidentally that's the part of the book that I'm writing.
Advanced game for sure.

1) The key is having the platform.

2) After that how you look matters, but it's related to the story you want to tell. Like most guys default to suits, but a suit isn't always the optimal choice.

3) The top level communication has to have a somewhat logical hook, but the game comes in with the underlying message.

Most run and gun players have 2 & 3 (my current self included), but don't build platforms.

What separates the strip mall preacher from TD Jakes is the ability to get the congregation to take easy and immediate action. Action that promotes the thing as they give. They give more and feel more inclined to do even more.

I see a lot of these pickup gurus brag about being able to get dropped off in any city and have a girlfriend in 24 hours.

You want to parachute in and create a movement.

We could get deeper into the hard skills of the preacher and the politician.
- diction
- projection
- volume
- tone
- speed
- cadence
- judicious use of pauses
- obvious body language.

Putting that together, chick says something out the side of her neck. Lik

Pause, wait, shake your head, change tones. Before you say a word, you've not only increased the tension, in the mind of the audience they expect the next thing out of your mouth to be something.

So you have the opportunity to change up the direction of the chat three ways - what you say, what she expects, and increasing the tension.

That's all stuff that takes your attraction and trust game to the next level.

And what's interesting to me is that you can pull chicks WITHOUT this level of attention. The bar is low because even with all the information out there dudes still are cold dm'ing Instagram thots trying to come up with the perfect neg, or Photoshopping Tinder profile pics.

Do more to the chick, do it deeper, do it longer, lasts longer.

And if you bump up your game from a lite beer to heroin, what happens when you pull your attention away? I'ma chill on that though.

I hate to say it, but their president is a master of this. The fact that he does so much "wrong" that they can't keep their attention on him. In the background all manner of fuckery goes on.

WIA

(12-27-2018 02:51 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @Kirdiesel

What's keeping you out of Berlin?

WIA

As previously stated I am done discussing Germany or any other locations I visit in here.

Hearsay from ones' cousin or boy is more valued here than on the ground detailed real life experience.

Lord help you if you aren't killing it in area because women in every country in the world LOVES black men and if you don't do you well it must be because your game is trash.

W/ regards to the 2-3hr convos’ . . . 90% of the time I’ve had them, I ended up smashing on the first meet. Nothing wrong with that IMO.

Plus, most dudes just text, you’ll definitely differentiate yourself by chatting on the phone. Personally, I have a very deep & smooth voice (as I’m told) and it sets the tone early on.

No prob KD. I hadn't been keeping up with the thread.

WIA

it’s kinda ridiculous being in a city where most of the girls are “your type”

in the states I’ll go out and maybe like 3/10 chicks is really a girl I’m really down for as far as general looks and swag and style go.

Now here it’s more like 7 or 8 out of 10 when I’m out at a good spot.

Maybe this is how other guys feel when they go to East Europe?

I say it’s ridiculous cause now I’m a bit spoiled for choice.

Like imagine you walk in to a club filled with girls you posted to one of the fly girl threads.

Not to mention the ratios are good and is even better once you nix all the older expat cats who are paying to go home.

Yikes son.

Highly recommended though as far as experiences go.

Valid points by Kirdiesel. Though imo you're almost in the worst place for a black man in western germany. It doesn't get quite as bad as NRW.

(12-27-2018 11:55 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  W/ regards to the 2-3hr convos’ . . . 90% of the time I’ve had them, I ended up smashing on the first meet. Nothing wrong with that IMO.

Plus, most dudes just text, you’ll definitely differentiate yourself by chatting on the phone. Personally, I have a very deep & smooth voice (as I’m told) and it sets the tone early on.

I can say I have smashed 100 percent of the time I had a 2 hour convo with a woman. I am putting that streak on the line this weekend, as I had a 2.5 hour convo yesterday with a girl I met a couple weekends ago at Starbucks, and we both had some down time to connect via a call instead of texts. FWIW - She's 31. Most early 20s girls don't have the attention span to talk over 20 minutes.