Post: #51

One of the most embarrassing memories i have is a similar situation where i was with a girl i had just met in the club and it was a very sterile vibe between us but i was ploughing through. A guy comes in, says something, then tries to physically impose himself between us. I elbow push him away and throw a half assed punch before everyones breaks it up.

Then the girl acts all shocked and disgusted and steps away from me and is later complaining to other guys that were near us about how supposedly drunk i was.

I cringe so bad at this when i remember it. If the frame wasnt right from the beginning, getting violent with another man wont fix it.

Post: #52

I wouldn't escalate to a physical confrontation over a random broad, that's just irresponsible and looks needy.

As for your "friend" just let it go bro, you're not trying to fuck her so why are you trippin? I would hate for a friendzone'd girl to try and cockblock me.

AMOG tips in general, what I would have done is put my arm around her or physically wedge myself between, or try to mock his approach.

But there are bros who are just too drunk/autistic/thristy enough to not get the memo.

At that point, I would label him as "creepy" to the girl and signal to move with my eyes to the other side of the dance floor.

If that guy still follows and persists by then something is really wrong with the dude, proceed with caution.

If at any point the AMOG wants to square up with you, keep your guard up, let him vie for your attention but don't give him an inch and start arguing with him... Allow him to keep qualifying to you, people outside notice the chimpout and he'll start feeling like he's talking to a wall. It's a win-win. But don't stick around for too long coz it could get physical, you need to signal the girl with your eyes to bounce, and just walk away without saying a word.

Post: #53

(09-19-2016 04:05 PM)j50wells Wrote:  Always be ready to lose the girl if you hang at the clubs. Most pua's I know don't even take their girls to the clubs. In this case your girl wasn't even into you...

Being in a bar: You've already wasted that time.

Getting in a bar fight: Active pursuit of self-injury or junior high pride booster.

Do ANY of the biggest ballers in the world get in fucking bar fights?

Does Leonardo DiCaprio or Christian Bale get in bar fights?

Use your BRAINS not your fists unless you're a specialized fighter, and then you have to watch out you don't kill someone anyway.

IF she responds to that she's not even worth fucking, let alone being a friend which is a higher standard.

Post: #54

(09-22-2016 02:24 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  Do ANY of the biggest ballers in the world get in fucking bar fights?

Does Leonardo DiCaprio or Christian Bale get in bar fights?

Ah...well...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/07/23/...enies.html

http://archive.azcentral.com/thingstodo/...ation.html

Quote:Use your BRAINS not your fists unless you're a specialized fighter, and then you have to watch out you don't kill someone anyway.

IF she responds to that she's not even worth fucking, let alone being a friend which is a higher standard.

Seriously. Unless it's your monogamous GF of three years just go dance with another chick who cares. And if it is you should probably still leave her ass there anyway.

Post: #55

(09-22-2016 02:24 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 04:05 PM)j50wells Wrote:  Always be ready to lose the girl if you hang at the clubs. Most pua's I know don't even take their girls to the clubs. In this case your girl wasn't even into you...

Being in a bar: You've already wasted that time.

Getting in a bar fight: Active pursuit of self-injury or junior high pride booster.

Do ANY of the biggest ballers in the world get in fucking bar fights?

Does Leonardo DiCaprio or Christian Bale get in bar fights?

Use your BRAINS not your fists unless you're a specialized fighter, and then you have to watch out you don't kill someone anyway.

IF she responds to that she's not even worth fucking, let alone being a friend which is a higher standard.

This can apply to the AMOG'er too.
You never know who is on the other side...the guy of my previous post could have problems if somehow I was a guy with a different formation and education.

I have AMOG'ed...but it is always a risk. Though I never did it (that I recall...sometimes I drink a lot...) on a chick who was in a group of guys being clearly a member of the pack, like in OP case.

Recently this stunning girl whom my slavic radar noticed that was Eastern European, was in the middle of a talk with two belgium guys. I had just arrived at the place, but went approaching her agressively, first asking for a lighter, then introducing myself and after some more seconds of talk quickly took her to the next bar...there after a few more moments I was already breathing in her neck and grinding on her magnificent ass, she had a spark on her eyes...and I capitalized soon after. The Belgium guys where completely left without chance and reaction. I had a friend in that bar that I went to meet, and later he told me the guys where already for one hour striking conversation with her without going nowhere.
It's good to be an AMOG... She later confessed that it was mainly my confidence and boldness that attracted her.

Post: #56

(09-22-2016 02:24 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 04:05 PM)j50wells Wrote:  Always be ready to lose the girl if you hang at the clubs. Most pua's I know don't even take their girls to the clubs. In this case your girl wasn't even into you...

Being in a bar: You've already wasted that time.

Getting in a bar fight: Active pursuit of self-injury or junior high pride booster.

Do ANY of the biggest ballers in the world get in fucking bar fights?

Does Leonardo DiCaprio or Christian Bale get in bar fights?

Use your BRAINS not your fists unless you're a specialized fighter, and then you have to watch out you don't kill someone anyway.

IF she responds to that she's not even worth fucking, let alone being a friend which is a higher standard.

This is why I hate gaming at bars and clubs; these things tend to happen. I can't even count the number of times this has happened to me in college. I went to the University of Maryland, College Park, which is located in a seedy suburb of Washington D.C. The local thugs from the surrounding area and Southeast D.C would come in packs and go to the college bars and start trouble all of the time and fight over girls. And they knew that they had nothing to lose vs. the scrawny college kids who were looking to get good jobs out of school and didn't want to end up in prison.

One time I actually stood up to this dude who AMOGed me while I was dancing with this girl. Next thing you know I look back and see several of his boys shaking their heads, like I committed a huge no-no. I had no choice but to pull back because there was no way I could take on all of these guys at once. And there were already several stabbings outside of this bar. They finally started cracking down and only accepting people with college IDs after 8 pm.

Post: #57

(09-21-2016 12:26 PM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  Nobody is entitled to anything. Even if it's just being left the fuck alone. This is part of being unplugged. Assuming people will just follow the rules and social norms is erroneous thinking. Always be prepared to take matters into your own hands.

Of all "red pill truths", this is probably the harshest, yet most significant one. I'll admit I have a hard time with this as often I just want to be left the fuck alone. Think about bullies, they typically pick on the quietest person, the one that's least deserving of being bullied from any sort of morality standpoint.

Post: #58

(01-20-2015 03:53 PM)Travesty Wrote:  Soon as the guy touched me I'd grab his forearm like I was going to break it stare him in the eye and say if he touches me again I am going bust a fucking a tall glass on his face when he isn't watching and play with his blood on the floor.

That very last part is ripped from Mystery in The Game.

Yeah I'd go beserk, I am not getting touched against my will. It's the principle.

Yes I did train under Little Dark.

If the guy did it with words you gotta beat him with words. If a guy got in any way physical id choke him unconscious. It has to be proportional but in the context of this thread i think OP was just easy pickings and he just knew by his frame he was more likely to bitch on online forums than test his chin. not to be harsh but its just the reality of that situation.

Post: #59

(01-19-2015 06:00 AM)Noir Wrote:  You AMOG'ed yourself before he even came by dancing like a 'friend'.

So let's say it's a group of friends, or you are dancing with a girl "as friends" - I've gone to the clubs or bars before with a mixed group of friends, implied that we aren't banging. We would dance in big or small circles.

I see a few options here:

1. Just not dance with them -- go out and mack on some chicks. Or if you are taken and at the club with friends, avoid the dance floor and be at the bar or sit down.
2. Pair up with a girl, and protect her if some interloper tries to cut in. If she's down for some dick though, she may just want to be with the other guy. Girls are ruthless in bars and clubs.
3. Be sexual and always escalate even when you are dancing with a friend. Shortcut to awkward territory?

Post: #60

The OP has had a lot of great advice given out to him by high rep members on this thread and could not even be bothered to come back even to say thanks or expand on the original scenario or on how he had applied this valuable advice to improve his game.

So why even start a thread on RVF when the question he asked about the scenario clearly means so little to him??

"Laser"!!! "Loser" more like.

Post: #61

(09-28-2017 06:24 AM)Guitarman Wrote:  The OP has had a lot of great advice given out to him by high rep members on this thread and could not even be bothered to come back even to say thanks or expand on the original scenario or on how he had applied this valuable advice to improve his game.

So why even start a thread on RVF when the question he asked about the scenario clearly means so little to him??

"Laser"!!! "Loser" more like.

I'm not sure he liked the answers because they put the responsibility for the situation on him