Post: #1

hey

I'm wondering what's the core mindset of the players of this forum, especially in relation with other guys.

For example, if you are 6'3, 210lbs, ripped I'm sure you feel superior to most people, at least on the look deparment.

If you have 500k/year income and you are in a 3rd world country as well.

But how the average guy can feel entitled, how can it feel that's better when competing with the good-looking guy or rich guy? What mindset do you have?

You can say you're the shit internally, but in reality probably you are not. If you still think you are the shit good, but for some it doesn't work....there's need to be a hack mindset to still feel better than them. Being honest, you need stellar game to beat the 9 model looking guy with confidence and status or the rich dude with status.

I know there are average looking, average wealth players here laying 8s here, what is your mindset,how do you think when you clearly see a better dude stealing your girl that you tried to game(for ex).

Do you always think you are the shit even you know there are better guys competing with you?

Post: #2

(01-16-2015 04:21 AM)bewater Wrote:  hey

I'm wondering what's the core mindset of the players of this forum, especially in relation with other guys.

For example, if you are 6'3, 210lbs, ripped I'm sure you feel superior to most people, at least on the look deparment.

If you have 500k/year income and you are in a 3rd world country as well.

But how the average guy can feel entitled, how can it feel that's better when competing with the good-looking guy or rich guy? What mindset do you have?

You can say you're the shit internally, but in reality probably you are not. If you still think you are the shit good, but for some it doesn't work....there's need to be a hack mindset to still feel better than them. Being honest, you need stellar game to beat the 9 model looking guy with confidence and status or the rich dude with status.

I know there are average looking, average wealth players here laying 8s here, what is your mindset,how do you think when you clearly see a better dude stealing your girl that you tried to game(for ex).

Do you always think you are the shit even you know there are better guys competing with you?

What the fuck are you all about "beating an other man", "competing", "being better".

While sexual market is competitive in itself, your biggest competition is yourself.

Even if you are as good-looking as you describe and make 500k/year you may still be a Beta, who gets cheated on by his wife after some time - cheated with a less-good-looking, poor, but highly dominant Alpha.

Check out literally all posts on Alpha by Rational Male and Heartiste.

Your definitions of a Player might be off too - if you are famous, very good-looking or extremely wealthy you could literally fuck hundreds of high-level girls, but still get played like Paul McCartney by a one-legged bitch.

In the 'sphere I don't think that anyone would call someone a Player without the Alpha/Sigma mindset. In addition most Players should have Game, but depending on the state they are in, they don't really need much.

Examples:

1. Tom Torrero - average height, average or even sub-average looks, but slays girls much hotter and younger than him through sheer overpowering Game-level and time put in approaching girls where his lower looks-value is not as stingy - during Day Game mostly
2. Nick Krauser - average looks, though now probably way above-average charisma added, stupendous Game skills - succeeds much in the same way Tom Torrero does
3. Steve Jabba - above average looks, higher attraction, also Night Game valid for him - still way superior Game skills to bang 18-22yo while being almost 40
4. Dan Bilzerian - Alpha state in mind and character, 100 mio. $ in assets, exciting lifestyle, self-created social media fame, has no need of Game - pussy flows to him, but without his Alpha state he would get played by girls and they would not stay

Alpha is a state of mind - your tough-as-nails Alpha grandfather does not stop being Alpha just because he is 80. His market value may be too low to slay pussy, but his state is forever and he is likely still respected by his wife and his children.

Being a Player is something else - it's more a lifestyle - you might want to check out the Alpha archetypes on Return of Kings recently. The guys I mentioned above would all be Players - all different basic sexual market value, all need to work at different levels to get similar pussy, but all at least occasionally bang similar girls - maybe are even Eskimo Brothers. Sure - Dan Bilzerian "beats" them all, but life is what it is - we are not created equal, but you can still reach tremendous heights if you put in the work necessary.

Post: #3

I get what are you're saying.

What I'm saying is that I'm always comparing with males in clubs, ones the orbit/hit on my gf, the new ones that come into the social circle etc. In my mind I need to be or subconsciously know that I'm the better one so I can feel superior to him. When you feel superior you are more confident.

At core Alpha doesn't mean you better than other guys around you, you're the leader? Someone can feel internally he's the leader but others may not perceive it like he's the leader and the real alpha will surpass him.

Post: #4

(01-16-2015 04:21 AM)bewater Wrote:  Being honest, you need stellar game to beat the 9 model looking guy with confidence and status or the rich dude with status.

First, don't assume that girls have access to "model looking guys with confidence and status", 99% of them don't.

Then, you can very well get confidence and status yourself, money is also definitely within reach and even looks can be improved up to a point (get a good haircut and hit the gym religiously).

Most men aren't motivated to improve themselves, so you could easily set yourself apart from the masses simply by having the motivation to work on yourself.

(01-16-2015 04:21 AM)bewater Wrote:  You can say you're the shit internally, but in reality probably you are not. If you still think you are the shit good, but for some it doesn't work....there's need to be a hack mindset to still feel better than them

Believe you're the shit, who cares if in reality it's true or not. Most men aren't that confident, if you think you're better than them you're already halfway there. And work on yourself as I said above, that helps.

Post: #5

Considering yourself the prize due to giving her the honor of your company, or feigning it. Displaying sexual desire by kino, innuendos, etc. Overcoming insecurities and realizing life is short, so live it the fuck up.

Post: #6

My mindset?

I see dozens if not hundreds of women everyday.
The only thing separating us is what I say.

WIA

Post: #7

Personally competition gets me switched on and engaged.

It's not even about the girl or the prize at the end or our status. To me it's all about winning with the other guy. Even when I play pool or bowling with my good buddy and we compete for something I feel more engaged and totally focused on beating him. There are no logical thoughts, no calculations of my chances or judging our statuses/skills. None of that. Just pure urge to outgame him and dominate.

Few times I got the girl not because I wanted her per se but because I wanted to win with some other guy. Kind of strange but I really felt that way. I remember one guy told me that his whole philosophy was like this.. "if not me then someone else [will get the girl/job/prize/etc].. so why not me?". Simple as that.

Post: #8

(01-16-2015 01:04 PM)XXL Wrote:  Personally competition gets me switched on and engaged.

It's not even about the girl or the prize at the end or our status. To me it's all about winning with the other guy. Even when I play pool or bowling with my good buddy and we compete for something I feel more engaged and totally focused on beating him. There are no logical thoughts, no calculations of my chances or judging our statuses/skills. None of that. Just pure urge to outgame him and dominate.

Few times I got the girl not because I wanted her per se but because I wanted to win with some other guy. Kind of strange but I really felt that way. I remember one guy told me that his whole philosophy was like this.. "if not me then someone else [will get the girl/job/prize/etc].. so why not me?". Simple as that.

That's exactly what I mean. In my mind I'm always competing with others. But when it comes to girls, taller, better looking, rich dudes with status beat me, no doubt. What pisses me off is that even game can not beat the tall, handsome guy when we compete for the same girl...

The only way is to not compete with him, but I feel like I'm losing since I'm running from the challenge. Like you are in a street fight, you are skinny an he's a big bulky guy. Even if you know martial arts, you can't put him down with a punch because your punch is very low....so to live, you need to run or give up.

That's the thing I'm talking about. There are things that we can't control that makes other better in some areas if we are going to compete with them. That's why I'm asking what mindset others have, or they just don't care if the girl who are gaming for hours and other girls jump on the handsome guys that just entered the room...and you wasted your time, effort for nothing while the other guys just needed to enter the room.

Post: #9

I like the practical approach for newbies:

Get your testosterone levels high get horny want it bad really bad.

- No porn or masturbating (jelq to make your dick bigger instead (it does work and isn't talked about on the forum nearly enough))
- No drinking or weed or cigarettes unless you are hitting on or on a date with a chick
- Work out everyday
- Eat well, sleep well

- Purposely check out every attractive woman and look for IOI's, make as much eye contact and shared smiles as possible, fantasize about fucking them this helps negate their beauty and mystique when you talk to them
- Approach these girls even if it is just to ask for directions just to keep in constant contact with them


All these steps boil down to focusing so much on wanting to bang the women you want you don't even notice other men. Everything is about you and your world. This will make you more optimisitic and give you better results.

When I wake up do I think about who Leo DiCaprio is banging tonight?

No.

I see how many approaches I can do, how many dates I can set up, how I can improve myself and my surroundings.

Build your own empire. Don't live in a mental
masturbation land of other men's empires.

Want to make this more challenging?

Never hit on or check out a girl that isn't a solid 7 at least.

Want to be at the top level? Only hit on 8s. You better be in a high end scene of a tier 1 or 2 city with ratios in your favor. If you want it bad you will move there. Even here in Santa Barbara I rarely see legit 8s maybe a few dozen a month. (Goregous face, great body).

^ I don't think XXL's advice of out competing works for newbs it will bruise their ego too much, that is what game vets do when they have experienced success and are bored of pussy. I've learned much from his posts though.

Post: #10

Realising that women are not all the same. Not all women care about looks, money or status. And the ones that care are shallow gold diggers. So I am better off alone.

Realising that all the high status males cant fuck all the women in the world. There are bound to be leftovers.

Being realistic and lowering of standards. If I cant fuck Kate Winslet the fattie in the club will have to do.

Getting hammered. Alcohol makes you think you are Superman.

Post: #11

(01-16-2015 02:02 PM)bewater Wrote:  In my mind I'm always competing with others. But when it comes to girls, taller, better looking, rich dudes with status beat me, no doubt. What pisses me off is that even game can not beat the tall, handsome guy when we compete for the same girl...

BULLSHIT.

Game can beat the tall handsome guy. I've seen it with my own eyes. However, you need to improve yourself a lot to beat guys that have an overwhelming advantage. Thankfully there are not that many guys with overwhelming advantages.

You shouldn't worry about competing with those guys, you should work on bettering yourself.

Why are you getting pissed off at something you can't control (the girl going for a rich dude with status isn't something you can control)?

Work on things that you can control. There is no point in life to get angry or depressed at things you can't control.

Post: #12

(01-16-2015 03:03 PM)Pride male Wrote:  Being realistic and lowering of standards. If I cant fuck Kate Winslet the fattie in the club will have to do.

This is blasphemy. Please stop.