Post: #26

I live in colombia. The kids play outside till 11 at night on the weekends at times. Unheard of back in Canada or the USA.

Yes some places went extreme. CPS is doing their jobs. I support them removing kids from abusive situations 100%. However, kids walking to school and punishing parents for this I do not support them. Kids need exercise.

Post: #27

(01-16-2015 11:26 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  I really don't want to get into too much detail here, and if anyone has any specific questions, feel free to a P.M. me. Here's my take on this. The police probably took the children home and waited for one or both of the parents to show up at their home. The police probably had every intention of either issuing one or both parents citations for confining an unattended child or maybe even letting them go with a warning. The police may very well have had no intention of involving protective services, especially if there was no history of abuse or neglect. My guess is that eventually one or both parents arrived at the home and were completely uncooperative, argumentative, and/or disrespectful to the police and the police then decided to involve protective services. Once protective services got involved, it is clear that the parents were uncooperative with them, pissed them off, and now it's a whole thing. If a safety plan is put into place and the parents follow it, which is a big if, that may be the end of it, except maybe for some review hearings. If they had simply read my posts about how to behave when confronted with police, I really believe they could have avoided much of this problem.

This IS a good point, I don't know why you think you need to stay out of this thread.

Post: #28

(01-17-2015 06:36 PM)Tytalus Wrote:  

(01-16-2015 11:26 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  I really don't want to get into too much detail here, and if anyone has any specific questions, feel free to a P.M. me. Here's my take on this. The police probably took the children home and waited for one or both of the parents to show up at their home. The police probably had every intention of either issuing one or both parents citations for confining an unattended child or maybe even letting them go with a warning. The police may very well have had no intention of involving protective services, especially if there was no history of abuse or neglect. My guess is that eventually one or both parents arrived at the home and were completely uncooperative, argumentative, and/or disrespectful to the police and the police then decided to involve protective services. Once protective services got involved, it is clear that the parents were uncooperative with them, pissed them off, and now it's a whole thing. If a safety plan is put into place and the parents follow it, which is a big if, that may be the end of it, except maybe for some review hearings. If they had simply read my posts about how to behave when confronted with police, I really believe they could have avoided much of this problem.

This IS a good point, I don't know why you think you need to stay out of this thread.

So, just out of curiosity, are you saying that you think it's a valid reaction for agents of the state to start throwing their weight around with the parents who broke no laws because the parents told them to fuck off when they stuck their noses in? Assuming his scenario is fact, that is.

Post: #29

This is all part of humanity's grand self-depopulation scheme.

1. Give women economic alternatives to childbearing, e.g. work
2. Give women social alternatives to family formation, e.g. the cock carousel
3. Enforce paternity obligations
4. Provide birth control
5. Provide abortion

and finally

6. Make forming a family socially burdensome, by punishing parents who do an inadequate job

Add it all up and what do you have: Pandas.

Post: #30

(01-17-2015 08:06 PM)Shortest Straw Wrote:  6. Make forming a family socially burdensome, by punishing parents who do an adequate job

Fixed that for you.

G

Post: #31

(01-17-2015 08:11 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  

(01-17-2015 08:06 PM)Shortest Straw Wrote:  6. Make forming a family socially burdensome, by punishing parents who do an adequate job

Fixed that for you.

G

Jesus, you're right.

As a single father that has busted his butt for his kids, I can tell you that the oversight has been absurd. At least it was absurd until the kids got past about age 10 or so. And I'm a better mother than most women. I think the reason I got picked at was because they were nervous that I was encroaching on their turf. Motherhood is not very difficult.

Post: #32

This is what a 10 year old looks like:


And 6 year old:


You are a cop, patrolling Georgia Avenue. You saw these 2 kids walking hand in hand, unattended. You watched them for around 20 seconds and made sure that their parents are not nearby.

What would you do?

Post: #33

"Hey, you kids ok?"
"Yes sir, we are just walking home."
"Where is your home at?"
"Just down the street a little ways."
"Ok, you kids be safe."

*cop drives away and everything is completely fine.*

Post: #34

@turkish

There's no reason for the cop to get involved. If he was that concerned, he could have followed in the distance. This whole story is evidence of the breakdown of our society. Getting a ride home from school when I was that age was a privilege. There's no room in a cop car to pick up every kid that walked home. I'm not even that old. I was 10 in 1993. People are too busy jerking off to internet porn to know who their neighbors are. Let alone keep an eye out for the neighborhood children.

Post: #35

A little levity here:





Skip to the moneyshot here: http://youtu.be/Tt33zqib2qk?t=1m29s

Post: #36

These parents and their kids are back in the news today. The local cops found their two kids playing in the park unsupervised and took them into custody.

The cops picked up the kids and claimed they were going to take them home. Instead the cops held them in a car for two hours and took them to the police station.

Cops apparently held the kids several hours and didn't call the parents until 8 p.m. -- causing the parents to worry for hours.

This is now all over talk radio in the Baltimore-DC area and one talk show host, Clarence Mitchell IV on WBAL, has come out and called the police Nazis because they're now targeting this family specifically.

Your government at work, people. Here's a link to the Washington Post story -- even though it's blue pill media, this one is worth a click, if only to chime in on the comments section:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crim...story.html

Post: #37

This should be interesting.

Post: #38

(04-13-2015 09:21 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  These parents and their kids are back in the news today. The local cops found their two kids playing in the park unsupervised and took them into custody.

The cops picked up the kids and claimed they were going to take them home. Instead the cops held them in a car for two hours and took them to the police station.

Cops apparently held the kids several hours and didn't call the parents until 8 p.m. -- causing the parents to worry for hours.

This is now all over talk radio in the Baltimore-DC area and one talk show host, Clarence Mitchell IV on WBAL, has come out and called the police Nazis because they're now targeting this family specifically.

Your government at work, people. Here's a link to the Washington Post story -- even though it's blue pill media, this one is worth a click, if only to chime in on the comments section:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crim...story.html

I blame the cops on this one. I mean how did the interaction go down "Hey kids, whats up, what time are you supposed to be home for dinner? 6pm...ok, I'm going to come make sure you are on your way home then"

Unless...and also likely that these kids are now terrified of the cops/authorities and freaked out or bolted when they saw the cops.

Either way, how a cop who finds kids alone does not go with "Lets bring you home to your parents" as a worst case option vs. "lets bring you to CPS" is beyond me. If thats the case, my advice to my kids is going to be "don't go to the cops for help, if you see them run, they are bad guys too."

Post: #39

Im using mobile but there was a lady in cleveland who dropped her baby into a cheetah pit today. Simply google "lady drops baby into cheetah pit" and you will find the story. That is a case of retarded parents, not parents who allow their kids to walk home from school.

Post: #40

(01-15-2015 10:36 PM)Loukas Wrote:  It could be the case that they are indeed doing this for publicity reasons, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if this really happened. The US has one of the most invasive governments I've ever heard of and I'm not even talking about espionage or secret things.

It's definitely one of the last places I would choose to raise my child if I had one.

I left the US

I honestly feel it's a hostile police state where the government has every right to step all over you and there is nothing you can do about it.

that and it's a society full of brain dead individuals whose lives resume to work, work, work, shop, shop, shop, watch tv, and then work more (oh and believe they're free because TV told them so)

Post: #41

When I was around 7-8 years old I was riding my bike to and from school everyday. Nobody thought twice back then... different times.

Post: #42

(05-26-2015 07:18 AM)Gmac Wrote:  When I was around 7-8 years old I was riding my bike to and from school everyday. Nobody thought twice back then... different times.

I know a guy who at age three and four was riding a bike all over the place. He was a great athlete who had the coordination to ride a regular bike at age three. Nobody even blinked.

Post: #43

One part of the story that nobody has mentioned is the general suspicion and aversion Americans (or at least people in many parts of of the U. S.) have against walking. There's been quite a few times when I've just been walking down the road and random people have pulled over to find out what's going on. Mind you, these people are trying to be polite and helpful, they're just not able to wrap their heads around the idea that what looks like a normal middle-class white man would use his feet as a means of locomotion. And if you make your kids walk instead of driving them around in a car? Pretty much child abuse in the eyes of a lot of people.

Post: #44

(01-16-2015 08:03 PM)Only One Man Wrote:  So a ten year old boy isn't old enough or mature enough to lead his six year old sister on a simple walk home, but an eleven year old boy is old enough and mature enough to make a life altering decision to begin hormone therapy and become a girl?

This right here is a clear-cut example of the degeneration of this nation and the"progressive" agenda that is poisoning our culture. Gradually building a dystopia over here.

Post: #45

Child Protective Services has always been a system that tended to remove children from poor families to give them to wealthier families. Here are a few ways in which that happens:

(1) Kids from poor families are more likely to be hanging out in public places where they can be observed and reported to CPS. For example, if you're poor, then maybe your kid walks home from school along a public street, rather than getting off the bus at the entrance to your gated community. Maybe your kid throws a ball around with other kids in the neighborhood parking lot rather than in your fenced-in backyard.

(2) Poor families often can't afford to have their kids be closely supervised 24/7. Maybe the parent(s) work, and/or they can't a babysitter. So if there's a requirement that kids be closely supervised 24/7, then that will work to the disadvantage of poor families. (It doesn't help that a lot of kids are being raised by single parents these days, instead of there being a stay-at-home mom who can devote herself fully to being the kind of helicopter parent the state demands that parents be these days.)

(3) If you're poor, you're probably more likely to get slapped with a restraining order at some point. Abuse allegations are what penniless women, who can't afford to hire a lawyer to fight for possession of the family home and custody of the kids through the normal processes, often resort to. Once you have a restraining order on your record, that can be used against you by CPS as evidence that you have abusive tendencies. If you could've afforded a lawyer, maybe you could've gotten the judge to deny that restraining order petition, or it wouldn't have been filed to begin with.

(4) Once families get into the CPS system, if they're not rich, they'll have trouble jumping through all the hoops (treatment programs, etc.) that are involved. They have to pay the costs of the programs and take off work to attend. Caseworkers also visit their home and look through their fridge and so on; if they think there's not enough food, or the environment is otherwise not up to their standards, they'll share those concerns with the judge.

The end result is that parenting starts to seem like more and more of a Big Deal™ requiring lots of money and time. So people want to put it off longer and longer, till they've had plenty of time to enjoy some years of freedom and build up their resources to a point where they can give their kid the kind of environment (including round-the-clock close supervision) that the state expects them to maintain. This means that more couples will be childless because they waited too long to have kids, to the point that the woman became barren. Many of them will end up adopting the kids that get taken away by CPS from younger (and poorer) parents.

If people in the lower income brackets start to think that they won't be allowed to keep their kids, or that it would be irresponsible to have kids, then I would expect that's probably going to bring down the fertility rate. CPS proceedings can also rip apart families if, for example, the wife thinks she has a better chance of being allowed to keep her kids if she dumps her husband. At that point, she won't be having any more kids unless she jumps on a new dick. Some women, though, decide to just say, "I'm done having kids" after they break up with the father of their first child(ren).