Post: #26

seems my luck was opposite to yours

anyways, lying and impressing them is crap. make them attracted

Post: #27

This is idiot, what if the girl has the carrer that you are talking about? She will know that you are lying.
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I'm with Rooshv in that.

Post: #28

(04-28-2011 01:34 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  This is idiot, what if the girl has the carrer that you are talking about? She will know that you are lying.
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I'm with Rooshv in that.

And what if she ISN'T in that career? What if she is sexually excited by sleeping with <insert false career>?

A guy I know hung out with a few NBA players on a weekend. They were in a hotel swarming with groupies. The women asked him if he was also an NBA player.

He said yes, and got so much ass his ball juices were seriously depleted.

He lied about his career.

Doesn't hurt to try it. What works for Ali may not work for Joe and vice versa.

Post: #29

(04-27-2011 05:38 PM)gringochileno Wrote:  Lying and saying your career is higher-status than it really is exactly the wrong thing to do. The reason why giving bullshit answers like lion tamer to the "what do you do?" question works is because it signals that you don't give a fuck and aren't trying to impress anyone.

I have a relatively high status career track for someone my age (medical student) and often the point when a girl finds that out is after she comes home with me and sees my white coat and stethoscope hanging on a chair in the living room. Every time I've consciously tried to leverage it to my advantage during a pickup it's backfired.

Please pardon me, but I'm not sure what is high profile about medical student. If you were a doctor or a surgeon and actually accomplished in that field, then I could see the advantage but we can all be students in any field. Whether we are successful in that field is another question.

Not knocking your career path, you will be the MAN once you get into your own practice but right now leveraging potential isn't really a panty wetter to a female.

Women want it now, they are not interested in potentials (not for SNL anyway).

Women see careers as how much status you command. Usually a certain status comes hand in hand with the amount of money that one can command. Women go for men of status.

Post: #30

(04-28-2011 02:05 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(04-27-2011 05:38 PM)gringochileno Wrote:  Lying and saying your career is higher-status than it really is exactly the wrong thing to do. The reason why giving bullshit answers like lion tamer to the "what do you do?" question works is because it signals that you don't give a fuck and aren't trying to impress anyone.

I have a relatively high status career track for someone my age (medical student) and often the point when a girl finds that out is after she comes home with me and sees my white coat and stethoscope hanging on a chair in the living room. Every time I've consciously tried to leverage it to my advantage during a pickup it's backfired.

Please pardon me, but I'm not sure what is high profile about medical student. If you were a doctor or a surgeon and actually accomplished in that field, then I could see the advantage but we can all be students in any field. Whether we are successful in that field is another question.

Not knocking your career path, you will be the MAN once you get into your own practice but right now leveraging potential isn't really a panty wetter to a female.

Women want it now, they are not interested in potentials (not for SNL anyway).

Women see careers as how much status you command. Usually a certain status comes hand in hand with the amount of money that one can command. Women go for men of status.

Yeah hence why I said for my age, how many 23 year-old surgeons do you know? (or 23 year-old millionaire investment bankers for that matter.) I agree on the SNLs but if it's the type that needs to be taken on 2-3 dates before I can hit I bet it helps at least a little bit to maintain interest. Anyway, my point was that your job doesn't fucking matter and trying to use it to get ass sends the exact wrong signal.

Post: #31

Quote: Please pardon me, but I'm not sure what is high profile about medical student. If you were a doctor or a surgeon and actually accomplished in that field, then I could see the advantage but we can all be students in any field. Whether we are successful in that field is another question.

Not knocking your career path, you will be the MAN once you get into your own practice but right now leveraging potential isn't really a panty wetter to a female.

I disgree. Its about perspective, not reality. Women are very uninformed, on average. "Med student" translates to 'Doctor' in the mind of 98% of dumb as fuck women. Trust me, I've wet the panties with a hell of a lot less than 'med student'. Hell, most guys read 'med student' as higher than normal status.

Quote:Anyway, my point was that your job doesn't fucking matter and trying to use it to get ass sends the exact wrong signal.

I doesn't matter in that a skilled guy with a shitty job can get laid, but it can always help. A good job equals improved status. Status equals attraction. Its just a different route to attraction than pure personality. Who cares about what the right signal is when your trying to bang a woman, as long as that signal gets you there. Now, being overly obvious in relying on that job to improve your status in unattractive. You have to know who to use it. I'm referring to using a job to build attraction for a guy who knows how to use that information skillfully. Generally, you want to undersell it.

Post: #32

There seems to be some mixed responses..... I don't go to a woman and say upfront I'm "insert career here"..... I have only done that when a friend of mine was next to me to get a howl out of it to see their reaction when they asked me what I do.... Granted, I do play mysterious games,, pulling Roosh's guess if they ask what career I do etc.. Its just a different angle to see if I can bang this broad. But, once that is said,, I turn it on here, and say what are you qualified in.. (not what you do,, use the word qualified) and now she is working to show me her value... Just a tactic in my trials and tribulations of improving my game.

Post: #33

It depends on the woman. With some women, letting them know that your looking to settle down (similar provider message that the 'good job' thing gives) will allow you to make a lot of inroads with her. Including getting laid fairly easily. Whether its true or not doesn't matter as far as getting laid is concerned. Whether or not its good to do is another story.

With other women, they don't care about your job and may even be repulsed if your looking to provide / settle down. So, lying can work for you or against you.

Generally, the type of man that she wants depends on her age and what experiences she's had.

Personally, I'm turning over a new leaf and trying to be honest to a fault with women. This seems to have the effect of getting you laid a lot quicker and more frequently with many women, while turning away the ones who don't want what you are offering. Even if I do lose some ass because of it, I make out in the end.

Post: #34

Who gets laid more ? In the UK I can bet you that an 18k a year fireman fucks alot more girls than a 150k a year doctor. Interestingly a guy I know is a fireman and he gets no play when his game runs out and he over relies on being a fireman to get laid. I have watched him start faltering then chuck out the 'I am a fireman line' and the second girls sense him using it to impress them they completely turn off.

Post: #35

(04-28-2011 06:12 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  Personally, I'm turning over a new leaf and trying to be honest to a fault with women. This seems to have the effect of getting you laid a lot quicker and more frequently with many women, while turning away the ones who don't want what you are offering. Even if I do lose some ass because of it, I make out in the end.

There's definitely a point where you come full circle and the "game" you begin to work is basically anti-game. There are no more lines, no more "approaches," no more retarded acronyms. And, no more lying about your work, your age, your intentions. You've seen it all, and you've internalized your knowledge to the point you can't even articulate it half the time.

This is some advanced, Jedi shit that comes with an obvious upside: pussy is now worthless and accessible at virtually a moment's notice. But it also marks a downside, a loss. The magic you once felt when you saw your hard work in improving your game pay off, when you delivered it just right, and you savored your well-earned reward is gone. It's become mechanical, cynical, and whatever. You reach for ever-elusive, increasingly ambitious prizes to re-capture that old feeling.

I imagine that's how Mick Jagger, George Clooney, and those guys have felt for decades. In some ways, the best thing to be is a newly minted player. You're still hungry, but you have a means to feed yourself.

Post: #36

It's always fun to push boundaries with girls. See how far you can go and enjoy watching the amazed look on their faces as they realize they're really letting you do that to them (it)...

Post: #37

My mechanic status pulls more ass than the ladies room at grand central station!No, seriously some girls dig what I do some dont.One may think im going to come over and get her white couch dirty and the next may think where the fuck was this clown when a/c went out. No big deal! The task at hand is to talk her panties off.If you can run the mouth the panties drop!

Post: #38

(04-28-2011 07:36 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  My mechanic status pulls more ass than the ladies room at grand central station!No, seriously some girls dig what I do some dont.One may think im going to come over and get her white couch dirty and the next may think where the fuck was this clown when a/c went out. No big deal! The task at hand is to talk her panties off.If you can run the mouth the panties drop!

I get a lot of compliments on my hands from my job, you notice the same? A lot of girls really dig the rough hands with callouses thing

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Post: #39

(04-28-2011 07:45 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

(04-28-2011 07:36 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  My mechanic status pulls more ass than the ladies room at grand central station!No, seriously some girls dig what I do some dont.One may think im going to come over and get her white couch dirty and the next may think where the fuck was this clown when a/c went out. No big deal! The task at hand is to talk her panties off.If you can run the mouth the panties drop!

I get a lot of compliments on my hands from my job, you notice the same? A lot of girls really dig the rough hands with callouses thing

What? please explain exactly what you mean by that.

Post: #40

Don't say anything about your career. If you have a high status job, she will eventually find out without you saying anything. That will only help clinch the situation in your favor. If you don't have a high status job, who cares. You didn't use it to get with her anyway.

Post: #41

I am not completely truthful, just mysterious....seems to work well. However, if I am backstage of a techno concert in Eastern Europe, damn right I'm gonna say I'm a DJ from Miami to the groupies backstage. I can get away with it. Similar to the situation Moma described with his boy saying he's an NBA player.

Location of where you lie is paramount. That "I'm an NBA PLayer" or "I'm a Miami DJ" lie will not work at a supermarket or local mall or regular night venue where the woman cannot give you the benefit of the doubt that you really are.

The situation of where you say the lie, determines it's success.

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Post: #42

It completely depends on the situation. If you meet a girl in your hometown you like and want to get to know better you would be a fool to lie. If you are in a foreign country or state..well..

I'm a 6'3 white guy. When I was in other parts of the country I used to tell girls I played professional basketball overseas in Europe - that I was a good college player but not quite NBA good, and that I did well playing in European countries. This worked very well because it was exotic and believable. i would say "those NBA guys are just amazing, I had a couple tryouts but could never make the league" so i was being humble while bragging. But in this day and age you also have to be very careful because girls can easily pull out their iphone and google your ass while you're in the bathroom.

Post: #43

(04-28-2011 06:17 PM)billy Wrote:  Who gets laid more ? In the UK I can bet you that an 18k a year fireman fucks alot more girls than a 150k a year doctor

Well, that's UK. If I ever gonna get laid there (the only option I see is being on some hard drugs) this will be the most kept secret in my life.

Post: #44

@oldnemesis there are non-english girls too back in the UK. digging into the international pool back in london did miracles for me

Post: #45

I know, but what's the point for me to go to UK to bang non-english girls?

Post: #46

a great blend at your disposal

Post: #47

(05-02-2011 03:36 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  I know, but what's the point for me to go to UK to bang non-english girls?

Good point. That's why I refused to bang tourists when I was in DR. Some fellow cakes were pounding out the tourist sluts in the sea and on the beach while I tirelessly hunted down every dark skinned target I could point my probe at.

It didn't make sense. I am surrounded by all sorts of europeans in my city and I waste money to bang them in a foreign spot?

That's like going to France or Milan to eat Mcdonalds! If you like Mickey Dee's so much, do it in America, dude!

Post: #48

(05-03-2011 02:52 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(05-02-2011 03:36 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  I know, but what's the point for me to go to UK to bang non-english girls?

Good point. That's why I refused to bang tourists when I was in DR. Some fellow cakes were pounding out the tourist sluts in the sea and on the beach while I tirelessly hunted down every dark skinned target I could point my probe at.

It didn't make sense. I am surrounded by all sorts of europeans in my city and I waste money to bang them in a foreign spot?

That's like going to France or Milan to eat Mcdonalds! If you like Mickey Dee's so much, do it in America, dude!

I've got a different perspective. You may be in another country but you're limiting your options by singling out only the natives. Sure, you WANT to bang them for whatever reason (flag, bragging rights, proving to yourself) but a notch is a notch.

I don't see it as a waste of money unless your sole reason for going somewhere is to get the flag.

I think the following analogy is a little more fitting:

You're going to fish in a new spot and throw back anything that isn't a rainbow trout, just because you want specifically want to catch a rainbow trout.

Sure it would be nice, but that sounds like more of a waste of time to me than keeping your options open. You're missing out on a lot of other fish even if you've caught them before.

Post: #49

(05-03-2011 02:58 PM)Gmac Wrote:  I've got a different perspective. You may be in another country but you're limiting your options by singling out only the natives. Sure, you WANT to bang them for whatever reason (flag, bragging rights, proving to yourself) but a notch is a notch.

I don't see it as a waste of money unless your sole reason for going somewhere is to get the flag.

I think the following analogy is a little more fitting:

You're going to fish in a new spot and throw back anything that isn't a rainbow trout, just because you want specifically want to catch a rainbow trout.

Sure it would be nice, but that sounds like more of a waste of time to me than keeping your options open.

I see what you are saying but if I am going to Columbia, Brazil or Peru for instance, I'm not going to waste my nut on tourist pussy. I've got to blast at least 75 percent of my stock into local chicas than fcuk wit fellow travellers!
Unless, local puzzy is highly unattainable then in that case, I'll settle for some travelling reptile..

Post: #50

Women fuck men for a ton of reasons.

Attraction
Control
Desperation
Money
Status

A girls does not have to be attracted to you, admire you, or respect, or ANYTHING to fuck you. Getting a girl to fuck you for the most part can be done by simply showing the chick some attention and pressing the tight buttons. Granted with nothing of value to offer her it will prob only be a one or few time occurrence.

I have asked plenty of girls why they have fucked some ugly, lame, failure and they almost always say "i dont know, it was just there or it just happened".