Post: #1

This past weekend I went out with this women, who to my surprise is 38. (I'm 23). We vibed well and had some make out sessions. I did some smooth venue changes, but ultimately could not get her to go to my apartment. So, I end the night kissing her when I dropped her off to her car.

I text her two days later thanking her for the time out and then alluding to a potential second meet up. She then responds, "yeah, we can possibly hang out it again as long as you understand that you won't be having sex with me".

My natural instinct is to put her on the "next" column, since I already have other more juicier and DTF prospects. But, could this be some form of shit test to see if I can actually follow through with a second date plan?

Thoughts?

Post: #2

(12-29-2014 11:14 AM)colombiano972 Wrote:  This past weekend I went out with this women, who to my surprise is 38. (I'm 23).

Depending on your game level, she's probably going see through your "smoothness". She's 38, and women do learn from life experience like men do. Plus, that age can be real teases...are looking for attention/validation.

Quote:We vibed well and had some make out sessions. I did some smooth venue changes, but ultimately could not get her to go to my apartment. So, I end the night kissing her when I dropped her off to her car.

Yep, sounds about right. Did you just drive back to your apt without asking? "I'm just stopping to change shirts" or something stupid. Invite her up. She'll let you know if she really isn't interested...mighta worked.

Quote:I text her two days later thanking her for the time out and then alluding to a potential second meet up. She then responds, "yeah, we can possibly hang out it again as long as you understand that you won't be having sex with me".

Sigh. Don't do this. Don't even text her unless it's for another hang out. The most you should have done was a same night, before going to bed, "fun times" text, but even that I wouldn't recommend. Two days later, you only got to first base, and you're still thinking of her (that's what she hears).
I don't remember the last time I thanked a girl for a good time. My go to is "I had a great time yesterday"...if I banged em.

Quote:My natural instinct is to put her on the "next" column, since I already have other more juicier and DTF prospects. But, could this be some form of shit test to see if I can actually follow through with a second date plan?

Thoughts?

Well the good news is you did escalate and push the interaction toward sex. You're on the right track to going after what you want. And she's thinking about sex with you. If you want to bang her, text her some time to see if she wants to hang out. You know what you want, and you know her now, so you should be able to quickly assess whether she'll bang you or not and not waste time validating her.

Post: #3

Well, I don't have a car. We were at a bar that was like about 5 to 6 blocks away from my apartment. I tried using a food bait to try to lure her into my place. I was making some arepas (a type of flatbread native to Colombia and Venezuela) during the week and dropped into my conversation early in the date. She really didn't budge at that type of bait. Interestingly she let me do the arm lock move and hold hands whenever we changed venues.

Post: #4

I think the general consensus is if she mentions that you won't be having sex before you do , it means the thought of having sex has already entered her mind .

It's just her hamster giving her plausible deniability . I would have responded with " we're on the same page , i got taken advantage of before and i don't want it to happen again "

Then once you meet , escalate as if that conversation never even happened .

Post: #5

(12-29-2014 01:47 PM)Sensei Creation Wrote:  I think the general consensus is if she mentions that you won't be having sex before you do , it means the thought of having sex has already entered her mind .

+1
Say you're just going to "hang out" at your place and escalate, hard.

Post: #6

The boys have already nailed this one.

Time for some don't fuck it up game Colombiano!

Post: #7

It's always a fantasm to bang an older lady. It is fun for the first couple of times.

Just like the other guys said. If she is talking about sex, whether it's "i wanna do it" or "we're not having sex", it means she is thinking about it.

Post: #8

Yeah she wants it or is thinking about it at least. I made the mistake of falling for this trap in my pre-roosh days. Don't do the same!

Post: #9

Try one more time, if it doesn't pan out, next her

Post: #10

It depends on how she looks. If she is worse than what you usually get, delete her number. If she is better than you usually get, give her one, or even two more chances. If that doesn't work, delete her number. If she is equal to what you usually get, do whatever you feel is best, but don't spend an inordinate amount of time on her.

I really don't care about age as long is she is not 100 or something. My last two notches were 24 and at least 40.

Post: #11

OP:

If you and I went out for a beer, would you need to tell me: Kissinger2014, look sex is not going to happen tonight?

I hope the f*** not. Because it's not even on the table (it's not you, it's me). How about if you went out with your cousin? Again, same thing.

She is thinking about having sex with you. As others have said, don't fall for her denial.

Meet up with her again. Be non-reactive if she mentions not having sex. Keep escalating. And just make sure you have a condom at your place!