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(12-24-2014 02:32 PM)Monty_Brogan Wrote:  
Quote:I'm legitimately curious what the standard protocol is for the removal of a body from a crime scene.

Two weeks ago a neighborhood drunk with a history for pointing his gun at people in bars was causing a scene at our local watering hole. We live/grew up in an all white working class neighborhood and this bar is all cops, vets, firemen, etc.

Long story short, this guy came across the bar and pushes my buddy, trying to start a fight. He then decides to pull out his gun and he shoots my buddy point blank in the stomach. Within seconds of shooting my buddy, an off-duty unloaded his .45 on the assailant and he was dead as a door knob probably when he hit the floor.

To answer your question... The police locked down everyone that was in the bar -probably 10-15 men, turned the smoking lamp on, and ordered everyone pizza while they conducted interviews. The shooter was laying dead on the bar floor the entire night.

Off topic, but always have your guard up. You never know.

This really happened? Was there any local news coverage of this event?

Totally crazy, you mean he fired multiple shots at this guy? And all hit him and none hit bystanders or anything?

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I always suspected that this race baiting is a calculated strategy to keep the black community at the bottom of society. the PC culture is a marketing strategy to deresponsabilize a certain ethnic group to prevent it to advance socially and economically and to claim a larger piece of the pie. the glorification of ghetto culture promoted in the american media outlet is unparalleled for any other ethnic/race group.
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(12-24-2014 03:12 PM)catoblepa Wrote:  the glorification of ghetto culture promoted in the american media outlet is unparalleled for any other ethnic/race group.

This is true, I can't think of any other culture which glorifies ghetto aspects of its population. A few developed western european countries (U.K., France, and the Netherlands) have mimicked the U.S. when it comes to this degeneracy but it's really unusual if you look at it from a global level.
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(12-24-2014 03:04 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  
(12-24-2014 02:32 PM)Monty_Brogan Wrote:  
Quote:I'm legitimately curious what the standard protocol is for the removal of a body from a crime scene.

Two weeks ago a neighborhood drunk with a history for pointing his gun at people in bars was causing a scene at our local watering hole. We live/grew up in an all white working class neighborhood and this bar is all cops, vets, firemen, etc.

Long story short, this guy came across the bar and pushes my buddy, trying to start a fight. He then decides to pull out his gun and he shoots my buddy point blank in the stomach. Within seconds of shooting my buddy, an off-duty unloaded his .45 on the assailant and he was dead as a door knob probably when he hit the floor.

To answer your question... The police locked down everyone that was in the bar -probably 10-15 men, turned the smoking lamp on, and ordered everyone pizza while they conducted interviews. The shooter was laying dead on the bar floor the entire night.

Off topic, but always have your guard up. You never know.

This really happened? Was there any local news coverage of this event?

Totally crazy, you mean he fired multiple shots at this guy? And all hit him and none hit bystanders or anything?
Seems unless the race card is used these local events stay low coverage. I sometimes read the local neighborhood papers and get shocked at the amount of violent crimes that take place. Sometimes cop s are involved. But an Italian guy or Russian guy getting shot doesn't make the news..even if by a Black cop. Why is that?

Quote:This is true, I can't think of any other culture which glorifies ghetto aspects of its population. A few developed western european countries (U.K., France, and the Netherlands) have mimicked the U.S. when it comes to this degeneracy but it's really unusual if you look at it from a global level.

Russia/UA glorifies GANGSTER culture. Like in mafia godfather type culture with rap!
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Wow, some legendarily idiotic comments are being up-voted like crazy over on Huffington Post.

Quote:It's not "Protect and Serve" anymore. It's "Comply or Die".
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Quote:Across this nation, police are calling for absolute obedience and respect.......... as they rape and murder the citizens.
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Quote:description :"person non white looking / not a person under white privilege".
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Quote:Maybe if cops haven't become such cowards and knew how to subdue a suspect without killing them.... There was a time when they could.
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Quote:wait for it, wait for it...... hopefully the police department is reviewing any footage so we can be spared the rote "suspect went for his waistband" and "the video doesn't tell the whole story". What happened to arresting people instead of shooting them? Defiance is not a capital offense, even in Missouri.
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Quote:Whatever happened to shooting to disable instead of shooting repeatedly to kill. Not knowing the entire facts in this case, outside of what one of the suspects said, I will reserve judgment, however will state that if the police officer felt threatened, he should have aimed for Martin's legs and simply made it impossible for the suspect to move. Firing repeatedly into a suspect's torso or higher is ridiculous
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Dear lord I hope none of these people ever have a gun pulled on them.
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If I was still working I would go out with a case of the BLUE FLU! Cops are cowards..no doubt! I agree..if they had any balls they would be a national BLUE FLU movement. For those who don't know it is when cops decide to go out sick... thus not breaking the un moral Taylor law.
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Yeah the cops should have just sat in their cruiser and waited compliantly until Antonio popped a couple shots into their heads, right? That's what they deserve, they're cops! The lowest of the low! Wings on pigs! Wings on pigs!
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The rioting thing cracks me up.

"They killed another teenager in our community. Quick! Let's grab some Butterfingers!"

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(12-24-2014 03:47 PM)Socrates Wrote:  Yeah the cops should have just sat in their cruiser and waited compliantly until Antonio popped a couple shots into their heads, right? That's what they deserve, they're cops! The lowest of the low! Wings on pigs! Wings on pigs!

Yes they do because they don't BLUE FLU!

Here is from the gun forum. Seems they support it.

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Quote:f there is a Blu Flu outbreak, I hope it hits the predominately African American areas since they seem to be the ones causing most of the problems. It won't be long before the three stooges; Holder, Sharpton, and Obozo start stomping their feet noting that it's racist for the police to do this. We are living in a F'ed up time where wrong is right and right is wrong. Will this be the match that causes the whole shi*thouse to go up in flames? One never knows, do one?


Quote:The protesters saying they are here to keep the cops out and defend our community. The store next door to mine got broken into by the protesters and they looted all the phones. Is this a new tax for them defending us against police"


Quote:If I were their union leader, there would be a massive case of blue flu. I would let that cesspool of a city drown.

Quote:All Cops in New york should take 1 full week off. Sunday thru Saturday.

The following week, all L/E will be rested and the public will be glad they are back.
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RT's got a lot of coverage of this shooting:











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Putin is jealous that the Ukrainian police didn't put down Maiden so his opionion doesn't count.
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(12-24-2014 03:28 PM)DrewP Wrote:  Wow, some legendarily idiotic comments are being up-voted like crazy over on Huffington Post.

Quote:It's not "Protect and Serve" anymore. It's "Comply or Die".
Most popular comment with 289 likes

Quote:Across this nation, police are calling for absolute obedience and respect.......... as they rape and murder the citizens.
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Quote:description :"person non white looking / not a person under white privilege".
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Quote:Maybe if cops haven't become such cowards and knew how to subdue a suspect without killing them.... There was a time when they could.
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Quote:wait for it, wait for it...... hopefully the police department is reviewing any footage so we can be spared the rote "suspect went for his waistband" and "the video doesn't tell the whole story". What happened to arresting people instead of shooting them? Defiance is not a capital offense, even in Missouri.
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Quote:Whatever happened to shooting to disable instead of shooting repeatedly to kill. Not knowing the entire facts in this case, outside of what one of the suspects said, I will reserve judgment, however will state that if the police officer felt threatened, he should have aimed for Martin's legs and simply made it impossible for the suspect to move. Firing repeatedly into a suspect's torso or higher is ridiculous
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Dear lord I hope none of these people ever have a gun pulled on them.

These losers will be the first to rally behind the police when shit hits the fan. They have no legitimacy with what they are saying. Lilly white SJWs who bark for "equity" and "justice" on their MacBooks in a Starbucks in a gentrified part of town that used to be a vibrant neighborhood for Blacks and Latinos. Sick of their noise.
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(12-24-2014 03:56 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  
(12-24-2014 03:55 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  


Putin is jealous that the Ukrainian police didn't put down Maiden so his opionion doesn't count.

Laugh

Putin doesn't control everything RT does.

However, RT does seem to focus a lot of coverage of the black protests for obvious reasons: it exposes the hypocrisy of the USA always whining about "human rights."
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(12-24-2014 04:03 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  
(12-24-2014 03:56 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  
(12-24-2014 03:55 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  


Putin is jealous that the Ukrainian police didn't put down Maiden so his opionion doesn't count.

Laugh

Putin doesn't control everything RT does.

However, RT does seem to focus a lot of coverage of the black protests for obvious reasons: it exposes the hypocrisy of the USA always whining about "human rights."
But the US isn't violating human rights here. Protesters think so but they are ignorant! I am sure Russian cops shoot on sight! The average Russian would commend the cops for shooting the criminals. And RT is run by Putin's henchmen. Nothing goes on air without approval.

That being said the USSR HAS A LONG HISTORY OF screaming about the plight of black men in America. I wonder if the blacks feel better treated in Russia? care to wager?
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(12-24-2014 04:03 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  
(12-24-2014 03:56 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  
(12-24-2014 03:55 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  


Putin is jealous that the Ukrainian police didn't put down Maiden so his opionion doesn't count.

Laugh

Putin doesn't control everything RT does.

However, RT does seem to focus a lot of coverage of the black protests for obvious reasons: it exposes the hypocrisy of the USA always whining about "human rights."
But the US isn't violating human rights here. Protesters think so but they are ignorant! I am sure Russian cops shoot on sight! The average Russian would commend the cops for shooting the criminals. And RT is run by Putin's henchmen. Nothing goes on air without approval.

That being said the USSR HAS A LONG HISTORY OF screaming about the plight of black men in America. I wonder if the blacks feel better treated in Russia? care to wager?

It doesn't matter how blacks are treated in Russia. What matters is there are a lot of blacks in the USA who feel that these shootings are violating their human rights. You don't seem to agree with them, but the tension in poor black communities between them and the police is growing. It is not RT propaganda to point that out.

Here is protest yesterday in NYC, for instance:



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(12-24-2014 03:58 PM)kosko Wrote:  These losers will be the first to rally behind the police when shot hits the fan. They have no legitimacy with what they are saying. Lilly white SJWs who bark for "equity" and "justice" on thier MacBooks in a Starbucks in a gentrified part of town that used to be a vibrant neighborhood for Blacks and Latinos. Sick of their noise.

Exactly. I don't even listen to these opinions any more - these people don't walk their talk and they never will. All they do is regurgitate the mainstream media's view of a situation. If American media were ultra-racist and fascist, all these 'Black Lives Matter' SWPL types would be talking about how they need to wipe out the black race to achieve American supremacy on the world stage. The only thing they care about is being a good little follower. Thinking they have the right to look down their nose on the rest of us 'enlightened' cretins is just a bonus for them.
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Out of curiosity what would happen if media writers started getting assassinated ? Would they bitch or change their tune!
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Quote: He then decides to pull out his gun and he shoots my buddy point blank in the stomach.

Quote:What happened to your friend? Stomach wounds suck!

He got EXTREMELY lucky, no permanent damage. I visited him in the hospital the day after it happened and he was in a WORLD of pain and looked like absolute crap -as you can imagine. It took him a couple days but he was finally able to go to bathroom.
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(12-24-2014 04:03 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  Laugh

Putin doesn't control everything RT does.

However, RT does seem to focus a lot of coverage of the black protests for obvious reasons: it exposes the hypocrisy of the USA always whining about "human rights."

I like reading RT to get an alternative perspective on news. However, when it comes to American politics RT will always focus on any events that make the US look bad. They were all over Ferguson because it makes the USA look like a dystopian police state.

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(12-24-2014 11:48 AM)britchard Wrote:  I find it funny how the SJWs call the cops racist. They need to have a re-read of the definition of racist- i.e. hate or discrimination against an entire race. Funny how no black guys who have jobs and their own families ever get shot isn't it...

Are you serious? Do you really not know?

There have been plenty of unarmed, working black men with families that have been gunned down by police. You let the media fool you into believing that the only ones who have been killed were career criminals.

Do better, please. Google is your friend.
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(12-24-2014 09:44 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  I have an awesome idea on how to make money off all this race hysteria. The question is simply do I want to stoop that low?

Well everyone else has, you may as well!
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(12-24-2014 04:49 PM)silent_scope Wrote:  
(12-24-2014 11:48 AM)britchard Wrote:  I find it funny how the SJWs call the cops racist. They need to have a re-read of the definition of racist- i.e. hate or discrimination against an entire race. Funny how no black guys who have jobs and their own families ever get shot isn't it...

Are you serious? Do you really not know?

There have been plenty of unarmed, working black men with families that have been gunned down by police. You let the media fool you into believing that the only ones who have been killed were career criminals.

Do better, please. Google is your friend.

So you're saying that the media is burying stories about the killings of these respectable blacks in order to focus on thugs? Somehow that doesn't seem to fit with their agenda.
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(12-24-2014 04:41 PM)Seth_Rose Wrote:  
(12-24-2014 04:03 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  Laugh

Putin doesn't control everything RT does.

However, RT does seem to focus a lot of coverage of the black protests for obvious reasons: it exposes the hypocrisy of the USA always whining about "human rights."

I like reading RT to get an alternative perspective on news. However, when it comes to American politics RT will always focus on any events that make the US look bad. They were all over Ferguson because it makes the USA look like a dystopian police state.

Well they did an article that said Obama and the white house is being controlled by Aliens. If they meant illegal ones maybe a bit of truth but the article was talking about the little green men type.

That being said, I thought it might be showing us in a good light! After all, being lead by non- fat beings that mastered long distance space travel is got to be a few steps ahead of Washington that can't even balance their budget!

Quote:So the media is burying stories about the killings of these respectable blacks in order to focus on thugs? Somehow that doesn't seem to fit with their agenda.

Well it isn't that common. Sorry ,a few DOZEN over decades in such an overall large population isn't = to the word common. Yes the media tries to spin it every chance they get.

Today anyone with under 20 arrests is considered respectable.

And most were accidents not actually intentional. Also working and having a family doesn't make them innocent in every case. Plenty of criminals work and have families. John Gotti and his top hit men technically were hard working family men!

Darth Vader was technically a hard working( what is thy bidding master?) family man( Leia and Luke) .
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(12-24-2014 11:43 AM)TheBMan Wrote:  
(12-24-2014 11:11 AM)MidWest Wrote:  
(12-24-2014 09:47 AM)Pride male Wrote:  Seriously, what is going on in America with this cop shit? Is it grossly exaggerated or is it really racist cops running around beating minorities?


I'm not going to say that this Antonio Brown guy was innocent because obviously if you pull a gun out on a cop, chances are that you're going to get shot. I'm also not going to say that the verdict of the Michael Brown case was wrong since I'm not that studied well enough in the case to come to that conclusion. Although I do believe Eric Garner was murdered because of what I saw from the tape. But the jury has spoken.

To answer your question, America has had a history of police brutality and police aggressiveness towards minorities. Its not so much that cops go around beating minorities up, it has more to do with them being extra aggressive and racially profiling minorities which leads to incidents of this sort. From experience living in Chicago I do tend to notice that cops are way more aggressive and way more nasty and vile when it comes to dealing with minorities in economically deprived neighborhoods where many minorities live, its as if they are angry. They go into peoples houses without warrants and its just a bad environment of cops altogether. When I go to downtown Chicago, the cops there seem completely different in temperament and very nice.

Of course, I'm not saying all cops are bad, the majority of them aren't but there are some bad apples like with everything else. This is just based off my own experience having growing up in a Latino neighborhood.

Do you know why the cops profile? Because statistics prove that minorities, especially in poor areas, or much much more likely to commit a violent crime then an affluent white person. Its hard to blame anyone when they are just doing what is statistically proven to be accurate. I'm a tall white dude. If tall white dudes were blowing up planes would I get mad at TSA for giving me extra scrutiny every time I went through airport security? No, they would just be doing what is logical. I'd have to get mad at other tall white dudes who kept blowing up the damn planes.

So stats, are good basis to deny people their individual rights as citizens of the United States? There are a ton of crimes that are more likely to be performed by white people; anyone who lives in the suburbs knows that they are a haven for drugs, yet you tend to find most cops at Dunkin Donuts relaxing, while white kids are busy smoking weed and sniffing coke in the woods.

It's not so much that black people commit more crimes, most of us commit crimes in this country everyday that we could easily face jail time for, it's the simple fact that black people do not have the political leverage in poor cities to control the police that they have.
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