Post: #26

Metal is such a diverse realm. It attracts some of the most fucked up people you'll ever meet and some of the chillest.

Bands sing about fighting dragons, politics, butchering sluts and masturbating with their shit. Tons of bands are nazis and 90% of black metal is dudes making shit in their basement. This will affect no one.

Even though the scene has been invaded with dickless hipsters and scene queens trying to make metal politically correct is like trying to invade Russia in the winter.

I'll just leave some shit here:

Some nice tunes about fucking a chick with a videotape then raping them to death... or something.




Hung out with these guys and they're super cool, but they used to desecrate graves and do satanic rituals in ross bay Victoria




vocalist was a hardcore druggie for 30 years and married an 19 year old groupie.




This guy stabbed a member of another band a fuck ton of times, burnt down a church, 20 years in jail and I think hes a Nazi.




The live performances of this band involve the lead singer cutting himself and singing until he nearly bleeds out.




Thats not even scraping the surface and just a few from off the top of my head.

In short, this is laughable.

Post: #27

The real question is, what should the battle cry for metalheads be? My vote goes to Manowar, "Hail and Kill," with one of the greatest lyrics in all of music history:

"May your swords be wet - like a young girl in her prime. Hold... your... ha-mmers hiiiiiiiiiigh" Pure poetry.





Keep your swords wet, metalheads. This won't last long for the SJWs.

Post: #28

Here's how metalheads should respond:

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Post: #30

Some more fuel for the fire, with my favourite video of the year.

Post: #31

Since this thread is about posting the most politically incorrect metal vids, here is a gem:





NSFW! ^titties inside

Post: #32

(12-13-2014 03:28 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  Some more fuel for the fire, with my favourite video of the year.

Rock bottom: why Mastodon's misogynistic new video misfires

I thought metal music was edging away from a culture of crass sexism – but then I watched Mastodon’s new ‘satirical’ video



You may or may not have seen the new Mastodon video, The Motherload. The song itself is brilliant – the best one on the album by a mile, with a tune the size of Cthulhu’s balls – and the album has been a huge success, both commercially and critically. This video, however, is extremely confusing, particularly for those of us who regard ourselves as politically enlightened. Aside from the band miming gainfully along to their song, it features a startling and (almost) comically OTT quantity of large female bottoms and frenzied twerking, much as we might expect to see in one of those high budget hip-hop or pop videos. It is what those of us who lean to the left on such matters generally regard as “a bit sexist”. And I’m being generous to Mastodon here.

But no, Dom, I hear you cry, it’s not sexist. It’s funny! Look at those vibrating butt-cheeks! Brilliant. It’s probably ironic or something. Well, no. It’s still sexist. I don’t care how much irony you throw at this. It was sexist when it happened in past videos and it’s still sexist now. The fact that Mastodon are an ostensibly bright bunch and very much not from the heavy metal old school – where, back in the hallowed day, sexism was widely tolerated – is not a sufficient get-out clause by any stretch. Neither is this video excused from being tarred with the sexist brush because a proportion of women immersed in alternative culture have decided that it’s OK.

When Front magazine closed down a few months ago, there was a faintly hysterical online debate about its merits (or lack of them) and one of the things I kept reading was people defending the magazine’s principal diet of tattooed tits on the basis that providing pierced and Hitler-fringed teens with wank fodder was somehow not the same thing as what those awful, awful people at Nuts and Zoo did in their filthy rags. It was the same thing, obviously, but, you know, I was reliably informed that the girls’ personalities were given a chance to shine in Front … so, it’s different … or something. It wasn’t. I’d much rather people put their hands up and said: “Yeah, it’s sexist but I don’t give a shit!” rather than trying to make out that anyone who objects to this stuff is the enemy of fun and laughter or Millie Tant from Viz.

Just to make sure that it’s not just me being humourless, I had a quick look at the comments underneath the video on YouTube. Some generous soul was eloquently arguing that the video was “a satire”, ie that somehow this carnival of ululating chuffs was a searing mockery of sexism in popular culture. Anyone with half a brain knows that the vast majority of rap music that’s actually worth listening to seldom resorts to Benny Hill-esque visual tropes. Of course, if Mastodon – or the directors of the video, as seems more likely – are poking fun at hip-hop videos, then hooray for the brave white men lampooning the silly black women, right? I am now deafened by the sound of a giant can of worms being hacked open, so perhaps that’s a debate for another time. But following the outcry triggered by Lily Allen’s Hard out Here video, and Taylor Swift’s Shake It Off, did anyone involved in this thing expect its content and tone to be overlooked? Was there any thought involved in the whole process? I genuinely don’t know and it’s making my brain hurt.

While there are enough genuinely horrifying things happening in the world at the moment, without me getting stressed about a metal band’s poor creative decisions and low-rent sense of humour, it does irritate me, because heavy music has spent the last few decades steadily edging away from an overriding culture of crass misogyny and making the whole scene a lot more welcoming and palatable to women in the process. Twenty years ago, women were a tiny minority at metal shows but things have changed dramatically in recent times and metal is all the better for it.

Of course, one stupid video isn’t going to halt that progress. But I can’t help thinking that the whole tawdry episode is a terrible shame. If we’ve arrived at a place in the evolution of our culture where blatant, idiotic and utterly pointless sexism can be airily dismissed as “a bit of a laugh”, then clearly we have much further to go than previously thought.

Post: #33

This was the answer from one of the actual dancers in the video
Mastodon "The Motherload" and The Only Opinion That Counts

Quote:This week has been an interesting one. At the end of August, I danced with some friends for Mastodon’s new video, “The Motherload”. We were stoked about it. Twerking in a metal video?! Unheard of! We came from varying backgrounds, classical dancers, pole dancers, strippers all nervously waiting in the common area wondering how we’d all fit in. Well that was a piece of cake. As soon as the music played, we felt jazzed—in fact, they asked us if we’d prefer to dance to some hip-hop instead and then they’d remove the sound and add their track. We declined. We all waited patiently by our machines for weeks, waiting for the video to drop. It dropped Monday.
Within minutes of the video dropping, there was a serious backlash. While most people seemed to “get” the band’s shout out to their hometown, Atlanta, others called it racist and sexist. Some people even called us dirty niggers and whores. Funny, the most sexist and racist sentiments came not from filming the actual video, but from a subset of metal fans who thought we simply didn’t belong. If anything, the video shoot was welcoming, the band clever and pleasant, and the girls bonded almost the second the music dropped. Much like the band, we weren’t concerned with thin, knee-jerk reactions to asses and twerking.
We came across from different walks of life. Real deal ATL strippers joked with me—I’m a pole dance student with a background in African American literature and cultural theory, while my ballet dancer friend laughed with the other ladies, doing pirouettes in between takes. If you read the interview in which the band says that we were having fun with each other and not for the male gaze, you should know he was totally right. My other friend who is the best conglomeration of every dancer there—pole dancer, stripper, PhD in women’s lit and African American lit focus, and a dance instructor—could be the poster child of what this was. Women having fun with each other. Praising each other. A glimpse into what we do and that we are bigger than what we do.
One of the reasons this video, for me, is garnering so much attention is that truly the women are not just asses—and there are a lot of fantastic asses in the building—but shown as 3D people, which scares folk. Another is the concern for cultural appropriation. From us and from them. The fear of metal being “tainted”, the fear of the band using a dance form associated with black culture for their own gain. These fears boil down into my one response: we all belong. This band made it such that by the time the shoot was over, we all went home and got the track. (I’m playing it on the jukebox at my local bar as I write.) This video wasn’t a spoof or mocking or satire, in my opinion. The guys are ATL homegrown. As much as metal is in their bones, so is trap music, so is Old Fourth Ward, so is Magic City. They repped Georgia not out of exploitation, but because it resonates with them and is a part of them. This video proves that metal can reach out and can be reached out to without parody, without hierarchy, and it is a good thing.
Ask us if it was racist or sexist. We were the ones right there experiencing it. I’ll tell you from my view: no.
Best,
Jade

Post: #34

Bitches gonna burn...

Post: #35

Yeah, I saw the responses to the video when I was Googling trying to find out what the fuck was supposed to be going on. I felt a sense of relief when I learnt that it wasn't a satire or political commentary, and that in fact it really was as random as it first appeared.

Post: #36

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Post: #37

(12-13-2014 12:48 PM)runsonmagic Wrote:  I'm surprised. I assumed feminists wouldn't go after rap because they knew those guys wouldn't give a fuck. Now I know it's just because they're black. David Draimen (front man of Disturbed) has already come out in favor of #GamerGate. I hope to see those guys shred SJW like they do guitars. We'll see who in the metal scene is actually a pussy and who isn't.

Black feminists deal with rap/hip-hop, and they've consistently failed.

Post: #38

(12-13-2014 12:48 PM)runsonmagic Wrote:  I'm surprised. I assumed feminists wouldn't go after rap because they knew those guys wouldn't give a fuck. Now I know it's just because they're black. David Draimen (front man of Disturbed) has already come out in favor of #GamerGate. I hope to see those guys shred SJW like they do guitars. We'll see who in the metal scene is actually a pussy and who isn't.

That and Rap already had its "feminist movement" move against it back in the 90's. . .
I mean this was even before the internet, and all this backlash was on mainstream TV, EVERYBODY heard/knew about it and. . .

it did nothing in all actuality. I don't know if anyone remembered that, but yeah there was a huge backlash against rap, especially when rappers were referring to women as "bitches/hoes"and putting "objectified" women in their video Thing is, rappers kept rapping the same thing, and young women who were desperate for attention and Alpha cock lined up to get in those vids, and still do. There's this hot 8.5 Asian girl on my facebook feed that was bragging about the dance part she got in a rapper's vid. . .and yes she was dancing/dressed slutty etc. . .she got tons of comments from girls like "congrats" etc etc. . .

The only thing that really came out of that movement was the rise of "conscious rap". some good artists came out of that i.e. Talib Kweli, common (even though I REALLY don't like common), and Mf Doom/quasimoto. That genre of rap just doesn't sell as well as the mainstream "bitches and hoez" demographic does.

IF the feminists get anywhere with metal (that's a big IF since people after all are pretty much awake and tired of SJW bullshit after the recent gamergate/uva events etc)it would AT MOST, have the same impact as what happened with rap in the 90's. . .nothing at all.

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I'd post some Ax Cx but I don't want to get banned.

They trolled the sjw's in Massachusetts for years.

Post: #41

(12-13-2014 11:46 AM)Roosh Wrote:  It looks like SJW's didn't learn their lesson from gamergate and tried to pull the same tricks on the heavy metal community.

I brought this up a few weeks back: Music journalism has been thoroughly co-opted by SJW's for a few years now. Any millennial communications / journalism major is brainwashed by Critical Theory. I don't see this as a focused attack on metal, but part of the ongoing attack on all music that doesn't fit their sensibilities. (EDM has a 'troubling misogyny problem'; any straight guy singing about girls is 'creepy' and 'entitled' and 'misogynistic'; all rap is misogyny so the bisexual rapper must be praised to the heavens).

Since the majority of communication / journalism majors are female, they favour trite teenage pop music well into their 30's, which is why you're far more likely to see articles reading bullshit depth into Beyoncé and Taylor Swift than anything unfamiliar that might challenge them, such as metal.

Emboldened by Facebook shares and likes, the last few years has been a torrent of this shite in mainstream music journalism, to the extent I barely bother reading about music - one of my major life passions - anymore.

Everything is now misogynistic or cultural appropriation, unless it's white privileged hipsters like Vampire Weekend or privileged white girls like Meaghan Trainor, who are excused, for some reason. Working class kids with guitars have been completely-eradicated from the music dialogue; indie music is the domain of the previous dilettante children of rich parents; and all country music is something to be mocked as 'being for stupid people'.

I have this theory the insufferable, preachy PC nature of the third wave feminists in 90's grunge, punk and rock, killed rock music by making it moralistic and uncool, particularly with the feminist push into punk at the time, which is why we saw the rise of Nu-Metal and the resurgence of shiny pop music.

It's basically a 90's hangover that was made worse by sites like Pitchfork, (though I did laugh at Robert Christgau's put-down of indie Portland darlings The Decemberists: 'Not as smart as they think they are, but smarter than their fans').

Post: #42

Unrelated but a guy got on stage during a metal concert and tried to take a selfie. The guitarist kicked the phone out of his hand:

http://www.metalinjection.net/av/heres-w...i-die-show

Guitarist tweeted this:

Post: #43

the metal guys that would come to punk rock shows when I was a young lad were the type that invented choking girls during sex and I think kept the leather, whips and ball gag stores in business. I don't know how this can go over well...

Post: #44

(12-13-2014 01:57 PM)Santoro Wrote:  Anyone at a mainstream festival should have seen the writing on the wall.

Consider Coachella this year, Motorhead's set.

When Lemmy came out, the first ten rows were millennials telling people to 'stop moshing' so they could 'get a better view' and 'take pictures'

That shit lasted ten seconds.

Is there video of this? That sounds hilarious.

Post: #45

This is not so much about the metal music scene per se, but about them going after any cultural niche that is perceived as being too "masculine" or insufficiently compliant with the SJW-party line. Yesterday it was gamers, today it may be metal music, tomorrow it will be someone or something else.

The target may change, but the attacker is always the same SJW crusader. And the goal is to infiltrate, corrupt, and destroy any organization or subculture that does not adhere to the feminist/SJW/anti-male party line. It's that simple.

In this war, there will be surprises. Some subcultures that appear to be "hard" or "masculine" will collapse without much of a fight. Others will put a surprisingly strong and spirited defense. You will be surprised by what you see.

You can't really tell what a group is made of until they are confronted with a challenge to their existence.

And some will hit back with a ferocity that will send the SJW scum reeling.

Post: #46

Still reckon this is going to look like a Viking army breaking into the Vestal Virgins' dormitories.

Post: #47

(12-13-2014 01:27 PM)FilipSRB Wrote:  I'm just gonna put this here for the guys who are unaware about the types of people that can be found in the metal world:





This is gonna be beautiful.

It reminds me of the interrogation scene in The Dark Knight, when Jokers says to Batman "You have nothing, nothing to threaten me with, nothing to do with all your strength."

i watched the documentary before. That man's grandfather are such badasses for building a cabin so high up the mountain. The fortitude to do that is so remarkable.

Then near the end reporter asked a retarded question: "Do you ever feel lonely?" then he got ignored for the rest of the interview and that is the end of the interview.

Post: #48

I'm a metalhead. A very big metalhead. "Very big" as in I spend hours each day and most of money on metal.

Right now I am angry to the point of wanting to commit an act of violence.

Let's leave it at that.

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Post: #50

I'm strange. It seems all of my close friends are metal heads, except me. I don't really care for metal. Never found it fun to listen to, but every metal head i've ever talked to was by far super cognizant, self aware, and smart. Haven't met a metalhead I couldn't like.

Best of luck to them. They'll give these spineless twats a good run for their money.