Post: #51

(12-04-2014 07:48 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  I wonder how little dark would have handled this matter.

Edit: Holy crap kosko you are a talented fact finder.

By demolishing Murray and all his teammates. One after the other. Including Clay, because of course you would.

It will no doubt be in his autobiography.

Post: #52

Both guys fucked up, but Murray still fucked up the worst, I'm not backing off that. He is risking serious damage to his image and marketability. Endorsements are just the surface. Tony Parker like someone else mentioned was never looked at the same ever again. Who had more to lose? Murray. That is a total lapse in maturity. Worse than even anything Jameis Winston has done so far. Bad bad move, period.

Also Kosko, It's easy to say no sympathy, but at 21 were you any more smarter than this cat? I will be real with you, I think I was probably as stupid as this dude at 21. I'm sure you made some bad moves when you were beta like back in the day. Young dudes make bad moves. Young, dumb and full of cum? At least he can learn his lesson at 21 with no kids, and slide out relatively unharmed. He better divorce her before the draft. This is his redpill moment. How he responds to it is what is truly important. He is now on the clock. Murray pulled a bitch move that even for a blue pill person is beyond idiotic. He is severely lacking in judgement and decision making.

I understand some players have dark triad qualities that fuck anything attractive enough to spread legs no questions asked, but what kind of player is more socially dynamic? The ones that don't fuck up their own social circles, just to get a nut? Who was really the thirstiest? Just because Murray hit it first does not mean shit.

We need to stop slamming young betas so hard. These young men are the future, whether we like it or not. If that Clay cat comes across this forum, I welcome him in to come in here and learn.

Post: #53

Kudos to Clay for taking the red pill and dumping the slut wife. Can't turn a Ho into a Housewife. It's gonna cost him a bit of money, but that's hella cheaper than if he had a kid with her and/or got a serious NFL contract later on.

Murray got dinged a little, but he's a single guy. Yes, he knocked up a girl but had enough sense to not wife her up.

This drama is simple tabloid fodder. It won't have any impact on their careers, as long as they produce on the field.

Post: #54

(12-04-2014 07:03 PM)monster Wrote:  I think this broad is fucking hot. I don't get where some are saying weird face. I fucking love how she looks. With boobs she'd be a 10 in looks in my book.

(12-04-2014 05:07 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  The Italian Mafias even thought cheating with another's wife was grounds to get wacked for a litany of reasons. It undermines the team or organization in that case, by spreading seeds of foment among members.

I hear you Kai but I think the world's changed a lot from a decade or two ago. In the business world, no longer if you work for a company for 30+ years are you guaranteed continued employment or retirement. In sports, the rise in free agency has made for an every man for himself attitude as more important than the team itself. Hell, in marriage, husbands and wives can't and won't trust each other anymore (as has been discussed to death in this forum).

It seems that group cohesion and team player are just window dressing terms in this day & age, and the alphas of any team are more loyal to where the money takes them than to the team itself (not just sports, but every organization).

That's irrelevant man. Just because the world is full of beta bitch men, does not mean we have to switch our hips, talk with a fag lisp, and dress in lumbersexual clothes. We are in this world, not of it. We make our own path.

Just because a company is not loyal to anyone anymore, does not mean that one should fuck around the office with reckless abandon. There is enough pussy outside the office. No need for that. If you need that job until you can move on to the next level, maintain your professionalism and get what you need out of that job first. Gotta play the game until you get what you need first.

Free agency is not an excuse to smear your name as a homewrecker and fuck up potential endorsement money, over some fuggin MILF pussy. That is a lack of focus. Athletes need to look at the big picture. These guys are walking corporations. They represent themselves. If this was Richard Sherman instead, Campbells soup may not want to sign him up for next year soup commercials. Dudes gotta think with the right head about these things. RBs are not paid like other skill positions. Can't do stuff like that.

Trust in marriages that are doomed from jump street (blue pill marriages), should have no bearing on your future one or any other's plans to do that. We know why theirs are fucking up. Knowing is always half the battle. But again, why should we let what the others with wool over their eyes determine what we do? Why should DeMarco allows his carnal desires to risk losses of thousands of dollars in endorsements? All that is cognitive dissonance. Dudes need to be about their business. Life is hard enough, and last time I checked taxes are still a bitch on their paychecks, why toss your enemies a loaded pistol to perform additional harm on you?

Post: #55

Blase reaction. I've seen this stuff far too many times. Just another symptom of the degenerate times we currently live in.

I have to wonder if my level of detachment is more a good or bad thing. Hmm

Post: #56

(12-04-2014 07:55 PM)Grange Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 07:46 PM)Enigma Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 07:24 PM)kosko Wrote:  Played football half of my life. I understand the culture...

They were my brothers but I can't say I knew every and all of the 40 men well, I had my main brothers but I respected them as equal men. I can only talk to myself that I wouldn't do what Murray did, but I ain't going to slag the man when its obvious this Clay dude was a fool from the start in dealing with his woman.

We all know she's a whore, the question I presented was whether Murray should have fucked her or not. You just agreed that he shouldn't have, so I'm not sure why the rest of that post was necessary.

Quote:People really trying to defend this weak dude Clay in any way?

No one has defended him. You're arguing yourself in circles.

It looks like this kid cut in line. Murray owes him nothing.

He did.

This woman already had a life established in Dallas, her ex was from Texas, and moved her down there, she had family there with that man and was established already with all her baggage and drama after the fact. Where did this guy think he was going to fit in?

She has been circling the Cowboys since 2009:


^ her own picture of field from level suites at Cowboys Stadium (2009).

^Her baby daddy was successful and likely had good seats and access with the team. For him being a local Texan and Dallas native with hefty bankroll it was DHV to be in that new stadium and close to the team at any time, but especially with the new Stadium opening in 2009. She likely started to hover towards the players from that starting point and that was that (bad picture of the two, but only one I could find without any kids in it).

She starts getting close to the team, close to this...


And next minute she be like....

"Oh I like that chocolate tee hee"

Plus she is a old ass woman. 26 is being generous since she looks good for her age but she has obviously had work done. Her tits are fake and she likely has done face work, or at the minimum those micro peels which explains the "weird" look we all see with her face (over polished and stretched). Its off because she has fooled father time quite well. Her good friend from Michigan turned 24 in 2005/2006. This is her friend and the slut in question (far right) at a Tigers game in 2005:

^ She still looks older in that photo from close to 10 years ago. If she is close to her good friends age then she is likely 29-32 :


This young boy Clay came out of nowhere. Literally. And she gamed him like a limp legged Elk being shot while its wounded already, it wasn't a fair match. She likely got sloppy with her tricks once he got cut and his NFL payday was put on hold.

Post: #57

Hey kosko, if I ever piss you off can you give me a warning or let us come up with some sort of offline settlement? Damn strong investigation skills.

Post: #58

(12-03-2014 06:03 PM)kosko Wrote:  Usually the spawn slows down these women and make them get some perspective and try to lock down a provider so their kids and her live good but she couldn't even do that.

The problem is , it is only happens when the women end up very trashed and fat after popping out kids, women like this knows the sexual market value more than your typical single mom that is over 200 pounds and want you to wife her up, these types of girls start hitting the gym and doing diet because they know the body is theirs biggest asset, this is not different than a man lifting,earning money, and learning game on order to rise his value.

(12-04-2014 10:36 AM)Enigma Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 06:03 PM)kosko Wrote:  Out of all of this DeMarco Murray comes out ahead.

I completely disagree.

This guy is the starting RB for the Dallas Cowboys. He could have gotten those nuts anywhere.

Instead, he chose to have an ongoing affair with a friend and former teammate's long-term gf/wife (depending on when the cheating started).

First of all, this invites a huge level of unnecessary drama into his life.

Second and most importantly, there's extreme lack of character shown.

People who didn't play sports may not relate, but these stories of teammates fucking each other's main squeeze absolutely disgust me.

I'm all for man whoring it up and, like many of you, have smashed "committed" women in the past. But I can't even imagine doing that to someone I played with or a close friend.

From what I gather, they only played together for a year. But playing the same position, they still would have spent a LOT of time together, shared a ton of hardship, and as an older and established player, Murray no doubt served as something of a mentor, evidenced by Clay's comments.

That shit is really low to start regularly smashing his wifey after all that.

(12-04-2014 12:15 PM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  I'm all for man whoring it up and, like many of you, have smashed "committed" women in the past. But I can't even imagine doing that to someone I played with or a close friend.
^^^
Not to mention he's probably poisoned his social circle at OU

Former players and coaches alike will be whispering about how bogus this was on his behalf

If anything - he should have been pulling this guy's coat to this hoe's looseness from an older brother prospective

Since he went the Tony Parker route - he will have to endure the stares and guys pulling their wives in closer when he's out with his teammates.

Bro before hoes?



Mesh velvet dress, I consider that dress the "slut-pump and dump" dress, very common in big cities nigh clubs.

Post: #59

Nice analysis Kosko, but I don't think that the white dude is her baby daddy. Especially the oldest child, unless dude secretly has Black American genetics. Looked at some of her pics with them: those kids' father is a black man.

She also had the baby about 3 months after she got married to her first husband. I think we know the story here.

Post: #60

Does this bitch paint on a mole under her eyes? Or maybe one or two of the pics have been flipped or I am seeing shit cause it is late. In most pics she has a mole under her right eye. In others it is under her left. And still in others it isn't there at all?

WTF?
'

Me, I WB but only if Anal was on the table. Single mom pussy grosses me out.

Post: #61

WB but i'd have to avoid looking at those eyebrows, holy shitballs.

Post: #62

(12-05-2014 02:31 AM)Troll King Wrote:  Does this bitch paint on a mole under her eyes? Or maybe one or two of the pics have been flipped or I am seeing shit cause it is late. In most pics she has a mole under her right eye. In others it is under her left. And still in others it isn't there at all?

WTF?
'

Me, I WB but only if Anal was on the table. Single mom pussy grosses me out.

hmm thats very interesting. good eye

Post: #63

God damn Kosko, we should start a breitbart style website haha

Post: #64

she looks like a transsexual. she looks like a slight, camera-hungry gay man in women's clothes, a wig and some (totally spherical, shaped-as-if-drawn-by-an-adolescent-boy) tits.

Post: #65

If they're snap chats with the front camera it shows a reflection vs the back camera shows everything the way it is. Maybe that has something to do with it.

Post: #66

Here's the text messaging



The girl saved his number under "Spray Tan" in her phone lolol

Post: #67

This Clay's Twitter is a mess right now. Their relationship history can only be traced back as far as April 2014 so they would of only met from March-April as Clay had OU commitments and prep for the Combine in January and February. So this man married a woman he met in March.. 4 months later. Keep that all in mind while you read the rest.

I have yet to see any disrespect from him to his wife referring to him as her "roommate". These two live together in Uptown Dallas, not a cheap area, but hey at least she had the decency to not fuck another man in her husbands bed, but she couldn't even admit to whom the man was. .. How considerate of her..:dodgy: When I scanned the social networks of them all last night I found evidence that he found out as early as November 18th of his wife fucking around. Next, he did not go 'public' on social media with it, his close circle were giving messages of support on his instagram and twitter as he dropped pseudo-emotional posts pointing to making "bad choices in life" and relationship infidelity. But he did not put things out on blast like he did early this week, so he has know this for a around 2 weeks and likely had a behind the door confrontation with his wife, we hope.

So again I ask. If DeMarco just sees some young ass dude (he is only 22) chilling with her and he isn't informed they serious.. like that.. (because what kind of man would move to a random city, and wife up quickly a woman with two random children?). Who is really the fool?

But let me confirm this for timelines for the text posted. He would of been called for workouts AFTER he was cut by the Broncos in August, with this posted text being from October when he was called for workouts, barley 4 months into the marriage. So she is massively disrespecting her husband calling him her "roommate" since they were married in July. But, this also means that she did not inform DeMarco that she was a married or kept woman. While she gave the impression she was single. DeMarco likely thought young dude (remember this woman is older, at least 29) was hitting it on the side and getting thirsty trying to take care of her kids.

Next, this man was dropping this shit DURING while Demarco Murray was playing his game last night vs the Bears (he had a great game too). So the man, he has it out for DeMarco, more then he does his slutty wife, whom can't even refer to him as his husband.

Can we even shame a man for fucking a woman he did not know was kept? Any man can play dumb, but if you see some soft beta dude chilling with a pretty girl for scraps and she does not acknowledge him as nothing what do you think? You think nothing aside that she is being shady, but it is easy to think nothing of the loser dude which is what he is. I can't picture DeMarco being that dumb but if he only sees this girl for dick training then what other times would he care to question or dig deep into her life.

This is why I say this "bond" between Clay and DeMarco is overblown by Clay and bullshit. Why? Because...How can a woman keep hidden a man whom she is married too, to a man whom is supposedly "tight" and close with her husband as far back as school? Lets think about that for a second... Well, she can't. Remember Clay professed himself that Murray and him were "tight", "hand a "bond", almost brothers, all types of BS, but yet he had no direct way to inform this man that he was married to this woman? Its all BS. SHE was the link the bridged the relationship back, not him. She was in the middle.

[...All the teammates and old coaches I personally was good friends or just close with I know what they are doing, even if its just via Facebook I keep up with them getting jobs or having families. The ones I wasn't close with I have no idea... ]

Since the start I have been saying Clay is butt hurt and full of shit and he is exposing himself more by acting out on a emotional rollercoster publicly.

Its getting too wild for me. This dude is beyond a scorned husband and is now just overall jealous. DeMarco is everything Clay wants to be now and is fucking the woman he attempted to marry and lock down.

This is butt hurt beta x 10000. This might be the best example in a long time of a real cuckold. She viewed him as nothing more then a provider, not worthy of sex. DeMarco fucked her... Clay helped raised the kids and pay the bills. If anybody has never had any experience in a close social circle or sadly your own prior experience with a brazzen women whom exploits a man for resources and shows him no love or sex and cuckolds him then please follow this story as it continues on as it would give you a prime example of the types of men whom set bear traps for themselves in dealing with this bad types of women.

Clay is a piece of shit. What man would even think of marrying a worthless woman almost 10 years older then you with fatherless spawns, only after 4 months of knowing her. It is simply to hard to understand and no defense can even back it up. Which is why he is throwing bombs at Murray as a means to protect himself.

Its really amazing. The man deserves a award. Easily Beta of the Year for me right now.

Post: #68

Lol. Dam! This is hoe class 101. I have never seen a bro lover look that dam provocative but yet again, I'm not black (I am Mexican but look very Middle Easternish). I rate her an 8 but she's too provocative and attention whorish for my taste.

epic post Kosko, especially on the part where you said she's as good in finding black men like the Ferguson Police.

Post: #69

If that is really true that she hid who Clay was from Demarco, then that puts DeMarco in the clear I suppose. Clay being beta of the year? Nah. Beta/Simp Athlete of the Year? Maybe. He is definitely in the top 5 nominees. He is another example of a clueless beta that bit off way more than he could chew. Guys want Ferrari, Vipers, <insert other fast sports cars> cars, but cannot drive a stick shift or even handle the torque pulls. When they wreck pulling out of the driveway (the equivalent of a 4 month marriage), we should not get all that surprised.

His sour grapes towards Demarco needs to be fixed by the fellas close to him. This is one of those "Hate the game, not the player" situations. Being jealous of other men when you were out of your league in the first place, is out of line. This does not mean he cannot keep a woman prettier than her, she as a total package is too much for him. Most golddiggers are out of the league of men who are barely on the squad of any NFL team. Now that I realize that he is some undrafted player from last year's draft. He really should have kept his mouth fucking shut. If anyone wants to know how badly NFL teams hate dramatic young men, see Tim Teebow, Michael Sam, etc. He might be able to get past it, but he better stfu quickly and drop it.

Also I think this woman was looking to upgrade by any means necessary. Some of us know how to string along golddiggers without ever commiting to them and those bitches will cling on to an alpha for dear life regardless. That does not mean that they would not jump ship if a ring was offered. Women constantly think they can change a man. They almost always lose, but they are hardwired to try it anyway.

Post: #70

(12-05-2014 10:26 AM)richler Wrote:  

she looks like a transsexual. she looks like a slight, camera-hungry gay man in women's clothes, a wig and some (totally spherical, shaped-as-if-drawn-by-an-adolescent-boy) tits.

I wholeheartedly agree. She's a typical American woman who gained weight in her 20s then went full bore on the weights and cardio to to get slim, but ends up looking like a dude. She's got a very masculine/muscular vibe to her for sure. Almost a complete lack of femininity and grace about her.

I realize it's pretty bad in the US but this type of women is what athletes are wifing up and being deemed "8's" by many? Ughhh.

Re Kosko's research and work it's top notch we should give him some sort of internet private eye award well done!

Post: #71

Guys great work on finding the pics and info..... Let this be a lesson to all,don't marry anything that has her background.

I hope the fella learns his lesson and keeps girls like this for a booty call. Wifey material is hard to come by.

Post: #72

kosko on point.

Does anyone believe the tits are real? 2 kids, late 20s, and was formerly fat? 100% they're fake.

Post: #73

(12-05-2014 04:58 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  Does anyone believe the tits are real? 2 kids, late 20s, and was formerly fat? 100% they're fake.

of course they're not. Did someone say they were?

Post: #74

This thread has been nothing short of educational. I started thinking of a venomous spider wanting to eat its own young after mating with the father or some shit. This should be a sticky in a FAQ thread for lessons in super sloot hypergamy and how aware you must be of the darkest parts of a female's nature.

Post: #75

Last night when Clay drops those texts on Twitter. His wife Gina steps out to the club after the Dallas Cowboys big win. She posts this video on Instagram..





She does not give any fucks about the man.

Her Michigan is showing though, she got no moves on the dance floor. Stiff as a brick.

She hot in that video. I'd smash.