Post: #1

Hey lads,

I've got a text question for you guys about a girl I've been dating, and which I have mentioned in a previous post (Here). After being quite persistent I managed to bang her. She is game aware, sneaky as fuck, and she can outmaneuver me every time; as a joke I've said once that I'm learning game with her on Legendary mode. After some fuck ups, due to lack of good inner game, I am in her frame, and I've been since trying as best as I can to get her on mine.

Last night we were texting. I said I had a rough day to which sent me a clip of a labrador assing around to try and get me to laugh. I told her I didn't like Labs. The conversation went on about how she couldn't believe I didn't like them, etc. She eventually said as a joke: I don't know if I want to keep you in my contacts list. To which I replied: Ok. It won't be long lasting though...

She has already done that, to which I usually just respond Ok. After a couple of days she starts texting again. This time with "It won't be long lasting though..." I kind of feel like it was maybe a bit too cocky and confident about her texting me back. I feels like I should apologise, or just saying "Ok, I was a dick", in a couple days time. However, I don't see this as being the right move as it is a chance to get her on my frame, and by apologising I would just fall back into hers. I know she is stubborn as hell, and might not text me back just to prove a point.

Any suggestions?

I should mention that even though she has a hard time admitting it, she likes me, and I do like her.

Thanks in advance

Post: #2

I don't think I understand the situation. You banged her once? Or you see her and bang her regularly?

That post you linked was over 2 months ago. How many times have you banged this girl since then? How much time do you spend together?

I don't see what you would need to apologize for anyway, but I'll address that once I have a better picture of what's going on.

Post: #3

(11-25-2014 10:53 AM)Dom Filipe Wrote:  "she is stubborn as hell"

That's all we need to know. NEXT!

Post: #4

There should be a sticky on this forum that says:

"If you write a post that asks how to win the affections of one girl you're dating, then you've already lost your frame."

Obviously, asking advice about how to handle one girl and showing regret about something you did means you're too invested in the outcome to experiment and take risks. Especially when you're worried about how she responds to something as trivial as a text message.

Many of us are doing the work, building a pipeline of options, trying new things, experimenting. We don't have the time to think about how to recoup an experience with one girl, especially one we've already banged...

That's the cold hard truth guys have to learn if they're ever going to get good at this.

When I'm out at target practice, I don't think a whole lot about the shots I've missed. There are a lot of shots to take and a lot of opportunities to get better at this.

Post: #5

You lost your frame awhile back, and hell no don't apologize !

Radio silence, let her come to you, it's your only play, or next her like engineer said.

Post: #6

Don't apologize. What you said to her wasn't bad at all. You already know the answer and what to do, but you're worried you don't have enough personal power to stick to it where this woman is concerned.

You're too scared to lose her. If she's so stubborn that she will throw away a good relationship to prove a point, then let her. Her point really is that if you don't agree with her and subscribe to her beliefs then she is going to Next you (Remove you from her Contacts list).

That's her loss, not yours. Stay strong and instead of "Nexting" her, use her as practice in controlling your frame. First of which is going silent and letting her crawl back to you.

Tame that fucking shrew!

Post: #7

Apologize for what? Jokingly saying she wouldn't delete you for long? It sounds like she constantly threatens to remove you as a contact if you don't behave like a good boy and defer to princess. You laughed it off/ignored it.

Post: #8

Okay, well, those guys said more or less what I was going to say. You're way too invested in this chick and it sounds like she's jerking you around. When a girl is really into you, she'll move mountains for a taste of your dick, not play stupid games.

I wouldn't say ditch her entirely but put your efforts into other girls. She's probably fucking other guys, and you should just put her on the 3rd string "shit, my plans fell through, let's see if this girl is DTF tonight" list.

Post: #9

Apologize for what?

You dis the chick that's trying to make you feel better, and she still wants to make contact with you?

YOU HAVE THE UPPER HAND!

You need to reward her good behavior (a scolded dog returning to her master) with some sex and maybe some dinner. (depending on her waist size)

Next time you guys are out hand in hand, look her dead in the eye, and tell her, "I like you" and smirk + squeeze of the hand.

Furthermore, your micro-attention to these bullshit text conversations will be the death of your upper hand.

WIA

Post: #10

As others have said, you are too invested in her.

Invite her over to meet or give her a call. You don't need to necessarily apologize, but as you're talking (not texting) just casually compliment her or tell her you were joking.

As an aside, always be careful with being cocky/funny over e-mail or text. Context, body language and vocal tonation matter, and all of that is lost in text.

Post: #11

Thanks for the advice guys!

As you have all understood, I am far too invested in this girl; she is first girl that I have actually had any feelings for, which out of the roughly 20 notches made the sex the most pleasurable I've had. I'm guessing that is what is fucking my head as well.

To give you a better picture of the scenario, and it is actually quite embarassing to admit it, in these two months I've only banged her once. I've been to her place since, first I didn't bang but slept over, and second time could have banged but ended not; went down on her, made her squirt, but was getting late and needed to wake up early so I headed home.

We are generally quite busy with our lives and normally it's only on the weekend that I have time; she knows this, and yet she doesn't put in the effort to be together. She does however put in the effort in seeing me; she comes to my office after work to spend some time with me, we walk around the city, but getting myself into her place is a struggle, plus she refuses to come to mine with a bullshit excuse. So as weambulance said, she is jerking me around, and if she really were into me she would move mountains for a taste of my dick.

Even though we had agreed on not dating other people, this is not sustainable, and I highly doubt that she'll keep her end of the bargain. On an earlier occasion she has said that as long as I don't bang her girlfriends, I am allowed to bang other girls, as long as she doesn't know about it; I can rationalise this as keeping my end of the bargain.

I am tempted on just Nexting her, but I am actually learning quite a lot. As Onto suggested, I'll use this as practice in controlling my frame; even though I am struggling and in agony.

I already have a couple of other girls in the pipeline to distract me with; so I'll just wait for her to crawl back.

Again thank you very much. Your support and advice is priceless.

Post: #12

Why would you ever apologise to a woman? She'll get over it, they always do...

Post: #13

do not ever apologize to a girl.

Post: #14

How old are you? This is exhausting just to read. I couldn't imaging dealing with this in my forties. But maybe if I was 22 and she was a hot 21-year-old I could. Actually years ago, I did deal with women like this. I wish I had taken it a whole lot less seriously, looking at what such women became.

My main point is that any girl that is "sneaky" and "game aware" and requires a ton of effort, is not one you want to consider any type of relationship with, esp. long-term. This is a sex buddy or "once in a while" deal.

When you have to worry about a woman like you would a ten-year-old child, that's the time to get your mind looking elsewhere. Because -- from experience -- I've found this type of woman will seep into your life, drain your energy, and wreck your personal and/or business life.

I've seen women like this grow old, and they never quite understand why men don't stick around. This post, to me, explains why. You would probably drop any of us as a friend if we were "sneaky" and difficult. I would think twice about how much you want to think about this woman.

So, I guess my advice is don't worry about the apology. Worry instead about where you'll find a girl who'll be easygoing and make you feel comfortable, not agitated.

Post: #15

Don't apologize to a bitch unless you would apologize to a man in the same situation.

Post: #16

what do you actually want with her in the first place?

Post: #17

Case of Oneitis i will call it, have a Harem of hew bishes and bang them regularly and if one starts to act up like this one, replace her Ass with a better one.

When you have a few bishes in your rotation you wouldn't even consider aplogizing, you non-chalance and don't give a fuck attitude will exude by itself in your texts and in person.

Happu hunting .......