Post: #1

Nothing earth-shattering here but I wanted to add this to the collective pool of game knowledge.

I banged a 25-year-old, good-looking virgin this year. I banged her and took her cherry, and since then I've banged her several times more.

Apart from the narcissistic pleasure of popping the cherry of an attractive, intelligent, decent-value girl, I got to thinking about the overall value that it brought to my life.

Banging her was a chore, especially at first. Virgins are not trained in their sexuality. They don't know what turns them on. They don't know what turns others on, at least during intercourse. At times, I was doing things more or less right, but her inexperience led me to believe that I was doing something wrong or inadequately. There were some awkward fumbles - I chalk this up more to her not knowing how to have sex than to any inadequacy on my part.

Reflecting on it now, I received significantly less pleasure from banging her (even after several bangs) than I have from some of my other girls.

I realize that I actually would have preferred her to have been more experienced, to have more sexual partners. Probably at least three would be good but really more like five or 10.

In brief, it's kind of interesting to take someone's cherry, but all things being equal my life would be better served by banging girls with a fair amount of sexual partners and sexual experience. Probably no more than 10 sexual partners, after which point I would imagine that she becomes somewhat desensitized to the value of a male sexual partner, and any benefits of being more sexually inexperienced are outweighed by her slut quotient.

Post: #2

how on earth did she get to 25 years old in the usa while being hot? was she a miserable bitch with a toxic personality?

Post: #3

She's somewhat of a church girl, not really a prude (she'd had boyfriends) and she drinks enough, but no drugs. She'd never felt comfortable sleeping with someone until now. She's not quite hot but still fairly good-looking.

Also, she's not from the USA. She grew up in the DR, and is black - black girls in the DR receive far less attention than lighter-skinned girls.

Post: #4

(11-21-2014 12:25 AM)eradicator Wrote:  how on earth did she get to 25 years old in the usa while being hot? was she a miserable bitch with a toxic personality?

That's what I'm thinking lol. I know some hot girls (up to 8/10) who are still virgins at like 20, but 25 is some crazy shit.

I've popped a few cherries, and none of them were particularly enjoyable experiences for me as well. Honestly unless the girl is desperate to lose her v plates and is willing to give it up fast (in which case she's probably unattractive anyway) putting in all the time and dates needed to make her give her virginity and then train her to actually become good in bed just isn't worth it.

Post: #5

(11-21-2014 12:32 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 12:25 AM)eradicator Wrote:  how on earth did she get to 25 years old in the usa while being hot? was she a miserable bitch with a toxic personality?

That's what I'm thinking lol. I know some hot girls (up to 8/10) who are still virgins at like 20, but 25 is some crazy shit.

I've popped a few cherries, and none of them were particularly enjoyable experiences for me as well. Honestly unless the girl is desperate to lose her v plates and is willing to give it up fast (in which case she's probably unattractive anyway) putting in all the time and dates needed to make her give her virginity and then train her to actually become good in bed just isn't worth it.

Interesting because some advice that I've read in the manosphere (I forget who - it may have been Rollo) say that if you're looking for someone to LTR and have kids with, you should aim for a virgin, or as close as possible to it.

Then you can make her your sex slave, a sex slave for you and you only.

But I think that realistically it's probably better if she's had at least a few sexual partners, so that she is better at it. You're the last chance that she (hopefully) will have to learn.

Post: #6

Sex is like dancing. Who would you have more fun dancing with: a girl that has never danced or a one that likes to dance and is good at it? The only real pleasure a virgin brings is the psychological pleasure of being able to say you where her first. Personally, I don't like virgins it's too much work on all levels for too little real pleasure. I would rather the whore than the virgin simply because I like my sex too be good the same way I like my dancing.

If you want a girl to stick around you can't do it with just sex. It doesn't matter who she is you are going to get tired fucking her then what are you going to do then? To get a girl to stick around you need to bind her emotionally to you. Use to be that sex was a good way to do that, not so much anymore.

Post: #7

(11-21-2014 01:11 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  Sex is like dancing. Who would you have more fun dancing with: a girl that has never danced or a one that likes to dance and is good at it? The only real pleasure a virgin brings is the psychological pleasure of being able to say you where her first. Personally, I don't like virgins it's too much work on all levels for too little real pleasure. I would rather the whore than the virgin simply because I like my sex too be good the same way I like my dancing.

If you want a girl to stick around you can't do it with just sex. It doesn't matter who she is you are going to get tired fucking her then what are you going to do then? To get a girl to stick around you need to bind her emotionally to you. Use to be that sex was a good way to do that, not so much anymore.

I'll add a story to this. I think the whole virgin thing was pretty cementing for an LTR in the past as well, but not so much in modern times on its own. It needs to be combined with some sort of religious or conservative conviction.

Why? Things like porn, 50 shades of grey etc. just makes chicks too curious. A virgin bangs her first partner, she gets a taste for sex and thinks "well that was good, i wonder what the other kinds are like?" and porn makes those options readily available to explore, without any shame.

In my case, a married girl I knew, had only slept with her husband and then at some point became a porn fiend, then eventually became curious, and then met someone like me at the time who had a 'dark triad' way of thinking where I enjoyed 'corrupting' women and tipping them into the abyss. A little bit of leading her curiosity led to her cheating on her husband with me, doing all sorts of depraved things and expanding even further into looking for threesomes. Once she had 'done it all' it became less novel for her and she went back to her husband.

Banging a virgin and LTR'ing her means that you're going to have to deal with her curiosity phase, and I think she's a high slut/cheating risk until she's through that.

Post: #8

I've taken a least 3 v-cards in my time. While not anything to cry home about, I have the patience and enjoy helping her explore her sexuality.

Being a more experienced man makes the experience that much more intense for her. You lead the way and direct the entire operation. Tell her what you enjoy and teach her. Remember that sex for the first time is over hyped in her mind. Do everything you can to get her off and dominate her. On all 3 girls, I went down on their and got them off. After that it's all psychological which every sexual experienced girl craves.

For me, it took about 2-3 months of consistent banging for them to be up to par sexually. Around that time, they know how to angle their butt for doggy, ride both front and reverse cowgirl, and know how to angle their legs to make missionary more interesting. Basic stuff a girl should know how to contort her body for.

I don't really care for blow jobs or anal though. Blow jobs are more of a foreplay than getting off thing for me. The only tip I have for that is to have her watch a video of a porn star giving a blow job. That seems to give them the idea of how a proper one works.

Post: #9

I think I took a chicks virginity once...

Overall reminds me of some of the gorgeous women I know and have hooked up with. There is a FEW who are just so hot and insecure that they might as well be virigins in terms of their sexuality. While it wasn't generally BAD, if you compare it to the chicks who really like sex, it's like "wow I can never have sex any other way". Anytime I say that I get flashbacks of being drunk in a pitchblack living room fucking this 1 chick missionary passionately despite my knees burning on the carpet. Later on we end up breaking her bed. While she never had much sex (she was super tight and apologized...um ok) she was very sexual.

If I found out a chick was a virgin I wouldn't bother personally.

Post: #10

(11-21-2014 11:44 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 01:11 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  Sex is like dancing. Who would you have more fun dancing with: a girl that has never danced or a one that likes to dance and is good at it? The only real pleasure a virgin brings is the psychological pleasure of being able to say you where her first. Personally, I don't like virgins it's too much work on all levels for too little real pleasure. I would rather the whore than the virgin simply because I like my sex too be good the same way I like my dancing.

If you want a girl to stick around you can't do it with just sex. It doesn't matter who she is you are going to get tired fucking her then what are you going to do then? To get a girl to stick around you need to bind her emotionally to you. Use to be that sex was a good way to do that, not so much anymore.

I'll add a story to this. I think the whole virgin thing was pretty cementing for an LTR in the past as well, but not so much in modern times on its own. It needs to be combined with some sort of religious or conservative conviction.

Why? Things like porn, 50 shades of grey etc. just makes chicks too curious. A virgin bangs her first partner, she gets a taste for sex and thinks "well that was good, i wonder what the other kinds are like?" and porn makes those options readily available to explore, without any shame.

In my case, a married girl I knew, had only slept with her husband and then at some point became a porn fiend, then eventually became curious, and then met someone like me at the time who had a 'dark triad' way of thinking where I enjoyed 'corrupting' women and tipping them into the abyss. A little bit of leading her curiosity led to her cheating on her husband with me, doing all sorts of depraved things and expanding even further into looking for threesomes. Once she had 'done it all' it became less novel for her and she went back to her husband.

Banging a virgin and LTR'ing her means that you're going to have to deal with her curiosity phase, and I think she's a high slut/cheating risk until she's through that.

There is so much truth in this post it should be cast in bronze.
There is a curiosity phase that occurs. Some dabble and some don't.Some resent the fucking hell out of their spouse because their own body is screaming to taste strange dick. The wise ones give in, get over it and get back to business without much collateral damage.
I went through this phase at 34 as a man. I just went out and fucked a stripper (outside the US of course) and came back. Sometimes we just have to deal with things like an adult.

Post: #11

A lot of these posts are interesting to me because I'm also kind of into virgins - 9 so far - but I have to say I disagree with you guys a little bit...or at least I think we have very different goals in terms of what we're looking for.

Of course a virgin is going to be bad in bed. That's a given. And yes it's going to take a lot of time to bring her up to speed. But in my case, that's basically the last thing I want. I'm not looking to necessarily sleep with a girl more than a couple times. I'm basically just looking for notches. And a virgin is kind of like a notch+ because it's rare. In terms of the quality of sex - how experienced she is, how good she is, etc. - I really couldn't care less.

In fact, I actually prefer inexperienced girls. This might be because I only sleep with Asian girls, and I've probably been conditioned by Asian porn to expect the girls to be passive. And that whole idea of the girl who is young, inexperienced and maybe not even super excited for you to sleep with her in the first place - aka a virgin/virginal-type girl - is my biggest turn on.

Anyhow, thanks for creating this topic. Good stuff!

Post: #12

Well, it comes down to why we do anything. Are we doing it to validate ourselves or are we doing it because we truly enjoy the experience. All types of "notches" or scores are about validation. Once we no longer need to validate ourselves we begin to seek real experiences. It's like the person that visits countries just to say the have visited a country. They don't care about the actually country they just want to tell people they have been there. When you truly enjoy something, like sex for example, then you want the best experiences. I can't even remember most of the girls I have slept with because the experience was basically a non-event. But the ones that were really good, I never forget. And those I can count on both hands.

Post: #13

I had a LTR with a Chinese girl, 23, that was a virgin. Terrible sex. Horrible. Everything else was good but I broke up with her over that.

Huge amounts of Chinese girls have no sex drive, never masterbate, have no sexual fantasies. Many Chinese go to boarding schools where they live 4-8 students in what would be a small bedroom in the States. Shower together, no alone time. Never touch themselves.

Having sex with these girls (most Chinese girls, in my opinion) is so bad unless I havent had sex in a while.

The virgin girl kept pushing me away with her legs, wouldnt angle her body at all, but kept being bitchy "why aren't you having sex with me? What's wrong, why aren't you excited? blah blah". So I eventually just grabbed her tiny frame and pushed her down and fucked her, which ripped her vagina and I had to bring her to the hospital.

I'd rather take a girl whos had a boyfriend before and went through all that shit for me.

Post: #14

I completely agree. Asian girls in general are not very sexual. Their culture doesn't encourage it. I am dealing with one now and I haven't had sex with her because she's not sexual at all - she just lies there, doesn't even seem to get that excited. A girl has to develop her sexuality just like anything else. If she doesn't then it's like a part of her that just doesn't work that she's not even really aware of. What turns me on about a girl, any girl, is her desire. When I look at her and can feel and see her desire, this is what gets me going. One of the most strikingly beautiful girls I have been with was a virgin and she was absolutely terrible. I actually had way more fun telling her to stand naked in front of me while I jacked off as she posed for me.

Post: #15

How much experience (with men or women) can a girl have before she becomes somewhat slutty?

In my eyes no more than 10 partners. Even seven or eight or nine makes me hesitate to develop feelings for her. Though I guess that it's possible.

I'd say that the number of partners that she's had is more important than what she's done. If she cared about each of her previous partners then I can see that she'd do everything with them, anal, doggystyle, deepthroat, whatever.

Where it may get tricky is if she's being used as a train by multiple people, or something similar. Orgies. Basically anything where she recklessly abandons her innocence and starts acting like a player.

Post: #16

Hmmm gonna have to disagree with you guys a little bit. Asian society may not overtly encourage girls to be sexual, but that doesn't mean their societies are prudish by any means. Many Chinese guys, Japanese guys, Korean guys, etc., all go to massage places or sauanas or hostess clubs where they can get whatever they want from young and super sexualized girls. And Japan is just dripping with sexuality (albeit in a weird and fetishized way).

Now, you could say that it's very one-sided, that the desire is all coming from the men, but if you actually spend time in these places you'll see that the women are just as into it; they often just don't get the opportunity. Go to China and young people are extremely open about sex; they are definitely not like previous generations, girls included. And many Japanese housewives are totally sex deprived and will fuck you like crazy if given the opportunity. It's all out there, you just have to find it.

There is some truth in what you guys said though, that these girls don't have a lot of experience. But that doesn't mean they're cold fish; it means they need to be guided and led. And that's where game comes in. Chinese guys have zero game. Japanese guys don't have much more. These are all guys from patriarchal societies where there is basically no such thing as female pleasure. So for the girls sex in not enjoyable. But with a little romance and wooing, and some basic moves, you can have these girls eating out of your hands.

For a guy with poor skills or who expects the girls to come to the table fully formed sexually, maybe Asians are not for you. But if you know what you're doing it's amazing what you can accomplish ^_^

Post: #17

The value of taking a girl's virginity is the psychological power it gives you over her. How you use that power is up to you and what you want from her.

Personally, I like the idea that she'll never forget that I was the first inside her.

Post: #18

I banged a good bit of virgins in my life... I don't recall any of the experiences being bad. I guess its like pizza... even bad pizza is still pretty good.

In the Phils I banged two virgins back to back.. one Filipna Friday and a Japanese one on Saturday. The Japanese girl called me 4 hours after we banged crying cause she thought she was pregnant... at first I though it was maybe some kind of scam but then I just realized she didn't know much about sex. She ended up going to the doctor and getting a pill or something that morning. The Filipna whos V card I took I pretty much ended up dating for the rest of my stay in the Phills. She was super tight and sex always hurt her (she took it like a champ though) yet she would always tell me she hopes she gets to marry a American man with a big dick. I taught her how to deep throat to... You're welcome new husband. (she is now married to a white American in the AirForce.... whos dick is not big as mine, she told me so)

I banged a hot virgin back in the day 2 hours after I met her.... She had the biggest bush (I still went down on her, had to get a taste).. I guess as a virgin your not to worried keeping it trimmed. I wanted to date her after that I was pretty sprung but her mom didn't like the older guy with the flashy car coming around and talking to her daughter and squashed that pretty quickly... I banged her in my friends empty spare room in his apartment, I lit two candles and played Barry White on the boom box in the corner... and the say Chivalry is dead!!

Post: #19

The only virgin I was able to get in Thailand was my main girl (and I had to work hard for this one), but I fucked many girls who has just 1 or 2 partners, and not very experiences, and I feel less pressured (and easier to get a boner) when I know the girl has little or no experience. As for getting a girlfriend, there is always the psychological feeling of knowing that your main girl didn't have some other guy's dick inside her before you, I guess it matters for some people and it doesn't for others, but personally I find it a positive point. For one night stands in Thailand, I always aimed for non-virgins because they are easier to get, less hassle, and more likely to become a SNL.

Post: #20

(11-23-2014 08:12 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  I completely agree. Asian girls in general are not very sexual. Their culture doesn't encourage it. I am dealing with one now and I haven't had sex with her because she's not sexual at all - she just lies there, doesn't even seem to get that excited. A girl has to develop her sexuality just like anything else. If she doesn't then it's like a part of her that just doesn't work that she's not even really aware of. What turns me on about a girl, any girl, is her desire. When I look at her and can feel and see her desire, this is what gets me going. One of the most strikingly beautiful girls I have been with was a virgin and she was absolutely terrible. I actually had way more fun telling her to stand naked in front of me while I jacked off as she posed for me.

Very good post. A few years ago I dated beautiful Korean Canadian girl that was a stunner, but was sexually placid in every way imaginable. Fast forward a few months I was hooking up with a Taiwanese Canadian girl who was filthy in ways I would've never guessed. I think Asian culture is too broad to generalize.The dance analogy is 100% correct. I find girls with little sexual experience to be generally boring and will bring quite a few issues to the table in the future (a major one being me becoming bored with them rather quickly). I do like a slut myself. It makes for a more fun time. But getting into a long term relationship with a slut will create problems down the line.

Sluts and virgins are like fascism and communism. Both opposite yet eventually start looking very similar the more polarized they become.

Post: #21

In the end, like everything else, it's all about balance. You want a girl that has a little bit of everything but not too much of any one thing. And yes, you can meet girls that are very sexual and virgins. My ex was a Puerto Rican virgin and she was very sexual but PR girls just usually are, the same as Brazilians. Culture and personality plays a big part in grooming a girl's sexuality. But even so, these girls are the exception.

Post: #22

I've taken two virgins in my time... Both took a few weeks to get going and then it was fine.

Post: #23

I'd like to hear tales of taking a girl's ass virginity, should be hilarious.

Post: #24

(04-05-2015 03:45 AM)Pride male Wrote:  I'd like to hear tales of taking a girl's ass virginity, should be hilarious.

Been here, done that.

But not as fun as it may seem. I fingered her ass with 2 fingers, pretented to doggy-style her, and "accidentally" slipped in raw. I was able to rodeo for 10 seconds before getting ejected.

Post: #25

My first real long-term girlfriend gave me her V-card. We dated for probably 8 months solid before we actually had sex, but we were teenagers so that kind of take-it-super-slow thing happens I guess. From what I remember it was actually pretty cool. Sh loved it and we fucked like 2 more times in a row right after. Ended up turning into a nympho and eventualy cheated on me a bunch ... now she is a cam girl. Is that my fault?

Truth be told taking a girl's virginity can be risky business because she is almost invariably going to want to try other dick. You are going to have to let her go because she is going to be curious and fuck if you're going to stop her. This sort of thing may work in middle-eastern culture or other super traditional societies where girls sleeping around can land them in serious trouble.

Also - that same girl I took her anal virginity too. It was okay. Like most girls she pretended to be into it but really it was a trying effort and the only appealing thing about it for her was that I liked it and it was dirty and forbidden etc.