Post: #1

Most guys on this forum aren't what you would call naturals. Game didn't come easy to us.

That means that in order to get to a level of game proficiency you have to slough through long periods of having bad game. Making mistakes is often the best way to improve in the game and no one is exempt from making them.

I'm wondering if there's what you might call a statute of limitations on bad game. Lets say you make a lot of game fuckups in your early 20's, will people forget and forgive those mistakes a year or two later?

Let's say you went after an the most unattractive girl in a social circle instead of going after the hottest one. The hot girl gives you shit for doing so at the time. Does it become an issue if you try to game her 2 years later?

Post: #2

Why are you trying to game her in the first place? This is a psychological issue...your ego was wounded, and now with your new found game strength, you will defeat the enemy. Forget about the past. The past was necessary to get to where you are today. Instead focus on new, fresh hot women you haven't met. A huge part of bad game results from trying to re-capture lost moments. Let them go.

Post: #3

Without a great disappearing act (e.g. traveling for a year and coming back a new man) to shock people into seeing your transformation, your best bet is to make your social circle see you getting a lot of high caliber chicks. It's a win-win and when you do, you'll probably forget about the other girls anyway.

Post: #4

I'm not hung up about this girl at all and have enjoyed the company of a number of charming young ladies since this incident.

This was over a year ago, I've changed continents and I've changed my outer appearance to match inner changes I've made.

The only reason it popped into my mind is because the girl in question is going to be traveling this way and I'm wondering if I'll be able to bang her or if I should just user her as a pivot to pick up other girls.

Post: #5

First, fuck what people think of you.

Second, good keep lifting, dressing good, and focusing on inner game.

Game is alot about banging girls, but it's also there to help shape you into a better man.

You may not be hung up on this girl, but you're asking for view points on if you'll be able to bang this ONE girl and started a thread about it.

It shouldn't be an issue if you can game her sufficiently enough, but some girls love to hold on and bring up the past, it's ammunition they're aching to use.

You can always make a joke about it if she ever brings it up.

Post: #6

I know exactly what Safado is talking about and I have often wondered the same thing. The solution isn't to hope that people will simply "forgive and forget" the mistakes you have made in the past. It is more just moving on and making sure you have learned from your mistakes and that you don't make the same mistakes again. I think the big difference between a successful person and an unsuccessful person in all parts of life is that a successful person can make a mistake, realize that he made a mistake, and make sure he never makes the same mistake again. The unsuccessful person will make a mistake, may even realize and be told by others that he made the mistake, but just goes right ahead and repeats the same mistake. Nobody has made more mistakes than I have, but I don't really know anyone who has learned more from his mistakes than I have. Especially when I was a really young guy, I made some mistakes that are just painful to think about.

Post: #7

I'm not even an intermediate player yet, but after I've seen what I can get now I wouldnt give a second look at my high school crushes.

My girlfriend is looking at my facebook with me and I was showing her my old crushes. "They are ugly!" she said. Sure they are, and a lot bitchier than she is. I'm amazed at how my standard have changed.

Back to your question, after 2 years most girls would get uglier why you become more and more attractive if you follow the game. Then again you would game them without giving a flying fuck about what they think anyway.

Post: #8

(11-19-2014 05:24 PM)Safado Wrote:  I'm not hung up about this girl at all and have enjoyed the company of a number of charming young ladies since this incident.

This was over a year ago, I've changed continents and I've changed my outer appearance to match inner changes I've made.

The only reason it popped into my mind is because the girl in question is going to be traveling this way and I'm wondering if I'll be able to bang her or if I should just user her as a pivot to pick up other girls.

Your best bet is to let this chick in question see you with at least one or more other women....preferably adoring, laughing women.

If you're perceived as a catch/attractive to attractive women, her hypergamy ( read biology ) will kick in and there's nothing she can do to fight that other than to find you attractive.
At that point, you just let her place herself in your sphere....which she will....then game her with a suave James Bond-like nonchalance.

Post: #9

(11-19-2014 04:08 PM)Safado Wrote:  will people forget and forgive those mistakes a year or two later?

It's a tossup as to whether they even remember them.

If she brings it up, it's time for some game jiu-jitsu.

"oh you thought I was slumming, I didn't even know you were interested in me. How long you been trying to get at Safado? Come all this way to live the dream, huh. Well i'm not that easy, you're going to have to impress me."

"heels, that's +2 pts"
"but they're wedges -3 pts"

(11-19-2014 04:08 PM)Safado Wrote:  Let's say you went after an the most unattractive girl in a social circle instead of going after the hottest one. The hot girl gives you shit for doing so at the time. Does it become an issue if you try to game her 2 years later?

1. She saw what your true smv was
2. you raised it
3. she needs to reassess

To bang her, use indirect.

She might think that you're attractive in a general sense, but she might not be attracted to you

On Preselection?
- it can work
- but keep in mind the vacation principle. You're rapping to some cute chickadees trying to get her jealous, but she might let her self get talked to by some dude @ the venue.

She's on vacation and vacation sodomy doesn't count.

"Can I borrow your keys?"

WIA

Post: #10

Thanks for weighing in guys.

(11-19-2014 05:40 PM)kaotic Wrote:  First, fuck what people think of you.

When you put it that way I guess I do care, otherwise I wouldn't have made the thread. I still need to figure out why I care.

(11-19-2014 06:25 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  It is more just moving on and making sure you have learned from your mistakes and that you don't make the same mistakes again.

Maybe the reason I care is because I want some kind of external validation that I have learned my lessons. Or I want someone else to notice that I've progressed in the game.

(11-19-2014 09:15 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  1. She saw what your true smv was
2. you raised it
3. she needs to reassess

Thanks for framing it that way. That brings a lot of clarity to the issue.

Post: #11

There is nothing more satisfying than hate fucking and kicking out of your pad a girl who a few years prior thought she was above you.

Use that ass like a pornstar!

Post: #12

30 sec.
The time it should take for you to locate a new girl at the bar.

Post: #13

(11-19-2014 09:29 PM)Safado Wrote:  Thanks for weighing in guys.

(11-19-2014 05:40 PM)kaotic Wrote:  First, fuck what people think of you.

When you put it that way I guess I do care, otherwise I wouldn't have made the thread. I still need to figure out why I care.

(11-19-2014 06:25 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  It is more just moving on and making sure you have learned from your mistakes and that you don't make the same mistakes again.

Maybe the reason I care is because I want some kind of external validation that I have learned my lessons. Or I want someone else to notice that I've progressed in the game.

(11-19-2014 09:15 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  1. She saw what your true smv was
2. you raised it
3. she needs to reassess

Thanks for framing it that way. That brings a lot of clarity to the issue.

This is definitely a case validation, banging her would bring the validation full circle and you'd feel satisfied.

You want solid proof you and your game have advanced and can bag dime pieces. I see nothing wrong with this, just don't make it a habit.

This can be categorized in the hate/revenge fuck if you do bang her, but a notch non the less.

Go for it, bang her if you can, if you can't, learn from it and keep gaming other girls !

Post: #14

It depends on many factors, so there really isn't a hard and fast time period in which a girl will forgive your shitty game.
This shouldn't even be a thought in your head. Once you truly have an abundance mentality, you will realize the statute of limitations is, as Vicious eloquently put it, the time it takes to find a new bitch.

Post: #15

there is no recovering. ever.

Post: #16

(11-19-2014 05:40 PM)kaotic Wrote:  First, fuck what people think of you.

Stop being paranoid. People WANT you to succeed. Girls WANT you to work on your game and keep improving your game. Your friends WANT you to improve your game too because that means they'll have hot chicks. Everyone WANTS you to succeed. It's only you who's holding yourself back by thinking that a break is needed so people forget you don't have good game yet.

Post: #17

(11-20-2014 10:41 PM)monster Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 05:40 PM)kaotic Wrote:  First, fuck what people think of you.

Stop being paranoid. People WANT you to succeed. Girls WANT you to work on your game and keep improving your game. Your friends WANT you to improve your game too because that means they'll have hot chicks. Everyone WANTS you to succeed. It's only you who's holding yourself back by thinking that a break is needed so people forget you don't have good game yet.

That was inspiring, man