Post: #51

Improved my style and look a decent amount, which helps a lot. Also while I'm not buff, I think I've def added a bit of muscle and I look good with a t-shirt that fits me.

I have a way more chilled out vibe now. Been focused on that. I think a lot of it's because I've been getting laid more recently with attractive girls, not to mention that I've consciously worked on self acceptance.

Better storytelling with animated body language and good vocal tonality. 1 on 1 storytelling is one of the strongest points of my game. It helps that I have some really awesome stories from my life.

Being more ballsy and doing things that scare me is a big one. Basically doing difficult approaches like groups and the hottest girls in the bar(I approached a former miss Australia and her friend, and it went well for 10 minutes). Also dealing with guys trying to AMOG me helps a ton. When you do those really difficult approaches which scare you, your anxiety goes down after and you get this chill vibe.

Post: #52

It's been posted already, but being as evasive, non-direct and slippery as possible when answering questions.

Her: How many girls are you dating right now?
Me: Hundreds.
Her: No, really!
Me. Okay...Thousands.
Her: Come on!
Me: Fine..Just dozens

Her: What are you doing tonight?
Me: What am I NOT doing tonight?
Her: Where are you going?
Me: Where am I NOT going?
Her: Wtf! Who are you going to be with?
Me: Who am I NOT going to be with..?

Post: #53

I'm really good at escalation and getting sex. I've noticed that I'm bad at keeping things going with girls I want more than a fuck with.

From what I can tell, this is traced back to a few things:

- Aiming lower than I can get away with. For some reason I get too tied up on girls that are below my SMV. They're a lot younger than me, but I can do better.
- Talking too damn much. I say too much about everything, which nukes any mystery.
- After I have sex with them, I'm too quick to try to get them back I think. It's hard to prove, but I think this to be the case.

Post: #54

A comical level of confidence has helped. Some girls even laugh at some of the bold shit I say and respond with something like "oh yeah?" or "is that right?" - I don't break character. I maintain frame and say "yeah, that's right."

You really have to believe whatever it is you're telling her.

Post: #55

One major adjustment that has improved my game is being as bold as possible...

In this world with many beta males it is necessary to be straight forward with women, because lets face it many men are unable to do so because of the innate fear of rejection. But being able to jump in head first had allowed me to get many girls that I would've never imagined were possible to pull. I was able to get women that have been dropping jaws for years just because I made it my duty to approach them... no matter what.

Yeah of course I have ran into brick walls but in the end other women who witnessed my audacity have began to swoon over me when ever they were in my presence.

Another game adjustment has been to surround myself with beautiful women that I have built a repertoire with, they understood that I can get high grade women, and get those women to remove their panties and do for me what they refuse to do for their boyfriends and male admirers. I was a beta when I was in my early teens but never understood it, but through the years I trained myself to portray a persona that women like, love. Through the discovery of the game community only then did I understand what I was doing was already well documented.

Post: #56

Making the girl work. I.E: No cheap laughs, not tolerating certain behaviour, not feigning interest in uninteresting topics. Upped my success through the roof and more importantly stopped that guilty feeling of 'selling out' for a root.

Post: #57

(12-27-2014 10:04 PM)General Mayhem Wrote:  Positive energy.

I dropped the asshole/salty bastard game that I had been running for a while and the quality of my bangs has gone up significantly. Not to mention I enjoy the process a lot more now. I'm not going out thirsty. I'm going out to have fun, and that has made a world of different.

I think I am finally coming into my own, understanding myself, who I am as a player, and what I want out of the game.

This seems a popular sentiment out there in Game, go out to have fun not after the chicks etc...

Am the only one who gets an enjoyment of being thirsty and creeping and actively on the hunt? Wanting it badly?

It's like hunting. I guess I like the feeling like I am stalking around in the tall grass. Makes the kills sweeter.

Then again I don't get as much enjoyment from purely being out to socialize compared to most. I get the going out and having fun game. I call it Running for Mayor. You interact with a bunch of people and "spread good vibes". I can only run that on select nights where I feel on top of the world. On an average day in the grind not as much.

Post: #58

- Walking with good posture
- Walking slower and with a bit of swag
- Maintaining eye contact and slowly swivel your head
- Act like a politician (aka running for mayor).
- Dress to impress
- Smile, laugh and have fun. This will attract positive people to you. I can't even tell you how many times I've walked up to girls and gotten the cold shoulder. Then 5-10 mins run into them, and get good vibes. What changed? They watched me interact and have fun. Thats rare nowadays.
- Drop the cocky aloof asshole game. That sh-t is garbage. Its only good enough to make sure people (b-tches) don't step on you. Its fun pushing boundaries, but ultimately counterproductive. You also attract lower quality girls ( strippers, bottle rats, low self-esteem girls).
- Its a long war, not a short battle. Don't lose sight of the big picture.

Post: #59

(01-06-2015 02:35 AM)DVY Wrote:  - Its a long war, not a short battle. Don't lose sight of the big picture.

It could just be because I'm currently reading Robert Greene's 33 Strategies of War, but this is spot-on.

I've done this so many times in the past. You let a couple of wrong moves or negative setbacks completely change your big picture thinking. Sometimes you have to lose the smaller battles to win the war. It sure as hell isn't fun to fail along the way, but as I'm sure has been mentioned a zillion times, it's necessary and can only stop you if you allow it to.

My whole emphasis now is just to learn from these smaller mistakes or situations and apply them to the larger picture. Otherwise, you're just stumbling along without a clear idea of where you're going or what you're trying to accomplish.

Post: #60

(11-20-2014 05:45 AM)Pride male Wrote:  I used to dress like shit and women treated me as such.

Improved my wardrobe by buying clothes on a regular basis.
Wearing what most people are wearing, to fit in.

Leaving the basement. Going out where the women are is half the battle. Like Mystery said first step is to leave the house.

Props on up grading your wardrobe. Fitting in alright but standing out is better.

Your next step should be to wear some thing that will make you stand out in a positive way, Wear one article on you that you are uncomfortable with, Flashy Pocket Square, Big Watch, Big Belt Buckle etc and see the difference.

Post: #61

(01-06-2015 02:35 AM)DVY Wrote:  - Drop the cocky aloof asshole game. That sh-t is garbage. Its only good enough to make sure people (b-tches) don't step on you. Its fun pushing boundaries, but ultimately counterproductive. You also attract lower quality girls ( strippers, bottle rats, low self-esteem girls).

My biggest goal for improvement in 2015 (along with being more conscious of posture and speech rate). Calibration is key. I've cost myself opportunities by being too sarcastic and upping the dickery to unnecessary levels.

Significant improvements since joining RVF:

- My text game has become more dynamic and deliberate. Never answer too quickly, vary the response times (push-pull keeping her guessing) and maintain brevity.

- Motivation to do more approaches (day/night) and experiment while maintaining abundance mentality. With increased practice- my approach anxiety has significantly decreased, and my overall success has increased.

- Being bold and aggressive is key for night game- also during the first "date". Always go for the kiss and beyond- never ask for permission and never apologize. Girls who didn't seem very enthusiastic during the meet ended up banging (ONS/SNL or became repeat offenders) and/or part of my harem. Push the boundaries.

Post: #62

I started out from a low bar, so my biggest adjustment was probably the very most fundamental rule of game- Don't act needy. Even the subtlest hint of neediness or desperation is absolute poison, and must be avoided at all costs. This isn't to say you should act like you don't give a shit about the girl; the vibe you want to convey is that you're passionately attracted to her, but at the same time, not very concerned about losing her.

I've vastly improved my dress as well. Fewer polos, more full button downs.

Though it's not actionable game advice, one other enlightening observation I've made lately- all (yes, literally all) of the girls who end up attracted to me start off a bit shy and awkward, with me eventually managing to break them out of their shell. There are plenty of girls I've gone on dates with who were confident and fun from the get-go; and while the dates seemed to go very well, nothing came of them. The takeaway, I believe, is that girls are only attracted to a guy who is significantly MORE confident, funny, and engaging than they are. So if you're wondering how fruitful your date was, don't think about how well it went in absolute terms; think about how well it went relative to that girl's typical social interactions.

Post: #63

1) realizing that what got me to my current level was not going to get me to the next level. I could not just do more or better at my previous strengths, i needed to eliminate existIng weakness
2) realizing that i am solely responsible for getting what i want, none of the advice i got or things i read were helping me to get to the next level so i had to get creative and experiment
3) becoming a guy who is more wanted than many girls gave me a much better appreciation for their perspective and helped me to give girls much more slack
4) realizing that an "if it aint broke don't fix it" mentality would lead to stagnation and obscolesence and that i must iterate, evem on apects of my game that were performing on the nevel
5) focusing on optimizing each phase of my fuck funnel and realizing that optimizing each phase exposes problems in later phases
6) realizing that going with the flow and drviating from my default game keeps game a lot more interesting
7) accepting that a lot of what i read about game seems completely off to me, and that doesn't mean that other guys are right and i am wrong. Usually the differences are location and position in life

Post: #64

I'll paste what I said on an RoK article comment recently:
I think that one of the best "quick fixes" to your game is to start telling girls things, instead of asking them. Instead of "Do you want to go to Panda Express?" say "Let's go to Panda Express." Instead of "Can I have your phone number" say "Well, you seem cool enough. Give me your phone number."

This has really changed my attitude and the way that women perceive me. I also use this technique with annoying males. I remember one time, this annoying little prick was cockblocking me on purpose, so I put my arm over his shoulder and said "Get me a drink." Then I ruffled his hair and pushed him off like he was a 10 year old. He just walked away speechless and returned with my drink a few minutes later. The girl I was talking to was then very interested until I blew it later with very dull conversation.

Post: #65

If a girl looks at you once - maybe.
If after that, you catch her looking at you a second time - oh yeah.
If after that..she looks a third time...definitely.

Post: #66

I learned a lot this year and made great strides.

This was a very subtle thing and goes directly to my approach problems. I am out and about In The public a lot. And I generally have very good eye contact In a conversation. But I noticed when first meeting eyes with a cute girl. I did this little thing where I averted my eyes at the split second she noticed me. I would then quickly look at her. But at that point it was too late and I had hurt my chances. For a while to fix this I practiced just making direct Initial eye contact with everyone and smiling.

I also learned to keep going when escalating sexually. Got me a lot of bangs this year.

Also learned to say no. This was empowering for me personally.

Post: #67

1. Style Improvement: I went from Roosh telling me "You look like a family guy who broke away from his Family to hit on girls" to being complimeneted on my looks by girls in Clubs, Street, coffee shop, Work etc and also comlimented by RVF members

2. Logistics: getting a centrally located Apt close to University, I was getting numbers, dates but was losing out on bangs because of poor logistics, getting an Ideal Fuck pad exponetially increased the number of bangs.

3. Polarizing Girls: making the Intentions known, Once at Isolation Spot they either spread their legs after escalation or get up to leave.

Post: #68

(11-17-2014 03:35 PM)Summer Wrote:  Even though asshole game is a lot of fun, I've learned that it's not the best way (for my personality) to get laid.

This.

When I first started with game, I needed game. My life wasn't in order. I ran cocky asshole game like most of us and it worked for a while. Then it stopped working and I couldn't figure out why. But then it dawned on me, my lifestyle game had gotten so good, being an asshole and cocky on top of it made me unattractive.

I had to learn that now my life spoke for itself and my job was to make them believe I was actually interested in them.

This also correlated with me having less success with 6's and 7's than I had before, and this is because they didn't trust me or believe I was really interested in them. They were probably right. But now they knew it.

Beta comfort game with 6's and 7's and now just relaxed take it or leave it game with 8's and up. No more need for cocky or asshole

Moral of story: "game" is training wheels. Lifestyle is the sustainable route. Once lifestyle is in place, take off the training wheels.

Post: #69

(11-16-2014 05:20 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  The game changers for me were as follows:
- Pushing hard (moving it towards sex as fast as possible). No.1
- The screening mentality
- Not being so picky ('don't have to stay with them' mentality). Ends up getting you hotter girls as well as more variety.
- Not being in Australia (although the above 3 apply there equally)

Currently working on next game changer:
- Not being skinny

+ 1 for you Phoenix, A recent lost bang and your post stuck in my mind and I was able to secure a Bang, will detail it in the + 1 Thread.

Post: #70

Most recently:

Working on rapport skills. In the past I talked too much about myself, but I overcompensated and clammed up too much, going for numbers way too soon.

The biggest way to improve this? Work on the timbre of my voice. When I slow down and give my words a buttery-smooth tonal quality, it piques the interest of the otherwise lackluster participants. It takes some concentration to continue this, still, but it's worth it. I practice on bitchy and chubby cashiers sometimes, and it's surprising how quickly that shield breaks down when you hit a wavelength on the frequency of their tingles.

I can tell because I can say the most mundane things and they immediately act more interested, sometimes biting their lips and looking at my mouth.

Post: #71

(11-15-2014 02:47 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  undiagnosed allergies that kept me from putting on a lot of weight

Could you elaborate on this??

Post: #72

(02-21-2015 01:47 AM)starboy Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 02:47 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  undiagnosed allergies that kept me from putting on a lot of weight

Could you elaborate on this??

I had an allergy to a common protein that was disguising itself as lactose intolerance. Thus, the supplement never completely solved the problem. It wasn't until I revisited it by doing dietary elimination that I learned that I was allergic to that protein.

When I was young, I had it for breakfast, every single day. I thought the symptoms (stomach ache, scratchy throat, horrible diarrhoea) were normal because I had them so often, was young, and lacking confidence due to my chemicals being out of whack. I was underweight most of the time, and then progressed to skinnyfat when I tried gaining weight. I'm allergic to common protein shakes, so I can't take them to help bulk.

In a ways, it's good, because it keeps me away from common garbage foods, but I have to be pickier with what I eat and it can be annoying. That said, I need to get my eating habit shit together and be more consistent with just preparing my own meals all the time except on special occasions. I think going through adolescence and constantly eating something that poisoned me, unknowingly, may have done some permanent damage that I can't repair, but I can't say for sure.

Post: #73

(02-21-2015 04:00 AM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 01:47 AM)starboy Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 02:47 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  undiagnosed allergies that kept me from putting on a lot of weight

Could you elaborate on this??

I had an allergy to a common protein that was disguising itself as lactose intolerance. Thus, the supplement never completely solved the problem. It wasn't until I revisited it by doing dietary elimination that I learned that I was allergic to that protein.

When I was young, I had it for breakfast, every single day. I thought the symptoms (stomach ache, scratchy throat, horrible diarrhoea) were normal because I had them so often, was young, and lacking confidence due to my chemicals being out of whack. I was underweight most of the time, and then progressed to skinnyfat when I tried gaining weight. I'm allergic to common protein shakes, so I can't take them to help bulk.

In a ways, it's good, because it keeps me away from common garbage foods, but I have to be pickier with what I eat and it can be annoying. That said, I need to get my eating habit shit together and be more consistent with just preparing my own meals all the time except on special occasions. I think going through adolescence and constantly eating something that poisoned me, unknowingly, may have done some permanent damage that I can't repair, but I can't say for sure.

what protein was it?

Post: #74

One was I stopped taking rejection personally. I framed it in my mind that it was their loss. And I know my value and what I offer. If they aren't feeling it likewise, then it's on them.

Post: #75

delete