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Churchill Still Stands Alone
I read this today, and thought about what it means to truly be a man, an individual, and not a cog in a machine, movement, school, job, university, wherever. Churchill lead by intuition and force of will, in a time without the luxury of consensus, Congress and bureaucracy. Truly an interesting story, one worth further explanation and study.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/winston-c...1415375236

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Winston Churchill remains a one-man argument for the idea that history is a tale of singular individuals and shining deeds. London Mayor Boris Johnson writes that Churchill’s admittedly ‘titanic ego’ was tempered by his ‘sentimentality and generosity.’

By BORIS JOHNSON

When I was growing up, there was no doubt about it: Winston Churchill was the greatest statesman Britain had ever produced.

My brother and I pored over Sir Martin Gilbert ’s biographical “Life in Pictures” enough to memorize the captions. I knew that Churchill had led my country to victory against one of history’s most disgusting tyrannies. I knew that he had a mastery of the art of speechmaking, and I knew, even then, that this art was dying out. I knew that he was funny, irreverent and (even by the standards of his time) politically incorrect.

At suppertime, we were told the apocryphal stories: the one where Churchill is on the lavatory, is informed that the Lord Privy Seal wants to see him and says that he is sealed in the privy. We knew the one where Labour member of Parliament Elizabeth Braddock allegedly tells him that he’s drunk, and he shoots back, with astonishing rudeness, that she’s ugly, while in the morning, he’d be sober.

I knew that he had been amazingly brave as a young man, that he had killed men with his own hand and that he had been fired at on four continents. I knew that he had been a bit of a runt at Harrow, his famous boarding school near London; that he was only about 5 feet 7 inches with a 31-inch chest; and that he had overcome his stammer and his depression and his appalling father to become the greatest living Englishman.

I gathered that there was something holy and magical about him because my grandparents kept the front page of the Daily Express from the day he died in 1965, at the age of 90. I was pleased to have been born a year before his death: The more I read about him, the more proud I was to have been alive when he was too.

Most Americans, when they think of Churchill at all, seem to retain that pride and reverence. So it seems all the more sad and strange that today—nearly 50 years after his death—he seems in some danger of being shoved aside in the memory of the nation he saved. British students who pay attention in class are under the impression that he was the guy who fought Hitler to rescue the Jews. But a June 2012 survey of about 1,000 British secondary school students aged 11 to 18 showed that while 92% of them could identify a picture of a dog named Churchill from a popular British insurance advertisement, “only 62% correctly identified a photo of Sir Winston Churchill.”

Of course, a hundred books a year are published on him—and yet we cannot take his reputation for granted. The soldiers of World War II are gradually fading away. We are losing those who can remember the sound of his voice. But we should never forget the scale of his deeds.

These days, we dimly believe that World War II was won with Soviet blood and U.S. money; and though that it is in some ways true, it is also true that, without Churchill, Hitler would almost certainly have won, and Nazi gains in Europe might well have been irreversible.

We need to remember the ways in which this British prime minister helped to make the world in which we still live. Across the globe—from Europe to Russia to Africa to the Middle East—we see traces of his shaping mind.

In March 1921, as Britain’s colonial secretary, he summoned all the key Middle East players to the Semiramis Hotel in Cairo to discuss the running of the region after the Ottoman Empire’s defeat in World War I. T.E. Lawrence (more famously known as Lawrence of Arabia) thought the summit an outstanding success, and 11 years later, he wrote to Churchill that the arrangements it produced had already delivered a decade of peace.

That peace hasn’t lasted, of course. Nor has the empire Churchill loved. He would have been saddened but not entirely surprised by that. He believed that the future of the world lay in America’s hands, and he was right. In our own time, it has fallen to the Americans to try to hold the ring in Palestine, to reason with the Israelis, to try to cope with what Churchill called “the ungrateful volcano” of Iraq. As a British imperialist, trying to salvage an empire destined to fade, he was inevitably a failure. As an idealist, summoning humanity’s grander values and fending off its worst demons, he was lastingly a success.

Churchill is the resounding human rebuttal to all Marxist historians who think history is the story of vast and impersonal economic forces. Time and again in his seven decades in public life, we can see the impact of his personality on the world and on events—far more of them than are now widely remembered.

He was crucial to the beginning of the welfare state in the early 1900s. He helped give British workers job centers and tea breaks and unemployment insurance. He was the dominant force behind the invention of the Royal Air Force and the tank, and he was absolutely critical to the conduct of World War I. He was indispensable to the foundation of Israel (among other countries), not to mention the campaign for a united Europe.

At several moments, he was the beaver who dammed the flow of events; and never did he affect the course of history more profoundly than in 1940, when he and his nation stood alone against Hitler. Without Churchill, Hitler would almost certainly have won, and Nazi gains in Europe might well have been irreversible. Churchill spoke to the depths of people’s souls when Britain was alone, when the country was fighting for survival, and he reached them and comforted them in a way no other speaker could have done. His language—stirring and old-fashioned—met the moment.

What were the elements that enabled him to fill that gigantic role? In what smithies did they forge that razor mind and iron will? “What the hammer? what the chain? / In what furnace was his brain?” as William Blake almost put it.

To try to answer that vast question, I had a long lunch in June 2014 at the Savoy Grill with his grandson, Sir Nicholas Soames, the Tory MP for Mid Sussex. As the waiter produced the bill—fairly Churchillian in scale—I noted that his grandfather was the man who changed history by putting oil instead of coal into the superdreadnoughts, the great battleships of World War II. So what sort of fuel did Churchill run on? What made him go?

Sir Nicholas brooded, then surprised me by saying that his grandfather had been an ordinary sort of chap. He did what other Englishmen like doing: mucking about at home, enjoying his painting and other hobbies. “You know, in many ways, he was quite a normal sort of family man,” he said.

But no normal family man produces more published words than Shakespeare and Dickens combined, wins the Nobel Prize for literature, serves in every great office of state including prime minister (twice), is indispensable to victory in two world wars and then posthumously sells his paintings for a million dollars.

What was the ultimate source of all this psychic energy? Was it psychological or physiological? Was he genetically or hormonally endowed with some superior process of internal combustion, or did it arise out of childhood psychological conditioning or some mixture of the two?

I remember, when I was about 15, reading an essay by the psychiatrist Anthony Storr arguing that Churchill’s most important victory was over himself. He meant that Churchill was always conscious of being small, weedy and cowardly at school. So by an act of will, he decided to defeat his cowardice and his stammer—to be the 80-pound weakling who uses dumbbells to acquire the body of Charles Atlas. Having vanquished his own cowardice, goes the argument, it was easy to vanquish everything else.

I always thought this analysis vulnerable to charges of circularity. Why did he decide to master his fear? Was he really a coward? Would a cowardly schoolboy, as Churchill did, kick an awful headmaster’s straw hat to pieces after the headmaster had given him a thrashing for taking some sugar?

So what else do we have in the mix of Churchill’s psychology? There was the father, no doubt about it: the pain of Randolph Churchill ’s rejections and criticism, the terror of not living up to him, the need after his death both to avenge and excel him. Then there is the mother, who was obviously crucial given the way she pushed and helped Churchill—his glory being at least partly her glory, after all.

There was also the general historical context in which Churchill emerged. He was born not just when Britain was at her peak but also into a generation that understood that it would require superhuman efforts to sustain her empire. The sheer strain of that exertion helped make the Victorians somehow bigger than we are now, constructed on a grander scale.

And then there was the natural egotism, shared to a greater or lesser extent by every human being, and the desire for prestige and esteem. I have always thought Churchill had a secret syllogism in his head: Britain is the greatest empire on Earth; Churchill is the greatest man in the British Empire; therefore Churchill is the greatest man on Earth.

But this is in a way unfair. Churchill did possess a titanic ego, but one tempered by humor, irony, deep humanity and sympathy for other people, and a commitment to public service and a belief in the democratic right of people to kick him out—as they did in 1945.

That is what I mean by his greatness of heart. Just before we left the Savoy, Sir Nicholas told me a last story—perhaps apocryphal—about his grandfather’s sentimentality and generosity.

One evening during the war, a cleaner at the Ministry of Defence was heading for her bus to go home and spotted something in the gutter: a file covered with pink ribbon and notices saying “Top Secret.” She picked it out of the puddle, tucked it under her raincoat and took it home. She showed it to her son, and he immediately realized it was terribly important.

Without opening it, he hurried back to the Ministry of Defence. By the time he got there, it was late, and most everyone had gone home—and this young fellow was treated pretty insolently by the people at the door. They kept telling him just to leave the file there, and someone would deal with it in the morning. He said no and refused to go until he had seen someone of flag-officer rank.

Finally someone senior came down and took the file—which turned out to contain the battle orders for Anzio, in which the Allies planned to try to establish a beachhead on Italy’s west coast.

The war cabinet was called the following day to work out how serious the security breach was and whether the Anzio landings could proceed. They looked at the file carefully and decided that it had only been in the water for a few seconds and that the cleaning lady’s story was true—and so on balance, they decided to go ahead with the invasion of Italy.

Churchill turned to Gen. Hastings Lionel “Pug” Ismay, the chief of the Imperial General Staff, and asked, “Pug, how did this happen?” Ismay told him about the woman and her son, and as he did, Churchill started to cry.

“She shall be a Dame Commander of the British Empire!” he said. “Make it so!”

That story, alas, has withstood all my efforts to verify it at the Churchill Archive or elsewhere. But it illustrates a fundamental truth. Winston Churchill had a greatness to his soul.

It is easy to see why so many historians and historiographers have taken the Tolstoyan line, that the story of humanity isn’t the story of great people and shining deeds. It has been fashionable to say that those so-called great men and women are just epiphenomena, meretricious bubbles on the vast tides of social history. The real story, on this view, is about deep economic forces, technological advances, changes in the price of sorghum, the overwhelming weight of an infinite number of mundane human actions.

The story of Winston Churchill is a pretty withering retort to all that malarkey. He, and he alone, made the difference. There has been no one remotely like him before or since.



Mr. Johnson is the mayor of London. This essay is adapted from his most recent book, “The Churchill Factor: How One Man Made History,” to be published Thursday by Riverhead.
11-09-2014 08:16 PM
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Great article, one of the books I have next to read in my list is one about his life. Can't wait to dig into that.

It's a shame that only 62% of Brits can identify him, only roughly 50 years since he's died. That's shocking. Hell the man even made it to #1 on the list of greatest Britons:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Greatest_Britons

It's not too surprising though that he's being forgotten. The same man who was cast aside as soon as WWII was won. Who had to leave the Potsdam conference midway because he lost the election.

I look forward to reading about his extraordinary life.
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Churchill served his nation, not the other way around.
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The same guy who appeased Hitler? Never mind the fact he's a product of Victorian England.

I cast my reservations about Churchill.
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(11-12-2014 06:49 PM)Tim in real life Wrote:  The same guy who appeased Hitler? Never mind the fact he's a product of Victorian England.

I cast my reservations about Churchill.

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(11-12-2014 06:49 PM)Tim in real life Wrote:  The same guy who appeased Hitler? Never mind the fact he's a product of Victorian England.

I cast my reservations about Churchill.

You're either a Troll or very uninformed. Neville Chamberlain was the Hitler toe sucker.

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Quote:The exchange between Churchill & Lady Astor: She said, "If you were my husband I'd give you poison," and Churchill said, "If you were my wife, I'd drink it."

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Quote:Winston Churchill to Lady Astor: “I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.”

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(11-12-2014 06:49 PM)Tim in real life Wrote:  The same guy who appeased Hitler? Never mind the fact he's a product of Victorian England.

I cast my reservations about Churchill.


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Looks like he was wrong in the matter of Gallipoli and his soldiers hated him.

I don´t think English would have been replaced by German language though English is part of the German language tree. Saxon is a German language.

Though nothing wrong with speaking German. Only the dictator thing was unappealing for most.

Of coruse fighting and winning against the Nazis can´t be underrated.
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We have the benefit of hindsight & various modern streams of information when it comes to influencing perspective & decision making.

The true greatness of Churchill for me is the fact that he had to make major decisions while metaphorically speaking, 'in the shit'. A product of his history & experiences & yet a proponent of life principles for all time.
To be literally an island with a vulnerable sea channel as a meager bulwark against a fearsome fighting force flush with crushing victories against it's European neighbors. The first contact with the enemy by way of joint Expeditionary Force much earlier with France would have given Churchill some idea as to the formidable prowess of the average Wermacht soldier.

All this talk about what constitutes being alpha? There..
Man, this wasn't some social justice warrior garnering ego driven attention like some pompous bullhorn. This was a man rallying a nation of bombed out shopkeepers, milkmaids,farmers, fishermen & sheep herders.
Some big mouths wither away when the flames of great resistance blow their way. Others find some chrysalis of character which burns away to reveal some hitherto inner strength.

I suspect if i encountered him on the wrong day, i'd probably have described him as 'an insufferable prick', though, haha.
The right man in the right place at the right moment in history.
Makes me wanna read up on General George Patton now.
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(11-12-2014 06:49 PM)Tim in real life Wrote:  The same guy who appeased Hitler? Never mind the fact he's a product of Victorian England.

I cast my reservations about Churchill.


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Churchill was a warhawk who desired to oppose Hitler from the Start.



A colossus of a man. One of the giants of the 20th century. That is a good article, the debate about whether or not great men shape the world or simply hear Gods footsteps echoing down the hallways of history and grab onto his coattails is interesting.

Personally I subscribe to the former theory.

Churchill's speeches are some of the finest pieces of oratory we have. I highly recommend them to anyone who wants to take up public speaking.

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I do laugh at the old line of plucky Bulldog Britain standing alone when it ran an empire than spanned one-third of the planet and most of the seas. Churchill's legacy is to drunkenly give the world's largest maritime empire to the US which started its primacy by using weapons of mass destruction against Japanese civilians.
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(11-12-2014 06:49 PM)Tim in real life Wrote:  The same guy who appeased Hitler? Never mind the fact he's a product of Victorian England.

I cast my reservations about Churchill.

You're thinking of Chamberlain, not Churchill. Churchill was a consistent warmonger.
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Yep, but I can't forgive him for the 1909/1910 People's Budget.
I was researching what caused the erosion of the British constitution to the mess it is today, and it came back to this. I was amazed his name was on it. Churchill put one of the first nails in the coffin of the hereditary-lords check on unlimited democracy.
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(11-12-2014 09:07 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  
(11-12-2014 06:49 PM)Tim in real life Wrote:  The same guy who appeased Hitler? Never mind the fact he's a product of Victorian England.

I cast my reservations about Churchill.

You're either a Troll or very uninformed. Neville Chamberlain was the Hitler toe sucker.

The latter, and this is coming from a history buff. I do have to admit I did paint with a broad brush, especially when Hitler embraced Social Darwinism, which came from England.

I did a Google search and it was indeed Chamberlain.
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(11-12-2014 06:49 PM)Tim in real life Wrote:  The same guy who appeased Hitler? Never mind the fact he's a product of Victorian England.

I cast my reservations about Churchill.

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Mixing up Neville Chamberlin and Winston Churchill is an absolutely unforgivable. History buff my ass.
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(11-13-2014 01:32 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  Yep, but I can't forgive him for the 1909/1910 People's Budget.

Time to bury the hatchet on that budget.

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(11-13-2014 01:32 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  Yep, but I can't forgive him for the 1909/1910 People's Budget.
I was researching what caused the erosion of the British constitution to the mess it is today, and it came back to this. I was amazed his name was on it. Churchill put one of the first nails in the coffin of the hereditary-lords check on unlimited democracy.

I was always under the impression that Britain doesn't have a written constitution, am I wrong?

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Britain doesn't have its constitution codified or entrenched, no.
Its constitution comes from statutes and precedent.

Without entrenched (and thus judiciary-enforced) constitutional rights and a federal system, the constitutional requirement that all laws were agreed to by the Lords was the only check on democracy and the welfare state.
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(11-13-2014 03:11 PM)Sturmgeist Wrote:  
(11-12-2014 06:49 PM)Tim in real life Wrote:  The same guy who appeased Hitler? Never mind the fact he's a product of Victorian England.

I cast my reservations about Churchill.

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Mixing up Neville Chamberlin and Winston Churchill is an absolutely unforgivable. History buff my ass.

If you're an Angle in real life, then it's your obligation to tell non-Angles like yours truly about this; it's a shame your own women didn't even teach this at school and for the most part, still don't.

Stop insulting and I already learned something new. Dodgy
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(11-14-2014 04:15 AM)Tim in real life Wrote:  
(11-13-2014 03:11 PM)Sturmgeist Wrote:  
(11-12-2014 06:49 PM)Tim in real life Wrote:  The same guy who appeased Hitler? Never mind the fact he's a product of Victorian England.

I cast my reservations about Churchill.

[Image: stupid.gif]

Mixing up Neville Chamberlin and Winston Churchill is an absolutely unforgivable. History buff my ass.

If you're an Angle in real life, then it's your obligation to tell non-Angles like yours truly about this; it's a shame your own women didn't even teach this at school and for the most part, still don't.

Stop insulting and I already learned something new. Dodgy

Researching something before spouting one's opinion is the normal methodology of the intelligent and learned.

When I know nothing about a topic and am keen to learn I keep my mouth shut and my ears open.
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Lol, so we're agreed. Churchill definitely didn't appease Hitler or suck his toe. Got it Big Grin
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(11-12-2014 09:07 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  Neville Chamberlain was the Hitler toe sucker.

Poor Neville Chamberlain.

Few people in history have been so unfairly vilified.

People mock him for waving around the "piece of paper" he got from Hitler agreeing to a peaceful settlement of Germany's claims over Czechoslovakia. But they forget that Chamberlain's desire for peace with Germany was wildly popular at the time.

It was 1938. WW1 had only ended 20 years before. Most adults still painfully remembered losing their fathers, brothers, sons, friends, and neighbours in the trenches. Nearly a million British men perished in the Great War, and millions more of our allies died in what people hoped had been the "war to end all wars".

The public didn't want war. Churchill's warmongering wasn't popular.

Furthermore, Britain was in no shape to fight a major European war in 1938. The army could only have sent two divisions, while the navy and the air force were scrambling to re-arm.

Chamberlain wasn't psychic. He probably knew that Hitler was a bad sort, but couldn't predict he would turn out to be a genocidal madman. In 1938, Germany was a fascist dictatorship, but then our later allies in the Soviet Union were a communist dictatorship. The only European holocaust that had been perpetrated by 1938 was Stalin's atrocity in the Ukraine, which killed up to 7.5 million people.

And as a peacetime statesman, Chamberlain was hugely successful. As Chancellor of the Exchequer, he skillfully navigated the economic crisis of the early 30's, balancing the budget and soon restoring the country to surplus. That Britain never suffered the widescale privation people in America and Germany endured during the 30's is in large part thanks to Chamberlain.

And when war with Germany finally came, little over a year later, the breathing room Chamberlain had obtained for British rearmament proved to be crucial. We might not have survived the Battle of Britain had the RAF and the country's radar defences not been built up in the final years of Chamberlain's premiership.

He deserves better than to be painted as an appeaser. He was a decent man who did the best he could, and it's doubtful Churchill would have achieved more in his place.
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RE: Churchill Still Stands Alone
I'd blame Chamberlain much more for providing guarantees to Poland that the UK wasn't strong enough to support, which encouraged them to refuse to negotiate regarding Danzig and the Polish Corridor and led to WWII, than for "appeasement".

And balance of power considerations aside, it is hard to say the UK had a principled reason for opposing Germany. Germany was taking bordering scraps of territory that were populated by large numbers of Germans and/or had been taken from Germany after WWI. Meanwhile, the UK was ruling over 25% of the world's population. Bizarre that people buy the idea of appeasement when viewing Germany's demands in the context of 1930s Europe.
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RE: Churchill Still Stands Alone
This is an interesting article regarding Poland:

The Man Who Started WW2

I personally hope Churchill is getting assfucked regularly by Satan in hell right next to Roosevelt.

It's not hard being a "leader" when the most powerful group in the world is backing you.
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