Post: #1

More than a two-week fling, but not long enough to be considered a relationship. Most probably last 1-3 months.

Are mini relationships basically a way of mitigating hypergamy?

Essentially, don't get too involved to begin with, even if you'd like an LTR with her. Any decent looking woman (regardless of age/or number of kids) typically has at least 25 orbiters just sitting in queue.

Maybe she has kids, and you like her, but you'd prefer to find a woman without kids (hard to do in most of the US beyond college age), so the mini relationship seems applicable.

Or are mini relationships a way to spend time with a woman just enough to not know her personally well enough, because when you do, you'll have opposing views on too many things and it won't work out?

Even the most insufferable SJW type will have orbiters as well.

Post: #2

I think the rise of mini relationships is just another sign that our attitude towards buying/shopping, as in "Well If I don't like this one, I'll just buy another" has migrated to our relationships. It's a mindset of abundance and a disposable attitude. Give this person a shot for a few months and then on to the next one. Hot women can afford to do this thanks to all the fat girls out there screwing it up for all of us. Obesity pollutes the gender ratio making all the single men fight over an increasingly shrinking pool of slim women. Since the women know they have the open hand, they can afford to collect orbiters as they go and ride the carousel during their 20s until finally settling down with some hapless dope once her looks start to fade.

Ultimately it's just another symbol of how fucked up gender dynamics has become in this country.

Post: #3

I don't think there's anything wrong with looking for a short burst of intensity of the kind that you get when you are together with someone.

I also don't think there's anything wrong with having a girl wait on you hand and foot, cooking my food, keeping me on the straight and narrow for a month or so.

These are the advantages for a man, I feel. When you are single and spin plates for long enough a change in pace is often welcome, but then comes that inevitable feeling of wanting to get back into the game...

Post: #4

(11-05-2014 06:38 PM)ChrisPitts Wrote:  I think the rise of mini relationships is just another sign that our attitude towards buying/shopping, as in "Well If I don't like this one, I'll just buy another" has migrated to our relationships. It's a mindset of abundance and a disposable attitude. Give this person a shot for a few months and then on to the next one. Hot women can afford to do this thanks to all the fat girls out there screwing it up for all of us. Obesity pollutes the gender ratio making all the single men fight over an increasingly shrinking pool of slim women. Since the women know they have the open hand, they can afford to collect orbiters as they go and ride the carousel during their 20s until finally settling down with some hapless dope once her looks start to fade.

Ultimately it's just another symbol of how fucked up gender dynamics has become in this country.

Pretty much this, but even in Russia and EE I've almost exclusively had short term (3-6 month) relationships even though the women there are tons better that the average drugged-up entitled whales back home.

I guess the bar for me is more "could I see her being the mother of my child?" so after a few months if I see multiple red flags I'm planning an exit strategy. Long-term relationships don't make too much sense to me unless there would be some kind of kids in the endgame, but I'm older so for younger guys I guess it might be feasible (but why limit yourself and not spin plates, especially since most of the Anglosphere girls are doing the exact same thing)?

Post: #5

I enjoy mini-relationships mainly because I dislike night game, and I'm focused on ROI for time/money/energy spent.

I rarely drink, I like to wake up early, and I'm focused on chasing paper over women. I'm also pretty short, with average looks, so I'm at a disadvantage at loud, crowded bars. That leaves day game as my only real option.

Day game almost always requires additional dates prior to the bang, and most girls who go on dates expect romantic escalation. These girls tend to bail once they realize I only want sex, or at least will drop out once a better romantic prospect comes along. It doesn't make sense to spend time/money/energy pursuing a sex-only arrangement with these girls.

So while I keep the dates cheap and convenient (walk in a park, ice cream downtown, dinner at my place, etc.), I give the impression that I'm looking for more than just sex-which is true. Ideally, a quality girl comes along that meets my relationship requirements, and I get to actually enjoy the time spent with her while my cost per orgasm decreases. I get to live my life according to my schedule, I can generally forgo condoms without worrying about catching something, and my need for sex is fulfilled while I focus on more important things.

Eventually, the fact that I'm not looking for a LTR comes out, she'll leave, and the process will start anew. But that will take a least a few months, and by then I'm ready for a new girl anyway.

A lot of guys are energized by the thrill of the hunt, and I certainly enjoy it as well. But at this point in my life my priorities lie elsewhere, so I'm more interested in minimizing my expenses (not just in the financial sense) while maximizing both the quantity and quality of sex. Mini-relationships are the perfect solution.

Post: #6

My preference is for mini relationships. My game style (Daygame) is more conducive towards mini relationships. Also the constant search of pussy gets taxing.

Post: #7

Most talk about maximizing ROI focuses on the denominator of the equation. Mini relationships boosts your ROI by focusing on the numerator. As Isaac put it, you lower your cost per orgasm by obtaining multiple lays with the same chick. By "cost" I mean time and frustration ( flakes, etc).

Now with this strategy, you don't get the variety you would get with a successful ONS and P&D strategy, but for many of us we are willing to sacrifice that to minimize the frustration of lost leads and flakes.