Post: #301

Here you go:
http://massappeal.com/does-this-street-h...esent-nyc/

Post: #302

(11-20-2014 11:32 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Here you go:
http://massappeal.com/does-this-street-h...esent-nyc/

OK. So most of the time she was just walking up and down 125th street? Or in the unbelievably crowded Times Square area. She had already decided what reactions she wanted and planned accordingly. Obviously. Probably chose the West Village and Soho just to try to deflect the accusations now leveled at her.

Is it just me or is there something very weird about seeking fame purely for it's own sake. I know there is some evolutionary advantage having your name and image out there but these sort of stupid stunts make a person look very, very desperate. This really isn't going to help her nail down her doctor/dentist/investment banker and unless she is one of the few genuine complete lesbians she will likely regret making the video. And even then most true lesbians probably aren't into this sort of feminism anyway.

Post: #303

(11-20-2014 10:25 AM)Bad Hussar Wrote:  So, use the background images and people very knowledgeable about New York street scenes to reconstruct the exact route and map it in Google Maps.

That would be pretty impressive to recreate the route or even just prove she was exclusively in a certain area. As you said it was all about attention whoring. But it would be very "person of interest" like if you could map it out. Dig that show.

Post: #304

Using that chart above, I used my Google Maps skills.



They did not just filmed mostly in Harlem , they filmed in a radio of just 5 blocks, 125th street, between Park Av, and Frederick Douglas Blvd.

She just walked around in the same space for some time.

Also, the guy who fallowed her for 5 minutes, only walked along side her between Malcolm X Blvd and 5th Av, that is only one block.

Post: #305

Anyone seen this clip from tha homie Lord Jamar? Makes some great points about the double standards at play.

Post: #306

"racism will always be a feminist’s best friend."

http://www.returnofkings.com/3475/racism...est-friend

Post: #307

A BBC story today on another one of these lame "walking around and getting harassed" videos.

In this latest one, a journalist named Zvika Klein (working for an Israeli news agency) walks around Muslim areas of Paris adorned with a religious accoutrement, and, of course, gets insulted numerous times during the course of 10 hours of walking around:

http://youtu.be/AltyhmrIFgo

The complete BBC article is here:

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-31491723

Title of BBC article is "10 Hours Of Walking In Paris As A Jew"

These "insult" videos are getting so, so played out. As others here have observed, you can just about take any person (of any shape, size, creed, color, or complexion) and walk him or her around for 10 hours, and then edit the finished product together to prove that everyone hates you.

Lame.


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Post: #308

Do you mean to say there isn't a significant amount of anti-Semitism is heavily North African/Middle Eastern areas of Paris?

I'm not anti-Muslim immigration like a lot of the posters here seem to be but that is an unfortunate fact of life in a lot of cultures.

Post: #309

I can wear a Russian soccer jersey, walk around in certain Polish neighborhoods, and get much more heat than the Jewish guy got. It looks like he did experience some discrimination, but if you're making a video to show a certain point of view, it's not hard to find dickheads to help you out.

Post: #310

(02-17-2015 02:16 PM)Grange Wrote:  Do you mean to say there isn't a significant amount of anti-Semitism is heavily North African/Middle Eastern areas of Paris?

I'm not anti-Muslim immigration like a lot of the posters here seem to be but that is an unfortunate fact of life in a lot of cultures.

@Grange:

I'm not saying that at all. I don't see how you could infer that from my post. I'm sure that there are many people in Muslim neighborhoods who are bigots and racists, just in the same proportion as anywhere else.

As Roosh said above, anyone can produce and edit a video to portray himself in a persecuted light.

Remember, 10 hours is a long time. Especially if you are walking through an obviously hostile environment. That video by the Israeli journalist, for example, was about 2 minutes long.

We may safely assume that the journalist edited the most inflammatory two minutes together for the sake of his "journalistic" video. So, that would be 2 minutes out of ten hours. Each hour has 60 minutes. Ten hours has 600 minutes.

So, two minutes of persecution out of 600 is about .33%...meaning that he experienced discrimination during less than one percent of his time walking around Algerian neighborhoods.

So this little game is a form of intellectual dishonesty. It's a way of trying to get people to draw the inference that there is an avalanche of hatred for group XYZ, when in fact it may not be so.

Let's do a thought experiment. What would happen if I dressed up as a young Palestinian man, with a keffieyeh, and walked around the settler village of radical Orthodox Jews of the Gush Emunim movement in the West Bank?

Would I be greeted with hugs and kisses? With a warm embrace of brotherly love? No. I would likely be lynched by a mob.

The Devil can quote scripture to his advantage, goes an old saying. He can also edit video, and quote blog posts, to his advantage.

Remember that.

As a final note, one of the comments to the video on YouTube had this to say, which I think is relevant. It was written by someone named Antoine Cod:

Antone Cod

I'M MUSLIM and Those asswholes insulting him don't represent my community !
We have nothing against jews. I personally have many jewish friends and this video is far from the reality of social relations between jews and muslims in France.
The Muslim community doesn't hate jews. We have more things in common with them than with other communities.
It's not good to generalise on a community, because of a 30 seconds part of the video where some unemployed A-wholes expose their stupidity. (We don't even know if they are arabs or muslims by the way)
I say to my jewish brothers, don't think that we're all like those idiots.


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Post: #311

(02-17-2015 03:15 PM)Roosh Wrote:  I can wear a Russian soccer jersey, walk around in certain Polish neighborhoods, and get much more heat than the Jewish guy got. It looks like he did experience some discrimination, but if you're making a video to show a certain point of view, it's not hard to find dickheads to help you out.

Does this ever happen in the slavic world to you, walking down the street minding your business and someone says something about Turks or Muslims to you?

Post: #312

(02-17-2015 03:41 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

(02-17-2015 02:16 PM)Grange Wrote:  Do you mean to say there isn't a significant amount of anti-Semitism is heavily North African/Middle Eastern areas of Paris?

I'm not anti-Muslim immigration like a lot of the posters here seem to be but that is an unfortunate fact of life in a lot of cultures.

@Grange:

I'm not saying that at all. I don't see how you could infer that from my post. I'm sure that there are many people in Muslim neighborhoods who are bigots and racists, just in the same proportion as anywhere else.

As Roosh said above, anyone can produce and edit a video to portray himself in a persecuted light.

Remember, 10 hours is a long time. Especially if you are walking through an obviously hostile environment. That video by the Israeli journalist, for example, was about 2 minutes long.

We may safely assume that the journalist edited the most inflammatory two minutes together for the sake of his "journalistic" video. So, that would be 2 minutes out of ten hours. Each hour has 60 minutes. Ten hours has 600 minutes.

So, two minutes of persecution out of 600 is about .33%...meaning that he experienced discrimination during less than one percent of his time walking around Algerian neighborhoods.

So this little game is a form of intellectual dishonesty. It's a way of trying to get people to draw the inference that there is an avalanche of hatred for group XYZ, when in fact it may not be so.

Let's do a thought experiment. What would happen if I dressed up as a young Palestinian man, with a keffieyeh, and walked around the settler village of radical Orthodox Jews of the Gush Emunim movement in the West Bank?

Would I be greeted with hugs and kisses? With a warm embrace of brotherly love? No. I would likely be lynched by a mob.

The Devil can quote scripture to his advantage, goes an old saying. He can also edit video, and quote blog posts, to his advantage.

Remember that.

As a final note, one of the comments to the video on YouTube had this to say, which I think is relevant. It was written by someone named Antoine Cod:

Antone Cod

I'M MUSLIM and Those asswholes insulting him don't represent my community !
We have nothing against jews. I personally have many jewish friends and this video is far from the reality of social relations between jews and muslims in France.
The Muslim community doesn't hate jews. We have more things in common with them than with other communities.
It's not good to generalise on a community, because of a 30 seconds part of the video where some unemployed A-wholes expose their stupidity. (We don't even know if they are arabs or muslims by the way)
I say to my jewish brothers, don't think that we're all like those idiots.


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All I'm saying is this is a different kind of video than the earlier one. It's the same form but the content is different. The earlier one was pointing out a bullshit social problem. There's weight behind this one. There would be weight behind a Palestinian in an Israeli settlement, probably a lot more. That doesn't mean that all people in X community hate Y people. For example most people in the South are not racist but the percentage of the racist minority is higher than it is in other regions. And for the ones who will act on it there are lots of others who won't.

Of course this video is selectively edited. The problem isn't as big as the video suggests but that doesn't mean it's not a problem at all.

Post: #313

(02-17-2015 03:15 PM)Roosh Wrote:  I can wear a Russian soccer jersey, walk around in certain Polish neighborhoods, and get much more heat than the Jewish guy got. It looks like he did experience some discrimination, but if you're making a video to show a certain point of view, it's not hard to find dickheads to help you out.

A jewish blogger posted this video this morning and said that he would move to France considering how little harassment the guy got.


The guy only recorded 3 legitimate instances.


And to the original Shoshana video:

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr BLVD Says it all

Post: #314

The dude in that French video just looks like a pussy. A weak, fat, ugly, slovenly, effeminate pussy. He'd face more abuse in a Jewish high school than he did in those videos. Criminals pick victims with no swagger, and it's obvious this guy has none. http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2013/04...ctims.html

Instead of being criminalized, he gets called names.




If Paris is remotely as beautiful as people say it is, his appearance is an insult to it.

The video is harmful, because it just makes people feel antisemitism is overblown, so when something truly antisemitic happens, like a physical attack on a synagogue or kosher market, people will be more dismissive. It's the boy who cried wolf story. I have read and heard from sources far more credible than this buffoon that Jews in France feel endangered, and many of them are emigrating right now, but I don't think this fellow is helping their cause any. The real Jews of France are not trying to instigate conflict, they just want to go about their lives in peace.

The solution is separation. Not all muslims will sing the praises of Jews any time soon, and it's fantastical to expect you can walk anywhere as a Jew among Muslims, or as a Palestinian among Jewish Israelis, or as a secular immodest Jewess among Haredim, and not face disapproval.

Post: #315

The thing with the Jewish guy in Paris is that these kinds of things have been happening to native Europeans for a while. Zelcorpion just did a long post in the Rotherham thread about this and it has, admittedly, dampened my spirits so I am less inclined to see the bright side to this situation.

But nobody really cares about the ethnic French outside of the French voters who are backing Le Penn more and more.

For the rest of the world this video will shape their opinion, for better or for worse.

A friend on skype just told me, just now in fact, that it is up to the alt-right and manosphere to frame the 10 Hours in Paris as a Jew video correctly. Just like with the attention whore's video that made this thread.
This loose confederacy has become a bit of a tastemaker on the internet where anonymity allows people to blend in as a normal concerned citizen, and when the progressive narrative is starting to show weakness.

Discuss and then exploit I suppose.

As for the issues of crying wolf, I was on r/Europe and there were several stories how guards with automatic weapons are guarding synagogues. Again, not guarding poor working class Europeans because anti-semitism is more of a headline grabber for the masses. As such the governments actually have to do something.
No different than how anything racially motivated grabs headlines, it incenses people. And rightly so, but nobody is even seeking the full story of these ethnic tensions.
This is becoming a ramble but image is everything. So change the image.

Post: #316

(02-17-2015 10:11 PM)GeroMeroHero Wrote:  The thing with the Jewish guy in Paris is that these kinds of things have been happening to native Europeans for a while.

The same is true for say, whites going around certain dangerous black or Hispanic areas, or, some might say, black or Hispanic men in whiter areas where police are quick to accost them. Those liberal whites fond of excoriating others for "blaming the [rape] victim" will suddenly question why the white victim was in that area, and vaguely insinuate that the victim should have known better.

The reason why a fuss is made over Jews and not whites being victimized is that Jews have an ethnic identity, and whites don't, at least not the whites in power. When a Jew hears about an attack on a Jewish site, he feels threatened. When a random white guy in Manhattan hears about another white guy getting murdered in the Bronx, he... changes the channel.

It's a bit like men and women - when a woman is perceived to be hurt for being a woman, women step out 'in solidarity' to protest on her behalf. When a man is, men break rank and turn it into a status game where they try and one-up each other by shitting on the male victim, instead of considering whether he may be worthy of their defense. Whites, particularly white gentile men, play this role of the idiotic schismatic that uproots his own dignity. The dimmer, angrier whites (e.g., Neo-nazis) will attack these minority groups like Jews because Jews have precisely the desire for ethnic self-preservation that whites or ethnic Frenchmen broadly lack.


Dante's Inferno, eighth circle of hell, home to schismatics and sowers of discord

Post: #317

(02-17-2015 08:39 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  The dude in that French video just looks like a pussy. A weak, fat, ugly, slovenly, effeminate pussy. He'd face more abuse in a Jewish high school than he did in those videos. Criminals pick victims with no swagger, and it's obvious this guy has none.

Classic, Basil...

Post: #318

(02-17-2015 11:18 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  

(02-17-2015 10:11 PM)GeroMeroHero Wrote:  The thing with the Jewish guy in Paris is that these kinds of things have been happening to native Europeans for a while.

The same is true for say, whites going around certain dangerous black or Hispanic areas, or, some might say, black or Hispanic men in whiter areas where police are quick to accost them. Those liberal whites fond of excoriating others for "blaming the [rape] victim" will suddenly question why the white victim was in that area, and vaguely insinuate that the victim should have known better.

The reason why a fuss is made over Jews and not whites being victimized is that Jews have an ethnic identity, and whites don't, at least not the whites in power. When a Jew hears about an attack on a Jewish site, he feels threatened. When a random white guy in Manhattan hears about another white guy getting murdered in the Bronx, he... changes the channel.

It's a bit like men and women - when a woman is perceived to be hurt for being a woman, women step out 'in solidarity' to protest on her behalf. When a man is, men break rank and turn it into a status game where they try and one-up each other by shitting on the male victim, instead of considering whether he may be worthy of their defense. Whites, particularly white gentile men, play this role of the idiotic schismatic that uproots his own dignity. The dimmer, angrier whites (e.g., Neo-nazis) will attack these minority groups like Jews because Jews have precisely the desire for ethnic self-preservation that whites or ethnic Frenchmen broadly lack.

Sounds like a good argument for his video, to show the issue. If people want a 'persecuted minority', they have one.

Post: #319

I didn't know Jews weren't considered to be white in America?? So Adam Sandler, Ben Stiller, Natalie Portman etc aren't white??

American racial politics never ceases to baffle me.

Post: #320

I didn't say Jews are not white, though many do. I was contrasting the ethnic consciousness of whites AS whites, and Jews AS Jews. A Jew can be white and identify with being white but not with being Jewish, or vice versa. We all have multifaceted identities, facets which we embrace in varying measure.

Post: #321

^ Or both, Jewish religiously, white, or 'European' in terms of race.

Post: #322

Tired of never ending "I am victim, pity me" videos and stories.

I like positive things like fit women, making money, good food.

Post: #323

(02-18-2015 05:59 AM)Teedub Wrote:  I didn't know Jews weren't considered to be white in America?? So Adam Sandler, Ben Stiller, Natalie Portman etc aren't white??

American racial politics never ceases to baffle me.

Maybe 100 years ago. Today Ashkenazi Jews are white, no question. No one would say your examples aren't white. Sephardi Jews might or might not be considered white. Case by case probably.

Post: #324

(02-18-2015 11:36 AM)Grange Wrote:  

(02-18-2015 05:59 AM)Teedub Wrote:  I didn't know Jews weren't considered to be white in America?? So Adam Sandler, Ben Stiller, Natalie Portman etc aren't white??

American racial politics never ceases to baffle me.

Maybe 100 years ago. Today Ashkenazi Jews are white, no question. No one would say your examples aren't white. Sephardi Jews might or might not be considered white. Case by case probably.

I think how the issue of Israel identifying as Jewish over all else means that they have decidedly different affiliations and certainly a different culture.

But at the same time I hear that Israel really tries to be Western so maybe I'm jumping to conclusions.

Post: #325

(02-18-2015 05:59 AM)Teedub Wrote:  I didn't know Jews weren't considered to be white in America?? So Adam Sandler, Ben Stiller, Natalie Portman etc aren't white??

American racial politics never ceases to baffle me.

It is indeed amusing. Often the Jim Crow laws applied to Jews as well.