Post: #426

(10-22-2016 03:43 PM)RBerkley Wrote:  ...the same female teachers you are defending...

I actually was going to read your whole comment (and I still will), but I have to stop you there.

If you think I am "defending" these slutty psycho female teachers (many of whom are married and cuckolding their husbands), you've got me all wrong.

Please re-read my comment and point out where I am defending these teachers.

If I say "A and B are both bad, but I think B is worse than A" that does not mean I am defending A.

Now, back to reading the rest of your comment...

Post: #427

(10-22-2016 12:57 PM)la bodhisattva Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 06:31 PM)Rob Banks Wrote:  I understand that feminists claim to want true equality when they really seem to want female superiority. I understand this is frustrating, and their hypocrisy pisses me off. However, that does not mean that "true equality" is a good thing. There are some feminists, especially the early feminists, who really wanted true equality. I still think they were a cancer on society just as bad as, if not worse than, modern feminists. True equality would lead to women getting drafted for war, the total acceptance of sluttiness, and ultimately the destruction of the family. "True equality" between the sexes is not the answer.

Objective readers could consider you part of this group based on your writing. A classic feminist/female/beta trope is that women should not be held to the same level of accountability for her misdeeds as a man.

I'm curious, do you consider any crime to be less severe if a man commits it versus a woman?

No, I do not consider a crime less severe if a woman commits it. My entire argument is that sex is an asymmetrical act, meaning that a man who penetrates and a woman who gets penetrated are not performing the same act. They are performing complementary acts.

Therefore, I consider illicit penetrative sex and illicit receptive sex to be two separate crimes, with the former being more severe (but the latter still being fucked up).

I can guarantee you that there is not a feminist bone in my body. I am for traditional values. I think even early forms of feminism (such as the women's suffrage movement) fucked up the country in a big way.

As someone who believes in traditional patriarchy, I might have some views that some people on here disagree with:
- I don't believe women should be drafted into combat against their will. Period.
- I believe that it is fucked up to make a girl believe you love her and want an LTR just to pump-and-dump her (especially if she is a virgin).
- I don't think women should dress revealingly or show off their bodies in public. I think it is shameful for a man to encourage, or even allow, his woman to show off her body to the world.
- I believe it is shameful for a man to be a player all his life and never even attempt to find a good woman and have kids. I think it's fine to be a player when you're young, and I would never encourage a man to marry a slut, but it is shameful to opt out of the gene pool altogether and not even try.

Do those beliefs make me "feminist"?

I had a guy in a Youtube comments section calling me a feminist mangina because I said I did not want my younger sister and future daughters to be drafted into military combat against their will.

Some people seem to jump to the conclusion that I'm some kind of feminist/SJW sympathizer just because I disagree with them on something. If you actually got to know me and what my views truly are, you would see that my views are pretty much the opposite of a feminist or SJW.

Post: #428

(10-22-2016 03:43 PM)RBerkley Wrote:  Rob Banks,

Is what you think the cause is for probably a fair number of school shootings Elliott Rogers style during the past decade?

Is the same female teachers you are defending who spread rape hysteria & anti-male hysteria against the male students, while encouraging the female students to hate the boys in their school, while the LGBTPEDOPHILE crew in Education work on implementing new recruits for lesbians & faggots.

You appear to have a problem with a peer-&-peer sexual experimentation amongst high schoolaz, & you appear to want to attack a young man for being seduced by a 17-year-old jailbait, but you support female teachers who are using my tax dollars to get fucked by 12-year-old boys in her pooper.

I don't give a damn if a male or female in their 20s get it on with an adolescent from 14-17 years of age, but female teachers are paid very well as compared to private sector workers & it is a huge fucking insult to every American and anyone abroad, that many people have to struggle to find minimum wage work, while a female teacher in the Western world gets her pooper fucked by a group of 13-year-old male students, & still get paid above middle class wages, and becomes wealthier through fame from Dr. Phil the female-pedophile apologist.

Elliot Rogers & Adam Lanza also appeared to have committed mass shootings because they complained about mistreatment under a feminist high school environment, in addition to not getting laid because they didn't learn game in school. It is already mentioned before how it is female educators who are responsible for teaching anti-male values in school. Therefore, the female teachers who take underage cock up their ass while spreading hysteria make it harder for beta men to get laid in high school, beause they lack game.

If teenage males aren't getting laid in high school (because the female students are taught to hate men by their female teachers) while a female teacher fucks the select number of Chad jailbait cocks because she wouldn't be punished, then don't be surprised if another potential Elliot Rogers or Adam Lanza comes out of the woodwork complaining on PUAHate that they aren't getting laid at their high school or college.

Even Dimitri the Lover created a post which stated that Adam Lanza did Sandy Hook because he wanted to get back at the teachers who were anti-male against him.

There is much more behind the scenes with these female teachers fucking underage students that it isn't the story of some teenage chick seducing a male teacher like in the old days. It is more sinister & agenda setting.

Is it a co-incidence that while college campuses are infected with anti-male & anti-sex hysteria, there are more female teachers getting their holes fucked by underage students than ever before?

That's the thing. Female teachers fucking minor students is a very deep issue.

You don't seem to be understanding my argument. Your entire two comments is basically you telling me why I shouldn't be defending these teachers, and I am NOT defending them.

I agree with everything you say about female teachers and the feminist school system. I agree that feminism in schools is poisoning the minds of kids (not just boys, by the way, girls too).

I'm just not sure that throwing a female teacher in jail for having consensual sex with a teenager, and doing it in the name of "equality under the law," is going to do much to push back against the feminist narrative.

I agree that feminism, leftism, and modernism contributed greatly to the anger and frustration of these school shooters. That doesn't excuse the shootings in any way, but I understand your point. It would not be nearly as common for young men to get to that point if it were not for feminism and the modern degenerate world.

I agree that our tax dollars should not be funding this degeneracy with the female teachers. I think the teachers should be immediately fired. However, that is not a reason to throw someone in jail. Saying that someone should not go to jail is not the same as defending them.

(10-22-2016 03:43 PM)RBerkley Wrote:  Rob Banks, in many laws, they consider statutory rape as "sexual contact with a minor" regardless of who is penetrating or not.

It is just like when a 20-year-old male is dating a 16-year-old chick in a legal state, but if he gets her drunk, or admits her into a bar where the drinking age is over 16, he can be charged for "corruption of a minor".

The point is that when a female teacher bends over to instruct a 12-year-old male student to fuck her hard in the ass without a condom, it is my tax dollars who will be paying for that teacher's salary, lawyer fees if she is even caught, STD treatment for her students & other costs to society.

Likewise, if it was a 19-year-old chick fucking a 12-year-old boy, I wouldn't even give a damn, though feminist pedophile hysteria would cause a man of that age to be in jail for even having sex with a 15-year-old chick who initiated the sexual contact.

Furthermore, the factual point that a minor male student is FORCE to pay child support if he "accidentally" impregnates his female teacher, concludes that female teachers who fuck students are a far worse case than some dumb male teacher who thought with his dick while being seduced by the hottest chick in the Grade 9 class of that high school.

I oppose most of these laws you're talking about. I especially oppose sending a 19-year-old guy to jail as a rapist for fucking a 15-year-old girl.

I would certainly be a hypocrite if I supported these age-of-consent laws you mention while opposing the jailing of female teachers who break age-of-consent laws. But I don't support the laws, I oppose them.

I also oppose forcing a 12-year-old child who gets his teacher pregnant to pay child support.

It seems like saying anything softer than "lock 'em up and throw away the key" will get me branded a feminist or some kind of apologist for these degenerate sluts.

PS Sorry for the consecutive posts. I'm just trying to respond to everything everyone said to me.

Post: #429

(10-23-2016 01:06 AM)Rob Banks Wrote:  If you think I am "defending" these slutty psycho female teachers (many of whom are married and cuckolding their husbands), you've got me all wrong.

A lot of times, these teachers leave their husbands to go be with the student they're banging, so it becomes just another branch swing to a more alpha guy. Nothing new there.

Since it's not as bad for men to cheat on their wives as it is for women to cheat on their husbands, in that respect the women who cuckold their husbands to bang teenage boys are worse than the men who cheat on their wives to bang teenage girls. Also, with regard to child support, an adult man would have an easier time supporting a teenage girl and her offspring, than a teenage boy would have supporting an adult woman and her offspring.

On the other hand, when people say that it's just as bad for a single woman to have sex with a teenage boy, as it is for a single man to have sex with a teenage girl, it reminds me of what Blair Naso was writing: "Davis Aurini has said before that Christians raise their daughters like sons and raise their sons like maidens. The boys, believing in an objective morality, delay sex for marriage, and the girls, believing in the unconditional forgiveness promised, fornicate with the non-Christians."

Teenage girls are told it's okay to go have sex with boys, while teenage boys are told they're being victimized if they have sex with a hot teacher. Our culture has reversed the natural order.

Post: #430

(10-23-2016 01:42 AM)Rob Banks Wrote:  - I believe it is shameful for a man to be a player all his life and never even attempt to find a good woman and have kids. I think it's fine to be a player when you're young, and I would never encourage a man to marry a slut, but it is shameful to opt out of the gene pool altogether and not even try.

Do those beliefs make me "feminist"?

Kinda. You still need to read alot here and over at ROK. Any time you try to "shame" a guy for doing anything, you creep towards the feminist threshold. Shaming is an SJW tactic.

Post: #431

Yes, a Victorian feminist. I see a lot of female pedestalizing here. Your posts thus so have contended the following:

1. Women should not be held to the same level of accountability under the law.
2. Women, under no circumstances, should be asked to sacrifice their comfort for the protection of their country. (Men must register for the draft against their will under threat of imprisonment. In the past, men were shamed by women for not volunteering to enter the meat grinders of WWI trenches.)
3. You do not think it's appropriate for men to be around teen girls. (That strongly resembles the feminist assumption that every man is a pedophile who simply hasn't had the chance to act.)
4. If is shameful for a man to put his wants and needs before a virgin female.
5. It is shameful for a man to fulfill his sexual needs throughout his life without incurring the burdens most marriages in the West bring.

You're are literally using the word "shameful" to describe a man who doesn't meet your standard of a virtuous relationship with a woman. You are also exempting women from legal accountability.

These instances, by definition, make you a textbook feminist under its form TODAY. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt in thinking you're just a misguided white knight whose eyes will hopefully be opened here.

Post: #432

(10-23-2016 11:02 AM)RaymondKertezc Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 01:06 AM)Rob Banks Wrote:  If you think I am "defending" these slutty psycho female teachers (many of whom are married and cuckolding their husbands), you've got me all wrong.

A lot of times, these teachers leave their husbands to go be with the student they're banging, so it becomes just another branch swing to a more alpha guy. Nothing new there.

Exactly. But if the alpha guy happens to be under a certain arbitrary age (18), we throw the woman in prison and consider the guy a sexually abused victim.

By the way, to all the people who argue that it does fuck with a teenage boy's emotions to be banging his teacher, I bet it fucks with his emotions way more to have a woman he thinks he loves go to prison because of him, and to have everyone telling him he is a rape victim. He will feel like he can't trust anyone, because all he did was tell a few friends he was banging the teacher and now she's in prison.

(10-23-2016 11:02 AM)RaymondKertezc Wrote:  Since it's not as bad for men to cheat on their wives as it is for women to cheat on their husbands, in that respect the women who cuckold their husbands to bang teenage boys are worse than the men who cheat on their wives to bang teenage girls. Also, with regard to child support, an adult man would have an easier time supporting a teenage girl and her offspring, than a teenage boy would have supporting an adult woman and her offspring.

I agree that a female cheater is worse than a male cheater. I was only arguing that a male having sex with a teenage girl is more damaging to the girl than a female having sex with a teenage boy is damaging to the boy.

Obviously, what the woman is doing is worse in the sense that she is a slut who is cuckolding her husband

(10-23-2016 11:02 AM)RaymondKertezc Wrote:  On the other hand, when people say that it's just as bad for a single woman to have sex with a teenage boy, as it is for a single man to have sex with a teenage girl, it reminds me of what Blair Naso was writing: "Davis Aurini has said before that Christians raise their daughters like sons and raise their sons like maidens. The boys, believing in an objective morality, delay sex for marriage, and the girls, believing in the unconditional forgiveness promised, fornicate with the non-Christians."

Teenage girls are told it's okay to go have sex with boys, while teenage boys are told they're being victimized if they have sex with a hot teacher. Our culture has reversed the natural order.

Exactly. That was my point. The notion that these women are sexual predators, and their actions are just as damaging as those of a male sexual predator, confuses the shit out of kids and further reinforces the idea that male sexuality and female sexuality are equal.

In fact, I believe the only reason these teachers are NOT being given a pussy pass is because it is more convenient for the feminists to have these women arrested. That way, they can reinforce the idea that "women can rape too, because men and women are equal," and at the same time they can claim they're being "fair" and "equal" by treating female "rapists" the same as male ones.

Anyone who thinks that these women are being jailed out of a sense of true justice and fairness is sorely mistaken.

Post: #433

(10-23-2016 12:49 PM)la bodhisattva Wrote:  Yes, a Victorian feminist.

That's a bit of an oxymoron. If feminists even existed during Victorian times, they were on the fringes and not in the mainstream.

(10-23-2016 12:49 PM)la bodhisattva Wrote:  I see a lot of female pedestalizing here. Your posts thus so have contended the following:

1. Women should not be held to the same level of accountability under the law.

I never said that, and in fact I stated the exact opposite several times.

I believe men and women should be punished equally for the same crime. I do not believe men and women should be punished equally for what I consider to be different crimes.

(10-23-2016 12:49 PM)la bodhisattva Wrote:  2. Women, under no circumstances, should be asked to sacrifice their comfort for the protection of their country. (Men must register for the draft against their will under threat of imprisonment. In the past, men were shamed by women for not volunteering to enter the meat grinders of WWI trenches.)

Men have traditionally fought wars in order to protect women and children. I understand that most of today's women are not deserving of that protection, and I would have no problem sending feminists off to war to find out what equality really is.

However, the women in my immediate family are not feminists. My future daughters, if I raise them right, will not be feminists either. I am not willing to send my younger sister and future daughters off to war against their will just to prove a point to the feminists.

And no, I wouldn't have nearly as much of a problem with my future sons being sent off to war, provided that it was not another stupid war like Iraq.

I guess believing that men and women are different and that society should treat them differently makes me a feminist.

(10-23-2016 12:49 PM)la bodhisattva Wrote:  3. You do not think it's appropriate for men to be around teen girls. (That strongly resembles the feminist assumption that every man is a pedophile who simply hasn't had the chance to act.)

I never ever said that men shouldn't be around teenage girls. What I said was that we shouldn't have male teachers in rooms with teenage girls. And I also said I don't think young attractive female teachers to be in the room with teenage boys. That would make it easier to avoid these situations.

I'm not assuming every man is a pedophile. I'm assuming that there's a lot of men out there who would fuck 14- or 15-year-old girls. It's normal for guys to be attracted to girls that age. It doesn't make them "pedophiles."

(10-23-2016 12:49 PM)la bodhisattva Wrote:  4. If is shameful for a man to put his wants and needs before a virgin female.

I think it is a girl's (and her family's) responsibility to protect her from guys who want to pump and dump her. But I also think that a guy who lies to a young virgin girl just so he can pump and dump her, he shares some of the responsibility for fucking up that girl. The two are not mutually exclusive.

(10-23-2016 12:49 PM)la bodhisattva Wrote:  5. It is shameful for a man to fulfill his sexual needs throughout his life
without incurring the burdens most marriages in the West bring.

So I guess you're just totally against any sort of traditionalism, patriarchy, or family values. In your ideal world, would men just live their whole lives as alpha players and all women would be physically attractive sluts? I think that world would be just as bad as we have now.

You're worried about laws that are unfair to men and children being taught an anti-male worldview, but you don't realize that what makes all of that possible is the destruction of patriarchy and the traditional family.

(10-23-2016 12:49 PM)la bodhisattva Wrote:  You're are literally using the word "shameful" to describe a man who doesn't meet your standard of a virtuous relationship with a woman.

I am using the word shameful to describe a man who doesn't believe in traditional values or opts out of reproduction altogether, which is basically life's primary mission.

(10-23-2016 12:49 PM)la bodhisattva Wrote:  You are also exempting women from legal accountability.

No I am not. I said I believe in equal punishment for equal crimes. I don't believe in equal punishment for something that I don't consider an equal crime.

Again, you're focusing on relatively small things like anti-male laws regarding statutory rape, but you don't seem at all worried about the overall culture having abandoned traditional values. In fact, you call for the further abandoning of traditional values with your defense of drafting women into the military and your idea that society should treat men and women identically.

(10-23-2016 12:49 PM)la bodhisattva Wrote:  These instances, by definition, make you a textbook feminist under its form TODAY. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt in thinking you're just a misguided white knight whose eyes will hopefully be opened here.

Yeah, my defense of traditional patriarchy makes me a feminist. That makes a lot of sense.

Post: #434

(10-23-2016 12:05 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 01:42 AM)Rob Banks Wrote:  - I believe it is shameful for a man to be a player all his life and never even attempt to find a good woman and have kids. I think it's fine to be a player when you're young, and I would never encourage a man to marry a slut, but it is shameful to opt out of the gene pool altogether and not even try.

Do those beliefs make me "feminist"?

Kinda. You still need to read alot here and over at ROK. Any time you try to "shame" a guy for doing anything, you creep towards the feminist threshold. Shaming is an SJW tactic.

Actually bro, the feminists are the ones who lack shame, if you haven't noticed.

Bitching about being shamed is actually the SJW tactic. They bitch about "slut shaming," "fat shaming," etc. They say you can't shame anyone for being gay or transsexual. You've got it backwards.

Society needs more shame, not less. Our problem in the West is lack of shame.

Post: #435

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/...-year.html

"Teacher says she’s the ‘victim’ after sleeping with student for nearly a year

Former teacher Mary Beth Haglin blames her student for seducing her and “burning her life to the ground.”

She was a 24-year-old substitute teacher.

He was a 17-year-old high school student.

And over the course of an illicit, months-long relationship during the 2015-2016 school year in Cedar Rapids, she admits, the pair had sex “hundreds of times.”

Mary Beth Haglin was charged in July with sexual exploitation by a teacher.

But now, Haglin claims that not only is she innocent of committing any crime, she’s actually the victim in the relationship.

Haglin appeared on the Dr. Phil show this week and accused the student of hatching an elaborate plan of romantic seduction, then threatening to “burn her life down” if she ended the relationship.

Post: #436

(10-23-2016 03:21 PM)Rob Banks Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 12:05 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 01:42 AM)Rob Banks Wrote:  - I believe it is shameful for a man to be a player all his life and never even attempt to find a good woman and have kids. I think it's fine to be a player when you're young, and I would never encourage a man to marry a slut, but it is shameful to opt out of the gene pool altogether and not even try.

Do those beliefs make me "feminist"?

Kinda. You still need to read alot here and over at ROK. Any time you try to "shame" a guy for doing anything, you creep towards the feminist threshold. Shaming is an SJW tactic.

Actually bro, the feminists are the ones who lack shame, if you haven't noticed.

Bitching about being shamed is actually the SJW tactic. They bitch about "slut shaming," "fat shaming," etc. They say you can't shame anyone for being gay or transsexual. You've got it backwards.

Society needs more shame, not less. Our problem in the West is lack of shame.

You missed the point (bro) - shaming is a tactic, not an emotion actually felt by feminists.

If they don't like what you are doing, they try to shame you into compliance. Once upon a time, the powers that be would control what political discourse took place by way of controlling the distribution of dissent (printing presses, etc.). Since that approach is no longer practical, shame is the only effective tool used for keeping dissidents in line. That we in this forum nearly all use screen names versus our actual identities is testament to that reality. Shaming it is the favorite tactic of SJWs - when you use language about this or that being shameful for a man, it reeks of their modus operandi.

Post: #437

(10-23-2016 10:24 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 03:21 PM)Rob Banks Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 12:05 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 01:42 AM)Rob Banks Wrote:  - I believe it is shameful for a man to be a player all his life and never even attempt to find a good woman and have kids. I think it's fine to be a player when you're young, and I would never encourage a man to marry a slut, but it is shameful to opt out of the gene pool altogether and not even try.

Do those beliefs make me "feminist"?

Kinda. You still need to read alot here and over at ROK. Any time you try to "shame" a guy for doing anything, you creep towards the feminist threshold. Shaming is an SJW tactic.

Actually bro, the feminists are the ones who lack shame, if you haven't noticed.

Bitching about being shamed is actually the SJW tactic. They bitch about "slut shaming," "fat shaming," etc. They say you can't shame anyone for being gay or transsexual. You've got it backwards.

Society needs more shame, not less. Our problem in the West is lack of shame.

You missed the point (bro) - shaming is a tactic, not an emotion actually felt by feminists.

If they don't like what you are doing, they try to shame you into compliance. Once upon a time, the powers that be would control what political discourse took place by way of controlling the distribution of dissent (printing presses, etc.). Since that approach is no longer practical, shame is the only effective tool used for keeping dissidents in line. That we in this forum nearly all use screen names versus our actual identities is testament to that reality. Shaming it is the favorite tactic of SJWs - when you use language about this or that being shameful for a man, it reeks of their modus operandi.

The SJW's are only able to shame blue-pill guys to begin with.

Also, their tactic is to shame guys for things they should not be ashamed of. They try to shame men for being masculine and having a dick.

That doesn't mean that we shouldn't shame people for things they should be ashamed of.

Do you think we shouldn't shame women for being slutty or fat? Wouldn't that just be using "SJW shaming tactics?"

If you agree that women should be shamed for their degenerate behavior, then men should be shamed for their degenerate behavior as well.

PS I don't need to "read alot here and over at ROK." I have been reading and commenting over at ROK for several years. I think you need to read some of Roosh's more recent stuff. I am quite sure he would agree with me about guys who are players their whole lives and never start a family. That's why he is currently out of the game.

Post: #438

(10-24-2016 01:37 PM)Rob Banks Wrote:  The SJW's are only able to shame blue-pill guys to begin with.

Also, their tactic is to shame guys for things they should not be ashamed of. They try to shame men for being masculine and having a dick.

That doesn't mean that we shouldn't shame people for things they should be ashamed of.

Do you think we shouldn't shame women for being slutty or fat? Wouldn't that just be using "SJW shaming tactics?"

If you agree that women should be shamed for their degenerate behavior, then men should be shamed for their degenerate behavior as well.

PS I don't need to "read alot here and over at ROK." I have been reading and commenting over at ROK for several years. I think you need to read some of Roosh's more recent stuff. I am quite sure he would agree with me about guys who are players their whole lives and never start a family. That's why he is currently out of the game.

I don't agree that a guy is degenerate for being a player since he wouldn't be allowed to be a player without willing female participants. Try being a player in a place like Saudi Arabia and see how far it gets you. There is nothing a guy needs to be ashamed about when it comes to his natural desires. If he grows out of it on his own, as did Roosh, so be it. Now if he spends his life doing P4P when he could be developing himself, that's another story. Even so, let's knock it off already with the "men should be ashamed" schtick.

I'll take your word on being a long time reader, but really, for a guy with a new account and one (very recent) rep point, you can't blame people for being a bit skeptical.

Post: #439

(10-24-2016 01:54 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  I don't agree that a guy is degenerate for being a player since he wouldn't be allowed to be a player without willing female participants. Try being a player in a place like Saudi Arabia and see how far it gets you. There is nothing a guy needs to be ashamed about when it comes to his natural desires. If he grows out of it on his own, as did Roosh, so be it. Now if he spends his life doing P4P when he could be developing himself, that's another story. Even so, let's knock it off already with the "men should be ashamed" schtick.

I'll take your word on being a long time reader, but really, for a guy with a new account and one (very recent) rep point, you can't blame people for being a bit skeptical.

I pretty much agree with everything you said.

I don't think guys are degenerates just for being players. I do think that guys who are players for their entire lives are degenerates, but that is because they are rejecting family and reproduction, not because they are banging lots of girls.

I definitely don't think that a guy is at fault for taking what is offered to him by women (sex). The women have a responsibility to turn him down if they don't want to have sex. If they allow themselves to be pumped and dumped, that's their own damn fault.

Now, if a guy lies to a girl and says he loves her and wants to marry her just so that he can pump and dump her, that's a different story. That's the kind of shit that gets you shot in a small town or village. However, it is still the woman's (and her family's) responsibility to screen out these types of guys and avoid them.

As for the "shaming," I understand that feminists and SJWs try to "shame" guys for having a dick and being masculine. However, when I talk about shame, I think men should naturally be ashamed of certain behaviors. I think we should hold ourselves to a certain standard of behavior, and should feel -- yes -- ashamed of ourselves if we fail to live up to those standards.

Post: #440

(10-24-2016 09:54 PM)Rob Banks Wrote:  I pretty much agree with everything you said.

I don't think guys are degenerates just for being players. I do think that guys who are players for their entire lives are degenerates, but that is because they are rejecting family and reproduction, not because they are banging lots of girls.

So guys should only have one choice, to reproduce?

If a guy chooses not to reproduce, that's his own prerogative.

I find it funny that you don't include the 3rd option, reproduce AND be a player/exercise his options.

Post: #441

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Texas...er-desktop

Quote:A Texas middle school teacher who was impregnated by a 13-year-old student could face up to 30 years in prison after pleading guilty to aggravated sexual assault of a child.

Alexandria Vera, who was arrested in June, told police that she fell in love with one of her students after the two began a relationship through Instagram messages. The 24-year-old former eighth-grade English teacher at Stovall Middle School in Houston also said that the boy's family was supportive of the affair.

Vera, who pleaded guilty on Wednesday, was initially charged with continuous sexual assault of a child, which carries a maximum punishment of life in prison. By pleading guilty to a lesser charge, her sentence was capped at 30 years, according to the Houston Chronicle.

She also is eligible for deferred adjudication, in which case she will be placed on probation and will have no felony on her record if she successfully completes the terms, the Houston Chronicle reported.

"We're very much hoping for deferred adjudication," Vera's attorney, Ricardo Rodriguez, said, according to the Houston Chronicle.

Vera told police that she met the boy during summer school in 2015. She said she initially resisted the boy's advances until sometime last fall, when she agreed to hang out with her student.

Prosecutors say Vera and the teen had sex almost every day for nine months. She told investigators that they love each other, according to court documents. During the relationship, Vera told her neighbors that the boy was her brother, according to KHOU, a CBS affiliate.

The boy's parents had known of the relationship since October of last year, and they accepted it, Vera told police.

A police investigation began earlier this year after the school principal received a tip about Vera. She told police that she had gotten pregnant and had an abortion after Child Protective Services questioned her about the relationship in February, according to KTRK-TV, an ABC affiliate.

Vera has been free on a $100,000 bail and has been wearing a GPS ankle monitor. She's scheduled for a sentencing hearing in January.

The now-14-year-old boy, who also admitted to the sexual relationship, is in foster care and will remain there at least until August, according to KHOU. The boy's mother also was investigated by Child Protective Services, according to media reports.

Post: #442

The parents knew about it and accepted it.

What the hell, Texas?!

Post: #443

(11-22-2016 04:33 PM)C-Note Wrote:  http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Texas...er-desktop

Quote:A Texas middle school teacher who was impregnated by a 13-year-old student could face up to 30 years in prison after pleading guilty to aggravated sexual assault of a child.

She looks good here (possibly with the actual student in question), but if you watch the video, she's fat (screenshot below shows it too). Not horribly so, but does not bode well for 24 years old. She'll probably hit the wall...of her prison cell (we can only hope).

Post: #444

(11-22-2016 05:55 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 04:33 PM)C-Note Wrote:  http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Texas...er-desktop

Quote:A Texas middle school teacher who was impregnated by a 13-year-old student could face up to 30 years in prison after pleading guilty to aggravated sexual assault of a child.

She looks good here (possibly with the actual student in question), but if you watch the video, she's fat (screenshot below shows it too). Not horribly so, but does not bode well for 24 years old. She'll probably hit the wall...of her prison cell (we can only hope).

-pics snipped-

Chubby latinas are notorious for being SIF's - pretty faces decent sized tits but the rest of their body is fuck all.

And you're right she's 24 and fat - AND also pregnant.

Which means she's going to blow the fuck up and probably never lose the weight.

Post: #445

(11-22-2016 05:55 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 04:33 PM)C-Note Wrote:  http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Texas...er-desktop

Quote:A Texas middle school teacher who was impregnated by a 13-year-old student could face up to 30 years in prison after pleading guilty to aggravated sexual assault of a child.

She looks good here (possibly with the actual student in question), but if you watch the video, she's fat (screenshot below shows it too). Not horribly so, but does not bode well for 24 years old. She'll probably hit the wall...of her prison cell (we can only hope).

Does anyone else feel sorry for her? It's not like she forced the kid to do the things. It was all mutual and even the family approved. I don't really see any harm, if anything she made the kid a man, in which case she should be praised. This sort of things happen in other countries, if it wasn't the US dumb laws , she would have continued to enjoy her life.

Post: #446

(11-23-2016 01:40 PM)Scaro066 Wrote:  Does anyone else feel sorry for her? It's not like she forced the kid to do the things. It was all mutual and even the family approved. I don't really see any harm, if anything she made the kid a man, in which case she should be praised. This sort of things happen in other countries, if it wasn't the US dumb laws , she would have continued to enjoy her life.

Nope. Get out of here with that white knight nonsense.

She's over a decade older than the student and the family "accepting it" doesn't mean it wasn't wrong all of a sudden. She's in a position of authority over the student and all grade school teachers in the US are clear on that boundary. In all likelihood she gets off on how "wrong" it is.

Don't get used to handing out pussy passes in your life, or you'll become one.

Post: #447

Aggravated Sexual Assault with a Child?

A 13 year old male with a goatee is not a child. This is one of the many ways they emasculate us as men as a whole. Jews are not the only ones that celebrate a boy becoming a man at 13. Many cultures do this because it is biology. Sure we do not finish until 25, but we are still men. These laws should be broken out into male and female sections. Combining them is just dishonest and emasculating. They take away our power and birthrights, by pushing us down with this trite garbage that we are the same as females at the same age.

Forget about that tranny bathroom nonsense. This gender neutrality garbage actually started a long time ago.

Post: #448

(11-22-2016 04:37 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  The parents knew about it and accepted it.

What the hell, Texas?!

Latinos dude. In Mexico, that would not have raised many eyebrows at all. Even if it did at first, it would have been let go afterwards and they would have clamped down on him to be responsible as a father.

If you think about it, that is the right attitude, if all else failed (like being a watchful parent, teaching, guiding, etc.)

Post: #449

(11-23-2016 01:40 PM)Scaro066 Wrote:  Does anyone else feel sorry for her? It's not like she forced the kid to do the things. It was all mutual and even the family approved. I don't really see any harm, if anything she made the kid a man, in which case she should be praised. This sort of things happen in other countries, if it wasn't the US dumb laws , she would have continued to enjoy her life.

No one here will ever feel sympathy for these women with how many men have had their lives destroyed for actions much less serious than this one or not even criminal actions such as being a vocal advocate for masculinity and traditional gender roles.

These are emotionally damaged women who BY THEIR OWN CHOICES went down the carousel riding rabbit hole and became emotionally defective to the point where no man of value would want them.

If you do not believe women have agency under the law in cases like this, then you must also believe women do not have agency to vote. In fact, the most recent election shows that many supposedly "educated" women are unable to separate emotions from facts. Stating that women have agency in some areas but not others is a feminist construct.

I'm seeing a lot of feminized posters in this thread. It's good that you guys found the site, but you really need to do more reading before you bring attitudes like these into the threads. A lot of these statements have been debunked in depth in previous threads.

Post: #450

I DON'T think anyone should have sympathy for that 24-year-old female teacher for fucking her 13-year-old student for the following reasons:

1) If a random 24-year-old college frat party boy had sex with a 13-year-old girl with no "position of authority", not only will he be jailed in at least 90% of the world for "statutory rape", but he can be beaten up in prison by white knights and men who have that anger towards new inmates who are accused of any sexual crime.

2) Jewish culture does give a "rite of passage" to boys reaching age 13, but very Orthodox Jews in Canada were investigated by feminist social workers for " arranging child marriages", in which that sect fled to Trinidad & Tobago (where feminists from Canada/USA/UK are trying to attack religious marriage exemptions despite the recently increased age of consent), and later in Guatemala (where no one gets anal retentive over hysteria).

3) College campuses are DEFCOCK 1 zones (at least in Toronto) where feminist student groups post flyers everywhere which suggest that every male college student on campus is a rapist, and that the level of rape against females on Canadian campuses are far worse than war crime rapes during the Rwandan genocide or Freetown massacre. Imagine a college posting flyers that every Muslim man is a terrorist, or that every dark-skinned man is a potential thief, but somehow feminists get away with labelling every man as a potential rapist or child molester.

4) College campuses are so toxic because of feminism and political correctness that most men in the developed Western world drop out of college and society, forming that MGTOW trend.

5) Now more female students have more access (and less competition) to more college education, grants, scholarships and placements (especially for teacher's college).

6)While males are not attending college, the job market sucks for them because manufacturing is either outsourced or obsolete by technology. Many men in the USA/Canada/UK are either unemployed or under-employed. Only a few men in the Millennial age bracket get to "make it".

7) Meanwhile, the harpies such as that female teacher who fucked her 13-year-old student is working for probably 50k tops a year in the USA.

8)EVEN IF a man gets a job which pay 50k a year in this job market, he is one false sexual harassment allegation away from losing his job, even if it's an unfounded allegation, or it is merely a misinterpretation such as being accused of "unwanted conversations" with a female employee.

9)EVEN IF a man earns over 50k a year, he is most likely taxed higher to pay the salaries for female teachers who dominate education in the USA.

So why should anyone give any female teacher sympathy when they are most likely the ones to use their position of authority to:

1) Promote feminism which destroys future generations.
2) Accuse men of being potential rapists, child molesters, toddler diddlers, Satanic Ritual Abuse.
3) Indoctrinate more feminists from young.
4) Contribute to the anti-rape and pedo hysteria that we have today.

YET at the same time, the majority of these same female teachers would, in a heartbeat, suck a 13-year-old boy's dick, or even prepare her asshole for anal for her 13-year-old male student to fuck her, while everyone else in the world are under unemployment, poverty, anti-male hysteria, divorce rates, poor quality of women, etc.

These female teachers who fuck underage students are the new elite class believe it or not. It would be same female teacher who would inform the police about two high school students "sexting", yet she would claim that she isn't doing anything wrong sharing explicit nude pics of herself to the entire classroom of 11-year-old students so that she can get her asshole pounded by her favorite students in the class....