Post: #51

As long as youre human.. most girl will be interested.
Some will be interested in non humans though

Post: #52

^ I like this answer the best.

I have a friend who is African, he pulls chicks of all races with ease.
I have a friend who is Indian (Anglo) and he turns away women, he could pull with ease.
What both of these guys have is high confidence and they really don't give a fuck about women. They aren't rich but they have great style.

A lot of women cannot be seen with certain guys in public, as I black guy I know discretion is part of the game.

Post: #53

With the risk of sounding racist and very politically incorrect ... Here are my observations from most of west/central EU and few SEA countries:

1: White by huge margin
2: Black

Arabs, Indians and other Asians not only don't gain points anywhere, in most places they are at disadvantage when it comes purely to looks.

It's not fair but that's what I saw and heard from girls. Also:

Post: #54

I feel that if you're a good looking guy you will be successful anywhere. I doubt a white guy who looks like Carrot Top circa 1994 is going to kill it all over the world if he's traveling along side a Tyson Beckford and Mario Lopez look-a-likes

Post: #55

(10-25-2014 02:02 AM)ballybally Wrote:  It's not fair but that's what I saw and heard from girls. Also:

Moral of the story: if you're horny, message a black woman.
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Post: #56

(10-25-2014 08:01 AM)Cyclone Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 02:02 AM)ballybally Wrote:  It's not fair but that's what I saw and heard from girls. Also:

Moral of the story: if you're horny, message a black woman.
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Unless you're black then do this...

Post: #57

What the hell does "Other-male" on that chart mean? Is that mixed or something? And is that chart in America or worldwide?

Post: #58

This chart is just based only on OKC where people go to hit on sub-par women. The hottest women - the kinds guys in this forum go for - are not OKC fiends, at least here in America. Also lots of people lie about their ethnicity. I know Latino and Middle Eastern guys who just put "white" in okc and even put a fake first name.

According to the chart Black men have a lower reply rate than Asians, but you said Blacks do better than them?

Anyway you're just proving the point I made in the last thread. White guys love psyching out their competition with "objective" (LOL) analysis about how girls hate all non-white guys. Brian Shima is right, just look good and have game, it doesn't matter.

I don't usually engage in these kinds of internet debates but I make these points for the impressionable young ethnic bros lurking so they don't feel discouraged.

Post: #59

(10-25-2014 11:34 AM)MidWest Wrote:  What the hell does "Other-male" on that chart mean? Is that mixed or something? And is that chart in America or worldwide?

If i remember correctly, this is for OKC in America.

I wouldn't completely trust the results, because ethnic minority girls who don't wan't to date outside their race don't generally register on OKC. They will find mates though their social circle or maybe ethnic dating sites/apps.

For example, according to this table, Indian girls prefer whites to Indians by a large margin. This is just pure BS in my opinion.

Post: #60

(10-25-2014 02:02 AM)ballybally Wrote:  With the risk of sounding racist and very politically incorrect ... Here are my observations from most of west/central EU and few SEA countries:

1: White by huge margin
2: Black

Arabs, Indians and other Asians not only don't gain points anywhere, in most places they are at disadvantage when it comes purely to looks.

It's not fair but that's what I saw and heard from girls. Also:

That chart say's the exact opposite for blacks. So there goes the authenticity of the chart since we all know how well black guys do

Post: #61

Could be wrong but I think chart is from US cupid? ... While I was talking mostly about EU.

And I guess IRL things are a little different then online

Post: #62

Reading this thread just confirms what i've said before..the best thing you can do is to ask people of your specific ethnicity/race who have been in your target country before and have had first hand experience with the women.

That's the only way to get reliable actionable info.

Post: #63

(10-25-2014 08:57 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  Reading this thread just confirms what i've said before..the best thing you can do is to ask people of your specific ethnicity/race who have been in your target country before and have had first hand experience with the women.

That's the only way to get reliable actionable info.

The best thing is for you to go there yourself and see what is like. Different black guys will have different experience in one specific place. Note, that many of us on here differ in how we dress, the type of women we like, our looks, game level etc. If I like a place, I go there, simple as that.

This thread will just make the non experienced (specially minorities) travelers insecure.

We all know that a white person will have a relative advantage in the majority of places comparing to a non white person, what is the point of telling us that?

Post: #64

(10-25-2014 02:02 AM)ballybally Wrote:  With the risk of sounding racist and very politically incorrect ... Here are my observations from most of west/central EU and few SEA countries:

1: White by huge margin
2: Black

Arabs, Indians and other Asians not only don't gain points anywhere, in most places they are at disadvantage when it comes purely to looks.

It's not fair but that's what I saw and heard from girls. Also:

Meh, a study on okcupid doesn't really mean much. Online dating is far different than in real life, and focusing on this is just going to create negative beliefs. The brown/Asian players on this forum don't think about this shit. What's the point of that post anyway?

Seems like some posters want to boast about their white god factor, and then tell other posters that they're at a disadvantage and won't do well in most of the world. I've seen the same trend play out with looks and height. How does telling someone they are at a disadvantage help them? Sure, there's statistics and all, but focusing on that is just a negative mindset.

I'm not singling out white guys too, there are certain posters on this forum(Global Baller comes to mind) who are obsessed with race and talking about how their race gives them a huge advantage in certain countries.

In any case, posts like that don't help anyone. I understand what 20Nation was trying to accomplish with this post, which was to post a helpful guide to guys based on his personal experience. He's a personal friend and I know he wants everyone to do well. At the same I think the focus on race is a bit too much and people do way too much armchair theorizing based on hearsay. Heck, when I met Roosh in person he was telling me how a brown forum member in Ukraine was doing very well.

Anyways the point of my rant is if you're not a particular race, stop making generalizations about how that race will do. Women are complex creatures and people on the forum make way too many generalizations regarding locations. race. and women. There are guys constantly breaking the rules on what's possible. Girls are constantly breaking the rules on who they fuck.

Also, something interesting. The guys who I meet in real life who are great players do generally well pretty much everywhere, even in locations where they are supposed to not do well according to forum members. The only exceptions being super conservative areas.

Anyways, here's a solid video which explains my views on the whole matter-





In the end, having your dick in a hot girl is the same no matter what color your dick is. Who the fuck cares if you had to be a bit more charismatic or work a little harder than your mythical clone who's of a different race?

Post: #65

(10-24-2014 02:40 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  They will have more trouble with Thai girls from all walks of life due to many factors that we all already know, just the same as a Turk would in many countries.

I am Turkish and I can confirm this. Many girls simply lose any desire to talk to me anymore upon learning that I am from Turkey, even when the initial vibe is very well. This is is especially true in FSU. Some realities will always work against you, I know it's unfair but that's life. Great comment Rio.

Post: #66

(10-21-2014 09:11 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  Ok so as a white guy bleach and highlight my hair, wear blue contacts in Latin America.

As a mostly Southeast/East Asian guy, I guess that should be the path for me, as well, going forward in Latin America...

Post: #67

(10-25-2014 11:45 AM)POASTER Wrote:  . The hottest women - the kinds guys in this forum go for

Post: #68

Wish Neil Skywalker was here to chime in.

What do my fellow brothas think about Brazil? Even many that I have talked to personally here on RVF haven't done too well there. Guys that normally do fine anywhere else. The difference in reception I got in Mexico vs Brazil was immense. To the point that I wouldn't even bother going to Brazil for the women. This is both in real life and spoofing my GPS on Tinder.

Post: #69

@Speakeasy

Exactly what are app are you using to spoof your GPS for Tinder? I'm having nol luck at all doing so.

Post: #70

(10-27-2014 08:29 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  Wish Neil Skywalker was here to chime in.

What do my fellow brothas think about Brazil? Even many that I have talked to personally here on RVF haven't done too well there. Guys that normally do fine anywhere else. The difference in reception I got in Mexico vs Brazil was immense. To the point that I wouldn't even bother going to Brazil for the women. This is both in real life and spoofing my GPS on Tinder.

I had positive responses "in person" in Mex & Brazil. Brazil was mostly through social circles but Mexico was a lot of cold day approaches.

I seem to have 'bad luck' with Tinder (almost no matches). Maybe I need some tips on the pictures and write up.

Post: #71

What are some places where caramel looking Latinos do well? LGF ( Latino god factor)

Post: #72

(11-02-2014 12:39 PM)simondice Wrote:  What are some places where caramel looking Latinos do well? LGF ( Latino god factor)

Basically all of Europe

Post: #73

For the Phils, I've noticed bad reactions from the filipinas whenever I cammed with them if I had a goatee. It wasn't Gandalf long or anything. Very trim and distinguished but for some reason all of them think "Muslim... eww!" when I pressed them on why they didn't like it. Didn't seem to matter that I had white skin or not. Go figure.

The other thing filipinas like are long noses. They see that an instantly think "long-nosed handsome white baby".

Post: #74

(11-02-2014 04:22 PM)Soothesayer Wrote:  For the Phils, I've noticed bad reactions from the filipinas whenever I cammed with them if I had a goatee. It wasn't Gandalf long or anything. Very trim and distinguished but for some reason all of them think "Muslim... eww!" when I pressed them on why they didn't like it. Didn't seem to matter that I had white skin or not. Go figure.

The other thing filipinas like are long noses. They see that an instantly think "long-nosed handsome white baby".

I also noticed that Filipinas don't like goatee that much get a lot more looks/better reactions when clean shaven. For some reason though they seem to prefer a bit longer hair.

Have to disagree with long nose, don't think that's attractive in any colture short(proportionate) nose is usually sign of high androgenic development

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I...012-69.jpg

http://www.phootoscelebrities.com/wp-con...miling.jpg

VS long nose:

http://www.swotti.com/tmp/swotti/cacheYW...brody3.jpg

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110...riends.png

Filipinas themselves have fuckedup, flat,undefined noses (my second biggest issue after wired foreheads) it's very rare to see one with defined "european" kind of nose.