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RE: Military conscription conflicting with being alpha?
(10-17-2014 06:25 AM)Alexanderthelarge Wrote: First of all I didn't ask to be lectured on how to be a obedient soldier; I asked a specific question on how to be alpha in spite of the position my circumstances have forced me to be in.
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RE: Military conscription conflicting with being alpha?
(10-17-2014 11:09 PM)Alexanderthelarge Wrote: So let me get this straight; following orders and being submissive in the context of a military organisation is considered alpha?
Therefore it has been well said that he who has never learned to obey cannot be a good commander. The excellence of the two is not the same, but the good citizen ought to be capable of both ; he should know how to govern as a freeman, and how to obey as a freeman -- these are the excellencies of a citizen.
- Aristotle
Additionally, what Steve McQueen went through during his time in the USMC is quite relevant to what you've described. Initially, he rebelled against rules and authority and got demoted seven times, but later he became disciplined and was assigned to an honor guard before receiving an honorable discharge. The guy was as alpha as anyone, but it didn't stop him from seeing the importance of obeying orders and discipline.
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RE: Military conscription conflicting with being alpha?
(10-16-2014 11:30 AM)Fisto Wrote: (10-16-2014 02:30 AM)Alexanderthelarge Wrote: I'm currently serving my remaining 9 months military conscription. For the record, I hold the rank of lance corporal and the biggest problem I face right now is that I and the other conscripts who aernt officers are constantly being the victims of rank pulling. I've refused to obey orders which were ridiculous from this non commissioned officer and talked myself out of a charge. I've threatened 2 warrant officers with a beating in the toilet (no pun intended) and got charhed with insubordinatiuon which were dropped because there was no proof. How would you handle this in an alpha manner, if you had to be conscripted in the army and had to deal with beta rank pullers constantly? Input from anyone who has been a conscript would be useful. Thanks in advance.
Tuck a little piece of you away, do what you have to and put up with what you can.
You're on short time now.
I was in the Army for 4 years and hated every goddamn second of it. I don't know how I made it out of there without assaulting a superior.
Same here.
I was enlisted in the Army for 5 years and hated from the moment I stepped off the bus at reception until I signed out on terminal leave.
At my last post, I hated all of the NCOs in my section. They were lazy, toxic, selfish, demeaning, and all younger and dumber than me. The NCO Corps is filled with miserable people on a power trip who don't any life other than the Army. They are scared of going to civilian life.
I wanted to knock out my direct supervisor everyday. You are not alone feeling like you can't assert your manhood. The military is setup that you always be someone's bitch.
You're a short-timer. Do your 9 months and get the fuck out and never look back.
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