I am headed back to Kiev in a couple of weeks, and I want to practice my refugee game. Does anyone know where the big Ukraine war refugees centers are? I read about one in a factory in Kiev, although I am still looking for the exact address.
10-15-2014 02:46 PM
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@ohionukes,
No offense but this is some trollin' on an epic scale. However if you are really serious about this stop by Donetsk and post some pictures so we know you are not BS'ing.
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Well, actually I was sort of joking, but only partly. I travel for the cultural experience more than anything, and I thought it would be interesting to visit a camp. On my last trip to Kiev, I spend a lot of time with a 24 year old doctor who told me about bullets flying past her head as she tried to help the people shot in Maiden square during the recent revolution.
I think it would be very interesting if I would be lucky to meet someone there, just to get first hand stories of their experiences. And if I could brighten her day with a nice dinner and night on the town (without expectations), I don't see the harm in that. My travels have never been driven by flag acquisition (although there is nothing wrong with that) - I just thought it would be something interesting and possibly fun to do.
10-15-2014 11:39 PM
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(10-15-2014 11:39 PM)ohionukes Wrote: Well, actually I was sort of joking, but only partly. I travel for the cultural experience more than anything, and I thought it would be interesting to visit a camp. On my last trip to Kiev, I spend a lot of time with a 24 year old doctor who told me about bullets flying past her head as she tried to help the people shot in Maiden square during the recent revolution.
I think it would be very interesting if I would be lucky to meet someone there, just to get first hand stories of their experiences. And if I could brighten her day with a nice dinner and night on the town (without expectations), I don't see the harm in that. My travels have never been driven by flag acquisition (although there is nothing wrong with that) - I just thought it would be something interesting and possibly fun to do.
just come to Kiev half of Donetsk is here. But seriously this war in the east is not a joke and nobody here is giving u free pussy bc you are some savior from the West. Gimme a break.
Maybe try Dallas and u can save some damsel in distress from the rapidly spreading Ebola virus?
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(10-15-2014 11:39 PM)ohionukes Wrote: Well, actually I was sort of joking, but only partly. I travel for the cultural experience more than anything, and I thought it would be interesting to visit a camp. On my last trip to Kiev, I spend a lot of time with a 24 year old doctor who told me about bullets flying past her head as she tried to help the people shot in Maiden square during the recent revolution.
I think it would be very interesting if I would be lucky to meet someone there, just to get first hand stories of their experiences. And if I could brighten her day with a nice dinner and night on the town (without expectations), I don't see the harm in that. My travels have never been driven by flag acquisition (although there is nothing wrong with that) - I just thought it would be something interesting and possibly fun to do.
just come to Kiev half of Donetsk is here. But seriously this war in the east is not a joke and nobody here is giving u free pussy bc you are some savior from the West. Gimme a break.
Maybe try Dallas and u can save some damsel in distress from the rapidly spreading Ebola virus?
Agreed...Seems that idea is encouraging EXTRACTION. Obviously if it was strictly platonic he would invite a male right sector gopnik to dinner and drinks
There are plenty of women who have NO OTHER experience than getting out of bed , sending e mails to westerners professing undying vampire eternal love, and looking for guys on Maiden,westerners, to buy them dinner and a night out on the town. Rinse and repeat! Done in 1999. Done today.
You didn't need Maiden to find girls like that. The so called doctors were doing that before. After all they get paid shit. But then AGAIN most Doctors I dated were 24-25 so I hardly felt honored dating girls who medical education was condensed into a few short years of study in a school where she probably paid the instructors for her grades.
*Most of the bullets were fired from there own side while they were lighting the Molotov cocktails.
Here is my experience in Ukrainian hospital with the SO CALLED DOCTORS:
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(10-16-2014 12:11 PM)Akula Wrote: just come to Kiev half of Donetsk is here. But seriously this war in the east is not a joke and nobody here is giving u free pussy bc you are some savior from the West.
Totally agree. It doesn't seem a wise idea, and not for a matter of morality. With all those ukrainan guys gone to the war-zone risking their life for the country, being a love tourist surely won't make you appear as a giant of alpha masculinity.
10-16-2014 01:47 PM
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(10-16-2014 12:11 PM)Akula Wrote: just come to Kiev half of Donetsk is here. But seriously this war in the east is not a joke and nobody here is giving u free pussy bc you are some savior from the West.
Totally agree. It doesn't seem a wise idea, and not for a matter of morality. With all those ukrainan guys gone to the war-zone risking their life for the country, being a love tourist surely won't make you appear as a giant of alpha masculinity.
Totally agree, though ohionukes could do an honorable deed and perhaps contact the US Army or UN agency and deliver some MRE's (Meals Ready to Eat) or perhaps even spend a couple grand of his own money and buy some toiletries for the refugees, that would go further in getting notice from the refugee beauties than any PUA game methods.
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10-16-2014 09:07 PM
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(10-16-2014 09:07 PM)TripleG Wrote: Totally agree, though ohionukes could do an honorable deed and perhaps contact the US Army or UN agency and deliver some MRE's (Meals Ready to Eat) or perhaps even spend a couple grand of his own money and buy some toiletries for the refugees, that would go further in getting notice from the refugee beauties than any PUA game methods.
Do you mean he could go and deliver them protein shake?
10-16-2014 10:20 PM
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(10-16-2014 12:11 PM)Akula Wrote: just come to Kiev half of Donetsk is here. But seriously this war in the east is not a joke and nobody here is giving u free pussy bc you are some savior from the West.
Totally agree. It doesn't seem a wise idea, and not for a matter of morality. With all those ukrainan guys gone to the war-zone risking their life for the country, being a love tourist surely won't make you appear as a giant of alpha masculinity.
Totally agree, though ohionukes could do an honorable deed and perhaps contact the US Army or UN agency and deliver some MRE's (Meals Ready to Eat) or perhaps even spend a couple grand of his own money and buy some toiletries for the refugees, that would go further in getting notice from the refugee beauties than any PUA game methods.
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10-16-2014 10:33 PM
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(10-15-2014 11:39 PM)ohionukes Wrote: Well, actually I was sort of joking, but only partly. I travel for the cultural experience more than anything, and I thought it would be interesting to visit a camp. On my last trip to Kiev, I spend a lot of time with a 24 year old doctor who told me about bullets flying past her head as she tried to help the people shot in Maiden square during the recent revolution.
I think it would be very interesting if I would be lucky to meet someone there, just to get first hand stories of their experiences. And if I could brighten her day with a nice dinner and night on the town (without expectations), I don't see the harm in that. My travels have never been driven by flag acquisition (although there is nothing wrong with that) - I just thought it would be something interesting and possibly fun to do.
just come to Kiev half of Donetsk is here. But seriously this war in the east is not a joke and . Gimme a break.
Maybe try Dallas and u can save some damsel in distress from the rapidly spreading Ebola virus?
..."nobody here is giving u free pussy bc you are some savior from the West."
Is there evidence for this statement or a hypothesis? I am not sure why all the moralist attitudes. "Game is where you find it." - and you can quote me on that.
(10-16-2014 09:07 PM)TripleG Wrote: Totally agree, though ohionukes could do an honorable deed and perhaps contact the US Army or UN agency and deliver some MRE's (Meals Ready to Eat) or perhaps even spend a couple grand of his own money and buy some toiletries for the refugees, that would go further in getting notice from the refugee beauties than any PUA game methods.
Do you mean he could go and deliver them protein shake?
Actually - I thought about bringing happy meals to all the kids. Do you think that would be purseved negatively?
10-17-2014 10:46 AM
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(10-16-2014 09:07 PM)TripleG Wrote: Totally agree, though ohionukes could do an honorable deed and perhaps contact the US Army or UN agency and deliver some MRE's (Meals Ready to Eat) or perhaps even spend a couple grand of his own money and buy some toiletries for the refugees, that would go further in getting notice from the refugee beauties than any PUA game methods.
Do you mean he could go and deliver them protein shake?
Actually - I thought about bringing happy meals to all the kids. Do you think that would be purseved negatively?
Believe me there's no moralism, but delivering happy meals to poor kids in order to get laid seems to me the hail Mary of the beta, and I think some girls may notice it too, considering also that ukrainan women are not chump.
Of course this doesn't mean you don't have chances to get laid, and personally I wish you good luck.
(10-16-2014 09:07 PM)TripleG Wrote: Totally agree, though ohionukes could do an honorable deed and perhaps contact the US Army or UN agency and deliver some MRE's (Meals Ready to Eat) or perhaps even spend a couple grand of his own money and buy some toiletries for the refugees, that would go further in getting notice from the refugee beauties than any PUA game methods.
Do you mean he could go and deliver them protein shake?
I think the only shake that will happen is from a big mean Ukranian bloke around Ohionukes throat
I thought this was trolling when I first saw it and I still think it is despite OP's arguments.
This has to be the most underhanded way of going for pussy that I have ever heard of. If you are familiar with Krauser' definition of 'gamma', this fits perfectly. And I think giving this idea credibility is dangerous for our reputation, please excuse me if I am 'concern trolling'. The paradox is that by posting this idea here you have already admitted your aims are not altruistic, so I don't see how you can defend it in such a manner.
Going beyond the gammaness of the idea, this has already not passed the smell test of members here who have been to Ukraine. Only the most gullible Ukrainian girl would not pepper you with questions such as why you were motivated to do this, what does your wife/gf think and/or why are you single, how did you find the place, etc.
Even if you aren't called out you will likely be forced to spend a lot more time with Ukrainian men involved with the shelter to keep your cover, and they will likely be even more suspicious of your motives.
10-17-2014 02:47 PM
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(10-15-2014 11:39 PM)ohionukes Wrote: Well, actually I was sort of joking, but only partly. I travel for the cultural experience more than anything, and I thought it would be interesting to visit a camp. On my last trip to Kiev, I spend a lot of time with a 24 year old doctor who told me about bullets flying past her head as she tried to help the people shot in Maiden square during the recent revolution.
I think it would be very interesting if I would be lucky to meet someone there, just to get first hand stories of their experiences. And if I could brighten her day with a nice dinner and night on the town (without expectations), I don't see the harm in that. My travels have never been driven by flag acquisition (although there is nothing wrong with that) - I just thought it would be something interesting and possibly fun to do.
just come to Kiev half of Donetsk is here. But seriously this war in the east is not a joke and . Gimme a break.
Maybe try Dallas and u can save some damsel in distress from the rapidly spreading Ebola virus?
..."nobody here is giving u free pussy bc you are some savior from the West."
Is there evidence for this statement or a hypothesis? I am not sure why all the moralist attitudes. "Game is where you find it." - and you can quote me on that.
Honestly maybe you should just read the Ukraine III thread and see what everyone's been writing there. Lot of good stuff in there that details how the "western savior" effect doesn't seem to be in play for most guys. And the 'evidence' is what I've seen, read, heard and experienced in my couple months here so far. I guess I'm about as good a voice on it as you'd find, along with the other posters in the Ukraine threads. And I don't know what is so "moralist" about what I and others have written - did not mean it in that sense.
Anyway, I have not heard of these shelters but would think it would be a bad idea to prey on the misfortune of others and also would probably be pretty dangerous as well given how desperate these people are right now. I'd assume that they are under surveillance and have guards too hence not exactly "pussy paradises."
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10-17-2014 04:14 PM
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(10-15-2014 11:39 PM)ohionukes Wrote: Well, actually I was sort of joking, but only partly. I travel for the cultural experience more than anything, and I thought it would be interesting to visit a camp. On my last trip to Kiev, I spend a lot of time with a 24 year old doctor who told me about bullets flying past her head as she tried to help the people shot in Maiden square during the recent revolution.
I think it would be very interesting if I would be lucky to meet someone there, just to get first hand stories of their experiences. And if I could brighten her day with a nice dinner and night on the town (without expectations), I don't see the harm in that. My travels have never been driven by flag acquisition (although there is nothing wrong with that) - I just thought it would be something interesting and possibly fun to do.
just come to Kiev half of Donetsk is here. But seriously this war in the east is not a joke and . Gimme a break.
Maybe try Dallas and u can save some damsel in distress from the rapidly spreading Ebola virus?
..."nobody here is giving u free pussy bc you are some savior from the West."
Is there evidence for this statement or a hypothesis? I am not sure why all the moralist attitudes. "Game is where you find it." - and you can quote me on that.
Honestly maybe you should just read the Ukraine III thread and see what everyone's been writing there. Lot of good stuff in there that details how the "western savior" effect doesn't seem to be in play for most guys. And the 'evidence' is what I've seen, read, heard and experienced in my couple months here so far. I guess I'm about as good a voice on it as you'd find, along with the other posters in the Ukraine threads. And I don't know what is so "moralist" about what I and others have written - did not mean it in that sense.
Anyway, I have not heard of these shelters but would think it would be a bad idea to prey on the misfortune of others and also would probably be pretty dangerous as well given how desperate these people are right now. I'd assume that they are under surveillance and have guards too hence not exactly "pussy paradises."
Exactly...I would also expect most of them also hating western folks since being from Eastern UA they blame West for Maiden. Regardless if they support pro Russians separatists or not doesn't change the fact that the majority from the regions were against the WESTERN supported Maiden.
Personally if I was from Donetsk and the gov't shelled me out of my home I would run to the nearest fat American and drop a stone on his head. Just me.
(10-16-2014 12:11 PM)Akula Wrote: just come to Kiev half of Donetsk is here. But seriously this war in the east is not a joke and nobody here is giving u free pussy bc you are some savior from the West.
Totally agree. It doesn't seem a wise idea, and not for a matter of morality. With all those Ukrainian guys gone to the war-zone risking their life for the country, being a love tourist surely won't make you appear as a giant of alpha masculinity.
"all those Ukrainian guys gone to the war-zone"?? All 450 of them? I mean, it's not exactly as if half of Ukrainian guys had volunteered to actually go fight...
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