Post: #251

ive been to stockholm and roosh is right, they are bit feisty, a few negs and a bit of aloofness will get you a long way.

Post: #252

Quote:Or you will never know..

But I do know. There is little doubt on what I will find in Sweden, Norway, or Finland. When I want what they have, I will visit. Right now I don't.

Post: #253

(05-03-2011 11:28 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:Or you will never know..

But I do know. There is little doubt on what I will find in Sweden, Norway, or Finland. When I want what they have, I will visit. Right now I don't.

Fair enough
Can't wait to hear about Poland...

Post: #254

Roosh I’m sorry you didn’t enjoy yourself in Denmark. I always had a good time in Copenhagen although I only experienced it weekends at a time and not an extended period of time as you have.

I certainly recognise the confident/arrogant attitude that allot of Scandinavians have. But is something that I always found endearing about them.

I think you will find the Polish to be quite different. I’m currently based in Krakow and I see a big difference in the attitudes of the people here compared to Western and Northern Europe.

I think the language barrier might be a bit of a challenge but if you learn a little bit of Polish it will make such a big difference.

Post: #255

(04-26-2011 08:40 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

(04-25-2011 08:54 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:What did you find about swedish girls a turn-off?

They are just brash and arrogant. They can talk smack about your culture, but you can't say anything about theirs. They also insult you as a flirting technique. One girl railed off my flaws for 5 minutes then asked me to buy her a drink.

Hummm.. Sounds to me like you need to game them as you would an normal 18 year old who knows she's hot. But, unless you look like a college pro Athlete, who can make the cover of Mens Health magazine, these hot girls are tough to crack open for an average looking guy.

However, you are right. Not worth flying thousands of miles across the Atlantic to deal with women that are 10x more arrogant/bitchy than your own backyard. I'll stick to Canada/Iceland then.

Mixx

To be all and fair, Mixx, you may want to get a data sheet from someone who looks like you for a fair chance of how you will do in your desired countries.

One of the reasons I came on this forum was to get some input from someone who looks like me. These things can make glaring differences in how well one does in a particular location.

Some places were I can be beating women off with a stick may have other guys unable to even get eye contact and vice versa.

As said before, this portuguese cat from my workplace LOVES Toronto and always cleans up. He has also hit one of the most difficult flags for me to acquire in the western hemisphere which is an authentic SOUTH EAST ASIAN flag on more than one occasion.

He said it was no sweat. On sheer cultural restrictions, I have this opp taken away from me time and time again.

So my point is, unless you look similar to roosh, it is highly likely you will experience different results.

Post: #256

A South East Asian flag?? Any country in specific or just any from SE Asia?

Post: #257

(05-03-2011 01:18 PM)Gringo Wrote:  A South East Asian flag?? Any country in specific or just any from SE Asia?

India, Pakistan, Goa, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh. I cannot penetrate that circle for the love of money.

Post: #258

None of those countries are in se asia

Post: #259

(05-03-2011 02:54 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(05-03-2011 01:18 PM)Gringo Wrote:  A South East Asian flag?? Any country in specific or just any from SE Asia?

India, Pakistan, Goa, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh. I cannot penetrate that circle for the love of money.

You aren't missing much.

Post: #260

(05-03-2011 02:56 PM)Lumiere Wrote:  None of those countries are in se asia

Okay, dude, you got me, as you can tell, geography is really not my forte...I only know the locations of countries that I travel to...it's a weakness I'm trying to work on..

Post: #261

(05-03-2011 02:56 PM)Lumiere Wrote:  None of those countries are in se asia

And Goa isn't a country it's a state in India.

Post: #262

(05-03-2011 02:54 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(05-03-2011 01:18 PM)Gringo Wrote:  A South East Asian flag?? Any country in specific or just any from SE Asia?

India, Pakistan, Goa, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh. I cannot penetrate that circle for the love of money.

Dude, I'm an westernized Indian and its hard for me to approach Indian girls. I think the best way to find them is through social circle game.

Post: #263

(05-03-2011 05:31 PM)torontokid Wrote:  

(05-03-2011 02:54 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(05-03-2011 01:18 PM)Gringo Wrote:  A South East Asian flag?? Any country in specific or just any from SE Asia?

India, Pakistan, Goa, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh. I cannot penetrate that circle for the love of money.

Dude, I'm an westernized Indian and its hard for me to approach Indian girls. I think the best way to find them is through social circle game.

Oh, I have no problem approaching them. I'll approach any woman at some point. The closest I've ever gotten was dating a Bangladesh woman who was eyeing me down in Spice Room.
We went on one date, we happened to select a venue where a small assortment of South Asian guys were also congregated and my gut told me it was a wrap as far as any progression of intimacy.
Sure enough, at the end of the night (in the privacy of the parking lot) as I was about to depart, I leaned in for a kiss and she recoiled as if I had hydrochloric acid on my lips.

That's just how it goes. One of my close friends born in Toronto to Indian parents already substantiated the scoop for me.

I just gotta put in work. To take a page out of Mixx and Roosh's book, we need a much larger sample size (go out and swoop more)

If you have to take numbers and cannot close, have at least 10 numbers. From that 10, have at least 7 strong..and from the 7 strong..have at least 3 reliable regular bangs.

From that type of sample, then one can truly comment honestly. Without that, one (myself included) are just fooling themselves.

Post: #264

(05-03-2011 12:59 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(04-26-2011 08:40 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

(04-25-2011 08:54 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:What did you find about swedish girls a turn-off?

They are just brash and arrogant. They can talk smack about your culture, but you can't say anything about theirs. They also insult you as a flirting technique. One girl railed off my flaws for 5 minutes then asked me to buy her a drink.

Hummm.. Sounds to me like you need to game them as you would an normal 18 year old who knows she's hot. But, unless you look like a college pro Athlete, who can make the cover of Mens Health magazine, these hot girls are tough to crack open for an average looking guy.

However, you are right. Not worth flying thousands of miles across the Atlantic to deal with women that are 10x more arrogant/bitchy than your own backyard. I'll stick to Canada/Iceland then.

Mixx

To be all and fair, Mixx, you may want to get a data sheet from someone who looks like you for a fair chance of how you will do in your desired countries.

One of the reasons I came on this forum was to get some input from someone who looks like me. These things can make glaring differences in how well one does in a particular location.

Some places were I can be beating women off with a stick may have other guys unable to even get eye contact and vice versa.

As said before, this portuguese cat from my workplace LOVES Toronto and always cleans up. He has also hit one of the most difficult flags for me to acquire in the western hemisphere which is an authentic SOUTH EAST ASIAN flag on more than one occasion.

He said it was no sweat. On sheer cultural restrictions, I have this opp taken away from me time and time again.

So my point is, unless you look similar to roosh, it is highly likely you will experience different results.

Well said Moma, everyone's experience will be different and you can only gauge by someone of a similar look or ethnic background. Having been to Sweden/Norway I can say it is a great place for a black man.
This has been covered on another post, so I will leave it at that.

The Indian market is tough b/c they tend to prefer Caucasian men, but like Luckystar said you are not missing much. lol Although I notice alot of Indian women have great breasts.

Post: #265

Guys, I am an Indian living in India and I am completely fed up with the girls in my country!
They tend to be beautiful and nice... and thats it! Stop right there!
I don't understand wtf is problem with the girls in my country.
The effort it takes for me to initiate the conversation with some Indian girl - the same effort lands up to a drink or so with a Western chick (Polish, German, Russian, Ukrainian and Spaniard experienced so far )

Kindly get a flag from my country! I invite you all !
(And give some tips as well!)

Post: #266

Roosh is not kidding about Danish girls being ugly. At first I thought that he might be exagerating after
having been spoiled by Brazil.

I just had dinner at Sizzex in DC at Foggy Bottom that attracts a lot of tour groups. A group of around 50 danes walked in with me. I think that they were probably a bunch of 16 year old high school
(gymnasium) students with their teachers. Since I did not want to go to jail (and I was in a bad mood and don't get along with danes very well), I kept my distance, but it was definitely NOT a struggle.
The best girl I spotted was maybe a 6.5. As Roosh said, they are not as fat (note he never says "they are not fat") as American chicks, but that's it. They left quite a bit to be desired in the face department. If this group contained a randomized sample of 16 year old Danish girls, it completely confirmed everything that he has said.

FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm half danish but have not been back to denmark in over 10 years, and knew nothing of game the last time I was there. Though even then I always thought the reality of Scandinavian women did not match the hype.

Post: #267

(05-23-2011 07:11 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  Though even then I always thought the reality of Scandinavian women did not match the hype.

You need to break it down, don't throw all Scandinavian nationalities in there.

Post: #268

Can we also please put this shit into perspective?

1) Its a wealthy country, and like it not, money talks in Sweden. Backpackers are going hungry
2) Being a latino looking guy is not going to be an advantage of any sort, you might as well be from Turkey.
3) Being American is not going to be an advantage of any sort
4) The capital cities see shitloads of tourists and foreigners
5) Its highly feminized. These are not countries, they are covens
6) The women are a little more serious. Treating them like little girls or acting like a clown may work with our washed up sluts, its not going to work to the same degree with European women.

Pussy in western and northern Europe ticks differently chaps. You need to adapt to different cultures.

You need to establish a social circle quickly for one. The key to landing lays there is to make friends with the local GUYS, not the chicks. They include you in their social circle which opens up doors for you in a massive way with the chicks. You crack invites to parties, you get introduced to people. Europeans tend to be very hospitable people and they love to entertain. Chicks come and go, but make friends in some places and returning holidays make it even easier for you.

You cant game these broads the same way you do back home either. They actually value intelligence and culture still. Its not like Australia, the UK or the USA where the lowest common denominator is what they want to fuck. Flirty conversation about something a little more serious does 10 times more than aloofness, negs and cocky, funny bullshit routines.

If you are going to do wealthy countries you need to make sure you have a bit of a bankroll. You may get away with it if you are under 23, but past that point you need to have a few bucks on you. Just the way it is. Dont make excuses or try to find some justification for why you dont need money. Cash counts, just the way it is. If you dont have a decent bankroll, you have to work harder.

Post: #269

I think everyone knows that having money and a social circle will work just about everywhere but it appears that Scandinavia requires a bit more which in turn gives a lower return on investment and time.

Post: #270

(05-24-2011 01:19 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

(05-23-2011 07:11 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  Though even then I always thought the reality of Scandinavian women did not match the hype.

You need to break it down, don't throw all Scandinavian nationalities in there.

Chicks in other Scandinavian/Nordic nationalities might be somewhat better looking (though I could never see the difference). That doesn't mean that they're good enough to justify the hype around them (and imo they're not).

Post: #271

beta_plus:

What "hype"? The one on this board?

Post: #272

(05-24-2011 03:27 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  Can we also please put this shit into perspective?

1) Its a wealthy country, and like it not, money talks in Sweden. Backpackers are going hungry
2) Being a latino looking guy is not going to be an advantage of any sort, you might as well be from Turkey.
3) Being American is not going to be an advantage of any sort
4) The capital cities see shitloads of tourists and foreigners
5) Its highly feminized. These are not countries, they are covens
6) The women are a little more serious. Treating them like little girls or acting like a clown may work with our washed up sluts, its not going to work to the same degree with European women.

Pussy in western and northern Europe ticks differently chaps. You need to adapt to different cultures.

You need to establish a social circle quickly for one. The key to landing lays there is to make friends with the local GUYS, not the chicks. They include you in their social circle which opens up doors for you in a massive way with the chicks. You crack invites to parties, you get introduced to people. Europeans tend to be very hospitable people and they love to entertain. Chicks come and go, but make friends in some places and returning holidays make it even easier for you.

You cant game these broads the same way you do back home either. They actually value intelligence and culture still. Its not like Australia, the UK or the USA where the lowest common denominator is what they want to fuck. Flirty conversation about something a little more serious does 10 times more than aloofness, negs and cocky, funny bullshit routines.

If you are going to do wealthy countries you need to make sure you have a bit of a bankroll. You may get away with it if you are under 23, but past that point you need to have a few bucks on you. Just the way it is. Dont make excuses or try to find some justification for why you dont need money. Cash counts, just the way it is. If you dont have a decent bankroll, you have to work harder.

Just to add my two cents,I agree with you partially.

From my experience ethnicity/background does impact your results. It's crystal clear, read that post about Roosh's Danish friend in Latin America or any thread about a Black man in Scandinavia.Or Mixx in Slovenia.

But clearly is not true that if you are a black man in Scandinavia for instance,
that you don't have to game or maximize your looks.Race will not get the job done for you.

It's all about approaching and having game skills.Relying only on Money/Looks is easy and obvious, you don't need game for that so that goes in the wrong track of what this forum is all about. As long as you are stylish and have a tight game, you don't need to rely on looks/money.

Or else only Rich and Handsome Playboys would be collecting flags around the world and that's not what happens.

Post: #273

But I agree with the importance of Social Circle and that Culture/Intelligence gives you and edge,makes you an interesting guy to talk to and not just another swole troll trying to get laid at any cost.

Post: #274

(05-24-2011 08:07 AM)Mr.GM Wrote:  Just to add my two cents,I agree with you partially.

From my experience ethnicity/background does impact your results. It's crystal clear, read that post about Roosh's Danish friend in Latin America or any thread about a Black man in Scandinavia.Or Mixx in Slovenia.

But clearly is not true that if you are a black man in Scandinavia for instance,
that you don't have to game or maximize your looks.Race will not get the job done for you.

It's all about approaching and having game skills.Relying only on Money/Looks is easy and obvious, you don't need game for that so that goes in the wrong track of what this forum is all about. As long as you are stylish and have a tight game, you don't need to rely on looks/money.

Or else only Rich and Handsome Playboys would be collecting flags around the world and that's not what happens.

Stylish with tight game? Lets be a little realistic here. Dressing like Dapper Dan and throwing your American manners around the room is not going to result in women throwing themselves at you. "Game" is still seeing Roosh having to work the numbers. Yes, you will probably get pussy, but there is more to it than simple semantics like race. This is why so many people complain about Spain and Argentina, or why we now have people saying that Sweden is a tough place to land a fuck. You need to take local culture into account.

What works in Brazil is not going to work in Sweden. What works in the USA is not going to work in Russia.

Sweden is easy as shit to get laid in with the right approach. So is the USA, Australia, Canada, the UK. All the feminist covens are infested with sluts who are fucking for female power. They are down to fuck the same night in most cases if you press the right buttons and you hit on her when she was in the right frame of mind. You want to know who the easiest women are to fuck? Find a western anglo chick on holiday. She probably sucked 3 cocks that day already.

Is Mixx is a latino? Do you have any idea what the average Eastern European thinks of muslims, turks and other people from the middle east at the moment? Even if they thought you were Greek or Italian, you are on the back foot.

It has nothing to do with his ethnicity, it has to do with the fact that he is probably being a fun guy from a place that interests these chicks. He is not some social retard from Italy or Turkey telling her she has nice tits and he will buy her dinner if she fucks him. Money is important in eastern Europe, more so the further east you go. You are never going to get away from that and anyone who says money is not important is not fucking with any regularity in eastern europe. Not quality anyway. Those women want the man from the 40's and 50's, not the modern day metro who likes to go dutch on his dates. You make money, she sucks dick after she cooked you dinner. This is the way they think and it should be embraced

A lot of the eastern euro women though are very conservative. You are not going to walk into Romania or Poland and start fucking your lungs out overnight without some luck.

Does that mean you wont land the ONS in these places? Of course not, the chances are good everywhere that if you play the numbers, you are not a mutant and you can hold your shit together, you are going to slay a few dragons and princesses along the way. Its just unrealistic to think that a few decent threads, a few witty jokes and your mother and fathers birthplace are all that really count.

90% of the time, the hardest part when it comes to gaming chicks in your own back yard is breaking the ice and getting through the bitch shields. From there, building interest is again not that easy, purely because she saw 20 other monkeys pulling some similar sort of routine. You have to create shit out of thin air and use all manner of fucked up psychology to generate interest with our bitches. Trust me, the local Brazilian guys or Polish guys are going through the same shit we do in many cases.

Any foreigner that she is mildly attracted to is going to have an easier time of it. More to talk about, more to interest and intrigue her. You could talk to her for 10 days and still not cover everything. It builds rapport quickly. Thats why you are pulling more dude. You build comfort way, way sooner. Comfort and attraction = railing her doggy within a couple of hours or couple of drinks. Whatever comes first.

Your ethnicity will play some role in that, but it really is not that big a deal.

Post: #275

(05-24-2011 09:43 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  Any foreigner that she is mildly attracted to is going to have an easier time of it. More to talk about, more to interest and intrigue her. You could talk to her for 10 days and still not cover everything. It builds rapport quickly. Thats why you are pulling more dude. You build comfort way, way sooner. Comfort and attraction = railing her doggy within a couple of hours or couple of drinks. Whatever comes first.

Your ethnicity will play some role in that, but it really is not that big a deal.

Yes,I have to agree with that.When you r a foreigner,Its easy to "open".
And yes, middle eastern looking guys are having a tough time in Europe because of the mass migration,terrorism etc.Guys who look "Arab" may have to work a lil bit harder these days.