You are OP very early on. There are some extremely hard levels in the expansion Hearts of Stone.

I didn't think Blood and Wine was hard at all, the items you get are so OP. It was fun, and I heartily recommend the expansions but I definitely had to turn down the difficulty for hearts of stone.

What's some games where you stopped to just enjoy the view? Like on a tall peak in Skyrim or something.

Red Dead Redemption 2 has amazing vistas. Fantastic. Witcher 3 was also quite decent though naturally RDR came out later and from Rockstar... God of War also looks phenomenal.

Oh, allow me to recommend a game series... Yakuza! It's bloody amazing, despite being very Japanese and odd at times. I'd recommend you starting in Zero, then 1,2,3,4,5,6... which are all being either remade or remastered into the PS4. Great saga with a magnificent and stoic protagonist.

Anyone have favorite games that are widely disliked?

I loved Duke Nukem Forever... One of my favorite shooters. The raunchy/low-brow humor was very funny to me.

I'm sure part of the reason it was panned is because it is absolutely not politically correct.

It was panned because it was a garbage game. I played the shit out of duke3d back in high school, and DNF is a piece of shit boring ass disgrace compared to it.
I didn't even finish it, it was just a mediocre boring fps.

Ty the Tasmanian tiger was my favorite childhood game....EVERYBODY hated it

Pretty much all the wrestling games were better than traditional fighting games to me

Mafia 3 was a fun fun game to me also the 2 godfather games were great fun...most people hated those games
(Speaking of which, mafia 2 might have had the best atmosphere of any game...you felt like u was actually there. It felt different.)

I actually loved splinter cell black list.

The first 3 saints rows were amazing.

Ecco the dolphin for the p21 was weirdly amazing. I would just swim around for hours (I was maybe 6 when it came out)

I really enjoyed the older zoo tycoon WAAAY more than zoo tycoon 2

Anybody here young enough to remember the humongous games? Like Freddy fish, sly fox, the Amazon game, etc

Captain crunch had a game out when I was young that blew my mind at the time, cluefinders was also a childhood game that most people hated but I loved

Also dinosaur adventure 3D and 3D dinosaur adventures...both were very different but critical to my childhood

My all time favorite games I found out were hated...the magic school bus games.

I didn't know captain crunch had a game, but I wouldn't have doubted it.
I enjoyed Chex Quest, doom engine game promoted by chex cereal back in the day.

Does anyone play Rocket League?

Not a huge gamer but this game is like crack

Might download Shenmue...

The thing about TW3 is that, aside from some gameplay it nails just about everything dead on.

Storytelling/plotting, immersion, graphics/sound, characters, play length and playability.

And even the gameplay, while not kickass (it ain't God of War...which Creepin can't play because he's got an XboxOne - strange I thought only women bought those) is still not terrible: menus, fast travel, some interior maps and combat just needed tweaking.

I hate to keep bringing up RDR2, but for all it did well...the controls were fucked - not that you couldn't use them but it's gonna take 10-15 hours to get comfortable - and they really lost the plot with plotting around the end of chapter 4.

1. TW3
2. God of War
3. RDR2

Those are my top 3 ps4 games and then it gets murky (is Horizon better than Assassins Creed Origins?)

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Games I loved that others hated?

I don't think anyone hated Chrono Cross, but I might be one of like three people who liked it more than Chrono Trigger.

Not that CT didn't kick ass but Cross is like a work of art.

I mean look at this shit, it's like the game was painted in oils!

And the music!

I'll admit about RDR2 that it's the closest a game has come to launching a better soundtrack since Chrono Cross came out like twenty years ago but still...

Scars of Time
Prisoners of Fate
Radical Dreamers

I fucking wept the first time I heard some of these tracks!

I also liked the Sega Genesis era Sonic games.

I had a buddy* at the time huge into JRPGs like me but he refused to play FFX because quote 'the hero looks like a chick!'

Sure it's got some cringe shit like this, but it's also got some mad wild plot turns and badass moments like this totally unexpected fuckery at about 1:10.

* - in irony visible from Neptune he came out of the closet like five years ago...

(04-21-2019 03:54 AM)LeightonBlackstock Wrote:  Does anyone play Rocket League?

Not a huge gamer but this game is like crack

Might download Shenmue...

I like Rocket League because you can pick it and play, but there's so much to master. Its a genius idea, like something that you'd dream up as a kid, I wish I was the head of the small developer that had an idea that mushroomed like RL has.

You on PS4/PC?

(04-21-2019 09:45 AM)Nonpareil Wrote:  =
I had a buddy* at the time huge into JRPGs like me but he refused to play FFX because quote 'the hero looks like a chick!'

Sure it's got some cringe shit like this, but it's also got some mad wild plot turns and badass moments like this totally unexpected fuckery at about 1:10.

* - in irony visible from Neptune he came out of the closet like five years ago...

If I ever wrote a book, I'd hope it'd have the effect on me that FFX had. I found the cringe only crept into JRPG's when they become overtly anime influenced and less influenced by real world designs. That laughing scene you posted actually becomes tragic in retrospect and even more cringy for us and him because he didn't know what she was heading to and she was only playing along, you were the only one of the group that didn't know, no one would tell you the red pill much like real life. Had to figure it out himself...

Back in the mid-late 90's/early 2000's JRPG's were one of the only places in gaming you could get immersive novel-like stories.

As someone who holds those latter Squaresoft games in the highest esteem and played them as they were released, FFX has the most powerful themes and best told/mature story in the series (more so than Tactics) It felt so cohesive. All the small ambient elements throughout play into the story of the world. You don't need to read data logs, its all there. I liked how there was no villain of such and you were fighting a force of nature and the inertia of a society that was trapped almost willingly, from your perspective. The twists were indeed insane and the ending is beyond words. I've never seen a ending in a game, be so complete and emotional.

It also has that amazing turned based underwater football game known as Blitzball that was addictive as could be, my neighbour and I would treat like it was Football Manager.

But anyways, FFVI-X, you can't go wrong with any of them, they were the CD Project of their day.

They always had "DURRR STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERS TM", (which isn't important, more like well written and believable motivations) long before that was something we knew would become a battering ram in entertainment

So clearly inspired by Indonesia and Okinawa the setting, she'd sending their souls to the afterlife after a massacre. The direction, music....so dignified and classy.

Also feminity, not scalextric haircuts and a girl actually worthy dying for:





Those HD remaster faces in the gameplay look awful though, in 2002, they looked well...real.

The whole lead up to this was thrilling:





This mofo as your guide:





So compelling:

Final Fantasy X was truly a great game.

Ironically I was a 10 year old as well and just starting to get interested in girls. Safe to say that Yuna absolutely ruined my expectations for romance Even today after dating some girls, I feel a certain "freshness" when I remember these times. I suppose every man has the fantasy of loving wildly and infinitely!

Curiously, it made me realize at an early age how DIFFERENT, but equally important, female "strength" was, not due to sheer brute force or even intelligence and cunning. But virtue, determination and sacrifice. Quite awful that we have women trying to be men, when they will always be a lesser version if they try to be like us.

Certainly not the best game of all time, not even the best JRPG and probably not even the best FF, but it does have a special place in my heart!

Oh X was the shit, too bad they kinda took a shit on it with X2 but it was a damn fine game.

I got the game for I believe my 17th birthday, a special time for me as well.

This 'no strong female characters, we demand you basement dwelling virgin programmers make some!' which is the height of hilarity because it isn't 'no strong female characters, I know! I'll write and program a game with some of them myself!' and fuckin every Final Fantasy game has good, compelling female characters who are 'strong' whatever that means - this game had three of them as mains for fucks sake!

The Sphere Grid was excellent but if you level high enough you can hack it so every party member is the same, but at least it was different.

The setting was fantastic, but I didn't like how linear the game was.

The music was great, but some of the voice acting was suspect.

At the time the graphics were like 'whoa!'

I did not like Blitzball, but the Monster Arena and international version Dark aeons were killer.

The story is basically Buddhist-inspired Romeo and Juliet, and as mentioned previously by me, despite the linearity, it was perfectly plotted. The ending also definitely had ninjas chopping onions in my room.

But the real sad thing? This was it for the series. Not that FFXII wasn't cool, but it felt more like a political intrigue thriller (like a game like Suikoden) than a 'save the world from destruction!' game like all the games before it.

After that as we know Square tried their best to be a Japanese company that made Western RPGS, returns diminishing with each subsequent effort. I'd welcome the shit out of an old-school JRPG 'you and a cast of charming rogues save the world!' grind fest (and I think a lot of people would too), I recently really enjoyed Dragon Quest XI but it's not even in the same galaxy in terms of story, characters and music.

(04-21-2019 08:50 PM)Nonpareil Wrote:  Oh X was the shit, too bad they kinda took a shit on it with X2 but it was a damn fine game.

I got the game for I believe my 17th birthday, a special time for me as well.

This 'no strong female characters, we demand you basement dwelling virgin programmers make some!' which is the height of hilarity because it isn't 'no strong female characters, I know! I'll write and program a game with some of them myself!' and fuckin every Final Fantasy game has good, compelling female characters who are 'strong' whatever that means - this game had three of them as mains for fucks sake!

The Sphere Grid was excellent but if you level high enough you can hack it so every party member is the same, but at least it was different.

The setting was fantastic, but I didn't like how linear the game was.

The music was great, but some of the voice acting was suspect.

At the time the graphics were like 'whoa!'

I did not like Blitzball, but the Monster Arena and international version Dark aeons were killer.

The story is basically Buddhist-inspired Romeo and Juliet, and as mentioned previously by me, despite the linearity, it was perfectly plotted. The ending also definitely had ninjas chopping onions in my room.

But the real sad thing? This was it for the series. Not that FFXII wasn't cool, but it felt more like a political intrigue thriller (like a game like Suikoden) than a 'save the world from destruction!' game like all the games before it.

After that as we know Square tried their best to be a Japanese company that made Western RPGS, returns diminishing with each subsequent effort. I'd welcome the shit out of an old-school JRPG 'you and a cast of charming rogues save the world!' grind fest (and I think a lot of people would too), I recently really enjoyed Dragon Quest XI but it's not even in the same galaxy in terms of story, characters and music.

I agree about XII, first I couldn't finish. What I liked about the FF series then in terms of setting and characters is if you didn't like one, another would come in 1 year or so and it would try a different flavour of sci fi/fantasy to your taste. they were really consistent with the gameplay systems never experimenting wildly, the music and just general confident "we got this, sit back relax" vibe was so consistent, and it didn't take 5 years minimum to develop like they do now. Those prerendered backgrounds and isometric angles aka Resident Evil could be made be stunning today if they wanted and it'd cheaper and faster. They've become the gaming equivalent of George R.R. Martin.

Each one was its own seperate complete universe unto itself, there were no sequels or prequels or cocktease DLC (though the very ending of FFX could mildy hint at it). All one and dones.

Pour all your passion into thing, then move on satisfied knowing you gave it your all.

This looks fun:

Tifa in FF7 was a hottie.

Mortal Combat 11 gets super-woke:





Obviously no naked bits of women and all ladies have to be facially challanged - essentially dudes' mugs on top of fully clothed female bodies.

I don't see anything unusual. Jax's ending seems wholesome. I mean, it's about his wife and daughter, important, no?

The character proportions in MK9 were absolutely horrible, especially in the female models. They seemed overgrown and tacky, X and 11 have much better proportions regarding the vast majority of characters, which makes the game better IMO.

Sonya does have a bit of a bitch face, probably more due to Rhonda Rousey being involved in her character than anything else. Cassie is a cutie pie, per example. None of the other females look particularly weird, if you discount the Goddess Kronica....

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(04-23-2019 12:58 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  I don't see anything unusual. Jax's ending seems wholesome. I mean, it's about his wife and daughter, important, no?

The character proportions in MK9 were absolutely horrible, especially in the female models. They seemed overgrown and tacky, X and 11 have much better proportions regarding the vast majority of characters, which makes the game better IMO.

Sonya does have a bit of a bitch face, probably more due to Rhonda Rousey being involved in her character than anything else. Cassie is a cutie pie, per example. None of the other females look particularly weird, if you discount the Goddess Kronica....

Well did I write something odd? I do think the character models in 9 were shit. They looked disproportionate and had huge clown-ish boobs and asses. At least now they are more realistic and proportional to actual human bodies. If one wants to see tits, either have a wahmen or the internet provides. No need to have perverted videogames as well.

Tits and Gore is literally all Mortal Kombat has ever been about. Change one and you have a game that is not Mortal Kombat.

MK is still gory. As for the tits, I mean... not as if graphics from arcade era and other powerful consoles have decent representations of tits...

Have you seen the game? It looks better than ever graphically and gameplay wise. Worrying about tits in this context seems kind of silly to me.

< This is not about too much or too little Tits. 99% of the player-base of fighting games are men and the reason they cover up the women - and only the women - is because of SJW feminism and this should be clear to them.

The women are clad in burkas while the men go shirtless.

As for the woke Wakanda stuff - there is nothing wrong with making Africa into a paradise by having some divine powers, but the shit is textbook leftist propaganda. They literally show Europeans bowing to Africans and that should have created paradise already. That is pure SJW historical drivel. No mention of the 1400 years of Muslim slave trade, no mention of the internal conquests, no mention that most Africans did not even meet Whitey until the 1830s, some countries barely even in the 1940s. No mention also of immense internal slavery - of Europeans like the Italians in their late conquests freeing tens of thousands of slaves in some countries - the king of one country had 30.000 personal slaves - all of them black on black slaves. There were no Europeans holding them back whatsoever.

Aside from that connotation the scene is fine and everyone can be happy about a man doing good for him, his family and his people, but this simply would not have happened.

And honestly - he literally used the term woke on top of it.





Why not avoid the shit and simply go with his divine powers into Africa's history, tweak it earlier and have it develop strong even before Europe, make it go fully industrial revolution in the 18th century as well? That way Europe would not have conquered jack shit as they would have met an equal well-developed force. At best trade would have been possible - similar to what they did with Japan. (And that would also have solved the far bigger nuisance of Africa - the Islamic slave trade of tens of millions of men being castrated and sent up north.)

But of course - they could not do that, because good propaganda needs to "teach those toxic males" and it also has to deprive them from some free toxic male gaze. It's not about tits here - the entire crap is deliberately uglified when it comes to women, covered up in a fucking fantasy combat game where the SJWs complained about armor. Bitch - if the women were fighting in realistic terms then they would all be dead - it would be a sausage fest.

(04-23-2019 03:48 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  MK is still gory. As for the tits, I mean... not as if graphics from arcade era and other powerful consoles have decent representations of tits...

Have you seen the game? It looks better than ever graphically and gameplay wise. Worrying about tits in this context seems kind of silly to me.

You are right about the tits, I apologize for my quick judgement. I checked out MK3 sprites and the girls weren't as titty as I remembered playing it as a child. Not sure about the 3D ones though.