Post: #26

One of the white knight/ male feminist kids I know posted the Jezebel response to this on his FB. I just responded saying that the original article was spot on. The short haired outrage has already started...

Post: #27

(09-24-2014 12:08 PM)iop890 Wrote:  I get out all my partying in other countries. Then switch exclusively to day and online game and only get drunk around friends.

I can truly say that my biggest regret in life was not traveling enough during college, and beating my head against the wall trying to crack the American social code. Even back then I knew foreign women were superior in every way and had a blast the few times I left the country, but was more focused on climbing the ladder in my frat and gaming sorority sluts than traveling and stacking paper.

I joined a house during my college years and while I will always look back fondly on my time there, I must say it was risky from a female standpoint. You had to know what you were doing when it came to girls, because you had suddenly hundreds of people knowing your business if you didnt. I took far more risks game wise and was much bolder out of the Greek system than inside of it.

Post: #28

Loved the part where he calls out universities for scapegoating greek life while similar events occur all over the place.

Post: #29

(09-24-2014 10:43 AM)nomadicdude Wrote:  Feminazis will destroy this guy even though he is being fair and reasonable. Their only viable solution is to cut off all men's cocks.

Ew he is an evil rapist castrate him! /sarcasm

Post: #30

That article was too honest. Nobody can handle the truth nowadays. I had a discussion with my chapter brothers - they said it was brilliant. We want to drink, party and bang sluts and kicking drunk whores out is the best way to ensure we don't get in deep shit.

I may do a post/ submit an article to RoK on why the attack on fraternities indicates the death of American values. Fraternities are essentially a breeding ground for future leaders and prove that synergy works wonders. The person I was as a pledge and the person I am now are completely different. Take away Greek Life and you take away many men's chance of becoming better versions of themselves.

But feminists do tend to attack men deemed attractive, because they hate masculinity with a strong vigor. Even if colleges do ban fraternities, they will continue to exist as secret organizations. No way in hell a lot of them are selling/ renting out houses to GDIs. And they will maintain chapters even when fraternities are banned, it'll just be without letters outside the house or on clothes.

Post: #31

(09-24-2014 08:27 PM)Kabal Wrote:  

(09-24-2014 08:22 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  Don't even get me started on the looseness and drug use of these girls also. If you marry a former sorority girl from a southern school then I will be waiting for you in the courts with no sympathy.

I am a former fraternity member and I generally disagree on the sorority girl stereotype of being incredibly slutty and whatnot.

Sorority girls may be slightly sluttier than GDI's on average... but the sluttiest chicks and the biggest groupies were always GDI's.

I'll say this....I know of several girls that were passed around from guy to guy during my time. Girls that were called president slayers, etc etc. Independents slut it up with everyone but many sorority girls would only fuck guys in fraternities and even certain fraternities for some of them.

Post: #32

(09-24-2014 08:27 PM)Kabal Wrote:  

(09-24-2014 08:22 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  Don't even get me started on the looseness and drug use of these girls also. If you marry a former sorority girl from a southern school then I will be waiting for you in the courts with no sympathy.

I am a former fraternity member and I generally disagree on the sorority girl stereotype of being incredibly slutty and whatnot.

Sorority girls may be slightly sluttier than GDI's on average... but the sluttiest chicks and the biggest groupies were always GDI's.

I'm inclined to agree. Sororities are hesitant to invite a serious power slut into their fold.

(09-24-2014 08:54 PM)xpatplayer Wrote:  Even if colleges do ban fraternities, they will continue to exist as secret organizations. No way in hell a lot of them are selling/ renting out houses to GDIs. And they will maintain chapters even when fraternities are banned, it'll just be without letters outside the house or on clothes.

My college had a lot of bullshit rules about drinking that drove nearly all the good parties off campus anyway. Campus security in general were bigger assholes than even cops.

Post: #33

It's incredible that the reaction to this article was so sudden and violent. This is one of the most polite and reasoned articles that I have ever read! It treads extremely carefully not to offend anyone and always insists on not judging anyone, but even so the author was sacked. It's ludicrous. Our society is truly fucked up...

Post: #34

This guy needs our support. I'm going to email Forbes asking why they had deleted an honest article and fired a writer for his honest thoughts, where is their integrity, are they journalists or click baiting whores

Post: #35

There is certainly some larger players behind all of this. I think this goes above the feminists we all know and hate, if such a well respected journalist gets fired for something so well written and so well thought out.

Post: #36

What's a GDI?

Post: #37

Will there ever be any mainstream pushback to this pseudo-Orwellian bullshit? Seriously, fucking Forbes? Who falls next, Wall Street Journal, National Review?

I'm beginning to think that conservatives, libertarians, and even moderates will not get their shit together and start elbowing for their rhetoric and viewpoints to be respected, and the door will simply close forever.

R.I.P. freedom of speech and journalist integrity, 1791 - 20??

Post: #38

(09-25-2014 04:29 AM)Ziltoid Wrote:  Will there ever be any mainstream pushback to this pseudo-Orwellian bullshit? Seriously, fucking Forbes? Who falls next, Wall Street Journal, National Review?

I'm beginning to think that conservatives, libertarians, and even moderates will not get their shit together and start elbowing for their rhetoric and viewpoints to be respected, and the door will simply close forever.

R.I.P. freedom of speech and journalist integrity, 1791 - 20??

The major media outlets are all owned by a small few select corporations.

So while some have a left spin or a right spin, they all answer to th same boss.

And for whatever reason, the same boss is pushing this anti-family/anti-male rhetoric and an alarming pace. I think there are bigger players at the table, and they are hidden from view and let the feminists do their dirty work. What is their purpose is the real question.

To destroy the family and stop the world from being over populated? Then just be honest about it and give men a sexual outlet in the form of prostitution so kids are not born but men are less violent and desperate.

Post: #39

(09-25-2014 04:25 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  What's a GDI?

"Goddamn Independent"

A college student that chooses to not join a Frat/Sorority.

Post: #40

(09-25-2014 04:43 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(09-25-2014 04:25 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  What's a GDI?

"Goddamn Independent"

A college student that chooses to not join a Frat/Sorority.

Ah right.

Thanks man.

Post: #41

(09-25-2014 04:29 AM)Ziltoid Wrote:  Will there ever be any mainstream pushback to this pseudo-Orwellian bullshit? Seriously, fucking Forbes? Who falls next, Wall Street Journal, National Review?

I'm beginning to think that conservatives, libertarians, and even moderates will not get their shit together and start elbowing for their rhetoric and viewpoints to be respected, and the door will simply close forever.

R.I.P. freedom of speech and journalist integrity, 1791 - 20??

Here is an irony we need to point out to Forbes.

This week is Banned Books Week. Last year, Forbes ran an article touting five banned books people should read.

This year, they've chosen to mark Banned Books Week by scrubbing an article from their Web site. Isn't that actually worse than banning a book, since it's erasing history?

Forbes' Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/forbes

A Forbes Facebook post where some feminist cheers their firing this writer in the comments:
https://www.facebook.com/forbes/posts/10152708803082509

Forbes' contact info:
http://www.forbes.com/fdc/contact.html
For general editorial feedback contact [email protected]

I don't have Twitter. But can someone who has Twitter please alert Heartiste and/or James Taranto of this?

https://twitter.com/heartiste
https://twitter.com/jamestaranto

Post: #42

(09-25-2014 04:42 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  And for whatever reason, the same boss is pushing this anti-family/anti-male rhetoric and an alarming pace. I think there are bigger players at the table, and they are hidden from view and let the feminists do their dirty work. What is their purpose is the real question.

To destroy the family and stop the world from being over populated? Then just be honest about it and give men a sexual outlet in the form of prostitution so kids are not born but men are less violent and desperate.

It's based much more in practical rather than ideological reasons. Women are mass consumers of cosmetics, luxury handbags, cars, homes, etc.. Men are consumers too but single men as a demographic tend to pale in comparison to single women when it comes to mass consumerism. Traditional print media is all about advertising and the online model is still about advertising for the most part. Single women are a significant growing consumer demographic for nonsense shit coming from huffington post, Times, etc.. Thus anything that alienates this important goose laying the golden eggs also risks alienating dozens of corporate sponsors who keep the lights on.

Maybe one or more of the forum posters who has worked in mainstream print media can comment more on this. This is the main cause I see.

The other is that english speaking countries have an excess of SWPL female liberal arts majors. All these people are incapable of dealing with the real world and are always "literally shaking" so they wash out of the productive labor force. So they end up in academia or they reinvent themselves and get hired into mainstream media as "journalists" where they get to spew diarrhea to the masses from their pieholes.

Post: #43

(09-25-2014 04:55 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(09-25-2014 04:42 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  And for whatever reason, the same boss is pushing this anti-family/anti-male rhetoric and an alarming pace. I think there are bigger players at the table, and they are hidden from view and let the feminists do their dirty work. What is their purpose is the real question.

To destroy the family and stop the world from being over populated? Then just be honest about it and give men a sexual outlet in the form of prostitution so kids are not born but men are less violent and desperate.

It's based much more in practical rather than ideological reasons. Women are mass consumers of cosmetics, luxury handbags, cars, homes, etc.. Men are consumers too but single men as a demographic tend to pale in comparison to single women when it comes to mass consumerism. Traditional print media is all about advertising and the online model is still about advertising for the most part. Single women are a significant growing consumer demographic for nonsense shit coming from huffington post, Times, etc.. Thus anything that alienates this important goose laying the golden eggs also risks alienating dozens of corporate sponsors who keep the lights on.

Maybe one or more of the forum posters who has worked in mainstream print media can comment more on this. This is the main cause I see.

The other is that english speaking countries have an excess of SWPL female liberal arts majors. All these people are incapable of dealing with the real world and are always "literally shaking" so they wash out of the productive labor force. So they end up in academia or they reinvent themselves and get hired into mainstream media as "journalists" where they get to spew diarrhea to the masses from their pieholes.

I agree with what you have posted here.

But this specific instance tells me there is something bigger at play. A investment publication like Forbes would have more male and more conservative/libertarian readers who would enjoy such a piece to counter the push by the left and feminists.

The article is well written and is still PC, while at the same tells the brutal truth. But most Forbes readers would enjoy the piece, as it hits a good chunk of their reader base. Yes the lefties would throw a shit fit about it. But that gives them more free publicity. Many of Forbes female readers would be older women who have kids and this would hit home for them as well, as their college age sons face a whole new set of problems.

Instead the article was erased ASAP and the journalist fired. The reaction from Forbes is remarkable, IMO, and speaks to something larger at play.

Post: #44

Forbes Fires Columnist For Writing That Drunk Girls Are The Real ‘Threat’ To Fraternities

Quote:Bill Frezza won’t be keeping his gig as a Forbes contributor after he wrote a controversial article entitled “Drunk Female Guests Are the Gravest Threat to Fraternities” that didn’t sit well with readers. The piece was quickly taken down — although a cached version is still available — and a spokesperson for Forbes confirmed to the New York Daily News that Frezza will no longer contribute to the site.

My belief is that part of the reason feminists petition to have articles like this taken down is so that people who have not yet read it can't go back and see for themselves how reasonable the article actually was. By removing the article entirely, it lets feminists remove any evidence that contradicts their narrative of the article being a rape-condoning, victim-blaming diatribe against women.

Clearly one thing feminists can't stand is people reading things that they (feminists) don't agree with and drawing their own conclusions. Obviously people can't be trusted to think for themselves, so feminists have set themselves up as high-priests whose job is to filter the information us "proles" are exposed to lest our feeble minds start succumbing to dangerous ideas like personal accountability and female agency.

Post: #45

Sounds like I had a different experience than others. The stories of hazing for pledges of sororities are bad enough.

Could be because I went to a large university in the South.

Post: #46

(09-25-2014 04:50 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  Here is an irony we need to point out to Forbes.

This week is Banned Books Week. Last year, Forbes ran an article touting five banned books people should read.

I'm betting an aspiring RoK writer could create a weekly column just based on articles feminists have banned. "Banned Articles that Feminists Don't Want You to Read!"

The juxtaposition of book-banning and feminists' proclivity to censor anything that doesn't fit their world view is an apt one and would help drive home the point that these people are totalitarians at heart who just can't stand any sort of dissent or opposing views.

Post: #47

The title did him in. Serious. Majority of feminists wouldn't of read it if it was titled differently. If he would of taken a page from buzzfeed he would of been fine. You always have to have a level of cover, he showed his hand to honestly from the start. A title such as:

"Important questions to ask about American fraternities going forward, they are in serious trouble and here is why..."

Would of been enough to skate around lazy editors and rabid bored feminists.

Post: #48

Blogger Dalrock had a funny take on it:
http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2014/09/25/now-he-knows/

Bill Frezza in his article more or less asked why female behavior is never criticized in the media.

After getting fired instantly he knows. It is simply not part of the current dictatorship of the mind. Women are to be painted as innocent snowflakes. When some feminists are arguing for all prisons for women to be closed down and even serial murderesses being put on house-arrest, then what can you expect really?

Post: #49

Feminist response on salon http://www.salon.com/2014/09/24/mit_frat...ternities/

Post: #50

This is fucking disgusting. This thought police bullshit needs to stop. ROK should reach out to this guy because that article he wrote was very sensible and honestly one of the least offensive things I could imagine reading and yet because it touched on female responsibility and the lack of it on campuses... it has to go. Fuck that.