Post: #1

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/m...-her-naked

Quote:“I don't lounge around in the buff like my boys do (and I spend more time saying, "Put on some pants!" than anything else) -- but I've never refrained from changing clothes in front of them, or leaving the door open when I shower, or nursing babies without a cover. Because I want them to see what a real female body looks like. Because if I don't -- and their first images of a naked woman are the impossibly perfect physiques in those magazines or those movies -- what kind of expectations will they have? And what woman could ever live up to them?”

SMH, I have to ask where is the father? If he's around, he needs to stop being a beta male and stop his baby mama's insanity from damaging these innocent children.

Post: #2

Quote:Because I want them to see what a real female body looks like.

I read that and immediately thought, "She's probably huge." I'm going to click the link now.

Result: inconclusive.

Post: #3

Change the thread quotations to "slut"

Post: #4

Reverse the genders, catch an arrest. #PussyPass

Post: #5

Father exposes himself to his daughters so they can see what a "real man" looks like.

Father goes to prison and is shamed nation wide in the media as a sex offender and child molester.

Post: #6

(09-14-2014 08:56 AM)alexdagr81 Wrote:  http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/m...-her-naked

Quote:“I don't lounge around in the buff like my boys do (and I spend more time saying, "Put on some pants!" than anything else) -- but I've never refrained from changing clothes in front of them, or leaving the door open when I shower, or nursing babies without a cover. Because I want them to see what a real female body looks like. Because if I don't -- and their first images of a naked woman are the impossibly perfect physiques in those magazines or those movies -- what kind of expectations will they have? And what woman could ever live up to them?”

SMH, I have to ask where is the father? If he's around, he needs to stop being a beta male and stop his baby mama's insanity from damaging these innocent children.

She talks about saggy breasts and flabby bits, so she is certainly way past wall and overweight.

All of this is based on the faulty idea, that men have their attraction indoctrinated via media & society and if they were surrounded non-stop by morbidly obese, then suddenly they would find morbidly obese attractive. Unfortunately that whole gender crap is a theory, since our attraction is hard-wired and such forced nakedness on part of his mother rather might scar him for life than achieve anything worthwhile. He will still prefer young tight beauties as all men do.

Post: #7

Everytime a walrus says that thats what a real woman looks like, I wonder if they believe lean fit women are made out of cardboard or something.

Post: #8

That's fucking gross.

Post: #9

(09-14-2014 09:31 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  Father exposes himself to his daughters so they can see what a "real man" looks like.

Father goes to prison and is shamed nation wide in the media as a sex offender and child molester.

This is immediately what I thought when I read that article

Post: #10

It's not creepy at all that she wants her sons to be sexually attracted to her...

Post: #11

What makes her a 'real' woman? Oh right, narcissism.

She must have serious mental issues, obviously the inability to let go, and the inability to accept the aging process.

The irony is that she is trying to teach her sons not to define women by their bodies, but clearly she defines herself by hers. Otherwise, she'd focus on her current role, which is to be a good mother to her sons by encouraging them to be men, not exposing herself in some horrible attempt to teach them some lesson based on her on perceived inadequacies that will certainly scar them for life. As has been noted, if a father suggested this, he'd be arrested and thrown in jail for mentioning it.

But at the end of the day, feminists need to simply stop trying to tell men what to find attractive.

I/we fully accept what women find attractive.

MEN will determine what men find attractive.

Post: #12

Post: #13

This is the new normal. Welcome to a "post-gender" society.

Post: #14

(09-14-2014 12:40 PM)CRR Wrote:  that will certainly scar them for life.

What convinces you that it scars them for life?

In some countries this is normal. Nordic saunas, Japanese hot springs, indigenous cultures. Can you point to any study that shows it's harmful to children?

Humans have biological safeguards that prevent sexual attraction towards people that grew up under the same roof (sisters, mother etc).

Post: #15

The nakedness itself probably won't be an issue, as Tigre suggested. However this woman is deranged, and the sons will be maligned by her rearing in other ways.

I googled her briefly and could find no reference to a father or husband. Did she have four boys by four men? Fertility treatment? Husband but he goes unmentioned? Whatever way you slice it, the silence is very suspect. Of course, mentioning a hubby would just draw attention and plaudits away from her.

Post: #16

and...you don't think that Japanese, or nords are screwed up?

Post: #17

(09-14-2014 02:33 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  The nakedness itself probably won't be an issue, as Tigre suggested. However this woman is deranged, and the sons will be maligned by her rearing in other ways.

I googled her briefly and could find no reference to a father or husband. Did she have four boys by four men? Fertility treatment? Husband but he goes unmentioned? Whatever way you slice it, the silence is very suspect. Of course, mentioning a hubby would just draw attention and plaudits away from her.

No, she is married and blogs endlessly about her "devastatingly handsome" husband and "four gorgeous boys". She's just another mommy blogger. She is obsessed with losing her looks as a result of age and childbirth (that's the subject of her blog, in fact) and her rhetoric about what "real women look like" is just standard issue protesting too much hamsterization. This is her blog:

http://www.fightingfrumpy.com/

Post: #18

"Aging, insecure mom tries to find solace in children's acceptance of her body"

Damn, that's what I should've named this thread.

Post: #19

I agree with some other people here. I don't think it is that big of a deal, as this is the norm in some cultures today, and even some throughout history. Then again, it would be awkward if my mom did this shit.

I think this is just a post-wall woman trying to deal with facts of life in her particular way.

Post: #20

(09-14-2014 02:24 PM)Tigre Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 12:40 PM)CRR Wrote:  that will certainly scar them for life.

What convinces you that it scars them for life?

In some countries this is normal. Nordic saunas, Japanese hot springs, indigenous cultures. Can you point to any study that shows it's harmful to children?

Humans have biological safeguards that prevent sexual attraction towards people that grew up under the same roof (sisters, mother etc).

It may normal in those societies, but I don't see her living in anything remotely similar.

But much more importantly, I think it's her whole attitude about how men view women sexually, hence why I think it would scar them. If she had a view that general human nudity was acceptable and natural, that would be different. But it's all about how boys should view the female body as beautiful no matter what. It's all about her and her own issues about her stretch marks and not fitting into jeans. As said above, it's not about accepting human nudity, it's about an insecure mom trying to find solace in children's acceptance of her body.

As said in the comments, intelligent people can distinguish between marketing and reality, and boundaries and modesty are good things. Some things are better left unseen for individuals to eventually learn on their own.

Post: #21

After a quick Google image search, I see she has a few recent selfies and headshots up. Any woman with kids who is still trying to advertise herself like an unburdened early 20-something is quite clearly a head case. The fact that she is a Mommy Blogger merely confirms it. I skimmed through one of her articles, and the first related article I'm suggested about her?

100 Things About Me, complete with this narcissistic picture as the header:



I feel bad for these kids. We all know how big of messes mommy bloggers are, especially formerly bangable ones grinding against the wall and still yearning for Alpha Dick.

Post: #22

I can't be arsed reading what an amateur female typist has to say. What sparked her of? Some kind of objectification of beautiful women by her sons which required that their healthy and normal male sexual desire be shamed and repressed?

If you think it's harmless, we have a young male generation who has been taught any kind of sexualisation of women is wrong, and a young female generation who has been taught that any kind of deference to a male partner is oppressive. Look how dysfunctional the current dating and marriage market is.

Post: #23

(09-14-2014 09:00 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:Because I want them to see what a real female body looks like.

I read that and immediately thought, "She's probably huge." I'm going to click the link now.

Result: inconclusive.

Based purely on experience, I'm going to continue to assume that "real" used in this context, means FAT.

Post: #24

(09-14-2014 09:00 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:Because I want them to see what a real female body looks like.

I read that and immediately thought, "She's probably huge." I'm going to click the link now.

Result: inconclusive.

This. Apparently she's a blogger. This is her facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rtempleton/photos_all.

She's got nothing but pics from the collarbone down.

Post: #25

(09-14-2014 04:13 PM)Billy Chubbs Wrote:  100 Things About Me, complete with this narcissistic picture as the header: