Post: #1

It's almost fashion week time in Milan and the city is getting filled with models from everywhere.

One thing I noticed is that nobody approach them, not even the best looking guys or the ones with status! Neither during the day nor in the night.

This morning there were so many bombshells everywhere that I didn't know where to look, the red line of the subway was just insane but people not only didn't approach, they didn't even look at them in the eyes! They just took a peek when they were turned.
I don't know how to describe it, it looked like people were afraid to even lock eyes and show interest. And italian guys generally are not shy when it comes to open girls.

So I'm wondering, if nobody approach them, who the hell bang all those chicks?
Would an average guy have some chance if he musters up the courage to open them?

This morning I wanted to try an approach so much but I didn't have the balls, I spotted lots of them (naive 16-19 yo stunning girls) walking alone with the map of the city in their hand but I was struck by a crippling approach anxiety and I couldn't do nothing.

This stupid approach anxiety is screwing me over. Someone has some tips?

Post: #2

They fuck guys through social circle and network, its not all about putting it on the line through cold approaching.

Post: #3

Yep, most of these girls get a guy from social circle, since those guys are models and supposedly other men of similar status.

Post: #4

Most girls at all levels of attractiveness primarily bang guys they meet via social circle or through things like work or school.

Also the most beautiful women may get approached less than 7's and 8's, but don't think for a second that they don't notice all the attention they get walking down the street.

Post: #5

(09-09-2014 04:25 AM)Deluge Wrote:  Also the most beautiful women may get approached less than 7's and 8's, but don't think for a second that they don't notice all the attention they get walking down the street.

How do they deal with negative attention (such as people laughing and mocking) when they are dressed as total sluts?

Post: #6

Well, the only people they know are some promoters and if you guys could see those promoters you would have many doubts in saying they bang those models. They are below par in looks.
I don't know if I can post their pictures....

Post: #7

Models are fine having boyfriends of sub par looks if they bring other types of high status. Money and fame trump looks if you are a man.

I saw a group of foreign models in Tokyo in a club once. One of the girls (5'9, standard model face) was with her boyfriend (she told me, and I believed it because she took offense when I looked at him and said 'really?') , a very plain and 'beta' looking mexican guy about 2 inches shorter than her. For all I know he was a total baller.

Post: #8

^OP its true. Really hot girls...that don't look like total sluts already...rarely get approached. I find that most of them have a boyfriend but I enjoy that validation of seeing them light up at being approached

Post: #9

I know a girl who was a finalist in the Miss Australia pageant. She's a girl next door 7, I was surprised she made it that far in the competition. Ever since she entered the competition she's been going to a lot of industry events and made a lot of new friends in the fashions circles, and the quality of guys she meets has gone up like crazy, her ego is through the roof and she's being completely overvalued. She was always kinda flirty with me when she was like 18, now if I tried I couldn't compete. Decent looking guy approaching on the street wouldn't have a chance. How could he with a girl who now hangs out with male models and good looking, dope styled slightly older men with bankrolls?

Similar happened with a girl I grew up with who got signed when she was 17 (this ones actually a stunner though). Her high school boyfriend was an average looking greasy haired stoner. Now she's surrounded by guys who are not only good looking but jacked and have the bankroll to spend on dope suits and partying in the most exclusive clubs, which are the only places she goes out at now.

Post: #10

I was working on my laptop in a Starbucks in Miami one sunny afternoon.

I sat at the window bar and looked up from my computer every now and then to catch a quick break.

I glanced up and amidst the crowd my eyes shot straight to a girl across the street.

She was waiting to cross the street.

She had long, tanned legs that traced up to a round ass and wide hips hugged by short, bootylicious jean shorts.

I forget what kind of top she was wearing but her face was picture perfect.

Angular European nose, bright green eyes, full lips.

I was floored.

I must've looked like one of those bugs bunny cartoon characters with the jaw hitting the floor with a cash register sound.

She finally crossed the street, walked past right in front of me and continued on her way.

I sat there for an eternal 15 seconds deliberating whether or not I should go after her.

I felt the anxiety welling up in my stomach and diffusing throughout my entire body.

My breathing became shallow.

But sometimes you just gotta say fuck it.

So I left my computer and my bag and ran out the door after her.

I chased her down the street, jogged up in front of her and stopped her.

I literally just spit exactly what was on my mind.

I can't remember it word for word but it was something like "hey, this is crazy. But I was sitting in Starbucks and I saw you come across the street. And I must have seen a million gorgeous girls pass by today but for some reason I HAD to come talk to you."

It might have been one of my best game moments: total authenticity.

Her face lit up in a gorgeous smile and she flushed crimson.

She was at a complete loss for words.

We shot the shit for a few minutes, I got the digits, and then ran back to my shit.

(If my computer is gone, I'd better bang this girl AND her friends.)

So it turns out this chick is a full time model.

In between shoots, she of course parties at Liv, Mansion, on rich dudes' yachts, and never at her own expense.

It's the standard deal in Miami Beach for very hot girls.

So after texting back and forth for about a week and failing to get her to meet me despite our living literally 8 blocks apart, I finally got her to meet me at the cafe right downstairs from my apartment.

I was still in my "ask women a million fucking questions about male/female dynamics" stage so I had to ask what made her want to meet up.

And she told me she was completely floored by my balls and how genuine I came across.

So I get her back up to my apartment and naughtiness ensues.

I feel great disappointment and shame to admit it, but I did not get the bang.

She was on the rag and for some reason I decided that I all of a sudden care either way.

I was never able to get her to meet up again.

I'm not even upset that I didn't get the bang per se.

But to slam dunk the approach and create that kind of intense chemistry in a flash is a one-in-a-thousand shot.

Then to isolate and call an audible at the line of scrimmage...

Well...the game is a cruel mistress and a sobering teacher.

And that my friends, is the story of the one of the ones who got away.

Post: #11

From what I've seen I would say that those girls act like sluts when they are inside the clubs.
Anyway, those are some of the "bosses" in Milan (they also hold parties in Paris, London and New York), all the models are managed by them (and some other guys) and judging by the pictures, posts and videos they put online they bang tons of them.

Edit: can't post pictures

Post: #12

(09-09-2014 04:25 AM)Deluge Wrote:  Most girls at all levels of attractiveness primarily bang guys they meet via social circle or through things like work or school.

Also the most beautiful women may get approached less than 7's and 8's, but don't think for a second that they don't notice all the attention they get walking down the street.

Ah, but I've been reading stuff in the soft-feminist blogosphere that "not approaching" is a form of rejection that girls find just as crushing as a guy does approaching and getting blown out!

Post: #13

This is a well known fact about the hotties unless you're a hot girl in London walking down Oxford Street, there's hundreds of daygamers ready to pounce :|

However when you approach a girl and she says that she never gets approached, don't fall into that vibe. Just brush it off as it being nothing special and she's just number 7436 today.

Post: #14

(09-09-2014 09:19 AM)bojangles Wrote:  This is a well known fact about the hotties

Is it?? I thought it was a myth.

Post: #15

(09-09-2014 09:19 AM)bojangles Wrote:  This is a well known fact about the hotties unless you're a hot girl in London walking down Oxford Street, there's hundreds of daygamers ready to pounce :|

However when you approach a girl and she says that she never gets approached, don't fall into that vibe. Just brush it off as it being nothing special and she's just number 7436 today.

When I hear a girl say "I never get approached" inside my head I hear one of two things:

* Garden-variety complaint-fest ("my life is sooo hard! Girls hate me and guys are intimidated by me!")
* "I never get approached by guys I'm really interested in."

Given women's tendency to always think they can do better, with a certain caliber of guy approaching them regularly they're going to start to think they deserve better.

Post: #16

Yeah hot girls saying they never get approached is just them throwing a pity party for themselves, and everyone is invited!

Her line of thinking:
1. I am single.
2. I am a catch.
3. Ergo, I should not be single.
4. I am only single because... Men are scared of my beauty... Men are scared to approach me.... There are no good men left.

What's really happening? She is emotionally broken and winces at the idea of giving up her freedom to commit to a man who is anything less than spectacular.

Post: #17

(09-09-2014 09:41 AM)Espresso Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 09:19 AM)bojangles Wrote:  This is a well known fact about the hotties

Is it?? I thought it was a myth.

Do you remember the days of approach anxiety whilst you grew into game? 8's definitely get approached much more than 9's

Post: #18

(09-09-2014 09:05 AM)BadgerHut Wrote:  Ah, but I've been reading stuff in the soft-feminist blogosphere that "not approaching" is a form of rejection that girls find just as crushing as a guy does approaching and getting blown out!

Got a link to this article?

Post: #19

I approached a group of 5 or 6 models Russian looking models in Shenzhen China. I failed miserably. They pretty much just all turned their backs on me haha. In my defense I was a little drunk and high and under dressed. I hadn't planed on going to the clubs that night till I got high... then I was like woooo hooo lets go out. It didn't really bother me at all, it may have helped my confidence. After that I was like well that kind of sucked but it certainly was not the end of the world..

Later that night I did open a table of 6 girls ALL from different countries. (That was one of my favorite parts about the clubs in Shenzhen, there was always girls from all over the world) I got the Colombian and Ukrainian girls phone numbers from that table. I had the Ukrainian girl write her # on the Colombian girls business card. Never called either girl. I was leaving for the Philippines a few days after that night.

I would say the main thing I learned from that night was that Colombian girls tickle my fancy...

Post: #20

Beautiful girls don't get approached as much, but...

-they are much more likely to have boyfriends
-they have higher standards

A bum can approach beautiful women all day and he won't get shit. If you bring the value and she's available at the moment, you have a good chance. Otherwise, they have networks where they can meet high-value men without caring much if random dudes on the street approach them.

Post: #21

(09-09-2014 10:29 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Beautiful girls don't get approached as much, but...

-they are much more likely to have boyfriends
-they have higher standards

A bum can approach beautiful women all day and he won't get shit. If you bring the value and she's available at the moment, you have a good chance. Otherwise, they have networks where they can meet high-value men without caring much if random dudes on the street approach them.

Beautiful models are not impossible to Game on the street. If they are young you may be able to get them. A lot is timing. When they barely start the career - then is the best time. The problem is many start their careers aged 15-17, which means that this is legal only in some countries around the world.

And never believe that those girls do not fuck occasionally men who are sub-par. I once met a guy who was the caretaker in a building that belonged to a large model agency. The house had apartments where only those usually young girls stayed while they did their shoots in Milan. He said that he had fucked dozens and dozens of the girls - he was short, had a belly, was over 40, but had some dominant Game. He said that he is just at the right place and at the right time - when the girl feels lonely, got rejected at 10 castings today - she will fuck him. Some father figure for them.

A friend of mine concentrated his Game on models especially at places he knew had castings going on. He sort of waited at Cafes for the girls to leave the fashion offices. He simply knew from experience, that quite a few girls get depressed since most of the time they are rejected especially as they apply for jobs at catwalks and shoots. So in effect it is similar to a woman getting several Nos. Guess how her reaction is when she is approached by a guy with direct Game and some acceptable looks? My friend did very well with those girls, but he is a 2-digit millionaire, has a bit above average looks and plenty of Game - despite him being only 5'10, he still managed to sleep with quite a few models.

So the most realistic approach for average guys with Game is to get them at the right time & in the right place.

Also what I have witnessed is that as soon as they have established a bigger social circle, they don't date down as much. When they have acquaintances with high level men, triple-digit-millionaire-trust-fund kids, businessmen, politicians, celebrities, billionaires who invite them to their Yacht parties, their grand houses and their grand parties - then it is almost impossible to get them. The other male models are not even the toughest competition there. I have been around a few guys - some were terrible Betas, who dated almost only Models, since the girls knew that behind him stand 50 million plus in assets and a lifestyle she will very likely not achieve through her modeling. Some of the girls come from very poor environments and most actually do not make much of a career. Most girls will have a better chance at catching a wealthy high value man in a LTR/marriage than making millions as a model.

The caretaker I mentioned did only so well, because he got so many fresh and beginning models in his house, who were in their teens and sometimes did not know anyone there.

And Roosh is right - beautiful girls are more often in relationships than 6-7s at their age. That is also backed up by statistical data.

Vincent's story is actually quite telling. He managed to spike her interest enough for one date, but did not seal the deal since she was on her period. Since such a girl with her high-level social circle already established has no lack of suitable options, you often don't get second chances.

By the way - those girls are not some special holy snowflakes. The very same wealthy friend who waited on them at cafes did once a different stunt. He hired a PR agency to do a fake casting for a commercial shoot at his company. Actually he went through with it and did even the shoot for a catalog of his company, but of course the casting was designed only to find out whether he could activate the famous casting couch and fuck some of the girls. Turns out that quite a few were willing to bang the owner for the prospect of the job. Of course he had Game and dated some later on. Not all bangs were managed on the casting despite being alone at a later stage of the "interview". Many girls fuck the photographers, the producers, various fashion industry bosses, the owners to a lesser degree since they are not there.

Also a lot of the girls become escorts on the side - especially when it becomes clear that they have not managed to break through big or managed to get a wealthy man to stick in a LTR or marriage. You see odd couplings of 16 year old girls with 60 year old men, who are far away from the optimized looks and Game of a Player.

Post: #22

Hey dude JUST FUCKING DO IT, life rewards the bold

Post: #23

(09-09-2014 03:58 AM)Gosh900 Wrote:  So I'm wondering, if nobody approach them, who the hell bang all those chicks?

Social circle and industry insiders.

Plus, old boyfriends from school and the occasional smooth playboy.

(09-09-2014 03:58 AM)Gosh900 Wrote:  Would an average guy have some chance if he musters up the courage to open them?

"An average guy" doesn't have much of a chance.

But, it never hurts to try.

(09-09-2014 03:58 AM)Gosh900 Wrote:  This stupid approach anxiety is screwing me over. Someone has some tips?

Don't "approach" them with the intention of banging them.

Just talk to them normally.

"are you lost?"
"what are you looking for?"
"do you need help with your map?"
"can I help you find something?"

Just help them with their directions.

Don't feel like you have to run game.

Just be a beta until you get more practice.

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Beautiful girls do intimidate most men.

This is just the "male hamster".

Beautiful girls are often friendlier than average girls.

Whenever I approach 9s and 10s they are generally very polite and sweet. (when they shoot me down)

Approaching them is a lot of fun.

Post: #24

(09-09-2014 04:49 AM)Gosh900 Wrote:  Well, the only people they know are some promoters and if you guys could see those promoters you would have many doubts in saying they bang those models. They are below par in looks.
I don't know if I can post their pictures....

That's why I hate NOT working anymore in Piazza della Scala...

Post: #25

(09-09-2014 12:14 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Also a lot of the girls become escorts on the side - especially when it becomes clear that they have not managed to break through big or managed to get a wealthy man to stick in a LTR or marriage. You see odd couplings of 16 year old girls with 60 year old men, who are far away from the optimized looks and Game of a Player.

Welcome to the third (probably second) biggest industry in Milan.

There are a few clubs (regular clubs, not "night-clubs" or "gentlemen clubs") were 75% of the good looking girl there (8-9-10s) are .. looking for a "special relationship" with you for a couple of hours.