Post: #176

Belarus girls are seriously lacking in the ass department, and they know it. Even female gym instructors, after 1000's of clenches, extensions, squats, cannot get their cheeks to even average Ukrainian/Russian standards.

Belarusian girls, fully aware of the problem, have stopped visiting the beaches in Odessa and are now heading to places like Portugal, where their poppas can still rivals those of the locals.

Post: #177

(06-24-2018 09:55 AM)Tintin Wrote:  Belarus girls are seriously lacking in the ass department, and they know it. Even female gym instructors, after 1000's of clenches, extensions, squats, cannot get their cheeks to even average Ukrainian/Russian standards.

Belarusian girls, fully aware of the problem, have stopped visiting the beaches in Odessa and are now heading to places like Portugal, where their poppas can still rivals those of the locals.

More in the face department than ass, but both are lacking compared to Russian women. I will say in the titty department they are like Polish women...with the 2 I had so far, they did not disappoint in the squeezing titties department.

Post: #178

Sadly Minsk is a lot more played out than I had anticipated.

The average quality is high, maybe not as much high end as Kiev, but the sponsorship culture here is totally pervasive, combined with a higher level of sexual conservatism it can be a bad spot depending on what you're looking for.

If you're looking for a soft 6, or a girl in the 5 range Minsk is alright, but higher than that and girls here have many sponsorship options. They even think it's strange you came to Belarus. I've never seen a country where women want to escape so badly. 50 percent of 7s have been to Italy. About 80 percent or more of the 8+ women have been to Dubai.

If you want to get with the hotter women you have to do some very nice dates and talk about your sponsorship options with her. That's just the way it is. Now of course, for the lower end this isn't necessary.

Post: #179

How to bang in Minsk:
Sponsorship culture is indeed huge, especially where most of us game in Mamba-Tinder-Badoo, in nightclubs and the Zybickya nightlife area(the least of those) - even worse, many girls will use you for the fancy restaurants, expensive drinks etc. without any intention in you. However, there are ways to bang:
*High provider game - a friend played that easily but has to splurge - Get plenty of high quality leads before (8-9), offer high end restaurant date location like Cafe de Paris, The view or the lounge in DoubleTree. Then date there with a girl, once she drinks and eats she understand her duty and you bang her, if she is a user person and wont bang, send her away and invite the next one, eventually you will bang, could be the 1st, 2nd or max 3rd - this method works 100% but you will have to spend quite a lot of money. Same in clubs (Black house, Rich cat are strong)- get a good table, order some fancy bottles and the flies will come easily, cost more than restaurants.
*Go for the 6s, just date the 30+ women which are not the heavy sponsor type (even those will ask you for small money for the phone/manicure after sex) - be assertive, don't waste time in restaurants, just coffee/drink and escalate fast, show physical interest. Russian surely helps. If not you can end up with multiple dates with nothing happening.
*Clubs/bars - not easy and not common but managed to do it, aim to the younger ages: 18-22, again not so heavy sponsor type, one/two drinks maximum and escalate, if a girl ask for a 2nd drink offer to come to your place.

Best leads are from the street/bars in Zybickya, plenty of nice girls around waiting to be approached. After some chats and interest offer a drink in your place before going out, again assertiveness is a key, many girls not sure what they want and you need to decide for them, if you let them chose and lead you then you lowering your chances.
If you respect a girl, be a gentleman, generous and accept her requests, she see it as a sign of weakness and will step all over you. You must be strong with them, you want to eat? ok but we order take away to the apartment. She doesn't accept first date in the apartment, ok - but you chose the place (none food place, average cost) near your house. No? next... One thing for sure there are plenty of attractive women around, don't waste your time on hard ones.

There are good girls here but they are hard to find especially 8+ with 'normal' attitude are very rare. They been spoiled by rich Russians/Arabs/Turks for years and its deep in the culture, much more than in Kiev to my surprise. My local friend said if I wish a really good girl I should aim to lower ages as later they been spoiled -this is correct also for local guys, they also must spend.

And another side note and success that I had, eventually even the high end user/sponsor type is a person and if you managed to make her lough, interest her or attract her in any other way she might as well bang you even without spending on her much. Surely this involves some efforts and luck (no big spender around)

Post: #180

Now this is some actionable advice. Can confirm that it is almost 1:1 the same case for Moscow (and for sure any other Russian-speaking city,) just more expensive.

Post: #181

Citizens of 74 countries can now travel visa free to Belarus for up to 30 days.

http://uae.mfa.gov.by/en/consular_issues/visafree5days/

Post: #182

(08-22-2018 04:15 PM)renotime Wrote:  Citizens of 74 countries can now travel visa free to Belarus for up to 30 days.

http://uae.mfa.gov.by/en/consular_issues/visafree5days/

Includes the US? Nice

Post: #183

Brosemite, wondering whether they will be able to overrun Minsk like they did with Kiev? The thirtiness of those guys is without any limit.
Just for the people not bothering so far with VISA and limitations...Minsk has been already changing a lot over the last few years.

Post: #184

Wait what! That list includes Lebanon. When do the 30 days reset btw?

Post: #185

Sounds good... but where to get the medical insurance up to 10000 Euro as they say while traveling/living abroad?

Post: #186

(06-24-2018 02:20 PM)Tenerife Wrote:  Sadly Minsk is a lot more played out than I had anticipated.

The average quality is high, maybe not as much high end as Kiev, but the sponsorship culture here is totally pervasive, combined with a higher level of sexual conservatism it can be a bad spot depending on what you're looking for.

If you're looking for a soft 6, or a girl in the 5 range Minsk is alright, but higher than that and girls here have many sponsorship options. They even think it's strange you came to Belarus. I've never seen a country where women want to escape so badly. 50 percent of 7s have been to Italy. About 80 percent or more of the 8+ women have been to Dubai.

If you want to get with the hotter women you have to do some very nice dates and talk about your sponsorship options with her. That's just the way it is. Now of course, for the lower end this isn't necessary.

So in a nutshell Instagram has ruined Eastern Europe. Practically any decent Eastern European women has gotten a free vacation paid for her by some Arab or Turk. She may or may not had been shat on Dubai Porta Potty style.

Post: #187

(08-23-2018 03:39 AM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  Brosemite, wondering whether they will be able to overrun Minsk like they did with Kiev? The thirtiness of those guys is without any limit.
Just for the people not bothering so far with VISA and limitations...Minsk has been already changing a lot over the last few years.

The reality is the business sector will kowtow to Turkish tourists.

I live in Batumi. Once upon a time they tried the whole: "we don't like Turks and we don't want them to come here" so they revoked visas for Turkish people. Apparently most businesses ended up losing 40% of their revenue so they had to reverse the decision.


There's no way any country in Eastern Europe is going to ban Turks because the Middle-Upper Class / Upper class owners of restaurants and hotels make crazy money off their sex, drug and gambling vacations.

I don't understand how Turkish people have the money to go on these trips. Unless they're hiding a lot of money under the table Turkey's GDP per capita is too low to explain the huge numbers of young Turkish men abroad (who are probably working for Turkey's equivalent of a minimum wage).

Post: #188

(08-23-2018 03:30 PM)bigbadpua Wrote:  Sounds good... but where to get the medical insurance up to 10000 Euro as they say while traveling/living abroad?

https://insurance.tickets.ua/en

This is cheap and reliable option, make sure the insurance includes Belarus when you book it.

Post: #189

(08-23-2018 03:57 PM)BaatumMania Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 03:39 AM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  Brosemite, wondering whether they will be able to overrun Minsk like they did with Kiev? The thirtiness of those guys is without any limit.
Just for the people not bothering so far with VISA and limitations...Minsk has been already changing a lot over the last few years.

The reality is the business sector will kowtow to Turkish tourists.

I live in Batumi. Once upon a time they tried the whole: "we don't like Turks and we don't want them to come here" so they revoked visas for Turkish people. Apparently most businesses ended up losing 40% of their revenue so they had to reverse the decision.


There's no way any country in Eastern Europe is going to ban Turks because the Middle-Upper Class / Upper class owners of restaurants and hotels make crazy money off their sex, drug and gambling vacations.

I don't understand how Turkish people have the money to go on these trips. Unless they're hiding a lot of money under the table Turkey's GDP per capita is too low to explain the huge numbers of young Turkish men abroad (who are probably working for Turkey's equivalent of a minimum wage).

1. Thanks to D. Trump now they have much less money to travel.
2. Thirstiness is the key, they don't get enough sex in their country, some even not at all so even low end Turkish guys from villages will use their summer vacation to spend 1 month in Lviv for example. Even if its big expense to them- its the priority over other things. (And this is on top of mid+high level guys from Istanbul/Ankara etc.)

Post: #190

With the 5 day free visa you could get insurance at the airport, I presume its still the same?

Turkish guys will do anything for pussy as we well know. In Turkey they realise that chasing Turkish pussy is a waste of time, so they instead save the money for Ukraine when they will get better results.

They often travel together and will cook for themselves at home instead of going to restaurants.

Post: #191

(08-24-2018 05:04 AM)Henny Wrote:  With the 5 day free visa you could get insurance at the airport, I presume its still the same?

Turkish guys will do anything for pussy as we well know. In Turkey they realise that chasing Turkish pussy is a waste of time, so they instead save the money for Ukraine when they will get better results.

They often travel together and will cook for themselves at home instead of going to restaurants.

There's an AirBnb studio next to me. I often hear 3 Turkish / Arab men sharing it (the groups come and go). Never really hear a woman's voice or orgasm coming from there. I guess if they are having sex here then it's at an incall location like one of the Thai Massage Parlors in my city.

Post: #192

Can Trump nuke Turkey already?

Post: #193

Has anyone been to Belarus and had multiple bangs?

Post: #194

(08-24-2018 08:38 AM)Henny Wrote:  Has anyone been to Belarus and had multiple bangs?

I think Cambodian Creamsicle did well over there.

Post: #195

If you offer an all expenses paid round trip two week vacation to a mediterranean city then you'll definitely bang more than a few girls in Minsk.

Post: #196

We should not be overly cynical, i'm sure there are plenty of decent girls there who will fuck without a confirmed holiday reservation. Hanging around the main clubs and bars probably not the best way to find them.

Post: #197

(08-24-2018 11:30 AM)Not-a-libtard Wrote:  We should not be overly cynical, i'm sure there are plenty of decent girls there who will fuck without a confirmed holiday reservation. Hanging around the main clubs and bars probably not the best way to find them.

There's an idea, promise them a vacation and them give them a photoshopped itineary, bang em and disappear

Post: #198

Unless you've been there and tried it, then I'm not sure what experience you're talking from.

Minsk is the most sponsored place I've ever been to. Sure, there are some decent girls that aren't on the sponsor carousel, but I didn't find them, and talked to hundreds of girls during the day.

The biggest key to finding the non-sponsored hot girls is to go young. 18 year olds will have little experience with sponsorships. Older than that and the girl has likely been flown to Italy already. No joke.

I was day gaming with another forum member and he was like "yeah a lot of girls have been to Italy".

I cut off our conversation and approached a sexy girl...

She told me she had just gotten back from Italy a few days ago.

Post: #199

Going to Italy doesn't necessarily mean that the girls have a sponsor. It is a great country and simply girls dream about fancy architecture and historical culture, sunny beaches, tasty food. I met some BL girls who were hosted in Italy through Couchsurfing or stayed in hostel. I also did not hear any single person speaking in Italian during my visits in Minsk: they mainly congregate in Poland or Ukraine.
Italian, French and Swiss guys do better than Americans on average in FSU, that's my impression, maybe for historical reasons. In other countries Americans have an advantage but it's not the case in Belarus.
You gotta try harder day game in BL preferably outside the city centre. Minsk is hard I agree, you need solid game...but let's not say "it's impossible to find cute not sponsored girls".

Post: #200

Yes we can't assume every girl with a couple of stamps in her passport has been sponsored. When I was there I noticed how affluent Minsk was, people were wearing nice clothes, not too many shitheap cars. The salaries are higher than somewhere like Ukraine, and many people will have their own family soviet apartments. So I'm fairly sure many of them can afford at least one holiday a year to Europe. Much the same as the Ukrainians they are pretty frugal on holiday, many people in one apartment, cooking at home. They are also happy to travel long distances by coach.

Also many of them will have local boyfriends, or Russian boyfriends to provide for them.

English penetration is low there, a BY girl is not going to go to Europe to meet a guy she cannot converse with.

Speaking of English penetration, knowing the language there would be a huge bonus