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Another video relating to this.



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I just noticed this person has a wikipedia entry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoe_Quinn

Of course, no mention of the current scandal.

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(08-26-2014 08:42 PM)Tengen Wrote:  I just noticed this person has a wikipedia entry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoe_Quinn

Of course, no mention of the current scandal.


the talk section reveals a lot of WP inner workings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zoe_Quinn
theres a clash between editors, wikipedia at the moment is studying how to paint this event as thewitch hunting of poor zoe quinn

From the Talk page

Quote:The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. Though WP:V no longer states it like that (unfortunately), it's still pretty close to that idea. No matter how 'true' something may be, it cannot automatically be included in Wikipedia just because it's true. Rather, Wikipedia collects information from reliable sources and reflects what is stated in those sources - regardless of whether or not Wikipedians find it true or not. (Instead, the consensus among sources is described as the main view, with other notable views represented as such.) In other words, if all sources mentioning the moon landing were to conspire to say there is indisputable proof the moon landing was faked from tomorrow on, then henceforth the Wikipedia article on it will state the moon landing is faked; we go by what the reliable sources say unless we have reliable sources saying otherwise. In a situation like this scandal, if all notable gaming sites refuse to even mention it, we have no reliable sources to work with and can't include it in the article. To point out what the problems are with your current sources:
thezoepost is a blog written by an ex-boyfriend with an agenda (revenge for being treated like shit). Blogs (except under some special circumstances, when written by notable people specifically on a notable subject) are not considered reliable by Wikipedia's standards. The blog's complete lack of neutrality further makes it unreliable.
Though it looks professional enough, Gamer Headlines is not a notable site. It's been around for less than a year and as far as I can tell its existence hasn't even been mentioned by notable sites or people.
Zoe's own blog is an acceptable source for her response on the incident. However, it's not an acceptable indicator of the notability of the incident as it's not a third-party source. Until other reliable sources make it notable enough for inclusion, Zoe's reply is unusable.

articles that do not conform with the hivemind are flat out dismissed while statements made by Escapist are valid, the same videogaming website in which the chief editorp ublicy stated :

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The Escapist ran a story about Quinn's harassment in late 2013 with little evidence other than her word. We will always default towards helping out people who are the subject of harassment on the internet. I do not support behavior of that kind and will strive to protect those who are feeling the effects of it
. We will signal-boost those incidents because I think it's important to create change, and will only choose not to post such stories if I decide they will do more harm to the situation.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/r...1#21285187

her real name is Chelsea Van Valkenburg, she changed her name between 2012-2013, who knows her shenanigans before this timeline
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/orig...11/e6d.jpg

Even someone controverse as Roosh uses his real name, this bitch sure have some skeletons in the closet

the loser ex is on reddit answering questions
http://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/2...ns_ex_ama/

Encyclopedia Dramatica has the whole story, the best coverage of the story at this moment

https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Zoe_Quinn ( BEWARE ! pics of the fugly snatch)


whats really shocking to me is that this bitch receives only 6k+ dollars per month from donations ( info from her ex on reddit)

Patreon is the crowdfunding site that aurini is using to make his movie, if you google PATREON, zoe quinn donation page is embedded right under the FAQ and ABOUT LINK

only in patreon she has 453 donnors and receives $2,357.50
per month, all of them white knights to the rescue after the wizzardchan harassment fiasco, HOLY SHIT there really is a sarkeesian effect

Ive seen some videos of aurini about psychology and personality types, props to him and Owen for exposing the SJW conman

Theres a conspiratorial video about zoe quinn being related to the Roosevelt family, but thats a stretch of imagination, she acted like a classic broke bitch, or she is just a priviledged white woman coming straight from a family of millionaires, she just wanna be a part of "the scene" and pretend to make games with plaid wearing hipsters



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Interesting -- but in the end, naive -- take on the issue by a female game developer.

Quote:Despite (or rather because of) all of the pontificating by left-leaning social justice types in the game industry about oppression, the easiest way for talentless hacks to break into the indie gaming industry is to associate with the sort of hipster liberal types that are getting all the publicity for their oppression. And worse yet, they get in over people with actual skills. I had a friend in college who was an amazing 3d modeler trying to break into the industry. She [Wycked: I doubt her female friend was this "amazing" modeler"] was turned down repeatedly and had to settle at a shitty mobile game company making cow clickers that no one cared about. Meanwhile Zoe Quinn is able to get hired by Loveshack solely because of who she knows (and sleeps with). But this isn’t about Zoe, her scandal is just a microcosm of the widespread corruption and nepotism in this industry. Another example is when the IGF allowed Fez to re-enter the competition (even though it had been there before) just because of Phil Fish’s connections to the festival organizers. These are not isolated incidents, and one need only look at the unprofessional interactions between journalists and devs on social media, at cons, and elsewhere to see that any semblance of professional barriers between these people don’t exist. It’s already apparent from their interactions that they form a very strong clique.

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Quote:Let’s be completely honest: most women don’t play Quake III. Most of those few women like me who actually like first person shooters, grand strategy, space sims, and all those other genres that make up “core” gaming don’t care if they can play as a female protagonist, or if the girls are wearing skimpy outfits, or if you have to rescue the princess. They like the exact same things as men who like those games, and they just want good games, nothing more nothing less. And most of them feel that all this rambling on about representation is distracting from the real issue: big developers and publishers are making shitty games for mass appeal instead of the kind of awesome games we played growing up. When you distract from that to rant about what is literally imaginary misogyny you’re hurting women like me who just want good games. There’s a reason the only new game I’ve thoroughly enjoyed this year was the new Strider, even though I’d rate it an 8 out of 10 at best: it’s a simple premise with solid execution. No attempts to speak about how the social justice topic du jour, just solid gameplay and enough of a story to string it together. Not that I’m opposed to games telling a story, but for the vast majority of genres stories aren’t all that important, and speaking out on social issues is irrelevant to what I want: gameplay. Most other women, if they play games at all, play Candy Crush and Farmville and Solitaire and whatever else is popular on phones. By conflating us with them you’re hurting us and keeping the games we like from getting made.

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Chelsea Van Valkerburg aka " Zoe Quinn " is another feminazi whale:

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I have to hand it to her:

Wikipedia Wrote:Quinn is also interested in body modification, and has implanted a chip in the back of her hand that can be programmed to perform various functions. Her first use of the chip was to load it with a download code for the game Deus Ex.

Possibly the stupidest use of cyborg technology that I have ever seen.

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She needs to stop implanting Doritos in her fat craw.
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Sadly, I feel like all of this will be swept under the rug. Too much focus and negativity have been placed on her sleeping with five men while in a relationship with her boyfriend. While that is terrible, and she should be ashamed for being a whore, the important issues are being drowned out by the vocal slut-shaming.

It's kind of like the fake/genuine harassment that Anita Sarkeesian is getting for her latest video. She's a fraud, but instead of pointing out those flaws, and providing examples of why she is only out for herself, people are calling her a "whore," a "bitch," and a "cunt" on Twitter, etc.

All we're doing is legitimizing their case for misogyny, and giving SJWs for ammunition.
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Her cheating with the married boss was recent right? So her boss decided to commit adultery with a fat mistress? That's pretty pathetic.
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Holy fuck she's huge, interesting read this thread but really concerning too, if it's happening in the games industry it can happen anywhere

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(08-27-2014 08:22 AM)corners Wrote:  Chelsea Van Valkerburg aka " Zoe Quinn " is another feminazi whale:

[Image: 4466997686e8234d2ff0d4bdffbaa79d.jpg]

Damn this bitch done gained a whole lot of weight!! It seems like the more power she got, the less she needed to be a hoe Smile Back in her prime, even though she was never super hot per say, was still an ok bitch. The madness of chicks like her with purple hair and really nerdy clothes is that it hides their beauty. I fully understand how she rose up the ranks now!!
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This is just really depressing, who would do some uggos bidding just cause?

These guys are supposedly some of the top guys in videogame journalism and they can't do better than a 2?

These guys would be better off telling girls they are unemployed, I know unemployed guys who live with their parents and get WAY better girls than that.

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The ex that she cheated on did an AMA on reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/2...ns_ex_ama/
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I haven't followed this shit storm much, but noticed this from the AMA:

Quote:I met Zoe about 2 1/2 years ago. I had a friend who wanted to date her, and he wanted my opinion of her. After spending some time getting to know her, she seemed really cool. She had big ideas and was extremely passionate. She even mirrored my opinions. You need to know that she's a chameleon. She's charming and can adapt to any environment. It's easy to trust her. This is all relevant to make you understand why people stand up for her. She makes everything she says seem genuine.

After I told my friend that she was cool and dateable and they started dating, things changed. Suddenly, she was using details from my life story, things that explain why I am who I am, in stories she was telling me. It was then I started to doubt the validity of other things she said (none of which I will share because that is not my place). As I started piecing together stories she told me over the time I knew her, things started not adding up. There were inconsistencies, and I started casually asking her about things when they didn't make sense with the narrative she had previously given.

This is classic BPD. When I was young and naive pre-redpill, I had a Cluster-B ex who was exactly the same. She was at least a cute little redhead though and not a purple-haired hambeast, thank god. From my reading up on BPD afterwards, this is all straight from their playbook.

Also, I logged in to Farcebook the other day and saw some faggot nerds and bitches on my Newsfeed declaring support for dear Zoe and that anyone who's against her should fuck off their Farcebook friend list because they're obviously against women in the gaming industry.

I promptly deleted all of them just in case they flip one day and accuse me of virtual rayyyyppppe.

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(08-29-2014 01:58 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  Also, I logged in to Farcebook the other day and saw some faggot nerds and bitches on my Newsfeed declaring support for dear Zoe and that anyone who's against her should fuck off their Farcebook friend list because they're obviously against women in the gaming industry.

I promptly deleted all of them just in case they flip one day and accuse me of virtual rayyyyppppe.

Whenever someone has called my bluff this way, I unfriend them, rather than listen to their bollocks.

This is how I discovered that most people who pompously spout this kind of crap on FB apparently care deeply about curating their Friends List to watch it obsessively enough to send me a passive-aggressive message within the next 12 hours or so about why I unfriended them, and they're genuinely and meaningfully angry at you for daring to do so.

Being liked by everyone is that important to them.

I never justify my reasons. The one time I explained to a chick she was always subtly initiating drama to get people fighting in her comments threads so she could then get to mediate the dispute and been seen as the peacemaker, she didn't get it.

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Quote:I met Zoe about 2 1/2 years ago. I had a friend who wanted to date her, and he wanted my opinion of her. After spending some time getting to know her, she seemed really cool. She had big ideas and was extremely passionate. She even mirrored my opinions. You need to know that she's a chameleon. She's charming and can adapt to any environment. It's easy to trust her. This is all relevant to make you understand why people stand up for her. She makes everything she says seem genuine.

After I told my friend that she was cool and dateable and they started dating, things changed. Suddenly, she was using details from my life story, things that explain why I am who I am, in stories she was telling me. It was then I started to doubt the validity of other things she said (none of which I will share because that is not my place). As I started piecing together stories she told me over the time I knew her, things started not adding up. There were inconsistencies, and I started casually asking her about things when they didn't make sense with the narrative she had previously given.

Is it just me, or does anyone else have a difficult time understanding that guys like this actually exist? I read that excerpt and my brain simply cannot believe it was written by a man. Everything in it screams female behavior, from the beginning of "checking out" a girl to "see if she was a dateable" for his friend, to the bitchy whining about how he got played by a master manipulator, to the overall tone of victimhood. If you read the guy's blog about this whole affair it's even worse.

I guess I'm just wondering: is this kind of behavior common among young men today? I want to believe this guy is just a humongous chode outlier. If this is becoming what passes for normal, I weep for the future.

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(08-28-2014 08:51 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  This is just really depressing, who would do some uggos bidding just cause?

These guys are supposedly some of the top guys in videogame journalism and they can't do better than a 2?

Being a top guy in videogame journalism is like having the best personality out of all the 2 and 3's in the world. Nobody gives a shit and the ones that do nobody wants to fuck.
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(08-29-2014 04:15 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  Being liked by everyone is that important to them.

I'm still hearing about how evil I am for deleting some chicks off Facebook years later at social events. Makes great conversation with new people sometimes.

(08-29-2014 04:56 PM)scorpion Wrote:  Is it just me, or does anyone else have a difficult time understanding that guys like this actually exist? I read that excerpt and my brain simply cannot believe it was written by a man. Everything in it screams female behavior, from the beginning of "checking out" a girl to "see if she was a dateable" for his friend, to the bitchy whining about how he got played by a master manipulator, to the overall tone of victimhood. If you read the guy's blog about this whole affair it's even worse.

I guess I'm just wondering: is this kind of behavior common among young men today? I want to believe this guy is just a humongous chode outlier. If this is becoming what passes for normal, I weep for the future.

That was a guy? I thought that was a chick!

Now that I've taken a moment to think about the guys I know outside of strength training circles, I'm afraid to say you can start weeping now.

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(08-29-2014 04:56 PM)scorpion Wrote:  Is it just me, or does anyone else have a difficult time understanding that guys like this actually exist? I read that excerpt and my brain simply cannot believe it was written by a man. Everything in it screams female behavior, from the beginning of "checking out" a girl to "see if she was a dateable" for his friend, to the bitchy whining about how he got played by a master manipulator, to the overall tone of victimhood. If you read the guy's blog about this whole affair it's even worse.

I guess I'm just wondering: is this kind of behavior common among young men today? I want to believe this guy is just a humongous chode outlier. If this is becoming what passes for normal, I weep for the future.

These guys are just wieners. Look at all the pictures on this thread, it's the kind of personality that goes along with being a 90 lb weakling while still having a pot belly somehow.
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(08-29-2014 04:56 PM)scorpion Wrote:  I guess I'm just wondering: is this kind of behavior common among young men today? I want to believe this guy is just a humongous chode outlier. If this is becoming what passes for normal, I weep for the future.

I read it on Facebook and thought it was a chick too.

The consistent recipe I repeatedly see producing these girls who act and think like women:

- divorced parents;

- has gone to University in a non-finance, agriculture or business degree - particularly arts, journalism, IT;

- considers themselves a 'nice guy';

- are into video games / movie culture without letting go of childish concerns (Star Wars, Transformers, Batman, etc);

- work in a white collar office culture dominated by women.

Every blue collar guy I know has no trouble dating and has a wife / girlfriend / kids. Sometimes they're on their second wife by their 30's, and they're never single for long.

The feminised white collar guys have ex-wives; rarely has girlfriends - if they do, she's slovenly; and if they do get married, it's to an obvious reformed 'ho who has hit 30.

The white collar chicks start fantasising about blue collar men post-late-30's divorce. This is when you suddenly see cougars trying to down beneath their class.
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