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RE: Zoe Quinn: Feminism, Game Journalims, and Corruption
(08-20-2014 12:53 AM)Billy Chubbs Wrote: Looks like I drew the short straw for writing this on ROK. If anyone else has any interesting/important links about Zoey-kins, I'd love to see 'em.
Shout out to Chubbs making an in depth analysis of whorish land whale !
That was an awesome article, can't wait for the white knights in the comment section.
What's scary is there is only TWO major articles that can be found with google search, both are defending her as well.
Censorship is a scary thing.
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RE: Zoe Quinn: Feminism, Game Journalims, and Corruption
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RE: Zoe Quinn: Feminism, Game Journalims, and Corruption
(08-21-2014 05:32 PM)NilNisiOptimum Wrote: Of course there are tech sites slobbering over this "game"
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/08/wh...l-illness/
In fairness, I actually heard of and checked out Depression Quest months back, before I even knew who this broad was or anything about her. As a quaint little thought experiment in trying to convey to what depression can be like, to non-depressed people, it's kind of neat. It's not going to change the world, but it may inform some people, and mental illness (especially among men) could certainly use more attention in this society.
But it is correct that to call it a "game" and have it included on steam amidst leagues of fantastic indie titles that people have poured their hearts and souls into is fucking ludicrous.
But, it was made by a "woman game designer", so, that's all anyone needed to know apparently. Sigh.
Wonder what Gabe Newell thinks of this.
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RE: Zoe Quinn: Feminism, Game Journalims, and Corruption
(08-21-2014 05:54 PM)Ziltoid Wrote: (08-21-2014 05:32 PM)NilNisiOptimum Wrote: Of course there are tech sites slobbering over this "game"
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/08/wh...l-illness/
In fairness, I actually heard of and checked out Depression Quest months back, before I even knew who this broad was or anything about her. As a quaint little thought experiment in trying to convey to what depression can be like, to non-depressed people, it's kind of neat. It's not going to change the world, but it may inform some people, and mental illness (especially among men) could certainly use more attention in this society.
Is this what all the fuss is over, or is it a parody?
Depression Quest
It's a Choose-Your-Own-Adventure story with half of the options crossed out, with an overall design aesthetic that resembles a Geocities page circa-1996, complete with MySpace style low-resolution 'sparkly' text boxes, and a harsh and tinny General Midi-quality soundtrack that plays constantly, unrelated to your actions.
There's plenty of this CYOA shit on Fanfiction.com. Calling herself a 'Game Designer' is ridiculous. I can't see why this would have gotten any press at all, because there's plenty of this CYOA rubbish in places like Fanfiction.com, except it would be better written, because the writing is terrible, and bordering on Autistic:
Quote:You are a mid-twenties human being. You have a significant other named Alex who you are rather fond of, that you have been seeing exclusively for the past few months. The rest of your social circle consists of a variety of friends and acquaintances, some of whom you met at your day job which is a little boring, but pays the rent. You'd like to be doing more with your life, as would your parents, but you're still in the process of figuring out what that means and how to go about it.
On top of that, she's shown an utter lack of understanding as to the reasons for her current troubles, and has handwaved away all criticism. As such, why would anyone expect such an unsightful, arrogant person to have any deep insight into depression, particularly as she has no psychological qualifications to speak of?
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RE: Zoe Quinn: Feminism, Game Journalims, and Corruption
(08-22-2014 03:46 AM)Ocelot Wrote: Whoever did this is either a fool, a shill or Phil Fish himself. It should be obvious to everyone that SJWs thrive best in a state of victimhood; anyone who provides them with ammunition through illegal attacks is a fucking idiot.
I've been doing some light research and, from all that I've read, this is as legit and as absolute a hack job as you'll ever see in your life: the dude's entire life was uploaded to a public file-hosting site, including all e-mails and password, PayPal and banking info, complete financial history of his game on Steam and Windows Games....just every single thing you can think of was in the 1.5 GB upload.
If this hacking was self-inflicted, then it was a prelude to the dude's suicide, because he has nothing left. (That is a tiny possibility - the dude sabotages his financial life and then blows his own head off to die as an SJW martyr - but only a tiny one.)
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The 4chan hack of Phil Fish's website has been confirmed to be a fake. Someone ran an analysis of Polytron's hosting services and discovered that Fish didn't even try to make it look like a convincing hack. You can see all the action here.
Here's a screenshot proving that the 4chan hack on Fish's website was faked.
This is huge. Not only did Fish dox himself in order to protect Zoe Quinn, he doxxed every single employee of Polytron. He basically destroyed his own business just to protect the career of this whore and get back at those big meanies insulting him on Twitter. He could go to prison for exposing employees' info and said employees could also very easily sue him into oblivion over this. Even if neither happens, no one with half a brain will ever work for or with Phil Fish ever again.
I give him a week before he slits his wrists in the bathtub.
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(08-22-2014 03:51 AM)DavidMI Wrote: (08-22-2014 03:46 AM)Ocelot Wrote: Whoever did this is either a fool, a shill or Phil Fish himself. It should be obvious to everyone that SJWs thrive best in a state of victimhood; anyone who provides them with ammunition through illegal attacks is a fucking idiot.
I've been doing some light research and, from all that I've read, this is as legit and as absolute a hack job as you'll ever see in your life: the dude's entire life was uploaded to a public file-hosting site, including all e-mails and password, PayPal and banking info, complete financial history of his game on Steam and Windows Games....just every single thing you can think of was in the 1.5 GB upload.
If this hacking was self-inflicted, then it was a prelude to the dude's suicide, because he has nothing left. (That is a tiny possibility - the dude sabotages his financial life and then blows his own head off to die as an SJW martyr - but only a tiny one.)
We're talking about an individual that has "quit the internet forever" multiple times and cancelled development of a sequel to his game, both in semi-regular tantrums responding to alleged haters and game journalists that reviewed him poorly.
I'm split 50/50 on if this is real or staged.
If he staged this I really doubt he'll be able to conceal that from the powers that be, we'll know soon enough.
So hilarious outcome either way. Either he WAS doxed, or he staged this and will be facing a partyvan soon.
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RE: Zoe Quinn: Feminism, Game Journalims, and Corruption
To be honest, I'm not sure what the fuss is about. Don't give these people attention. People are acting like there's no alternative but to play this SJW bullshit game. Of course there is. The free market will sort this out. If people started their own computer game companies, comic book companies, etc. and produced high quality content, they could do so almost anywhere in the world. The last place they would need to do it would be in the West. Wargaming, which produces the massively popular World of Tanks, operates out of Belarus.
Quote:World of Tanks holds a Guinness World Record in the category of Most Players Online Simultaneously on one MOG Server. The record was registered on 23 January 2011 when the number of players on the game's Russian server totaled 91,311.[59] This record was beaten by the European server on 13 April 2012 during the anniversary special weekend where all players could enter a code to be Premium account holders for a day. Numbers of over 305,000 were recorded during this period.
As of December 2013, there are 75,000,000 registered players worldwide and a 1.1 million peak concurrent players.[60] This is an increase of 15 million over the 60 million in June 2013[61] and 30 million over the 45 million in December 2012.[62] Within two weeks of the launch of the South Korean server, the number of concurrent users in Korea reached 10,000.[63]
In 2012, Wargaming's revenue was declared to be 217.9 million Euro, with net profit of 6.1 million Euro, as declared in an annual report for the Cyprus Stock Exchange. The money gained by Wargaming almost exclusively came from World of Tanks.[64]
In 2013, the microtransaction revenue of World of Tanks surpassed that of World of Warcraft, earning $372 million and ranking fourth highest amongst online game revenues.
Admittedly, there's probably not much of an angle for SJW in a shooter game about tanks, but if people want red pill content (or at least something free of mega-blue pill content), then there's a business opportunity there. Christian evangelists got sick of what comes out of Hollywood, so they started producing their own movies, some of which have done very well.
I think we're going to see more of this kind of thing in general, and not just in these fields, but in all professional fields, in investing, etc. As the world becomes more globalised, people are either going to physically relocate to places such as Singapore, or just work online for foreign companies who don't give a shit about all this SJW bullshit, and instead want to produce or offer high quality products and services. If it is good, it will sell. People will vote with their feet and their wallets.
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(08-22-2014 05:43 AM)Feisbook Control Wrote: To be honest, I'm not sure what the fuss is about. Don't give these people attention. People are acting like there's no alternative but to play this SJW bullshit game. Of course there is. The free market will sort this out.
Gamers just need to stop going to any gaming site that peddles SJW bullshit completely, so they're not giving them clicks.
Whenever a bunch of whiny SJW's get together to critique a person or target a company, the gamers need to gather together en masse and petition the company back, instead of just sitting there, ignoring the problem. Why don't they ever organise? Hell, why don't they threaten their own boycott of gaming companies that advertise on these sites and put these people out of their smug, complacent jobs?
Why don't they vote with their dollars and their clicks and do something to save their hobby?
I've said before all men need to do to stop the bullshit at Comic Con is to just segregate it completely, or simply start a movement to boycott the entire event over being bossed around by agenda-driven feminists. No consumers = no money. It only took ET to crash the videogame industry when I was a kid, and Quinn's just as ugly.
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The plot thickens, as Phil Fish just put both Polytron and the Fez IP up for sale:
Quote:The always controversial Phil Fish has said that both his studio Polytron and his indie IP Fez are up for sale.
The proclamation was made on the developer’s Twitter account, which has since been closed yet again as Fish appears to have quit the games industry for a second time.
Having been in a pretty relentless war of wills with vocal critics online since his sudden resurrection on social media earlier this month, Fish yesterday entered the ongoing row concerning Depression Quest developer Zoe Quinn. And it’s the fallout from this move that appears to have pushed him over the edge.
He's a classic narcissist and this latest move is just an attempt at preserving his false reality. Fish gets to play the persecuted auteur who was callously driven from his one true love---video games---by evil misogynistic "soul-virgins." This is precisely the self-sabotaging behavior that narcissists engage in: they'll hurt themselves so long as there's a possibly that the people they hate (in this case, the evil "misogynistic" trolls) will be hurt even more.
I believe it's past time for this story to get the full Matt Forney treatment. Stay peeled...
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(08-22-2014 06:31 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote: Why don't they vote with their dollars and their clicks and do something to save their hobby?
I've said before all men need to do to stop the bullshit at Comic Con is to just segregate it completely, or simply start a movement to boycott the entire event over being bossed around by agenda-driven feminists. No consumers = no money. It only took ET to crash the videogame industry when I was a kid, and Quinn's just as ugly.
The media they consume leads them to believe that they should only be attracted to "geek girls", the supply of which is so wildly limited that they will have a better chance of a fulfilling sex life by playing a 'girlfriend simulator' game.
Like most men, they have romantic, idealistic dreams, and these are dangled out of reach, with the constant threat of loss should they step out of line.
They have been manipulated and isolated for years now, we're getting a glimpse through this story at how high up the cultural marxism/SJW corruption has infected the games industry.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/j...7.21285525
Quote:It is now abundantly clear that somehow, from somewhere, there is an agenda being pushed and maintained by "games journalism". So strongly that they have managed to quell discussion of this everywhere. Everywhere. It disagrees with their narrative. We have seen contributions from people showing how dissent from this agenda within the industry earns you blackball; we have seen how firmly they want to cast you, as a gamer, as complicit in a problem that doesn't exist. They have woven a narrative that turns you into an asshole. Ironically, they are in fact gaslighting you. What you are witnessing firsthand is the attempt by interest groups to control perception, control story, control PR, using the fact they control all the channels and forms of media to reshape reality and represent it to you the way they want. And they want you to be a misogynistic oaf participating in a misogynistic culture.
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