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(09-03-2014 05:26 PM)DaveR Wrote:  
(09-03-2014 04:45 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  DaveR, why don't you simply tell the audience that you tried to Private Message me and asked me to clarify and confirm some suspicions you have about Australian men and whether they're able to seduce Russian women -- only for me to disagree with you -- rather than pretend that my analysis about Australian life, culture and women are incorrect.

You pedestalize Russian women too much.

Anyone who has collaborated game in Australia for significant periods of time, had considerable exchanges with slavic women, and lived in Europe for a significant period of time would recognise what I'm saying. It's fairly black and white, no nonsense logic.. almost similar to a man who went to Toronto or Washington DC and comes on the forums and tells the audience that he can meet girls of Eastern European quality in such anglo-shitholes. The unlikeliness, coupled by the sheer lack of insights in Rush87s account, has led me to believe he is mental masturbating his reality for other reasons.

There is no grey areas in this. Anyone who comes on to this forum claiming that they sleep with such girls are either telling lies, or are under the classification of: baller status. It's a huge disservice to the community who plan to consider Australia as a possible destination for their careers or even their families.

Tonipepperoni, if you had actually read Rush87's posts, you would understand that what he wrote is far from what you claim that he did. Your assertion that there are no grey areas shows clearly that your argument lacks nuance. Not everyone is obsessed with night clubs as you seem to be. As a result, others have experiences contrary to your views - something that you seem unwilling to accept. Resorting to ad hominem attacks doesn't strengthen your argument; it only shows immaturity and/or sociopathy.

As far as your crusade for the Truth is concerned, I find your assertions far more misleading than those of Rush87. So far you have painted British, Irish, Italian and Spanish men as "potato heads," whatever that means. You write highly of Swedish and German women, but the body of experience on this forum shows the opposite. You conflate various Eastern nationalities into one. Whatever experience you have in Australia is irrelevant considering the way you write about Europe with so little nuance.

As far as Russians are concerned: I don't place Russian women on pedestals at all - far from it. However, unlike yourself, I speak their language fluently and have taken the time to understand them and their culture. You clearly have not, as evidenced by the way that you conflate Russian, Ukrainian, and other Slavic nationalities to infer that they are culturally homogenous.


For the record, I never bothered to reply to that PM because it became clear that your views on Russia are grossly misplaced.

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Polish guys know the language, know their culture and understand the history of their country very well.. but to gain insights from them about how their women behave in Poland and in places like Italy and Spain would be a to gain access to an exclusive viewing of "Potato" (2014) - A documentary on how to be a social retard in the 21st century.

I do not write highly of Swedish and German women, I'm simply putting them in the context of Australia, for which you have completely ignored. However, I am also not far sighted as many of those who have written negative views about such places, because I am not the type of person who goes to tourist venues in Sodermalm which is where all the datahseet analysis comes from.

You have extremely limited knowledge on Australia, which is what this thread is about, and you're here, clearly because you're offended by the fact that even daughters of nobility in your beloved St Petersburg have sex with plebian Cypriots on their tours, not to mention any Australian city, Miami, Paris, Milan etc.
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(09-03-2014 05:24 PM)Moma Wrote:  Toni, I'm hearing less of actual examples now from you and more theory. I will hold my opinions about black guys killing it in Australia. From my recollection, Auzzies are merely Brits in a different location and in certain parts of the UK, black guys are killing it. So by proxy it must go that if black guys kill it with Brits, then they must do so with Auzzies since the culture is very similar.

Also remember that clubs are not the only place that guys can hunt a lizard. You can get a lizard from a social event, local gym or even road game. The black guys did a lot of road game in the area of England I'm from. Some of them only went to the clubs for music. Getting lizards from a club was a byproduct of just going there for good music.

The majority of their feasting was done in other venues. Did you have any suave Western black friends growing up in Australia?

What do you want to hear? I lived in Australia for 24 years, I've spent considerable time in London and I lived in Paris. I've gamed both women to know the obvious differences.

Australia is not the same.

British girls are psychologically quite different to Australian girls. Firstly, Australia is an extremely insular country with a fairly new migrant population. Our history of southern European migrants was in the 40s-50s-60s, and asian migrants from the 70s and 80s. We don't have a rich history of black migrants or a significant proportion of Blacks. Whereas Britain, particularly London who have had Caribbeans integrated as part of their culture.

The same goes for the French. Blacks are an integral part of life in both of these locations, whereas in Australia they're merely a novelty or social outcasts at best (google Sudanese refugees Australia).

Australia is also a solitary island in the Pacific ocean. We do not have many tourists infecting our clubs or romantic life. For the most part, we're extremely insular.

There is no city in Australia which is a cultural melting pot like London. Melbourne doesn't even come close, it's a tribal culture.

The chance of seeing a black guy holding a white girls hand in Australia is not a day to day occurence. It's not even something you'll see happening once a month.. Not even yearly...

I've even witnessed highly educated Australians (a med student) make extremely prejudicial remarks when it does happen.

In London it's a day to day occurrence, and a Aussie visiting there might actually be taken back by it.
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Toni, I didn't ask about dating the lizards. I was asking about killing it. To me, killing it isn't relationships, it's about hitting the reptiles and sneaking out before either social circle is the wiser.

Blacks kill it in Russia/Ukraine but I haven't heard of hordes of mixed couples spooning and holding hands on the mean streets of Moscow..

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(09-03-2014 05:43 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  What do you want to hear? I lived in Australia for 24 years, I've spent considerable time in London and I lived in Paris. I've gamed both women to know the obvious differences.

Australia is not the same.

British girls are psychologically quite different to Australian girls. Firstly, Australia is an extremely insular country with a fairly new migrant population. Our history of southern European migrants was in the 40s-50s-60s, and asian migrants from the 70s and 80s. We don't have a rich history of black migrants or a significant proportion of Blacks. Whereas Britain, particularly London who have had Caribbeans integrated as part of their culture.

The same goes for the French. Blacks are an integral part of life in both of these locations, whereas in Australia they're merely a novelty or social outcasts at best (google Sudanese refugees Australia).

Australia is also a solitary island in the Pacific ocean. We do not have many tourists infecting our clubs or romantic life. For the most part, we're extremely insular.

There is no city in Australia which is a cultural melting pot like London. Melbourne doesn't even come close, it's a tribal culture.

The chance of seeing a black guy holding a white girls hand in Australia is not a day to day occurence. It's not even something you'll see happening once a month.. Not even yearly...

I've even witnessed highly educated Australians (a med student) make extremely prejudicial remarks when it does happen.

In London it's a day to day occurrence, and a Aussie visiting there might actually be taken back by it.


Things must have changed quite a bit. Granted it was some time ago, but I worked with a black American, while working a contract in Oz, who dated white women that he wouldn't be getting back in the states.
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(09-03-2014 05:56 PM)Moma Wrote:  Toni, I didn't ask about dating the lizards. I was asking about killing it. To me, killing it isn't relationships, it's about hitting the reptiles and sneaking about before either social circle is the wiser.

Blacks kill it in Russia/Ukraine but I haven't heard of hordes of mixed couples spooning and holding hands on the mean streets of Moscow..

'Killing it' and dating are fairly synonymous. For the record, I've known enough Blacks who moved to Australia from the states who remained sexless virgins for their entire stay despite possessing some level of game. I also grew up with a guy who was popular in highschool, but became sexless in adult life.

Have you ever been to Russia and Ukraine and been able to kill it or are you simply going on accounts of how one Black man describes his experience in those places by a datasheet?

Philko gives you a realistic account.



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- Don't come to Russia without contacts
- Russian girls are much much better looking than American women
- @7:30 He addresses it.
- 5 out of 100 girls are "into" Black guys

I'd put the figure lower than that because Philko represents the hip-hop personalities people see on MTV quite well; this can't be said for all blacks visiting Russia.
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Toni, I had a friend who looked like Idi Amin who was killing it in Russia with the finest white lizards I had ever seen. His game was nothing to write home about. When he came to London, he struggled to get the same level of white lizards and had to change race targets in order to maintain.

All I'm saying is, don't qualify what people are doing based on the tomfoolery you see in the night clubs. Those venues are just a parody of life and not an accurate reflection on when the lizards get wet and need to get stuck with a beef stick.

Anyway, this is all hearsay for me. I've never been to Australia and you've never been to Toronto so until we both exchange ACTUAL experiences, we are both just pissing merrily in the wind.

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Any Australian who engages in club game, is also able to transition into other forms of game relatively easily: day game, social circle game, tinder game, etc etc.
If you can survive club game in Australia and get sizeable results, then transitioning to other game formats is a significant breeze.

For the record, I worked as an asshole promoter, and it was my duty to meet women outside clubbing hours. While I have knowledge on how to run high level game inside an Australian club, its not something I'd advocate and it's not some kind of insular world which I'm shielded from. Most of my quality notches came from social events.

I think what I've been trying to indicate to you which is actually reaching a level of skepticism within the forums, is the level of competition that's in Australia. While Toronto is fucked for demographics, politics, nanny state, gays blah blah.......... Australia is a blurry place because you'll see girls who dress like Porn stars who 'appear' to look good in nightclubs (when they're genetically British, like you say), but you'll be toughing it out with men who are athletic, handsome and who go to enormous and depraved lengths to out-peacock each other.

It's why Alexander from RSD even claimed Melbourne to be the most difficult ground for meeting women. If you really want a scale of how bad it is: Aussie guys travel to America purely for sex tourism.
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(09-03-2014 05:39 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  Polish guys know the language, know their culture and understand the history of their country very well.. but to gain insights from them about how their women behave in Poland and in places like Italy and Spain would be a to gain access to an exclusive viewing of "Potato" (2014) - A documentary on how to be a social retard in the 21st century.
Again, what does Poland and its culture have to do with Russia?

(09-03-2014 05:39 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  I do not write highly of Swedish and German women, I'm simply putting them in the context of Australia, for which you have completely ignored. However, I am also not far sighted as many of those who have written negative views about such places, because I am not the type of person who goes to tourist venues in Sodermalm which is where all the datahseet analysis comes from.
If your intention was purely to compare Australian women with their Swedish and German counterparts, then yes, I missed the context of that comparison. However, I believe that context was lost when you began your 10-page diatribe about the virtues of Sweden, Germany, and your decision to expatriate. If you have some knowledge about Stockholm which isn't generally known on the forum, why don't you write a datasheet instead of beating the same dead horse for three weeks?

(09-03-2014 05:39 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  You have extremely limited knowledge on Australia, which is what this thread is about, and you're here, clearly because you're offended by the fact that even daughters of nobility in your beloved St Petersburg have sex with plebian Cypriots on their tours, not to mention any Australian city, Miami, Paris, Milan etc.
This thread would have been about Australia if you hadn't derailed it in long form. I happen to have a strong connection to Italy, as does the man who started the thread, so I decided to share my views from that perspective.

As usual, you seem unable to keep derision out of your arguments. I fully expect you to retort with some lame reasoning as to why only your experience counts. What is that really about? Do you need the concurrence of others in order to justify your decision to expatriate? Would it be so difficult to accept that a man who isn't a self-declared 'aristocrat' like yourself may view Australia as a reasonable compromise? You admitted that "Shane" could do quite well in Australia; if so, why would he give up economic prosperity, relatively high-quaity medical care and good weather to chase women on the other side of the world who are possibly one point more attractive but mentally incompatible with himself?
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I've seen black guys who fit certain stereotypes "kill it" in Australia in particular niches, but that might be a relative term because hardly any guy here does well.

For those who are curious about "Shane", just google "Bondi Vet Chris Brown". Usually if you're out at night, you'd be competing against at least one of those guys for any given HB7 or less.

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Quote:Again, what does Poland and its culture have to do with Russia?
My point is that an insular existence with little context wont give you an edge in social intelligence.

A russian guy or russian ex-pat living in Russia for 10 years, with little or no depth of knowledge of multiple gaming environments, who belongs to a less active age group, or is in a domesticated setting (with a wife) like yourself, is probably not an ideal candidate to give a suitable contrast on how russian women behave. Instead, is more likely to be a giant man baby who can rely on his local women for validation without pushing himself in more difficult environments.

If you would like, I have a Russian friend, who's lived in Australia longer than me, to jump on the forums -- he'll confirm everything I have to say about Russian girls and Australia.


Quote:If your intention was purely to compare Australian women with their Swedish and German counterparts, then yes, I missed the context of that comparison. However, I believe that context was lost when you began your 10-page monologue about the virtues of Sweden, Germany, and your decision to expatriate. If you have some knowledge about Stockholm which isn't generally known on the forum, why don't you write a datasheet instead of beating the same dead horse for three weeks?
Why would I want to spoil the places I know and love by publishing shit on the internet? I gain absolutely no value from it, except internet respect. Most of the best places I currently go to have little residue on the internet.

As for my views on Germany and Sweden -- I'm merely commenting on Rush87's belief that his Australian baller lifestyle is unparalleled and can't be matched with that in Europe. Rush87 made the claim that he not only has access to beautiful nature, infrastructure, 'wonderful' cities, but also has access to feminine 8/10 women which only the top 2% of men have in Australia. It's the rough equivalence of guy from DC saying he continuously beds women more aesthetic than Mila Knuis monthly and telling others that "DC isn't such a bad place, I get 8's regularly" Such comments would receive harsh skepticism here.

Quote:As usual, you seem unable to keep derision out of your arguments. I fully expect you to retort with some lame reasoning as to why only your experience counts. What is that really about? Do you need the concurrence of others in order to justify your decision to expatriate? Would it be so difficult to accept that a man who isn't a self-declared 'aristocrat' like yourself may view Australia as a reasonable compromise? You admitted that "Shane" could do quite well in Australia; if so, why would he give up economic prosperity, relatively high-quaity medical care and good weather to chase women on the other side of the world who are possibly one point more attractive but mentally incompatible with himself?

The fact that you can't recognise the obvious hyperbole with the 'aristocrat' comment is telling.

Quote:You admitted that "Shane" could do quite well in Australia; if so, why would he give up economic prosperity, relatively high-quaity medical care and good weather to chase women on the other side of the world who are possibly one point more attractive but mentally incompatible with himself?
I never said all "Shanes" do well, I only said that women prefer men who resemble Shane, or at least I've implied it.
Australia is full of Shanes. You'll encounter many Shanes in Australia. Even the extremely handsome Shane still has a fairly low notch count, because there are many handsome Shanes.

The ideal for Australia is Extremely handsome Shane, jacked (body builder physique), Gamey/peacocky and high social status. Such a male represents the top 1% of any given city and would do well.

Even despite all his possible successes, such a man will still never encounter the same feminine exchanges he could potentially have elsewhere in Europe.
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(09-03-2014 08:04 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  I've seen black guys who fit certain stereotypes "kill it" in Australia in particular niches, but that might be a relative term because hardly any guy here does well.

For those who are curious about "Shane", just google "Bondi Vet Chris Brown". Usually if you're out at night, you'd be competing against at least one of those guys for any given HB7 or less.

[Image: BondiVet_About_ChrisBrown_small.jpg]

Yep, that's a Shane.
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(09-03-2014 08:04 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  I've seen black guys who fit certain stereotypes "kill it" in Australia in particular niches, but that might be a relative term because hardly any guy here does well.

I think we have to be careful when mentioning such things. It could be argued that we're only excluding or flagging such events based on the fact that it's a black guy in 'Straya. Same could be said about a Goth guy or a Death Metal Band Guitar player..

We already have a fairly large population of Maoris and Islanders who fulfill the bad boy hip-hop quota; many of which physically resemble the characteristics of LLCoolJ, all of which who desperately holler at girls at south-eastern suburbs without a single notch to their name for any given month. I have seen some islanders do well, but on close inspection, many are on dry spells just like every other Australian guy.

Niche, niche, niche -- It seems like the keyword in Australia...
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@tonipepporini, I literally just rolled with an African American RVF member last week (amazoncrime). He got tons of attention here, getting checked out on the street and in the club. In 1 day in Melbourne he got 3 dozen tinder matches and had decent looking girls throwing themselves at him over it, going out of their way to try and meet him etc. One girl (7/10) hooked us up with free entry and free drinks all night to a club she worked at 2 years ago, after having only met us outside it for not even 2 minutes beforehand, basically just because he's black. I have very very good looking white friends who don't get thirst at the level amazoncrime got here.
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(09-03-2014 08:07 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  A russian guy or russian ex-pat living in Russia for 10 years, with little or no depth of knowledge of multiple gaming environments, who belongs to a less active age group, or is in a domesticated setting (with a wife) like yourself, is probably not an ideal candidate to give a suitable contrast on how russian women behave. Instead, is more likely to be a giant man baby who can rely on his local women for validation without pushing himself in more difficult environments.
Wrong on all counts; I'm not married and, in fact, I'm younger than Roosh. As expected, only your experience counts. Everyone else is inferior, less experienced, and lacking the philosophical skills necessary to comprehend the situation as only you can. Have you considered starting a cult?

(09-03-2014 08:07 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  If you would like, I have a Russian friend, who's lived in Australia longer than me, to jump on the forums -- he'll confirm everything I have to say about Russian girls and Australia.
Sure, create a fake account if you like.

(09-03-2014 08:07 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  Why would I want to spoil the places I know and love by publishing shit on the internet? I gain absolutely no value from it, except internet respect. Most of the best places I currently go to have little residue on the internet.
And I know places where taxi drivers can pick up supermodels every day of the week, but I'm not telling you where they are. Cheers.

(09-03-2014 08:07 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  Even despite all his possible successes, such a man will still never encounter the same feminine exchanges he could potentially have elsewhere in Europe.
That was always understood; what you seem to have missed is the fact that there are other priorities. On the balance, the situation is nowhere near as black/white as you're implying. Your experience in Australia may have been quite negative, but it's clear that others on this forum have different experiences and more balanced views.
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(09-03-2014 08:37 PM)Deluge Wrote:  @tonipepporini, I literally just rolled with an African American RVF member last week (amazoncrime). He got tons of attention here, getting checked out on the street and in the club. In 24 hours in Melbourne he got 3 dozen tinder matches and had decent looking girls throwing themselves at him over it, going out of their way to try and meet him etc. I have very very good looking white friends who don't get thirst at the level amazoncrime got here.

The first few days or weeks in a city isn't exactly a good way to determine whether a country is suitable or not.

I'd be more interested in seeing genuine accounts of a Black guy who's able to get consistent quality notches on a monthly basis.
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(09-03-2014 08:39 PM)DaveR Wrote:  
(09-03-2014 08:07 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  A russian guy or russian ex-pat living in Russia for 10 years, with little or no depth of knowledge of multiple gaming environments, who belongs to a less active age group, or is in a domesticated setting (with a wife) like yourself, is probably not an ideal candidate to give a suitable contrast on how russian women behave. Instead, is more likely to be a giant man baby who can rely on his local women for validation without pushing himself in more difficult environments.
Wrong on all counts; I'm not married and, in fact, I'm younger than Roosh. As expected, only your experience counts. Everyone else is inferior, less experienced, and lacking the philosophical skills necessary to comprehend the situation as only you can. Have you considered starting a cult?

(09-03-2014 08:07 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  If you would like, I have a Russian friend, who's lived in Australia longer than me, to jump on the forums -- he'll confirm everything I have to say about Russian girls and Australia.
Sure, create a fake account if you like.

(09-03-2014 08:07 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  Why would I want to spoil the places I know and love by publishing shit on the internet? I gain absolutely no value from it, except internet respect. Most of the best places I currently go to have little residue on the internet.
And I know places where taxi drivers can pick up supermodels every day of the week, but I'm not telling you where they are. Cheers.

(09-03-2014 08:07 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  Even despite all his possible successes, such a man will still never encounter the same feminine exchanges he could potentially have elsewhere in Europe.
That was always understood; what you seem to have missed is the fact that there are other priorities. On the balance, the situation is nowhere near as black/white as you're implying. Your experience in Australia may have been quite negative, but it's clear that others on this forum have different experiences and more balanced views.

DaveR, if you want, he can write to you in PM in Russian. Or even speak to you on a Russian number and confirm what I have to say. Or perhaps even meet you if you're up for it.

I think the first option is more suitable since you're probably not going to engage in the other two.

DaveR, you seem to be under the impression that Russian girls of certain social status don't engage in sex tourism?
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(09-03-2014 08:37 PM)Deluge Wrote:  @tonipepporini, I literally just rolled with an African American RVF member last week (amazoncrime). He got tons of attention here, getting checked out on the street and in the club. In 1 day in Melbourne he got 3 dozen tinder matches and had decent looking girls throwing themselves at him over it, going out of their way to try and meet him etc. One girl (7/10) hooked us up with free entry and free drinks all night to a club she worked at 2 years ago, after having only met us outside it for not even 2 minutes beforehand, basically just because he's black. I have very very good looking white friends who don't get thirst at the level amazoncrime got here.

PS) You didn't exactly post his details or give context:
Quote:Headed to OZ for the first time towards the end of this month. Sydney first, then want to do Melbourne so there for few days as well. Me: mixed (black/Caucasian), about 6'4" or 193 cm, 20's, corporate job; night game, intermediate. I got some good intel previously from a few guys a while back (thanks again), now more certain of my itinerary and such. Would be cool to link up with any locals or anybody traveling those parts.
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(09-03-2014 08:41 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  The first few days or weeks in a city isn't exactly a good way to determine whether a country is suitable or not.

True, hence why I mentioned the three dozen tinder matches in 24 hours since it's an objective metric. I've never met anyone here whose beaten that, including tall white guys who are better looking than him.

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Quote:Headed to OZ for the first time towards the end of this month. Sydney first, then want to do Melbourne so there for few days as well. Me: mixed (black/Caucasian), about 6'4" or 193 cm, 20's, corporate job; night game, intermediate. I got some good intel previously from a few guys a while back (thanks again), now more certain of my itinerary and such. Would be cool to link up with any locals or anybody traveling those parts.

I'm about to leave the house. The thing with him is he's mixed and looks like he could even be Indian, at least in a place with a lot of Indian's and very few black people. If he looked darker and had a more urban style rather than clean cut I think he would've done even better.
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Quote:True, hence why I mentioned the three dozen tinder matches in 24 hours since it's an objective metric. I've never met anyone here whose beaten that, including tall white guys who are better looking than him.
Everything is subjective.
Can an Italian guy 'kill' it in Australia? Generally no. Can an Italian guy who looks like David Gandy get 36 tinder matches? Yes, of course. And also, Tinder is subjective based on whether you've just switched your location.

The best method of trying to determine ones social value is what someone's potential notch count would be ... and of what quality i.e. how many 10s, 9s, 8s and 7s.

I think it's safe to say that an Aussie guy in Eastern Europe can get anywhere in the 10 to 8 range multiple times a month. Whereas in central europe, 7 to 8 range multiple times a month.

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In Australia, the 8 range is only satisfied once yearly (at most) for an attractive guy with social status... the 6s-7s is 4 times a year (at most), and the 5.5s at desperate and needy times. But most 'gamey' practicioners in Australia will be lucky to score a new 6s-7s 3 to 4 times a year. Non-gamey guys will be likely to get a 6 once a year (at best).

Confirm or deny?

This is acceptable for some people, but not for me. Anyways, with that and the relative Cost ($) per notch associated with it, the smoke and mirrors and the illusions are no longer there.. It's an expensive place to bag 6s.
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(09-03-2014 08:07 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  Why would I want to spoil the places I know and love by publishing shit on the internet? I gain absolutely no value from it, except internet respect. Most of the best places I currently go to have little residue on the internet.

Implying that more than a 100 people would even see the post, maybe 5-6 of whom actually live in Australia
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Tonipepperoni, do you actually want to contribute something to this community, or do you simply enjoy endless debates? As it stands right now, you're contributing very little and showing blatant disrespect to anyone who disagrees with you. You write as if your views are superior and infallible, and attempt to cast your dissenters as "social retards" despite knowing practically nothing about them.
People will form differing views given the same information - that is a fact of life. There is no need to descend into sociopathic, ad hominem attacks if you happen to disagree with someone. Doing so only gives the impression that one is either immature or has a personality disorder.

(09-03-2014 08:45 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  DaveR, you seem to be under the impression that Russian girls of certain social status don't engage in sex tourism?
There are sluts at all levels of Russian society, and there are 21-year-old virgins at all levels too. I don't know what you are you trying to achieve by asking your acquaintance tell me what I already know, but it seems to me that it's simply more of the same arrogance that you've displayed since the beginning of this thread. Given your obvious partiality for nightclubs, I doubt that we have anything in common at all, and as a result, your views are largely irrelevant to me. The same is likely to be true in reverse.
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(09-03-2014 10:05 PM)Cyclone Wrote:  
(09-03-2014 08:07 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  Why would I want to spoil the places I know and love by publishing shit on the internet? I gain absolutely no value from it, except internet respect. Most of the best places I currently go to have little residue on the internet.

Implying that more than a 100 people would even see the post, maybe 5-6 of whom actually live in Australia
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He's talking about venues that I know in specific European cities.

I definitely do not believe in publishing data sheets.

The amount of lurkers this forum attracts who end up in the venues based on the published content here is not exclusive.. I even randomly bumped into a swiss guy who visited my City who printed a datasheet directly from this website -- all the venues which he had suggested were horseshit.

The places that I enjoy the most, have little or no tourist population and are my honey pot. Pussy paradise is all about the right genetic quotient, the lack of game practitioners and the lack of foreign cock.

It's not necessarily about being scared of competition; competition simply soils the game and in the end, no one gets laid. The reason why western women are masculine is not necessarily because of feminism, but rather, men have to go to extravagant lengths to 'compete' for them.

I'm selfish, but game and pussy is a zero-sum.. and if there's any community benefit in what I have to say.. well I'm trying to relate with how things are on macroscopic level, gain some social analysis, deep philosophical insights.. rather than quick answers.
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(09-03-2014 10:11 PM)DaveR Wrote:  Tonipepperoni, do you actually want to contribute something to this community, or do you simply enjoy endless debates? As it stands right now, you're contributing very little and showing blatant disrespect to anyone who disagrees with you. You write as if your views are superior and infallible, and attempt to cast your dissenters as "social retards" despite knowing practically nothing about them.
People will form differing views given the same information - that is a fact of life. There is no need to descend into sociopathic, ad hominem attacks if you happen to disagree with someone. Doing so only gives the impression that one is either immature or has a personality disorder.

(09-03-2014 08:45 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  DaveR, you seem to be under the impression that Russian girls of certain social status don't engage in sex tourism?
There are sluts at all levels of Russian society, and there are 21-year-old virgins at all levels too. I don't know what you are you trying to achieve by asking your acquaintance tell me what I already know, but it seems to me that it's simply more of the same arrogance that you've displayed since the beginning of this thread. Given your obvious partiality for nightclubs, I doubt that we have anything in common at all, and as a result, your views are largely irrelevant to me. The same is likely to be true in reverse.

If I have nothing to contribute, how is it that I've accrued reputation points at a rate faster than yourself?

I don't think you understand the level of slutdom. And the level of Russian slutdom is unparalleled in cognitive dissonance levels to other European women.

You seem to be under the impression that I only go to nigthclubs and aren't able to meet women outside this and my views reflect that.

On the other hand, since you probably aren't the type to visit such travel destinations, you're completely oblivious to how your Princesses behave on tour.

Which is why I'm accusing you of putting them on a pedestal.
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(09-03-2014 10:16 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  If I have nothing to contribute, how is it that I've accrued reputation points at a rate faster than yourself?

I don't think you understand the level of slutdom. And the level of Russian slutdom is unparalleled in cognitive dissonance levels to other European women.

You seem to be under the impression that I only go to nigthclubs and aren't able to meet women outside this and my views reflect that.

On the other hand, since you probably aren't the type to visit such travel destinations, you're completely oblivious to how your Princesses behave on tour.

Which is why I'm accusing you of putting them on a pedestal.

You accrued reputation points very quickly at the beginning of this thread. I, too, gave you a reputation point, but later removed it due your disrespect of other members of this forum. I notice that some others have done the same.

As difficult as it may be for you to fathom, I am fully aware of what happens when Russian girls travel without a male figure leading them.

I'll put you back on my ignore list and leave it at that. Your posts are, essentially, a waste of my time. I'm sure everyone can come to their own conclusions given that this thread has more than run its course.
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