Post: #226

This topic has taken quite a radical turn, but I can't really disagree with most of the points presented either. I can only recall one Australian girl I've been with that ever displayed a minimum of masculine behavior (though she was quite the drinker). She was like a 5 at best, and it was before I had any real semblance of game. I actually think her friend would've been similar but it was a same-day date situation where it was one girl or the other. The one I went out with was from Brisbane if I recall, not sure about the other.

Post: #227

(08-24-2014 09:49 PM)DaveR Wrote:  Toni, I can only speak for Melbourne, but I would say the black/white view that you are presenting is not accurate for every man. Comparing women from disparate continents is all well and good, but the other side that must be considered is that men are not universal either. The typical Australian male personality is a very poor match for the Russian soul, as confirmed by myself and also by Russian women who have lived and studied in Australia. I myself found Australian men of similar backgrounds (banking, law) difficult to connect with, compared to the Russians and Armenians who I've grown most similar to. Even Italian and Spanish men have trouble adapting to the Orthodox mindset. In the world of a beta, where short-term relationships are not a sustainable option (if an option at all), those factors matter.

Russian girls are sex tourists. Just like Polish girls are sex tourists.

They will present themselves as cultured, intelligent, art loving creatures who are traditional, but deep down they want to ride the euphoria of infinite social validation spiral in Turkey and Egypt. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

With Polish girls it's Spain and Italy.

Both have intellectual cultures, with Polish girls being the semi-intelligent equivalent of Ukranians/Russsians.

Despite Spain and Italy having some of the most potato headed men who can barely strike a conversation in English, they're reasonably well liked by Polish girls because they're physically more handsome. But either way, Polish girls are simply content with experiencing the upwards spiral of being treated like a princess.

Logic would tell you that they're not suited by culture or interests.

On the same level, while Australia is a backwards redneck culture filled with it's logical positivist anglo saxon empiricism traditions, and cultural retardations with zero history and country bumpkins who can offer small talk about how they went to the Zoo... A russian 6/10 will definitely feel more at home being validated to the brim by Australian peacock experts.

I would take a Russian girls word on the country with a pinch of salt. Just like I wouldn't take a Polish girls word about her trip to Spain and Italy. Most will say "Latin men are lazy, they're like Big babies" -- but you just have to look in her eye and realise how drained it is with the lack of dopamine. She's just waiting to save that precious zloty to go to Portugal or Brazil.

Women aren't logical creatures. They don't like diamonds. They just want infinite attention. It's why Australia presents a unique Euphoric experience for women.

Post: #228

(08-24-2014 09:54 PM)Deluge Wrote:  Everyone I know who has moved from Melbourne or Sydney to Perth has told me Perth girls are hotter.

Everyone who moves to Perth moves for one reason: mining $$.

It's a lack-luster city filled with easy pay cheques.

People are simply validating their existence because of the new opportunities that they have for that city which may not be available in Syd/Melb.

Post: #229

(08-24-2014 10:00 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  Russian girls are sex tourists. Just like Polish girls are sex tourists.

They will present themselves as cultured, intelligent, art loving creatures who are traditional, but deep down they want to ride the euphoria of infinite social validation spiral in Turkey and Egypt. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

With Polish girls it's Spain and Italy.

Both have intellectual cultures, with Polish girls being the semi-intelligent equivalent of Ukranians/Russsians.

Despite Spain and Italy having some of the most potato headed men who can barely strike a conversation in English, they're reasonably well liked by Polish girls because they're physically more handsome. But either way, Polish girls are simply content with experiencing the upwards spiral of being treated like a princess.

On the same level, while Australia is a backwards redneck culture filled with it's logical positivist anglo saxon empiricism traditions, and cultural retardations with zero history and country bumpkins who can offer small talk about how they went to the Zoo... A russian 6/10 will definitely feel more at home being validated to the brim by Australian peacock experts.

I would take a Russian girls word on the country with a pinch of salt. Just like I wouldn't take a Polish girls word about her trip to Spain and Italy. Most will say "Latin men are lazy, they're like Big babies" -- but you just have to look in her eye and realise how drained it is with the lack of dopamine. She's just waiting to save that precious zloty to go to Portugal or Brazil.

Women aren't logical creatures. They don't like diamonds. They just want infinite attention. It's why Australia presents a unique Euphoric experience for women.

FYI, I know Russian sixes who had the opportunity to stay in Australia - citizenship, even - but they chose to leave. Some go there to study, others marry (either Australians or other nationalities) and emigrate. The result is generally always the same.

I've been here for a decade and I know them as well as anyone. The fact that you think Poles and Russians are similar tells me, frankly, that you don't know Russians half as well as you think you do. There may have been some parallels in the '90s and 2000s due to economic factors, but the mentality is fundamentally disparate.

As for the Latin men - languages are not a priority for them. Their own languages are rich and beautiful and the women have to learn them anyway, in order to live in the situations that a typical beta seeks. On a basic level they are more compatible with Russians than the Anglos are, as they have a deeper understanding of culture and a richer soul.

Post: #230

(08-24-2014 10:15 PM)DaveR Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 10:00 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  Russian girls are sex tourists. Just like Polish girls are sex tourists.

They will present themselves as cultured, intelligent, art loving creatures who are traditional, but deep down they want to ride the euphoria of infinite social validation spiral in Turkey and Egypt. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

With Polish girls it's Spain and Italy.

Both have intellectual cultures, with Polish girls being the semi-intelligent equivalent of Ukranians/Russsians.

Despite Spain and Italy having some of the most potato headed men who can barely strike a conversation in English, they're reasonably well liked by Polish girls because they're physically more handsome. But either way, Polish girls are simply content with experiencing the upwards spiral of being treated like a princess.

On the same level, while Australia is a backwards redneck culture filled with it's logical positivist anglo saxon empiricism traditions, and cultural retardations with zero history and country bumpkins who can offer small talk about how they went to the Zoo... A russian 6/10 will definitely feel more at home being validated to the brim by Australian peacock experts.

I would take a Russian girls word on the country with a pinch of salt. Just like I wouldn't take a Polish girls word about her trip to Spain and Italy. Most will say "Latin men are lazy, they're like Big babies" -- but you just have to look in her eye and realise how drained it is with the lack of dopamine. She's just waiting to save that precious zloty to go to Portugal or Brazil.

Women aren't logical creatures. They don't like diamonds. They just want infinite attention. It's why Australia presents a unique Euphoric experience for women.

FYI, I know Russian sixes who had the opportunity to stay in Australia - citizenship, even - but they chose to leave. Some go to study, others marry (either Australians or other nationalities) and emigrate. The result is generally always the same.

I've been here for a decade and I know them as well as anyone. The fact that you think Poles and Russians are similar tells me, frankly, that you don't know Russians half as well as you think you do. There may have been some parallels in the '90s and 2000s due to economic factors, but the mentality is fundamentally disparate.

DaveR,
Poles and Russians are very different, but the sex tour concept is the same. Slovak girls are notorious for not believing that their 'fate' exists in their ex-commie 'shithole' where they get zero validation. It doesn't match their princess fantasy. It's why they consistently book package tours.

To quote a Russian girl "I miss being treated like a Princess in London".

Intelligence and 'Russian Soul' doesn't matter when they're experiencing the euphoria of cock-validation.

What a Russian girl does is subjective and can't be predicted by a Military Radar.

I know Russian girls who've had babies with Thai guys. Doesn't mean my anecdotes are objectively correct and can be universally applicable.

A friend of mine who's a Melbourne native, Russian, and currently living in Moscow, witnessed a Bogan expat dating what most on here would consider a 9 or a 9.5.

He agrees with my sentiments that Australian men, despite obvious cultural incongruences, would have little trouble meeting and bedding Russian girls because they fit the racial phenotype which Russian girls crave (Blonde and Blue eyed whites) and have enough stamina and interest to pursue them.

Post: #231

DaveR,
All you have to do is read that Greek guy's thread about Crete. It is pretty much an exposition of what I'm talking about, except replace: Scandinavian males with Australian men and you will know where I'm coming from.

Post: #232

(08-24-2014 10:34 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  DaveR,
Poles and Russians are very different, but the sex tour concept is the same. Slovak girls are notorious for not believing that their 'fate' exists in their ex-commie 'shithole' where they get zero validation. It doesn't match their princess fantasy. It's why they consistently book package tours.

To quote a Russian girl "I miss being treated like a Princess in London".

Intelligence and 'Russian Soul' doesn't matter when they're experiencing the euphoria of cock-validation.

What a Russian girl does is subjective and can't be predicted by a Military Radar.

I know Russian girls who've had babies with Thai guys. Doesn't mean my anecdotes are objectively correct and can be universally applicable.

A friend of mine who's a Melbourne native, Russian, and currently living in Moscow, witnessed a Bogan expat dating what most on here would consider a 9 or a 9.5.

He agrees with my sentiments that Australian men, despite obvious cultural incongruences, would have little trouble meeting and bedding Russian girls because they fit the racial phenotype which Russian girls crave (Blonde and Blue eyed whites) and have enough stamina and interest to pursue them.

I'm well aware of what Russian women do on their holidays. Likewise, I'm well aware that low-value men from holiday destinations can catch themselves attractive but opportunistic women in Russia. That doesn't change the fact that there are fundamental differences in mentality and culture which present difficulties in longer-term relationships - the kind which most men seek.

Your premise, which you've repeated ad-nauseam, is that Australian women are the ugliest, most uncultured troglodytes on the planet, but Australian men - well, they are ultra-attractive alphas who could have Swedish nines lining up to meet them if only they realised that their own women were so ugly and primitive.

As others have pointed out many times, the situation is not as black-and-white as you are making it seem. Most men don't have the means or ability to expatriate, especially to the countries you mention, where an Australian passport is a significant disadvantage. What you are advocating is simply not sustainable for most men.

Post: #233

(08-24-2014 11:00 PM)DaveR Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 10:34 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  DaveR,
Poles and Russians are very different, but the sex tour concept is the same. Slovak girls are notorious for not believing that their 'fate' exists in their ex-commie 'shithole' where they get zero validation. It doesn't match their princess fantasy. It's why they consistently book package tours.

To quote a Russian girl "I miss being treated like a Princess in London".

Intelligence and 'Russian Soul' doesn't matter when they're experiencing the euphoria of cock-validation.

What a Russian girl does is subjective and can't be predicted by a Military Radar.

I know Russian girls who've had babies with Thai guys. Doesn't mean my anecdotes are objectively correct and can be universally applicable.

A friend of mine who's a Melbourne native, Russian, and currently living in Moscow, witnessed a Bogan expat dating what most on here would consider a 9 or a 9.5.

He agrees with my sentiments that Australian men, despite obvious cultural incongruences, would have little trouble meeting and bedding Russian girls because they fit the racial phenotype which Russian girls crave (Blonde and Blue eyed whites) and have enough stamina and interest to pursue them.

I'm well aware of what Russian women do on their holidays. Likewise, I'm well aware that low-value men from holiday destinations can catch themselves attractive but opportunistic women in Russia. That doesn't change the fact that there are fundamental differences in mentality and culture which present difficulties in longer-term relationships - the kind which most men seek.

Your premise, which you've repeated ad-nauseam, is that Australian women are the ugliest, most uncultured troglodytes on the planet, but Australian men - well, they are ultra-attractive alphas who could have Swedish nines lining up to meet them if only they realised that their own women were so ugly and primitive.

As others have pointed out many times, the situation is not as black-and-white as you are making it seem. Most men don't have the means or abilities to expatriate, especially to the countries you mention, where an Australian passport is a significant disadvantage. What you are advocating is simply not sustainable for most men.

Most men? You're talking about Australian men who've been conditioned in the hell-hole dungeon of Australian game. The last thing they would be willing to do when leaving their own country for something of considerable and opportunistic value would be to look for long term relationships (as evidenced by the poster earlier who mentioned his friend in Hamburg).

I didn't say Australian girls are the ugliest in the world -- in point in fact, I've actually repeated that British, NZ girls are uglier. What I'm repeating ad nauseum is that it is one of the most competitive places on earth to score attractive women. There are few places that match it in terms of difficulty.

Because of this conditioning, going to a place like Scandinavia would be significantly opportunistic, whereas for a guy who has lived in Russia for 10 years, would be going backwards.

That said -- I agree, most will not get out of Australia, most may play with the idea, some will do 2 years in London, but this is besides the point. I simply want them to quit lying to themselves about being playboys in Australia. While I'm not exactly advocating the mass exodus of Australian males out of the country (if anything I merely want them to stay so I don't see them here), it should be pointed out that being successful at game (i.e. getting an attractive new notch monthly) is significantly more difficult than expatriation in itself.. I'm also pointing out that there are several steps they can take to avoid being a cog work within the system, but it is difficult.

It's just sheer honesty.

There are also others, specifically Americans and Europeans who are on this forum considering coming to Australia on a Working Holiday or for a career change. It simply isn't fair to them to be advised by a male who is hamsterizing his reality about the possible successes he could have here.

Post: #234

I personally am uninterested as to whether Australian men are suitable matches in the long term. I think if one did expatriate to continental Europe or Russia that they're most definitely an outlier and different to the mould. And if they did spend significant time in such locations that they can adapt and change to cultural requirements.

Australian game and conditioning makes the men more socially intelligent and adaptable. They're able to mirror behaviors more effectively. Unlike Polish game where Polish men are extremely naive and have as much social intelligence as a potato.

With that said, it is completely subjective. An Australian male who lived in Paris for 3 years would be fine with sophisticated women throughout Europe.

Post: #235

Sydney, yes.

Melbourne, no way anyone who has spent much time in either will say Melbourne has better women.

Sydney has the highest ranked women, and on looks I'd put (as I have for 3 years here) Gold coast, Perth and arguably inner city Newcastle above Melbourne.

Melbourne has poor talent for its population size

Post: #236

Yeah I'd say it's because Sydney is more fashion and looks conscious, while Perth and Gold Coast have better sunny weather.

This talk of Australian men accepting crappy women reminds me of something my cousin says. He lives in SEA, is a baller and "sponsors" local beauty pageants. He used to ask me why Aussie men, who come to work / live in his city, would date and wife up such mediocre local SEA girls. The Aussie guys he talks about are tall, good looking and on royal income especially compared to the local guys. Yet they'd date girls who my cousin describes as "give her a tail, put her on a tree, and you can't tell her apart from a monkey"...

My explanation to him back then was something along the line of different races seeing beauty differently.

Last year I got him to come over to visit me for a bit. He finally saw the Aussie guys in their natural habitat and blurted out after a few days: "I know why Aussie guys date such mediocre girls in SEA. It's because although those girls aren't attractive, they're half the weight of the girls those guys can score here."

Post: #237

(08-25-2014 01:14 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  Yeah I'd say it's because Sydney is more fashion and looks conscious, while Perth and Gold Coast have better sunny weather.

This talk of Australian men accepting crappy women reminds me of something my cousin says. He lives in SEA, is a baller and "sponsors" local beauty pageants. He used to ask me why Aussie men, who come to work / live in his city, would date and wife up such mediocre local SEA girls. The Aussie guys he talks about are tall, good looking and on royal income especially compared to the local guys. Yet they'd date girls who my cousin describes as "give her a tail, put her on a tree, and you can't tell her apart from a monkey"...

My explanation to him back then was something along the line of different races seeing beauty differently.

Last year I got him to come over to visit me for a bit. He finally saw the Aussie guys in their natural habitat and blurted out after a few days: "I know why Aussie guys date such mediocre girls in SEA. It's because although those girls aren't attractive, they're half the weight of the girls those guys can score here."

It's precisely the reason why I ask guys here to give context on what they consider 'good' 'attractive' 'acceptable'. It seems to me that most Australian guys are content sleeping with 3-5 women a year who are 'average', despite being handsome + gamey, while claiming player status..

Australian men lack analytical skills to really question the reality they live in and simply accept the perpetual momentum they're in. It's why they are happy to go to casinos with their mates, after an unsuccessful night having spent hundreds of dollars piss drunk, and claim it an 'Amazing night' despite being rejected at every turn.

5 years later they've wasted years in the same city, same venues, completely aloof as to what's happened to their existence.

But the lack of 'self awareness' award goes to British guys who are perhaps the most chodey in the entire Anglosphere. They're pissheads, have abysmal standards when it comes to women, completely soil every single euro isle destination, and think highly of their own women despite living reasonably close to the rest of the EU. They're also feature-fucked which means they have less chance with Europeans in general.

The amount of times I've seen a pisshead oblivious drunk Brit who kissed a tranny in SEA is unbelievable. I'd need 3 hands to count the moments.

Post: #238

I've been to 18countries and grew up in Adelaide. Everything Toni says I agree with but I could never express it as well as he does.

I still remember going out the first night after returning from Europe/EE 2years ago. The girls guys would drool over I wasn't attracted to at all. But after time of being depressed, travel and more time passing, I've come to realise that although australian girls are usually annoying as fuck and lack in looks, I will have to take what I can get while I am stuck here in Aus.

I met an australian couple in vietnam. The guy was extremely good looking (no homo) and the girl was so fucken ugly and out of shape lol. It just confirms everything about aus men and aus women haha

Post: #239

The lack of mixing for UK population is untrue. Roman conquest, Anglo, Saxon and Jute invasions, Danish invasions, Norman conquest (French/Viking mix), all mixing with Briton and Celt populations.

They are still ugly though and I don't know why. For some reason outside London is something akin to The Road vs. House of Wax.

London is a money pit where a shithole bedroom in a high crime area will cost more than a nice shared place in Carlton or Melbourne CBD that doesn't suck money in train fare either.

If you're not balling out in West London it's a little more even : Melbourne will have infinitely better logistics, London better talent.

Yet the fact London is in Europe and Melbourne isn't plays a huge part in quality of life too.

Post: #240

(08-25-2014 04:47 AM)Que enspastic Wrote:  The lack of mixing for UK population is untrue. Roman conquest, Anglo, Saxon and Jute invasions, Danish invasions, Norman conquest (French/Viking mix), all mixing with Briton and Celt populations.

They are still ugly though and I don't know why. For some reason outside London is something akin to The Road vs. House of Wax.

While there was various conquests here and there, we have to be mindful of the fact that the genetic mixing was not on par with the continent.. all one has to do is read the history of Poland/Ukraine to get a brief detail as to the amount of shitfucks in the main land.

Southern England is considerably more attractive than those in the tip. Purely for the reasons you described.

If anything there is some considerably evidence to suggest that the Vikings had specifically stolen many of the attractive female specimen and put them in various parts of Scandinavia (icelandic redheads etc). They have done some studies on pre-Viking female skullfaces and found that they had a fairly exaggerated masculine look.

Interestingly enough the Viking's primary incentive for leaving their insular reality was to find Gold in alternative places as to secure social status with their (at the time) ugly women in a tough courting arena .. hence their skewed masculinity, as opposed to the more feminized placid Swedes of today.

Once they landed on foreign land they must have realised the difference in talent and married the local girls. While telling their viking bitches to fuck themselves.

There is also the argument that as per Paradise Bird Theory, that settled and peaceful civilisation would always result in having more competitive dating markets because there would be more males within the competitive arena (higher life expectancy). And because of this the females had more choice in selecting the more advanced alpha, skewing everything in the favour of female, incrementally over time.

If we look at Ukraine we have highly diverse ethnicities mixing within a sweet spot of human migration. We have continuous conflicts, poverties and famine.. setting the tone for evolution to equip the girls with the best possible aesthetics.

Post: #241

(08-25-2014 04:47 AM)Que enspastic Wrote:  The lack of mixing for UK population is untrue. Roman conquest, Anglo, Saxon and Jute invasions, Danish invasions, Norman conquest (French/Viking mix), all mixing with Briton and Celt populations.

They are still ugly though and I don't know why. For some reason outside London is something akin to The Road vs. House of Wax.

London is a money pit where a shithole bedroom in a high crime area will cost more than a nice shared place in Carlton or Melbourne CBD that doesn't suck money in train fare either.

If you're not balling out in West London it's a little more even : Melbourne will have infinitely better logistics, London better talent.

Yet the fact London is in Europe and Melbourne isn't plays a huge part in quality of life too.

London is a place which depends fairly heavily on your income level. There is no other place on earth filled with girls who earn 7 quid an hour barely able to afford life, continuously on the hunt for a more sophisticated well off attractive male (except maybe NY).

Unlike Australia, where the tax system and minimum wage, will ensure Stacey will never need a man to provide for her because she can quite easily work an easy job at Gloria Jeans coffee for 20 dollars an hour and live extremely comfortably while accepting gifts from her beta orbiter.

Bitches in London run a difficult life. If you're a white collar Banker you're definitely the master of her dominion. I've witnessed guys in Australia who make 300k and still have difficulty pulling girls. In London that would never fly.

London has a huge pleb market who try and game in Bricklane, shit cunt places in shoreditch, camden and dare I say it: Piccadilly with little or no success, because they're mostly filled with males.

More affluent locations like Mayfair, attract a different crowd, and while expensive, do have attractive women who are wanting to be pulled and much better ratios -- where as in Australia, similar places, have women who are mainly there for glamour shots. Mayfair is also a place where the English girl is extinct - when I was there I only saw Slavs, Spanish, and Italians.. Then there are places like Beach Blanket Babylon that usually has good ratios for 2-3 hrs.

At the end of the day, it's a 'gameable' location. It will reward you every now and then, and game is definitely more systematised and scientific there, unlike the Arbitrary world of Australia

Post: #242

I have IB friends who go out exclusively in Mayfair.

There's this one couple who is spending at least 1000GBP EACH per month on rent (probably more) with bills maybe another 400GBP to share. They live in a spacious three bedroom pad in Sloane Square and keep the third bedroom for friends who want to crash.

When they go out it's 150GBP per person for table service or 30GBP entry before vodkas. When they order takeaway pizza it's 20GBP per person.

With an average dude bringing home maybe 1500-1800GBP per month in income after tax, the Mayfair lifestyle is extremely unaffordable - for average dudes, hence why they don't have much option but Shoreditch/Camden.

It's a matter of survival for unskilled workers in London.

Anastasia, recently moved to London, working in Starbucks on 7GBP per hour is earning probably below 1000GBP per month assuming she's working 35 hours per work.

Her shithole bedroom in a flatshare in Zone 2/3 is maybe 500GBP incl bills (possibly more), her transport costs are maybe 125GBP per month (possibly more). She has less than 400GBP to play with for the whole month once rent and tranport are deducted - and that's before she even feeds herself.

When I was bumming around in Melbourne in between uni and full-time work, I was earning maybe 13500GBP in Australian money, spending 25% of that on rent, living a short walk to the CBD. Barely any entry fees to clubs (knew promoters), could walk home after a night out (no taxis), predrinks of course, saved enough for Asia holidays at the end of the year.

Life was way more manageable than Anastasia working at Starbucks in Hyde Park 35 hours a week - I was probably doing 10 fewer hours work per week, getting paid more, with lower costs on income than her. People who say Melbourne is expensive because Vintage Cellars has expensive slabs of Corona are retarded. You can switch drinks from beer to cheap wine in Melbourne if you have to, but you can't avoid extortionate rent and transport in London - there is no alternative but to earn more or leave.

Anastasia at Starbucks in Hyde Park and Stacey at Gloria Jeans on Elizabeth St, Melbourne have very different lifestyles - one is getting financially raped and will start going into debt if she works fewer than 25 hours a week, the other is cruising, comfortable, money isn't that big a deal.

One will start to place a high value on guys with financial means while the other is still relatively content - after all, most white collar Australians have practically identical, or at least, very closely comparable standards of living.

Post: #243

(08-25-2014 11:51 AM)Que enspastic Wrote:  I have IB friends who go out exclusively in Mayfair.

There's this one couple who is spending at least 1000GBP EACH per month on rent (probably more) with bills maybe another 400GBP to share. They live in a spacious three bedroom pad in Sloane Square and keep the third bedroom for friends who want to crash.

When they go out it's 150GBP per person for table service or 30GBP entry before vodkas. When they order takeaway pizza it's 20GBP per person.

With an average dude bringing home maybe 1500-1800GBP per month in income after tax, the Mayfair lifestyle is extremely unaffordable - for average dudes, hence why they don't have much option but Shoreditch/Camden.

It's a matter of survival for unskilled workers in London.

Anastasia, recently moved to London, working in Starbucks on 7GBP per hour is earning probably below 1000GBP per month assuming she's working 35 hours per work.

Her shithole bedroom in a flatshare in Zone 2/3 is maybe 500GBP incl bills (possibly more), her transport costs are maybe 125GBP per month (possibly more). She has less than 400GBP to play with for the whole month once rent and tranport are deducted - and that's before she even feeds herself.

When I was bumming around in Melbourne in between uni and full-time work, I was earning maybe 13500GBP in Australian money, spending 25% of that on rent, living a short walk to the CBD. Barely any entry fees to clubs (knew promoters), could walk home after a night out (no taxis), predrinks of course, saved enough for Asia holidays at the end of the year.

Life was way more manageable than Anastasia working at Starbucks in Hyde Park 35 hours a week - I was probably doing 10 fewer hours work per week, getting paid more, with lower costs on income than her. People who say Melbourne is expensive because Vintage Cellars has expensive slabs of Corona are retarded. You can switch drinks from beer to cheap wine in Melbourne if you have to, but you can't avoid extortionate rent and transport in London - there is no alternative but to earn more or leave.

Anastasia at Starbucks in Hyde Park and Stacey at Gloria Jeans on Elizabeth St, Melbourne have very different lifestyles - one is getting financially raped and will start going into debt if she works fewer than 25 hours a week, the other is cruising, comfortable, money isn't that big a deal.

One will start to place a high value on guys with financial means while the other is still relatively content - after all, most white collar Australians have practically identical, or at least, very closely comparable standards of living.

Mate, I had first hand witness of the sponsorship game that goes on in London. It's sugar daddy central.

I went to a penthouse party in shoreditch (The house was fucking huge). It was littered with Lithuanian girls all on quasi-sponsorships.
I also knew one Romanian bird who was clearly sponsored. Some cities are extremely good only if your'e successful...places like London which has a huge pleb population of italian and spanish guys who earn 7 pounds an hour, turn into huge sausagefests because of density in certain social classes.

In many ways, the redneck nature of Australia puts a traddie at equal game to a guy who earns 250k.

Even in pleb places in London, I had much more success than I ever did in Australia.

You should also check out the other place I mentioned earlier.

PS) How did you find Berlin? Not so easy, correct?

Post: #244

I may have missed a couple of days of the thread, but just to jump in on the last couple of London posts: it can be ball breakingly expensive if you're going the bottle service route to access upper tier girls. However, if you can ingratiate yourself to the public school (ie, private schools - Brits use silly terminology) set you can access quality women on the relative cheap at parties. Sloane rangers tend to be on the upper end of the looks scale, as well as being extremely well educated. The best way to get into this is obviously through friends of friends or coworkers, however as a total outsider if you've any interest in rugby I'd highly recommend using it as a 'gateway' into that world.

Post: #245

London maybe sugar daddy central but it is also whore central, a lot of those Slav chicks are flown in to fill the void. I had a friend who lived in west London, more than once he was approached by a hungarian gal offering services on the street.

Que Enspactic assessment is spot on, although I will say those girls are lucky if they work at Starbucks and lucky if they work only 35 hrs.

Using Investment Bankers as an example hardly gives you a true picture of how tough London can be living wise, the good thing about it is that there are girls to be had. Places like Australia and Canada make girls comfortable with all their needs being met, it's funny you guys talk about Aussies having to work in mining. The situation is the same in Canada, see Scotians oil sands thread.

Post: #246

Australian women are some of the worse I've ever meet, not only because of their sub par looks (hello british/irish genetics and poor diet) but also because of their horrible attitudes that would make even american women appear to be "sweet". Yes.. Anglo new world countries seem to fill the basic needs of the women , offering stability and overprotecting them, which leads to create a princess complex.

Post: #247

Is this all why Crocodile Dundee chose to live out in the bush?

Dude goes after the first American chick he sees says it all.

Bad news bears.

Post: #248

(08-25-2014 04:47 AM)Que enspastic Wrote:  The lack of mixing for UK population is untrue. Roman conquest, Anglo, Saxon and Jute invasions, Danish invasions, Norman conquest (French/Viking mix), all mixing with Briton and Celt populations.

The mixing has been highly exaggerated by the historians who like to romanticize anything they can, the anglo saxon rule, the roman occupation, the norman conquest, anything possible.

The truth is the big majority of british ancestry is still the same than it used to be 10.000 years ago before any kind of modern "invasion" took place, the proto-celts or well known as brythonic populations who are not really celtic or germanic in origin but Older European populations that inhabitated the Atlantic seaboard, and closely related to the older bretons and Spanish BAsques.

Thats why the hot blonde (tall and naturally blond not with help from hairdressers and high heels) is uncommon among british women, compared to the real germanic countries whose inhabitants are descendants of germanic tribes such as Scandinavian nations, The Netherlands or Germany. I was amazed by how darkfeatured (hair and eyes) the britons were the first time I Visited. Before I just assumed they looked like regular northern europeans, Instead I encountered shorter, fatter, pale (germanic women have usually nice rosier complexion/undertone despite having very light skin) women with darker or fake blond hair and hideous facial features.

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(08-25-2014 06:01 PM)TonyManero Wrote:  

(08-25-2014 04:47 AM)Que enspastic Wrote:  The lack of mixing for UK population is untrue. Roman conquest, Anglo, Saxon and Jute invasions, Danish invasions, Norman conquest (French/Viking mix), all mixing with Briton and Celt populations.

The mixing has been highly exaggerated by the historians who like to romanticize anything they can, the anglo saxon rule, the roman occupation, the norman conquest, anything possible.

The truth is the big majority of british ancestry is still the same than it used to be 10.000 years ago before any kind of modern "invasion" took place, the proto-celts or well known as brythonic populations who are not really celtic or germanic in origin but Older European populations that inhabitated the Atlantic seaboard, and closely related to the older bretons and Spanish BAsques.

Thats why the hot blonde (tall and naturally blond not with help from hairdressers and high heels) is uncommon among british women, compared to the real germanic countries whose inhabitants are descendants of germanic tribes such as Scandinavian nations, The Netherlands or Germany. I was amazed by how darkfeatured (hair and eyes) the britons were the first time I Visited. Before I just assumed they looked like regular northern europeans, Instead I encountered shorter, fatter, pale (germanic women have usually nice rosier complexion/undertone despite having very light skin) women with darker or fake blond hair and hideous facial features.

True. Genetic research gives the lie to many common ideas of peoples' origins. For example, the term "Celt" is meaningless in terms of DNA, only relevant as a language family.

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(08-25-2014 06:18 PM)RawGod Wrote:  

(08-25-2014 06:01 PM)TonyManero Wrote:  

(08-25-2014 04:47 AM)Que enspastic Wrote:  The lack of mixing for UK population is untrue. Roman conquest, Anglo, Saxon and Jute invasions, Danish invasions, Norman conquest (French/Viking mix), all mixing with Briton and Celt populations.

The mixing has been highly exaggerated by the historians who like to romanticize anything they can, the anglo saxon rule, the roman occupation, the norman conquest, anything possible.

The truth is the big majority of british ancestry is still the same than it used to be 10.000 years ago before any kind of modern "invasion" took place, the proto-celts or well known as brythonic populations who are not really celtic or germanic in origin but Older European populations that inhabitated the Atlantic seaboard, and closely related to the older bretons and Spanish BAsques.

Thats why the hot blonde (tall and naturally blond not with help from hairdressers and high heels) is uncommon among british women, compared to the real germanic countries whose inhabitants are descendants of germanic tribes such as Scandinavian nations, The Netherlands or Germany. I was amazed by how darkfeatured (hair and eyes) the britons were the first time I Visited. Before I just assumed they looked like regular northern europeans, Instead I encountered shorter, fatter, pale (germanic women have usually nice rosier complexion/undertone despite having very light skin) women with darker or fake blond hair and hideous facial features.

True. Genetic research gives the lie to many common ideas of peoples' origins. For example, the term "Celt" is meaningless in terms of DNA, only relevant as a language family.

I noticed It quickly, My type of woman is tall, long legged, naturally blonde, blue/green eyes, rosy skinned, normal built or slim, a bit chubby doesnt hurt either. I see more german type of looks among Czech or Polish and Western slavs in general than I saw in England or Australia. LOL at the Brits being anglo saxons.

Celt is about a group of people who spread in europe, galatians in turkey were celtic at some time, so were the gauls in france, it doesnt mean they were directly related.