Post: #201

Damn you toni and your unrelenting "Australian girls are ugly" posts.

It's getting to my head and they are appearing even more masculine and uglier to me than previously.

My plan to become location independent is rolling forward fast though.

Post: #202

(08-24-2014 08:45 AM)Deluge Wrote:  Australia's obesity levels are now on par with the United States. Control for race, and white Australians have to have much higher obesity rate then white Americans, since Australia has infinitely less Blacks and Hispanics (who are fatter) and more Whites and Asians (who are thinner).

But if you consider that "75 - 80% of middle aged men are overweight" (quoted from the article) and a large percentage of younger dudes are overweight due to working out, AND take out kiwis, arabs, abos and middle aged women who you wouldn't bang anyway, there really isn't any cause for concern in the demographic that matters.

Post: #203

(08-24-2014 08:02 PM)Vroom Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 08:45 AM)Deluge Wrote:  Australia's obesity levels are now on par with the United States. Control for race, and white Australians have to have much higher obesity rate then white Americans, since Australia has infinitely less Blacks and Hispanics (who are fatter) and more Whites and Asians (who are thinner).

But if you consider that "75 - 80% of middle aged men are overweight" (quoted from the article) and a large percentage of younger dudes are overweight due to working out, AND take out kiwis, arabs, abos and middle aged women who you wouldn't bang anyway, there really isn't any cause for concern in the demographic that matters.

Nonsense. I see girls every day who are still attractive but have flabby arms, the start of a pot belly, are just a bit thick, etc. They are not even technically overweight would all be a point higher if they were not carrying that fat. And their sisters in Asia and most of Europe lack that extra flab and gain in comparison.

Post: #204

(08-24-2014 08:02 PM)Vroom Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 08:45 AM)Deluge Wrote:  Australia's obesity levels are now on par with the United States. Control for race, and white Australians have to have much higher obesity rate then white Americans, since Australia has infinitely less Blacks and Hispanics (who are fatter) and more Whites and Asians (who are thinner).

But if you consider that "75 - 80% of middle aged men are overweight" (quoted from the article) and a large percentage of younger dudes are overweight due to working out, AND take out kiwis, arabs, abos and middle aged women who you wouldn't bang anyway, there really isn't any cause for concern in the demographic that matters.

I recently flew from Wellington -> Melbourne -> Dubai -> Berlin then to Eastern Europe. The fat across all destinations varied.

I can tell you that obesity does matter.
In NZ there is a significant difference to Australia -- most girls in their 20s sport double chins. It was by far the biggest cesspool for 1st world talent I've ever been to. But the competition in Australia is far more exaggerated.

Anyone who hasn't been outside Australia doesn't know what a slim body looks like. Most girls in Australia have particularly large frames. So even if they're into fitness and play sports, they have particularly broad shoulders, defined jawlines and thunder-thighs. Many easily weigh above 60kgs.

Even though in many cases, European women can be taller, they're petite bodied and small framed.

There's also a significant population, about 20% of young girls in Australia who are obviously hiding the fat under layers of elaborate dresses made by fucking SportsGirl. These bitches know who they are. They wear those quasi-pregger costume to deflect the obvious fat.

Very few Australian guys are obese at the relevant age (18-35).
The same can't be said for Australian girls -- about 20%-30% are at least semi-grenades due to their weight.

Post: #205

And I see girls every day who don't have flabby arms or a pot belly. What you choose to dwell on just depends whether you're a glass half full or empty kind of guy. And since it's "cool" to cringe at anything australian, we look at the rest of the world through rose-tinted spectacles.

European girls dress and present themselves better, but their actual physical beauty is no better. And SE asians might cook you a good meal, but their faces are busted.

Post: #206

(08-24-2014 08:34 PM)Vroom Wrote:  And I see girls every day who don't have flabby arms or a pot belly. What you choose to dwell on just depends whether you're a glass half full or empty kind of guy. And since it's "cool" to cringe at anything australian, we look at the rest of the world through rose-tinted spectacles.

European girls dress and present themselves better, but their actual physical beauty is no better. And SE asians might cook you a good meal, but their faces are busted.

Post: #207

Fine - WESTERN european girls dress and present themselves better, but their actual physical beauty is no better.

Post: #208

(08-24-2014 08:43 PM)Vroom Wrote:  Fine - WESTERN european girls dress and present themselves better, but their actual physical beauty is no better.

Still incorrect.

Post: #209

Must be that I just don't have the experience or ability to know what I find attractive.

I'm sure you'll tell me though.

Post: #210

Why do Australian guys hamsterize their reality? Srsly.

Even if you don't focus on the fatties, and just approach the slim girls, the Slim girls will be affected by the sheer fact that they will get viciously approached by more men. They will effectively become precious commodities after more fatties enter the dating pool.

I can't count the number of times some 50 year old aussie told me how much easier it was when they were 21.

Shitty variables within the dating economics will ultimately affect the reality you live in.

Post: #211

(08-24-2014 08:47 PM)Vroom Wrote:  Must be that I just don't have the experience or ability to know what I find attractive.

I'm sure you'll tell me though.

Pretty much. If you want a simple objective answer: Anglo saxons don't have a significant history of genetic mixing unlike continentals, resulting in munted female appearance.

Since you're hamsterizing yourself, you're only filtering out melb/syd's attractive female population which are all slovak/continental-european to begin with.

Not only that, but Australian girls go to extravagant lengths to get fake tans, wear short dresses and appear sexy. Whereas, for example, German girls wear jeans minimal makeup and rarely use hair extension.

The disparity in appearance isn't so evident to someone who has positive filters like yourself.

Post: #212

(08-24-2014 08:54 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  Why do Australian guys hamsterize their reality? Srsly.

Well I'm not australian, but you obviously are. I've found that dudes who live a "sexless existence" hamsterize that away by saying that aussie girls are ugly moles who they wouldn't want to fuck anyway.

Shitty attitudes - perhaps
Ugly - Nope.

Post: #213

Could be a few reasons why you're trying to be positive about the situation you're in. But I think most guys mental masturbate about Australia and lie to themselves about their chances and their own self-confidence because they've made an emotional investment in their lifestyle and try to make a Utopia out of a place they've been seduced by for its various opportunities.

I'd say Australian women are more attractive than the girls outside of London in the UK. They're also more attractive than those in NZ. But beyond that they're no where near on par with Western Europe. You've been smoking too much mate =).

Post: #214

I should reiterate that I'm in Perth, and most (all?) people here have based their impressions of australian women on Sydney/melbourne, or some aussie chick they met at a backpackers hostel.

There's a lot more people of dutch stock, from both europe and south africa, here than there is in the east.

Post: #215

(08-24-2014 08:23 PM)RawGod Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 08:02 PM)Vroom Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 08:45 AM)Deluge Wrote:  Australia's obesity levels are now on par with the United States. Control for race, and white Australians have to have much higher obesity rate then white Americans, since Australia has infinitely less Blacks and Hispanics (who are fatter) and more Whites and Asians (who are thinner).

But if you consider that "75 - 80% of middle aged men are overweight" (quoted from the article) and a large percentage of younger dudes are overweight due to working out, AND take out kiwis, arabs, abos and middle aged women who you wouldn't bang anyway, there really isn't any cause for concern in the demographic that matters.

Nonsense. I see girls every day who are still attractive but have flabby arms, the start of a pot belly, are just a bit thick, etc. They are not even technically overweight would all be a point higher if they were not carrying that fat. And their sisters in Asia and most of Europe lack that extra flab and gain in comparison.

(08-24-2014 08:34 PM)Vroom Wrote:  European girls dress and present themselves better, but their actual physical beauty is no better. And SE asians might cook you a good meal, but their faces are busted.

I want a hit of whatever Vroom is smoking. With all the Euro tourists you don't even need to leave Perth to see for yourself how wrong this is. Please explain to me why all the daygamers I know specifically look for European backpackers and Asian international students.

There's so much going wrong with this thread on so many levels, I think this should be locked.

Post: #216

(08-24-2014 09:15 PM)Vroom Wrote:  I should reiterate that I'm in Perth, and most (all?) people here have based their impressions of australian women on Sydney/melbourne, or some aussie chick they met at a backpackers hostel.

There's a lot more people of dutch stock, from both europe and south africa, here than there is in the east.

I was in Perth a month or two ago. It's shit.

Post: #217

I know it's shit, but the women aren't ugly.

Post: #218

(08-24-2014 09:26 PM)Vroom Wrote:  I know it's shit, but the women aren't ugly.

Uglier than Melbourne and Sydney. My sister's a plastic surgeon in Perth, I think I have some significant insight to the aesthetic quality of the females there.

Post: #219

I live here, so I think I've got a better insight.

Post: #220

I visit Perth every 1-2 years, have friends and some family there. I used to think the girls there were better than Melbourne: warmer, slimmer etc. Now every time I visit, they seem to get fatter and drunker.

Quote:I want a hit of whatever Vroom is smoking. With all the Euro tourists you don't even need to leave Perth to see for yourself how wrong this is. Please explain to me why all the daygamers I know specifically look for European backpackers and Asian international students.

Personally, I don't specifically look for Europeans or Asian internationals. For all I know when I approach, they are Aussies. I simply approach girls who look pleasant and are slim. They ALL turn out to be foreign.

I went to a big party the other night with almost 200 people, most are in the 18-30 age group. Thanks to toni here, I kept thinking how masculine and fat the girls were lol. Found just one slim pleasant looking brunette, and... she turned out to be Romanian. Plus I didn't need to be some kind of clown to hold her attention. One topic we talked about (and she was even more passionate about it than me) was Eastern philosophy.

A couple more years and I'm outta here...

Post: #221

(08-24-2014 09:33 PM)Vroom Wrote:  I live here, so I think I've got a better insight.

I've spent significant time there. Tell me where the beautiful women are Vroom? Because Perth is unanimously known as the ass-end of Australia for female talent, it only places higher to Adelaide, Tasmania and NT.

If you come from Europe and you moved to Perth for its obvious mining economy then you're probably being blind sighted by the fact that Australian women wear a lot of makeup/fake hair extensions/fake tans at an atrocious rate than their Euro counterparts.

At most you can't see the obvious differences from a distance, but if you've been intimate with enough western european girls and australian girls you can see the defects in anglo-girls blotchy/pomegranate skin, lack of symmetry in features etc etc.

Many of my German friends who came here were at first simply amazed at the women in the nightclubs because of the ridiculous porno dresses they wear in the nightclubs - but after 3 months of no sex, and after being up close and personal, they begin to see the obvious differences.

Post: #222

(08-24-2014 09:44 PM)tonipepperoni Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 09:33 PM)Vroom Wrote:  I live here, so I think I've got a better insight.

I've spent significant time there. Tell me where the beautiful women are Vroom? Because Perth is unanimously known as the ass-end of Australia for female talent, it only places higher to Adelaide, Tasmania and NT.

If you come from Europe and you moved to Perth for its obvious mining economy then you're probably being blind sighted by the fact that Australian women wear a lot of makeup/fake hair extensions/fake tans at an atrocious rate than their Euro counterparts.

At most you can't see the obvious differences from a distance, but if you've been intimate with enough western european girls and australian girls you can see the defects in anglo-girls blotchy/pomegranate skin, lack of symmetry in features etc etc.

Many of my German friends who came here were at first simply amazed at the women in the nightclubs because of the ridiculous porno dresses they wear in the nightclubs - but after 3 months of no sex, and after being up close and personal, they begin to see the obvious differences.

Source?

Post: #223

Toni, I can only speak for Melbourne, but I would say the black/white view that you are presenting is not accurate for every man. Comparing women from disparate continents is all well and good, but the other side that must be considered is that men are not universal either. The typical Australian male personality is a very poor match for the Russian soul, as confirmed by myself and also by Russian women who have lived and studied in Australia. I myself found Australian men of similar backgrounds (banking, law) difficult to connect with, compared to the Russians and Armenians who I've grown most similar to. Even Italian and Spanish men have trouble adapting to the Orthodox mindset. In the world of a beta, where short-term relationships are not a sustainable option (if an option at all), those factors matter.

Post: #224

(08-24-2014 09:43 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  I visit Perth every 1-2 years, have friends and some family there. I used to think the girls there were better than Melbourne: warmer, slimmer etc. Now every time I visit, they seem to get fatter and drunker.

Quote:I want a hit of whatever Vroom is smoking. With all the Euro tourists you don't even need to leave Perth to see for yourself how wrong this is. Please explain to me why all the daygamers I know specifically look for European backpackers and Asian international students.

Personally, I don't specifically look for Europeans or Asian internationals. For all I know when I approach, they are Aussies. I simply approach girls who look pleasant and are slim. They ALL turn out to be foreign.

I went to a big party the other night with almost 200 people, most are in the 18-30 age group. Thanks to toni here, I kept thinking how masculine and fat the girls were lol. Found just one slim pleasant looking brunette, and... she turned out to be Romanian. Plus I didn't need to be some kind of clown to hold her attention. One topic we talked about (and she was even more passionate about it than me) was Eastern philosophy.

A couple more years and I'm outta here...

The funniest thing I used to worship the ground that Scandinavian girls used to walk on in Australia. I really liked them.

But after spending significant time in Europe now, I really look back at those moments and realise I was such a duck cunt. Because the same girl who I thought was attractive ended up being below-par in her own country.

Australia is a mindfuck in it's own right. A 5/10 Scandinavian is a 8/10 in Australia. She knows her princess status.

Post: #225

Everyone I know who has moved from Melbourne or Sydney to Perth has told me Perth girls are hotter.