(10-14-2017 08:57 PM)Oz. Wrote:  What would you guys suggest to maximize recovery?

As most of you know I have been olympic lifting for a while and I have gotten fairly used to the training after a couple of years. Recently there was a small opening at nights on my schedule so I started doing some bjj.

Now when I do one or the other there isn't much of a problem. When I do both, however, the next day I feel like I got hit by car. My diet is pretty clean, any advice?

Wondering this too. Did a leg workout today and doing a push workout tomorrow. I've found that the DOMS for my quads/hamstrings doesn't kick in until 24 hours after, the rest of my body goes through the soreness process a lot more quickly. I'm expecting to have a hell of a time moving around Monday morning.

Sleep, eat more protein, ice, stretch a lot and foam rolling. If you want to drop some money get a deep tissue massage once a week the day after legs. Other than that there's not more you can do. Eventually your body will adjust and you won't get as much soreness.

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Started lifting while I was a twig at 130 lbs 6' in height.
Bulked until 180 and now cut down to 165. Still have some leftover fat around my lower abdomen but apart from that I'm pretty lean, measured at 13%.

I noticed my game and looks were way worse when I was at 180. I wasn't huge anyway so the extra 15lbs were just unnecessary bloat around my face. Ideally I want to stay lean and still add some bulk and strength so I'm looking into recomp and lean bulk atm. I noticed girls like the shredded look way more than the bloated perma bulker. Unless you are super huge with a big frame you don't look good at 15+ BF%.

Got any advice for me ?

Get bigger but not fatter.

Had a great accomplishment today.

I couldn't close the pec deck all the way (it's the kind with the pads you put your elbows on) and I couldn't close it all the way without hitting the sides of my pecs, even with the seat all the way back.

That's growth baby. Time to get a new gym.

Hit a new PB on the high bar squat at 80kg today. Managed three reps, my balance was off on the first two. I'm hoping to get at least three good reps at 100kg by the end of the year.

Back day is tomorrow, and I'm seeing how much I can Deadlift.

Managed 105kg/231lbs on the Deadlift today. I'm happy enough with that for now, but I spent a while building up to it, and I think I allowed it to eat into the rest of my back workout. I ended up skipping the cable and Yates rows I normally do.

My shoulder and wrist have been in pain for 3 months now, definitely worried there is something structurally wrong. I've been slowing trying to get back into gym routines and this pain keeps slowing me down. I chalked it up to getting older and taking longer to heal but something isn't normal for sure. Big time pain in the ass in communist Canada to try and get somebody to look at it.

(10-21-2017 04:27 PM)kosko Wrote:  My shoulder and wrist have been in pain for 3 months now, definitely worried there is something structurally wrong. I've been slowing trying to get back into gym routines and this pain keeps slowing me down. I chalked it up to getting older and taking longer to heal but something isn't normal for sure. Big time pain in the ass in communist Canada to try and get somebody to look at it.

I've been having some elbow problems as well. I took a few months off from lifting and have been rubbing out the scar tissue. Seems to have worked. Been slowly getting back into everything. Really don't want to have Tommy John.

If I was you, take a month off. Don't aggravate the injury any more. Continue your normal routine, just without the gym. Keep your diet clean and stay disciplined. You will be a little lethargic but two weeks will get you back up to speed.

Kosko,

Have you tried collagen. It was recommended here, I got some and took it everyday. Feel much better, shoulder and elbows used to give me trouble, feel great.

Great Lakes Collagen. Im mid-30's and I feel I needed this boost in joint health.

Really considering roids right now, kinda stuck with my progress right now and could use a boost. I'm not close to my genetic limit yet but I feel like I could benefit from a cycle.
Anybody here pinning themself?

Yeah.

I use gear, it works. You can probably go a good ways further without it. Either way it's a big decision and is not to be taken lightly.

PM me if you wanna talk training and gear and I'd be happy to talk you out of it and into a more productive way of training before you decide to hop down the rabbit hole.

(10-22-2017 07:24 PM)Steelex Wrote:  Yeah.

I use gear, it works. You can probably go a good ways further without it. Either way it's a big decision and is not to be taken lightly.

PM me if you wanna talk training and gear and I'd be happy to talk you out of it and into a more productive way of training before you decide to hop down the rabbit hole.

Thanks brother, I'll hit you up once I have done my chores for the day, still gotta strike some stuff off the to do list

Took a road trip to support a handful of friends/gym bros of mine at a strongman event and it really got me motivated.

Our gym brought it hard. Two 1st place finishes and a 2nd place finish out of our 5 competitors. All 3 qualified for nationals.

Anybody get hair loss or shedding from creatine?

No.

Took my deadlift PB to 110kg/242lbs, but I urgently need to start including core work in my programme to go any heavier safely.

(10-17-2017 05:26 PM)little wing Wrote:  Started lifting while I was a twig at 130 lbs 6' in height.
Bulked until 180 and now cut down to 165. Still have some leftover fat around my lower abdomen but apart from that I'm pretty lean, measured at 13%.

I noticed my game and looks were way worse when I was at 180. I wasn't huge anyway so the extra 15lbs were just unnecessary bloat around my face. Ideally I want to stay lean and still add some bulk and strength so I'm looking into recomp and lean bulk atm. I noticed girls like the shredded look way more than the bloated perma bulker. Unless you are super huge with a big frame you don't look good at 15+ BF%.

Got any advice for me ?

how old were you when you were 130 lbs?

I've been focusing on improving my shoulders for quite some time now. I neglected them for years and it led to some pretty weak shoulders that would fatigue too quickly.

I used to flat out suck at incline bench because of my weak shoulders but in the past few months I have been doing that as my main chest exercise instead of flat bench and it is really starting to pay off. I also supplement this with a variety of shoulder exercises.

My favorite is shoulder "dislocations" I don't use a weight like this guy in the video:




I used to get all kinds of weird shoulder pain but now it's gone and I can incline bench way more than I used to. Slowly working my way up to being able to rep out the 100lb DBs in my gym.

I have also focused heavily on hanging style ab exercises which has flattened things out considerably.

Usually I run supersets because I don't like to spend too much time in the gym. I have gotten really efficient with my workouts to say the least.

It really pays to focus on your weak points.

(10-24-2017 06:00 PM)Araveug Wrote:  

(10-17-2017 05:26 PM)little wing Wrote:  Started lifting while I was a twig at 130 lbs 6' in height.
Bulked until 180 and now cut down to 165. Still have some leftover fat around my lower abdomen but apart from that I'm pretty lean, measured at 13%.

I noticed my game and looks were way worse when I was at 180. I wasn't huge anyway so the extra 15lbs were just unnecessary bloat around my face. Ideally I want to stay lean and still add some bulk and strength so I'm looking into recomp and lean bulk atm. I noticed girls like the shredded look way more than the bloated perma bulker. Unless you are super huge with a big frame you don't look good at 15+ BF%.

Got any advice for me ?

how old were you when you were 130 lbs?

16-17. Why?

So Muscle Barbie is apparently totally against steroids and claims to have never used anything except off the shelf supplements.

What is the psychology behind lying about steroid use? I know guys that have told me they are on gear but then publicly try to push this narrative of being clean on social media and to others. I think it goes beyond any legality issue.

I think a lot of it has to do with making money off of supplements.

Money. You can lose your supplement advertising contract for publicly admitting to steroid use.

I don't keep it a secret from anyone if they ask I tell.