Post: #101

Holy shit. I knew the government would be footing most of this bill, which is why I find it offensive that these men continue to act the way they do, but I had no idea that the bill was possibly that much. Not to mention the drug companies love these guys, every new fuck they infect with HIV is money in the bank for them.

Post: #102

(07-16-2014 02:20 AM)demolition Wrote:  Holy shit. I knew the government would be footing most of this bill, which is why I find it offensive that these men continue to act the way they do, but I had no idea that the bill was possibly that much. Not to mention the drug companies love these guys, every new fuck they infect with HIV is money in the bank for them.

That's for my country, at 22 million people. The USA has 317 million, so the gay population would be much higher.

It's $1500 US per month, and most health insurers cover it. If you don't you can apply for government co-pay programmes.

So, I was curious about how Truvada would be affected by Obamacare, and quickly found some testimonials:

Quote:I’m a 47-year-old gay man who is HIV negative but I had recently found myself engaging in riskier behavior.

Note 'found myself' - classic female weasel language for avoiding responsibility for one's actions. What he means is "I deliberately decided to engage in riskier behaviour."

Quote:After all these years, condom-fatigue had set in and with AIDS becoming a manageable disease, the fear that once kept me from indulging in barrier-free sex has passed.

Don’t get me wrong; I was and am not seeking to become positive. I just was finding myself in a position where the idea of using condoms forever was no longer an option for me. In other words, I’m a perfect candidate for a Truvada PrEP regimen.

Which brings me to the view from my Obamacare...

SNIP

... I made an appointment with my doctor to see about starting a PrEP regimen. My doctor was immediately open to it. I had the required blood tests and my doctor called in the prescription. When I went to pick it up, I was expecting the worst. I wasn’t sure if my new Obamacre would cover it but If I had to pay the full $1,700 monthly cost I would. It was just too important to me. When I got to the counter, I discovered that my monthly cost for Truvada is $15

Right now the view from my Obamacare is fantastic, and as of last week I’m on the pill.

So the public funds this irresponsible twit to rawdog because he finds condoms such. a. drag.

Another gay twit speaks:

Quote:I just took my first dose of Truvada for PrEP. There are a lot of reasons I’d been skeptical of it in the past, and my HIV risk these days is not nearly what it was when I was, say, 23. But I’m still single and gay and sexually active. I use condoms, but on those occasions where it doesn’t happen for whatever reason, I can quit torturing myself for the next two weeks worrying. I do not expect it to change my behavior (although time will tell), but it will liberate me from these cycles of excruciating worry.

So thank you. Bonus: It is costing me precisely $0.

Now think about this:

Quote:As reported in the The New York Times, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is pushing for expanded use of Truvada as a prophylactic to prevent new HIV cases. To date, it has been primarily used to treat people who have already contracted HIV. If this recommendation is adopted, the number of prescriptions written for Truvada could increase from less than 10,000 per year to 500,000 per year

My advice: move to Russia.

Post: #103

This doesn't surprise me.

Back in my consulting days, I was on a contract that had me working with a rather flamboyant man. Nice enough guy but not someone I would be friends with.

A group of us would go out periodically for some drinks after work and he was one of the group. After a few drinks, he really laid it out there talking about how crazy gay guys get.

I was a little taken back because it really never dawned on me the level of debauchery they guys could take things.

We talked about it and it mad sense after some time. The keys to sex have always been women. At least in our world. Men typically are ready to go once we get the green light.

Take out the women aspect and all you have is a bunch of guys ready to go.

Post: #104

(07-16-2014 02:59 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  This doesn't surprise me.

Back in my consulting days, I was on a contract that had me working with a rather flamboyant man. Nice enough guy but not someone I would be friends with.

A group of us would go out periodically for some drinks after work and he was one of the group. After a few drinks, he really laid it out there talking about how crazy gay guys get.

I was a little taken back because it really never dawned on me the level of debauchery they guys could take things.

We talked about it and it mad sense after some time. The keys to sex have always been women. At least in our world. Men typically are ready to go once we get the green light.

Take out the women aspect and all you have is a bunch of guys ready to go.

I'm curious about how the lesbo-hag community compares.

Post: #105

(07-16-2014 05:02 AM)Suits Wrote:  I'm curious about how the lesbo-hag community compares.

Here you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_bed_death

Apparently, not even women can satisfy women.

Post: #106

(07-16-2014 02:49 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  It's $1500 US per month, and most health insurers cover it.

And that's *only* for Truvada. It doesn't include the cost of other anti-retrovirals, antibiotics (Sporanox, Diflucan, Flagyl, etc. are not cheap!), doctors, or hospital beds.

Post: #107

The New Yorker article Bacchus linked really is disgusting. Some more quotes from it with my comments after:

Quote:For some men, Truvada’s new use seems just as revolutionary for sex as it is for medicine. “I’m not scared of sex for the first time in my life, ever. That’s been an adrenaline rush,” says Damon L. Jacobs, 43, a therapist who has chronicled his own experience with the drug on Facebook so enthusiastically that some assume Gilead, the drug’s manufacturer, must be paying him. (It’s not, say both he and Gilead.)

“I stayed the night with a guy I knew, whom I believe to be HIV-negative,” he tells me. “We passed out, too drunk to fuck.” In the morning, they tried again, without a condom. “He was getting close to coming,” Jacobs relates, “and he said, ‘Do you want me to pull out?’ and I said, ‘No.’ I thought, I want this experience. I deserve this.”

This man is a 43 year old professional (a therapist, no less) and his sexual behaviors are those of an out of control, horny 16 year old in the backseat of dad's car. In a nutshell, this characterizes the mentality of homosexuals in general. They are not like the average heterosexual, only with an alternative "sexual orientation". They are essentially like the most depraved and horny heterosexuals all of the time. More than anything else, they are sex perverts.

Quote:“It’s taken away the taboo of barebacking being a naughty thing,” says Nathan. But, he adds, “now that I’m on it, I’m buying condoms. I don’t want to be one of the guys who’s like, ‘I’m on PrEP, so come over and find me blindfolded and fuck me bareback.’ ”

Well, of course you wouldn't want to be one of those guys, a type of outrageously promiscuous sex pervert that is apparently so common every homosexual knows at least one.

Quote: Sarit Golub, a Hunter College psychology professor, is leading a study at Callen-Lorde that indicates that half of gay men think of HIV all or most of the time during sex. “That, to me, is a psychological tragedy,” she says.

God forbid homosexuals actually feel bad about their debaucherous lifestyles. This is the 21st century, we can't have any bad feels going on!

Quote:When Adam and I met up, he’d taken his first dose of Truvada the day before. He felt fatigued, but he’d also underslept, so he wasn’t sure it was the drug. The night before, he’d invited over a regular hookup who has told him he’s HIV-­negative. “I had wanted him to cum in my mouth,” Adam says, “but I knew that the PrEP doesn’t take full effect for seven days.”

Note the total lack of shame or propriety. "I had wanted him to cum in my mouth," he says, like it's the most normal thing in the world, with the same ease a normal man might say, "I had wanted to watch the game at the bar instead of at home." This is not normal and healthy sexuality.

Quote:But some HIV activists feel that Gilead is quietly funding a surge in HIV-negative takers of Truvada—whose list price is about $1,300 a month—while not having to take flak from PrEP opponents for implicitly promoting condomless sex. “If they came out advertising it, they would’ve been attacked,” says Sean Strub, the 56-year-old HIV-positive founder of Poz, the magazine for people affected by HIV and AIDS.

Gilead’s approach seems to be working. At the end of June, during Pride weekend, Governor Cuomo, who has made gay rights a strategic part of his platform, said he wanted to make wider access to the drug part of a new effort to eradicate the AIDS epidemic in the state by 2020. Daniel O’Connell, the state’s HIV-initiatives czar, told me New York expects to put out a public-information campaign about it by year’s end, which will be the first of its kind for PrEP.

Most insurers—both private and public, such as Medicaid—have covered the cost of Truvada-for-PrEP (as they generally do once drugs are FDA-approved for specific uses), and the potentially controversial issue has flown under the public radar. Some bloggers have wondered if the Supreme Court’s Hobby Lobby ruling, which says that private employers can block contraceptive coverage for workers on the grounds of religious belief, might lead some bosses to block Truvada reimbursement on their plans.

Did you know that the federal government and insurance companies are paying $1300 a month per person to encourage promiscuous homosexuals to have bareback sex with dozens of strangers per month? Priorities, right?

Quote:“I was at the Eagle a couple months ago,” he says, referring to the West Chelsea leather bar, “and this hot little muscly Latin guy told me that he was on PrEP and that I could fuck him raw. Boom, he just said it so easily.”

A common successful homosexual opener: Hey, you can fuck me raw! If you've ever wondered why there is no such thing as game for homosexuals, now you know.

Quote:But old community habits are hard to give up. Photographer and videographer Michael Wakefield, 51 and HIV-negative, has been hosting condom-only sex parties for 20 years. “I’ve seen him literally pull guys off each other if they weren’t using condoms and throw them out of the party,” says Daskalakis, who has often worked alongside Wakefield to offer health access, such as meningitis vaccines, at the venues. “I’ve actually eroticized condoms,” Wakefield tells me. “They mean that something exciting is going to happen. Someone’s about to get fucked.

Standard for the homosexual lifestyle. While their heterosexual neighbors are attending church picnics, backyard barbecues and high school football games, the "just like us" homosexuals are engaged in raucous orgies.

Quote:In my late 20s and early 30s, after having careful, anxious sex throughout the ’90s, I went through a period of depression and addiction. It’s not that I consciously wanted to have bareback sex, but I did want to get to the point where I wasn’t thinking about condoms and HIV and risk all the time and I could lose myself. Drugs got me there.

The author is of course an HIV+ homosexual himself, and a drug addict. Depression, drugs and homosexuality all go hand in hand. Homosexuality is a mental illness and causes the sufferer to engage in extremely self-destructive and anti-social behavior.

Quote:“Okay, I’m gonna get really honest with you.” He is an escort, picking up johns in the Village. He uses the money to buy either name-brand clothes for himself or groceries for his grandma. He tested HIV-positive in late 2012 and is on treatment. He has a hard time remembering to take his meds, which he gets through Medicaid, because he drinks and gets high every day.

See above.

The article really drives home just how different homosexuals are from the rest of us. They have a mental illness that essentially turns them into depraved perverts, who are obsessed with having sex with men to such a degree that they disregard their own health and the health of others. It is outrageous, absolutely outrageous, to label these people as normal and healthy, and to equate their sexual perversions with normal heterosexual behavior, much less marriage. I do have a degree of compassion to homosexuals who feel afflicted by their condition, but the majority seem to revel in it, and seek to rub their debauchery in the faces of the rest of normal society. This simply cannot be allowed. Putin has the right idea in Russia, criminalizing the promotion of homosexuality in the media and especially banning the exposure of homosexual propaganda to children. I also think that de facto homosexual enclaves should be encouraged, where homosexuals can congregate in large numbers away from the rest of society and do whatever they want. I don't think we need to have any sort of direct persecution of homosexuals, but we absolutely should seek to protect society from them by limiting their influence, which as we have seen here is incredibly destructive to a degree that is almost difficult to believe.

Post: #108

(07-16-2014 09:48 AM)scorpion Wrote:  I also think that de facto homosexual enclaves should be encouraged, where homosexuals can congregate in large numbers away from the rest of society and do whatever they want.

The ideal would be a Zionist-like movement for gays. They could pool money and buy their own land in Africa and start their Rainbow Nation based on the principles of Sovereign Homosexualism. They would have their own health care system, their own army, their own police, etc. They could do whatever they want, but I would not have to subsidize their self-destructiveness with my tax dollars.

Post: #109

(07-16-2014 09:48 AM)scorpion Wrote:  I also think that de facto homosexual enclaves should be encouraged, where homosexuals can congregate in large numbers away from the rest of society and do whatever they want. I don't think we need to have any sort of direct persecution of homosexuals, but we absolutely should seek to protect society from them by limiting their influence, which as we have seen here is incredibly destructive to a degree that is almost difficult to believe.

I kind of agree, but I think in practice it would be ineffective. For example, compare sodomites to heroine users - both partake in activities which don't pose any immediate threat to themselves or the general public, but both also create serious long-term risks and costs which the public has to deal with. Why is one legal but the other attracts serious criminal charges and imprisonment? I don't see any reason why sodomy should be punished to a lesser degree than heroin usage.

Post: #110

(07-16-2014 10:37 AM)DaveR Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 09:48 AM)scorpion Wrote:  I also think that de facto homosexual enclaves should be encouraged, where homosexuals can congregate in large numbers away from the rest of society and do whatever they want. I don't think we need to have any sort of direct persecution of homosexuals, but we absolutely should seek to protect society from them by limiting their influence, which as we have seen here is incredibly destructive to a degree that is almost difficult to believe.

I kind of agree, but I think in practice it would be ineffective. For example, compare sodomites to heroine users - both partake in activities which don't pose any immediate threat to themselves or the general public, but both also create serious long-term risks and costs which the public has to deal with. Why is one legal but the other attracts serious criminal charges and imprisonment? I don't see any reason why sodomy should be punished to a lesser degree than heroine usage.

You're right. The punishment for being caught with heroin should be forced relocation into a gay enclave. That will discourage heroin use.

Post: #111

(07-16-2014 10:41 AM)Samseau Wrote:  You're right. The punishment for being caught with heroin should be forced relocation into a gay enclave. That will discourage heroin use.

If all the gays and heroin users were incarcerated, there would be practically no HIV in the free population. Problem solved!

Post: #112

There is a documentary on youtube called bug catchers ,,,, basically those who who are negative that want to catch the disease by actively seeking someone who has it. I don't care what they do behind closed doors, but I do care if my taxes go up or those in the USA having to pay higher insurance premiums to cover this careless behaviour.

This disease is still terrible and I don't wish anybody to get it, yet idiots are purposely trying to get it.....wtf?,?!!

Post: #113

^^^thats what happens with collectivism. the problems are shared by all! yay! personal responsibility is the most important thing to have. that's what the drug companies are selling. instead of living a clean life or being safe, they're selling that it's okay to be a sodomite, but if you're responsible, you'll buy our drug...with other peoples money. goodbye, America

Post: #114

Facts are homophobic, stop triggering me.

Post: #115

(07-16-2014 10:24 AM)Icarus Wrote:  The ideal would be a Zionist-like movement for gays. They could pool money and buy their own land in Africa and start their Rainbow Nation based on the principles of Sovereign Homosexualism. They would have their own health care system, their own army, their own police, etc.

But they do. It's called California.

Post: #116

(07-16-2014 03:04 PM)Vicious Wrote:  But they do. It's called California.

Contrary to what some Texans think, not everyone in California is gay. And California is not sovereign.

Post: #117

(07-16-2014 03:04 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 10:24 AM)Icarus Wrote:  The ideal would be a Zionist-like movement for gays. They could pool money and buy their own land in Africa and start their Rainbow Nation based on the principles of Sovereign Homosexualism. They would have their own health care system, their own army, their own police, etc.

But they do. It's called California.

Its likely Toronto.

Even gays from California leave the sunny weather and move up here because liberal California is to up-tight for them. Nobody knows the true number of how many live in this city, my guess is around 80,000 as they are literally everywhere downtown.

Post: #118

Quote:“I stayed the night with a guy I knew, whom I believe to be HIV-negative,” he tells me. “We passed out, too drunk to fuck.” In the morning, they tried again, without a condom. “He was getting close to coming,” Jacobs relates, “and he said, ‘Do you want me to pull out?’ and I said, ‘No.’ I thought, I want this experience. I deserve this.”

The bolded part is the classic tell of a narcissist. You'll hear it all the time on chocolate commercials aimed at women, said in a smokey voice. "So indulgent. So decadent. But you deserve it." Oprah and the privileged twats on The View say it like a mantra, particularly when it comes to relationship advice.

Quote:This man is a 43 year old professional (a therapist, no less) and his sexual behaviors are those of an out of control, horny 16 year old in the backseat of dad's car. In a nutshell, this characterizes the mentality of homosexuals in general.

Nah, 16 year olds have a better understanding of social norms, even though they're horny.

What you're seeing are adult men with the mind of children. They mentally stop in their development in childhood before they form an understanding of teenage peer socialisation, which is why they demand to be liked, because they have no concept of what behaviour is appropriate or normal to be accepted by their peers.

Children are ruled by the desires of their Ids, and will disregard social norms to achieve them. They can't tolerate their desires being frustrated. I want I want I want. This is why you see children throwing tantrums in public or making spectacles of themselves to get their own way.

Around the onset of puberty, children start perceiving that their peers are judging them, and such tactics would make others embarrassed by them or want to avoid them, thus, no friends, so they start masking the desires of their id to fit in. So, though a girl might secretly wish to dress like a ballerina at school, she knows she'll have more friends if she bends to the peer group norms of behaviour.

Gay men just never seem to learn this. I'm fascinated by how childlike they are. They're classic tantrum throwers - even in their fifties. "I shouldn't have to change! Everyone should like me how I am! I'll make you like me!" Then they run off to the teacher or parent to force the other kids to 'play with them.'

When you watch gay men in action, note their attention-seeking behaviour in both voice and movement - particularly their exaggerated facial expressions. It particularly matches up with how toddlers and younger children act, which explains their love of playing 'dress up'.

I'd hear the nurses at my old job talking about sex, and it seemed like sex for a gay man was less about fucking someone you were attracted to, like straight people, but more about fucking someone who was attractive enough to reinforce how attractive you believe yourself to be. Basically, using the other guy to masturbate one's ego. Classic narcissism: you don't fuck for connection, you fuck for narcissistic supply. Being desired by the desirable is the point.

If my childlike narcissism theory was correct, then a gay guy's ultimate boyfriend would be himself, especially as he wouldn't judge his behaviour negatively.

A quick search found this:

Do gay men date men who look similar to them?

If you can stomach gay kissing and men dressing-up like toddlers, look at the long feed of guys basically fucking themselves, which might explain their inability to realise it's weird to want to fuck family members, which I mentioned the other day:

http://boyfriendtwin.tumblr.com/

Post: #119

The info in this thread makes me want to throw up, and also move to Russia.

Post: #120

Truvada sounds like that drug from the World War Z novel which claimed to provide protection against the zed disease.

How this will turn out will be anyone's guess.

Post: #121

Damn fags...the scary thing is that they pressure hard for child adoption, as they want to show that they are normal people, like you and me. I saw two homos of my city on tv-they were interviewed because they recently adopted chinese kids. 2 male children. And the TV host(hoe) presented them as good, caring parents willing to ensure the well-being of these kids.

Considering their ferocious willingness to reach neverending depths of depravity, I expect the children they adopt to be used as sexual partners when they will be of age. They will likely rationalize it by saying that they're teaching them tolerance/acceptance, that its the rules at home ,or worse, they will say that its ok to have sex with them because they don't share blood ties and that they're 18+.

If I ever have progeny in the future, and I learn that a sodomite teaches at the school my kids attend, I will pull them out of this hell and will homeschool them if needed. Ain't no immature, pleasure-seeking, narcissist, depraved fag going to touch my kids and teach them something.

Fags are viewed as the wretched abominations they really are in most parts of the world, they are rightly shunned and not taken seriously. The Lord called their acts ''vile affections''. He even destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah out of fury, because he couldn't tolerate anymore their enjoyment of faggotry.

Tolerance is enough. Being gay makes sure you're going to die at 30 maximum, and costing society billions of dollars. Western societies are already nearly bankrupt- we don't need to pay medical welfare to these faggots.

Post: #122

(07-16-2014 06:50 PM)Master Of My Own Kingdom Wrote:  The Lord called their acts ''vile affections''. He even destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah out of fury, because he couldn't tolerate anymore their enjoyment of faggotry.

This time, the San Andreas Fault and Mother Nature will do the trick.

Post: #123

(07-16-2014 06:16 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Truvada sounds like that drug from the World War Z novel which claimed to provide protection against the zed disease.

How this will turn out will be anyone's guess.

Well, how will this turn out?

Look at Truvada's own website:

Quote:[Truvada is used] to help reduce the risk of getting HIV-1 infection when used together with safer sex practices.

Always practice safer sex and use condoms to lower the chance of sexual contact with body fluids. Never reuse or share needles or other items that have body fluids on them.

From a Time article on the subject:

Quote:In one study, healthy gay and bisexual men who took Truvada daily and were counseled about safe sex practices lowered their risk of becoming infected by up to 42%.

and:

Quote:Public health officials also worry that people may engage in more risky behaviors when they are on the drug, believing they are protected completely against HIV, which they are not.

Critics of that were saying this wouldn't happen, but look at everything in that article Scorp quoted above and the quotes I mentioned in relation to Obamacare: gay guys deliberately engaging in risky behaviour thinking they now have a remote chance of catching HIV, ignoring the recommendations for safe sex and condoms. Does 'TruvadaWhore' sound like someone making responsible sexual choices?

This will not end well, for either the gay men doing this, or the taxpayer having to keep them alive.

Post: #124

I wonder how much money is currently wasted because of homosexual propaganda in media, massive tolerance campaigns, and more or less tacit encouragement of faggot lifestyle in all levels of education, obviously directed to young males, and medical welfare for diseased homos, who are simply repeat offenders and avowed recividists of wretched, horrible sexual deviancies.

Post: #125

(07-16-2014 03:04 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 10:24 AM)Icarus Wrote:  The ideal would be a Zionist-like movement for gays. They could pool money and buy their own land in Africa and start their Rainbow Nation based on the principles of Sovereign Homosexualism. They would have their own health care system, their own army, their own police, etc.

But they do. It's called California.

Haha when I read it, I was thinking, "They already have their own Zion, it's called West Hollywood."

The mayor of the city is an HIV positive gay dude. That should tell you everything.