Post: #26

Very good trip report Source Code and very accurate. However you did not mention Italians rely heavily on social circles and that getting male friends to introduce you to the higher quality women would have helped you out. But making social circles in Italy is hard work just to get your name out there and to also maintain it.

This is the one thing I hate about Italy and why most Italians are so coddled and spoiled.

Post: #27

Italy sounds as bad or worse as many parts of the US. Where is Rooshio? I guess Italians are not motivated enough.

Post: #28

(07-07-2014 03:46 PM)Eurobrat Wrote:  Very good trip report Source Code and very accurate. However you did not mention Italians rely heavily on social circles and that getting male friends to introduce you to the higher quality women would have helped you out. But making social circles in Italy is hard work just to get your name out there and to also maintain it.

This is the one thing I hate about Italy and why most Italians are so coddled and spoiled.

Well I wasnt really there long enough. I only spent 9 days and was in a new city ever about every 2-3 days.
I did couch surfing in some places to instantly
break into a cirlcle.. but thats still not enough time to establish myself , no matter how social i am.

I feel like a touched on the concept thought..that italians just hang around in groups and endlessly walk through the streets and plazas.

so they arent really out meeting random new people.
They clearly all meet in college or have been long time friends..
I blend in by being student.. but im not connected to any of their groups.

Who is paying for Italian girls to look pretty and such?
I know italians far and wide.. men and women seem to live with their parents forever.
Is daddy buying his princess prissy outfits? and such?

Post: #29

Yes dude. And or the "left wing" ones with the dreadlocks are usually the ones who come from families with not as much money. They're not poor, but they usually can't afford the luxury stuff.

The "right wing" girls with the nice handbags and dresses are usually middle to upper middle class girls that are far harder to date. You would have to be so well connected just to go out on a date with one, and they usually have a checklist of standards you need to meet.

Post: #30

Hey! I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy your trip in Italy!
Italian girls in Italy (abroad they are sluts) are tough for everyone because they are full of complexes, very stuck up and very pretentious.
The culture is different from other countries (or to put it better: the same concepts that are valid for every country are taken to extremes)
When the average italian girl likes a guy she will try to become engaged with him instead of bang him only for one night...this is because she is afraid of being seen like a slut so she tend to stay forever engaged (with different guys).
When she becomes tired of banging a guy, she will break up with him and find a new guy right after to whom she will stay engaged for the same short period of time (some months).
The "forever engaged" thing allow her to bang some guys and, at the same time, have some plausible deniability when somome bring up the fact that she is a slut.

But the real problem in Italy is the way you will meet new people (and new girls)
Cold approaching girls in Italy is just a waste of time, 90% of guys that I know who are engaged with a girl have been introduced to that girl by shared friends
I can't stress it enough the importance of social circle in Italy...if you don't have a good social circle in Italy you are screwed before the start...no matter who you are.
Girls that you find in the streets during the day don't want to be approached by random guys...when they are alone during the day (it's really, really difficult to see them alone) they will always have headphones in the ears or engaged in some phone calls....and if you approach them nonetheless they won't show any sign of appreciativeness.

Between guys there is a very huge competition and since it's difficult to know new girls they will almost always try to cockblock you (especially if the girl is beautiful).

Girls are approached relentlessly by every guy so they have a very high consideration of themselves...no matter how beautiful they are every one of them feel entitled to have a male model as a boyfriend.

Luckily in the big cities with some tricks you can bang some italian girls, but it remains way more difficult than other countries (at least the ones in which I have been).

Post: #31

Anyway if you have to come here, just go straight to Milan...it's a shit hole but it has the most beautiful girls in Italy.
Don't be fooled though....if you are looking for the hot ones you will have to go through some really hard work and no matter what level of game you have, you should also possess a beefy figure

Let me know if you are headed here...it's not true that the nightlife sucks...it's chock full of clubs (mainly posh and high end though) and bars

Post: #32

Mi piace Italia

Post: #33

Menace, lack of motivation isn't the problem, rather smart guys have realised time ago italian girls just aren't worth it; you can get hotter, more submissive and pleasant foreign girls, here for travel/study/etc, with half the effort and time.

I've already given up entirely on italian girls unless they throw their pussy at me, as eastern european, scandinavian and south american chicks are plentiful here in the erasmus scene and just generally better. Even when they do put out soon it gets boring really quick, social hang ups are the reason the italian dating scene sucks.

I though I was the only one really negative about italy here but I see this is the general consensus, so, to whoever may want to visit our nice little country take heed: the forum don't lie.

Post: #34

(07-09-2014 04:11 AM)Snowflake Wrote:  I though I was the only one really negative about italy here but I see this is the general consensus, so, to whoever may want to visit our nice little country take heed: the forum don't lie.

Esattamente

Post: #35

It may suck for women, but I had a blast in Italy. The food, the history, the countryside. Its fucking beautiful.

If you go there for cultural/historical reasons, you will probably have a better time.

Post: #36

Great report on Italy. Definitely avoiding it haha.

I feel you on the Romanian girl, I banged one and she got me hooked. Very caring and up for everything, made me consider a trip to Eastern Europe much more.

Post: #37

I'm here in Italy now, I went out on a date last night but it was with an Albanian girl. I personally have found some of the Albanian girls to be good catches.

Post: #38

Yeah women are difficult but the quality can be very high.

Some universities are just unbelievable....models everywhere, especially in Milan

Post: #39

One thing Id like to add about Italy, its got socialized healthcare. Have a friend here in China from there, he's moving back... sounds like a good place to be.

Post: #40

(07-10-2014 06:26 AM)BadWolf Wrote:  One thing Id like to add about Italy, its got socialized healthcare. Have a friend here in China from there, he's moving back... sounds like a good place to be.

All of Europe except Switzerland has the universal healthcare.

Post: #41

The social class system is still important in Italy, so that may make it not worth the effort for many guys. If you need a sophisticated woman, then the ratio is not that bad compared to other places. It's the wrong place for quick bangs though.

Also, for black guys, there is a problem with illegal immigrants from Africa in many cities. They make themselves very unwelcome by soliciting donations in return for coloured string and trinkets, so that may cause a problem if you're trying to cold approach. You'll have to distinguish yourself as much as possible by dressing well - nice suits, no plastic shoes, no bling, etc. Try to look like Ozwald Boateng.

Post: #42

Italy is a lovely place to visit but hard to live in.

Post: #43

(07-12-2014 10:33 AM)Eurobrat Wrote:  Italy is in eternal crisis and the people are not taking it well, they are getting worse every year. I would avoid Italy for anything more than a long vacation.

And that's coming from an Italian.

I agree, I can't wait to take my graduate degree and escape from Italy....
If things will go uneventful, in two years I should be out of this shithole!!

Post: #44

Greeks who study in Italy are known for their delay in studies and squeezing of fat masturbations while Greeks who study in Romania get their degrees in order(by bribing) as well as the hottest women.
There are cases of Greeks studying 8-10 years in Italy unable to pass more than 10 lessons,getting to Romania and having their degree in one year after passing 40 exams.In the same time fucking models and driving the best cars.
It is part of Greek crisis now the easy heavens and the heirs they got to us.(soft underachievers who did everything easy).

Post: #45

(07-10-2014 06:26 AM)BadWolf Wrote:  One thing Id like to add about Italy, its got socialized healthcare. Have a friend here in China from there, he's moving back... sounds like a good place to be.

social healthcare is in almost every country in Western Europe...this is NOT North America.

Post: #46

Somehow the account i had all pictures on got deleted... so i think slowly this thread will be full of dead images.
Nothing super important was here though

Post: #47

(07-12-2014 05:23 PM)EU Explorer Wrote:  

(07-10-2014 06:26 AM)BadWolf Wrote:  One thing Id like to add about Italy, its got socialized healthcare. Have a friend here in China from there, he's moving back... sounds like a good place to be.

social healthcare is in almost every country in Western Europe...this is NOT North America.

Canada actually has socialized healthcare as well. Mexico and the US are the two countries that don't.

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