Post: #3351

(05-03-2017 02:02 PM)invictusiii Wrote:  

(05-03-2017 12:46 PM)NewMeta Wrote:  I had a very short trip to Kiev, non-game related but i took a trip down the main street Khreschatyk. Has to be said but people aren't blowing smoke here about the beauty of Ukrainian girls, I was very impressed. Not so much in the ass department, though, I was actually a bit disappointed in that regard, but I think all in all you seem to get a much better package than that of what I see back in Poland. I'd have liked to have maybe day gamed abit (even though I'm in a relationship back in poland) just to see what the english speaking was like, as most my interactions in the city got me feeling like if you didn't know russian you were at a very severe disadvantage. Unfortunately I got locked out of my phone and had to walk around with a friend of mine, so didn't have the best circumstances to go off of.

I did see quite a few day gamers though, saw the guys who run Street Attraction in the square in front of the Mcdonalds, only familiar with them because I have seen them on 2 occasions running large PUA boot camps in Wroclaw, I suspect they had a similar gig going on during the day I visited, but maybe just coaching a couple of lads rather than a whole bootcamp. I imagine its quite common for girls walking on their own or in small groups of 2 or 3 to get approached on that street, what are general attitudes like for those day gaming there? Also what is the english level like?

In my experience Khreschatyk is hit or miss. It's the main daygame street so you'll run into a lot of girls that know whats up. It's also full of street vendors and people trying to hustle things so people are more on their guard in general there. I've had better luck approaching girls in the parks and in the subway. As far as English goes, it's also hit or miss. If you approach near one of the universities though, you'll probably have better luck. I know a tad bit of Russian so I was able to stumble my way through some sets and get a number. Used Google translate a few times as well with no problems.

Some good advice right there, id have been a lot more motivated to learn russian there i think than polish in poland. too many people speak english here, makes me very complacent. Cheers for the insight anyway.

Post: #3352

Which ATM do you guys use for high limit (9,000 UAH at a time), no fee withdrawals?

Credit Agricole was my go-to, but now they're not taking my card.

I've had to use Privatbank, but they charge a $10 USD commission, which is bullshit.

All the other ATMs I went to either don't take my card or have a low maximum withdrawal limit.

Post: #3353

I will be staying in Dnipro for may-june. PM me if you want to meet up

Post: #3354

(05-06-2017 12:23 PM)eetrader Wrote:  I will be staying in Dnipro for may-june. PM me if you want to meet up

Why did you choose Dnipro?

Post: #3355

(04-23-2017 01:41 PM)OxfordSexMachine Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 01:13 PM)Schvoss Wrote:  Did you see many foreigners aka sex tourists, Turks etc in Odessa?

I've seen maybe two Turks in four days walking around... I have seen more Europeans but overall the whole place seems kind of deserted apart from the locals. There's virtually nobody in my hotel near Arcadia, for instance. I was at breakfast and there were four of us in a sea of 50-60 chairs. The city hasn't woken up yet from the Winter (not too surprising for a seaside resort I guess).

Gimme a break, a 5 minute walk down Deribasovskaya and you will see at least 10. And at nighttime double that

Post: #3356

For those that are in Kiev atm - are you noticing any difference in populace and for that matter general city vibe with the imminent Eurovision song contest about to start?

Post: #3357

(05-07-2017 06:21 AM)Dirkus Wrote:  For those that are in Kiev atm - are you noticing any difference in populace and for that matter general city vibe with the imminent Eurovision song contest about to start?

Another forum member and I hung around Kreshatik for a bit yesterday and it was really packed.

Part of it was due to amazing weather and part of it was due to the fact that they've got a stage set up in the middle of the street and there's the "Eurovision Village" that you have to go through a security check to get into.

So even though part of the congestion was due to a lot of space being taken up by the stage and the fenced-off village, there were still a lot more people than normal.

Post: #3358

Hey guys !

I was in Forsage last night with a friend ... What a terrible night ...

All girls went with ugly Turkish guys and so ...

In my country (France), I am quite popular amongst women, but what happened here ? I mean nothing at all, while in my country, everything is so smooth.
All girls seemed to me interested only with Turkish ? Is that normal here ?

Post: #3359

Nightgame in Kiev is arduous, also in student club like Forsage. The Turkish establishment is complicated to overcome. Suggest you to focus in day game and online game in Kiev.
In France it is another story, girls are less materialistic (except the Parisians) and if you have solid game and you have a good look, you will be successfull no doubt in clubs.

Post: #3360

(05-10-2017 03:02 AM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  Nightgame in Kiev is arduous, also in student club like Forsage. The Turkish establishment is complicated to overcome. Suggest you to focus in day game and online game in Kiev.
In France it is another story, girls are less materialistic (except the Parisians) and if you have solid game and you have a good look, you will be successfull no doubt in clubs.

At Forsage you will mostly find young gutter sluts, the Turks mostly target this category as they cannot get the higher quality girls.

Kiev nightgame can be fruitful if you know where to go and how to play the game.

Quote:In France it is another story, girls are less materialistic (except the Parisians) and if you have solid game and you have a good look, you will be successfull no doubt in clubs.

This is true of almost all Western countries, and if you are in your 30's or 40's regardless if your looks it will be v hard to get a 18-21yr old, whereas in Kiev some can pick and choose their student

Post: #3361

(05-10-2017 03:30 AM)BangBoy123 Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 03:02 AM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  Nightgame in Kiev is arduous, also in student club like Forsage. The Turkish establishment is complicated to overcome. Suggest you to focus in day game and online game in Kiev.
In France it is another story, girls are less materialistic (except the Parisians) and if you have solid game and you have a good look, you will be successfull no doubt in clubs.

At Forsage you will mostly find young gutter sluts, the Turks mostly target this category as they cannot get the higher quality girls.

Don't underestimate turks , some get very pretty girls

In Lviv they ruined the nightlife

they are not skinflint , they invite girls in turkey ( don't need any visa , cheap flight ), it's easy, and they have a big motivation for get Ukrainian girls . They can pay a lot .
Soon will be again more flights from turkey , Ukraine will be never like before
Difficult to find one girl who was not in Turkey

Post: #3362

@bangboy123: I agree that in Kiev you have to know where to go and how to move, it is not an easy city if you have only a few days and not a good experience of the city and its dynamics. Anyway quality is at the top and if you "work on the street", you will find absolute stunners.

@charles demoulin: last time I was in Lviv it was a disaster in terms of nightlife and I observed the evolution and decline over the last years. Metro is totally Turkish and middle east establishment. Even Rafinad and Fashion are invaded by cunts ready for everything to get a girl. Normal Ukranian girls hate partying in such places. Arsenal was good but they closed it. Bar and cafe game probably work decently. I need to come back soon to check the situation, this time focusing on day game that beats night game, also in Lviv.

Post: #3363

I just discovered something that made my life a lot easier.

You can order 20L jugs of water for 63 UAH each if you buy at least two and that includes someone carrying them up to your flat.

I live on the 5th floor without an elevator, so it was annoying bringing water up all the time.

Today is fucking cold. I saw flakes of snow in the air in the morning.

Post: #3364

(05-10-2017 04:08 AM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  @charles demoulin: last time I was in Lviv it was a disaster in terms of nightlife and I observed the evolution and decline over the last years. Metro is totally Turkish and middle east establishment. Even Rafinad and Fashion are invaded by cunts ready for everything to get a girl. Normal Ukranian girls hate partying in such places. Arsenal was good but they closed it. Bar and cafe game probably work decently. I need to come back soon to check the situation, this time focusing on day game that beats night game, also in Lviv.

In Fashion Club , when they see a foreigner , they ask him for entrance to pay a prepaid card 1,000 grivna (40$) , you have to use this amount for drink or food .
4,000 grivna , if you want a table .
If you are Ukrainian you pay only 100 grivna for entrance , like before .

it's a rip off , it's for limited the number of Turks inside , but they still come in numbers . They are here for White pussy and nothing stop them.

Turks created an inflation .

Even with girls

I remember the times when girls was happy with one bottle of Ukrainian champagne or Ukrainian vodka , now they ask for Jack Daniel's or true french champagne , the best table , because of the turks.

Since the lifting of visa for the Turks, Ukraine has become a mess, it is worse and worse, I see everydays hordes of Turkish man between 30 and 50 years old , Thirsty for sex and ready to do anything for it .

Post: #3365

(05-10-2017 07:13 AM)charles dumoulin Wrote:  In Fashion Club , when they see a foreigner , they ask him for entrance to pay a prepaid card 1,000 grivna (40$) , you have to use this amount for drink or food .
4,000 grivna , if you want a table .
If you are Ukrainian you pay only 100 grivna for entrance , like before .

it's a rip off , it's for limited the number of Turks inside , but they still come in numbers . They are here for White pussy and nothing stop them.

Turks created an inflation .

Even with girls

I remember the times when girls was happy with one bottle of Ukrainian champagne or Ukrainian vodka , now they ask for Jack Daniel's or true french champagne , the best table , because of the turks.

Since the lifting of visa for the Turks, Ukraine has become a mess, it is worse and worse, I see everydays hordes of Turkish man between 30 and 50 years old , Thirsty for sex and ready to do anything for it .

Holy crap, I didn't know about the new policy in Fashion, a few months ago when I was there last time I only paid my usual entrance cover and it was fine. It seems like all EE is screwed: in Poland you have plenty of Italians, British and Spanish that destroyed the nightlife, Baltics have been burned for a decade, Budapest is invaded as well, and in UA you have the Turkish establishment. I am afraid that Western Europe won't be the same after the migrant crisis as well.
Anyway to differentiate yourself in Lviv it is mandatory to shave your beard and dress well to make sure that girls understand that you're not the usual sex tourist from Middle East. I think that also day game and bar game can work. I had a lot of girls very interested when I did my approaches a few months ago in Lviv, definitely better than Poland where they don't give a fuck.
I will be in Lviv next month, let me know if you wanna join forces against the Turkish establishment

Post: #3366

(05-10-2017 04:08 AM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  @charles demoulin: last time I was in Lviv it was a disaster in terms of nightlife and I observed the evolution and decline over the last years. Metro is totally Turkish and middle east establishment. Even Rafinad and Fashion are invaded by cunts ready for everything to get a girl. Normal Ukranian girls hate partying in such places. Arsenal was good but they closed it. Bar and cafe game probably work decently. I need to come back soon to check the situation, this time focusing on day game that beats night game, also in Lviv.

I've noticed a pattern in many of your posts. A lot of places are "disasters" for you. It looks to me like you have a negative mindset, and you've been spreading it to some degree in some travel posts in the EE section of the forum.

We get it. Some places are worse than others, and you believe there's a general decline. I bet men have been saying the same throughout the entire course of history; "it used to be so much better years ago."

No place is perfect, true. But you're making several places across Eastern Europe seem bad when they're more than adequate for many men, especially those who fit the standard in this forum.

Post: #3367

delete, sorry wrong thread

Post: #3368

(05-10-2017 12:45 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 04:08 AM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  @charles demoulin: last time I was in Lviv it was a disaster in terms of nightlife and I observed the evolution and decline over the last years. Metro is totally Turkish and middle east establishment. Even Rafinad and Fashion are invaded by cunts ready for everything to get a girl. Normal Ukranian girls hate partying in such places. Arsenal was good but they closed it. Bar and cafe game probably work decently. I need to come back soon to check the situation, this time focusing on day game that beats night game, also in Lviv.

I've noticed a pattern in many of your posts. A lot of places are "disasters" for you. It looks to me like you have a negative mindset, and you've been spreading it to some degree in some travel posts in the EE section of the forum.

We get it. Some places are worse than others, and you believe there's a general decline. I bet men have been saying the same throughout the entire course of history; "it used to be so much better years ago."

No place is perfect, true. But you're making several places across Eastern Europe seem bad when they're more than adequate for many men, especially those who fit the standard in this forum.

He also likes to make use of the term "solid game" as if we are supposed to believe he knows what this is considering how negative he is.

Post: #3369

(05-10-2017 12:45 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  I've noticed a pattern in many of your posts. A lot of places are "disasters" for you. It looks to me like you have a negative mindset, and you've been spreading it to some degree in some travel posts in the EE section of the forum.

We get it. Some places are worse than others, and you believe there's a general decline. I bet men have been saying the same throughout the entire course of history; "it used to be so much better years ago."

No place is perfect, true. But you're making several places across Eastern Europe seem bad when they're more than adequate for many men, especially those who fit the standard in this forum.

Contrarily to other people I don't brag about my success which I prefer to keep for myself. If I would start, I think I could never finish...
But also, I see the reality with the eyes of a mature person who has been constantly living and traveling across various EE countries for many years. I don't dream all year about the week of holiday in EE like many of you, I LIVE the reality every single day.
Then we discussed about various city, if you read all my posts instead of joining the usual "chorus" of desperate and dreamers, I spent good words about Czech Republic, Ukraine in general and Gdansk for instance. There are instead towns in EE that are today a lot more arduous than Western and Southern Europe. Reality which is different from the perspective of the horny guys who visits Poland for a few days and gets drunk every night ending up bedding a 90kg girl, if they are lucky.
So reply in the context if you want, we are talking about Ukraine and Lviv. If you have never been in this city, better avoiding replying.

Post: #3370

(05-10-2017 05:58 PM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 12:45 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  I've noticed a pattern in many of your posts. A lot of places are "disasters" for you. It looks to me like you have a negative mindset, and you've been spreading it to some degree in some travel posts in the EE section of the forum.

We get it. Some places are worse than others, and you believe there's a general decline. I bet men have been saying the same throughout the entire course of history; "it used to be so much better years ago."

No place is perfect, true. But you're making several places across Eastern Europe seem bad when they're more than adequate for many men, especially those who fit the standard in this forum.

Contrarily to other people I don't brag about my success which I prefer to keep for myself. If I would start, I think I could never finish...
But also, I see the reality with the eyes of a mature person who has been constantly living and traveling across various EE countries for many years. I don't dream all year about the week of holiday in EE like many of you, I LIVE the reality every single day.
Then we discussed about various city, if you read all my posts instead of joining the usual "chorus" of desperate and dreamers, I spent good words about Czech Republic, Ukraine in general and Gdansk for instance. There are instead towns in EE that are today a lot more arduous than Western and Southern Europe. Reality which is different from the perspective of the horny guys who visits Poland for a few days and gets drunk every night ending up bedding a 90kg girl, if they are lucky.
So reply in the context if you want, we are talking about Ukraine and Lviv. If you have never been in this city, better avoiding replying.

Which language is more efective in Lviv Russian or English during the daytime?.And at night?

Post: #3371

@brat: Russian will always be more effective than English in any part of Ukraine. If you would ask Ukrainian vs Russian in Lviv that is a totally different story.

@Giacomo: I can't believe Lviv changed so much in just one year. I had my only SNL there in fashion club. Not easy but doable. A lot of hotness on streets. Are you sure you went to the same Lviv I did?

Post: #3372

(05-10-2017 05:58 PM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 12:45 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  I've noticed a pattern in many of your posts. A lot of places are "disasters" for you. It looks to me like you have a negative mindset, and you've been spreading it to some degree in some travel posts in the EE section of the forum.

We get it. Some places are worse than others, and you believe there's a general decline. I bet men have been saying the same throughout the entire course of history; "it used to be so much better years ago."

No place is perfect, true. But you're making several places across Eastern Europe seem bad when they're more than adequate for many men, especially those who fit the standard in this forum.

Contrarily to other people I don't brag about my success which I prefer to keep for myself. If I would start, I think I could never finish...
But also, I see the reality with the eyes of a mature person who has been constantly living and traveling across various EE countries for many years. I don't dream all year about the week of holiday in EE like many of you, I LIVE the reality every single day.
Then we discussed about various city, if you read all my posts instead of joining the usual "chorus" of desperate and dreamers, I spent good words about Czech Republic, Ukraine in general and Gdansk for instance. There are instead towns in EE that are today a lot more arduous than Western and Southern Europe. Reality which is different from the perspective of the horny guys who visits Poland for a few days and gets drunk every night ending up bedding a 90kg girl, if they are lucky.
So reply in the context if you want, we are talking about Ukraine and Lviv. If you have never been in this city, better avoiding replying.

To be fair, I'm commenting about your negativity towards certain places in Poland and Ukraine. Particularly the former.

I'm no expert on these places, nor do I claim to be. I've only spent a month in each location so far. But having been to places you've highly criticised, my observations (and those of several other forum guys I had the pleasure of meeting in these places) are highly different from yours.

I'm not saying you have weak game. Nor am I bringing anything forward in that regard. Rather, that you're being overly negative at best, and trolling at worst.

Post: #3373

I agree with Giacomo in that many Western European locations are better nowadays than many overhyped/exhausted Eastern European ones.

I choose Barcelona 10 times over Odessa or Warsaw for example.

I was in Kharkov 2 nights last year after an absence of two years, and also noticed a clear decline. Still good though on a saturday night, the friday night was worst than Lisbon regarding ratios...The amount of Ukrainian, Turkish, Georgian, Westerner and even Polish cock was a shock to me, not specifically because of fear of competition, but mostly because this was not what I had first experienced not that many years back.

...it used to be 9 girls for each guy in the dancefloor. True words.

Post: #3374

Never been in kharkov but wasn't expecting that number of foreigners .
@rocha: have you been in dnipro lately ? Is it worth to go for two weeks ? Or besides gaming there's nothing else to do?

Post: #3375

(05-10-2017 09:42 PM)Rocha Wrote:  I agree with Giacomo in that many Western European locations are better nowadays than many overhyped/exhausted Eastern European ones.

I choose Barcelona 10 times over Odessa or Warsaw for example.

I was in Kharkov 2 nights last year after an absence of two years, and also noticed a clear decline. Still good though on a saturday night, the friday night was worst than Lisbon regarding ratios...The amount of Ukrainian, Turkish, Georgian, Westerner and even Polish cock was a shock to me, not specifically because of fear of competition, but mostly because this was not what I had first experienced not that many years back.

...it used to be 9 girls for each guy in the dancefloor. True words.

I hate both Odessa and Warsaw - and am not a fan of Barcelona, but I'd agree.

The problem is you won't find many Slavic-looking girls in Barcelona. If that's your true preference (I know mine is!), you're just automatically not going to be as enthused about Western Europe.