The Ukraine Thread III
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H1N1 路 2019-01-23 07:28:00 路 #5124
There are plenty on airbnb in Shevshenko, Podil and Pechersk. You may be able to strike a deal with the landlord, or ask about others in the same building that may be available to rent. I don't know how to find short stay apartments, I only dealt with long stay stuff. Others can probably advise you better on that. But you shouldn't be paying more than $1k even at a short stay premium, and you ought to be getting something very nice and brand new for that.
edlefou 路 2019-01-23 08:08:00 路 #5125
Here's what I did for finding an apartment when I moved to Kiev: I booked a few places on dobovo for a couple days each in different neighborhoods and then looked around to see where I wanted to live and negotiated a cash rate for longer term stay.
I arrived in October, so any time during the off-season it's easier to negotiate. In the summer forget it.
Ended up getting an awesome place by Zoloti Vorta facing the back of Sofiisky Sobor for 11,500 grivna, but this was 2016 so it won't be that cheap unless you go further outside the center or compromise on quality.
If you speak Russian, try OLX, but beware the scams.
edlefou 路 2019-01-23 08:14:00 路 #5126
(01-21-2019 11:16 AM)Brodiaga Wrote: Yes, Eddie has a point. I had better luck with Ukrainian and Russian girls abroad than in Ukraine and Russia. There are tons of Russian-speaking girls who travel around the world, work odd jobs, often stay in other countries either illegally or semi-legally. Many of them are just happy to find a normal guy who can take them out on a date and can afford his own place where he can bring them. Europe is not the only place where you can meet these girls. Basically any popular beach town in the world has some Russian speaking girls either visiting or staying long term... Cancun, Phuket, Pattaya, Bali, you name it.
I had an overnight stopover in Warsaw a few months ago and was surprised how many Ukrainians were around.
When travel barriers are opened they'll be flooding the EU. Same thing happened when the Baltics joined the EU around 15 years ago. London (and everywhere else I'm sure) became prime places for scoring with hot emigrants.
They can travel for next to nothing or they can get a sponsor to fund them so money is not an issue.
This summer I'll hit Ukraine for a bit and probably Spain as well, so I can compare the scene and report back.
Found some decent ones on airbnb for $1200 USDish. But nothing to special.. But they will be ok for the first month. Will book soon...
These style penthouses are what i am looking for but anything close is to a crazy price in kyiv.
https://en.casacol.co/en/medellin-penthousesedlefou 路 2019-01-24 07:33:00 路 #5128
The penthouses in EE won't be on the level of Medellin mainly because of climate differences.
Extensive rooftop patios with pools won't fly in places where you can only use them a few months out of the year.
Feyoder 路 2019-01-24 14:19:00 路 #5129
Another (the last?) nail in the coffin:
Article:
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/uk...-isolation
Quote:Three years after losing all Russia routes, Kharkiv air traffic nearly hit a record 1 million passengers
Quote:Kyiv Sikorsky handled 2.8 million passengers, 100 times more than in 2010.
Quote:on November 20, Ryanair chief commercial officer David O鈥橞rien updated Poroshenko on his airline鈥檚 plans: investment of $1.5 billion in Ukraine routes, raising passenger flows from 1 million in 2019 to 5 million in 2023.
(01-24-2019 02:19 PM)Feyoder Wrote: Another (the last?) nail in the coffin:
![[Image: 20190121_brooke_large.jpg]](https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/images/royaltyfree/thumbnails/20190121_brooke_large.jpg)
Article: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/uk...-isolation
Quote:Three years after losing all Russia routes, Kharkiv air traffic nearly hit a record 1 million passengers
Quote:Kyiv Sikorsky handled 2.8 million passengers, 100 times more than in 2010.
Quote:on November 20, Ryanair chief commercial officer David O鈥橞rien updated Poroshenko on his airline鈥檚 plans: investment of $1.5 billion in Ukraine routes, raising passenger flows from 1 million in 2019 to 5 million in 2023.
I think there's an echo in here, I posted this on the last page. Well done for adding the image though

Hey Guys if you are under 30 years old and want to bang easily in Ukraine, I recommend you go with the NGO AIESEC, basically all the NGO are run by girls, and they speak english, usually when guys come there, they got sex with 5 or 6 girls in this 篓NGO篓 so is completely worth it to go with them.
Plus if you make educational project, you have your students, thats why I recommend to take the projects that you work with adults.
This is my hack to get laid super easy in ukraine
Barron 路 2019-01-25 03:14:00 路 #5132
(01-25-2019 02:57 AM)Maximosantana Wrote: Hey Guys if you are under 30 years old and want to bang easily in Ukraine, I recommend you go with the NGO AIESEC, basically all the NGO are run by girls, and they speak english, usually when guys come there, they got sex with 5 or 6 girls in this 篓NGO篓 so is completely worth it to go with them.
Plus if you make educational project, you have your students, thats why I recommend to take the projects that you work with adults.
This is my hack to get laid super easy in ukraine
What's your funnel? describe your statistics, for example:
100 approaches > 20 dates > 3 lays
When a brand new member starts shooting their mouth off about "getting lays with this one quick tip" without any breakdown of their method and results, it's a sure-fire way to get banned for trolling. But I'm sure you're different.
(01-24-2019 07:33 AM)edlefou Wrote: The penthouses in EE won't be on the level of Medellin mainly because of climate differences.
Extensive rooftop patios with pools won't fly in places where you can only use them a few months out of the year.
Yea that is true. But Excluding the roof top patios. The interior design is mediocre in Kyiv apartments. It is not a big deal. I just like having every advantage I can get; Style, physique, nice place, status, and of course game. Especially dealing with the higher quality girls. You really need every advantage you can get to stand apart from the average person when dealing with the real hq woman. These days I i don't waste my time with 5/10s. I go for more quality than quantity. But Its ok... I found a decent one on Airbnb which will do for now. It is located in the city center. It is not breathtaking, but it is not a bad place either.
Rocha 路 2019-02-01 16:55:00 路 #5134
Dont know if you guys are aware that this is happening, and he has a great chance at winning against Yuliya Timoschenko on the 2nd round.
I am a fan though, the guy is funny as fuck.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340...28,00.html
Quote:Jewish comedian who plays Ukrainian president on TV runs for the job.
From screen to reality: Vladimir Zelenskiy, who hosts Ukraine's most popular comedy show, surprised everyone when he announced his candidacy for head of state, but most recent polls put him in second place in the March 2019 vote.
When life imitates art: A Jewish comedian who plays the president of Ukraine in a hit TV show is now actually running for the position in real life. Vladimir Zelenskiy, who stars in "Servant of the People," has founded a political party of the same name, and recent polls even put him in second place in the March 2019 vote.
Zelenskiy stunned the country's political establishment last week when he announced his candidacy. In "Servant of the People," he plays a schoolteacher who suddenly finds himself running the country when a video of his tirade against government corruption goes viral.
Initial polling placed Zelenskiy in second place with 15% of the public's support. Former prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko was ranked in first place with 18% of the votes. Yuri Boiko comes in third with 11.8%, and Anatoliy Hrytsenko was placed fourth with 11.2% of the public's votes. The incumbent, President Petro Poroshenko, was placed fifth with a meager 8.6%. According to the polls, Zelenskiy is considered the most viable of the presidential candidates, attracting mostly young voters.
Zelenskiy, 40, was born in Krivoy Rog, a city in the Dnipropetrovsk region of Ukraine. In recent years, he has hosted Ukranian hit morning television show "Quarter 95" on the "1+1" television channel owned by Ukrainian-Israeli billionaire Ihor Kolomoyskyi, who is at odds with Poroshenko.
The comedian slams all politicians on his shows and blames the government for Ukraine's economic crisis. He is considered one of Ukraine's most popular personas, and his hit TV show, which also has a large viewing audience from Israel and Russia, receives the highest ratings in the country.
If polls in Ukraine are accurate, then Zelenskiy is likely to run against Tymoshenko in the elections' second round.
The Facebook page for Zelenskiy's TV show features a picture of the Jewish comedian visiting a synagogue in Ukraine with friends, along with the caption: "the Jerusalem gang."
Zelenskiy is Jewish through both his parents and even lays tefillin. He visited Israel in the past as part of his television show and even speaks a few words of Hebrew. One of his famous sketch acts makes fun of an Israeli clinic in Kiev.
I made it to Kyiv a few days ago. I have a cute english speaking girl that is down to meet tonight.(tinder)Hopefully I dont get catfished. Does anyone know a good spot to go out with a girl on saturday night in Kyiv? I Have a date tonight but I am trying to figure out where to bring her lol. I have never been out in this city, I was thinking skybar based on google.
(02-02-2019 11:45 AM)TravelingBodybuilder Wrote: I made it to Kyiv a few days ago. I have a cute english speaking girl that is down to meet tonight.(tinder)Hopefully I dont get catfished. Does anyone know a good spot to go out with a girl on saturday night in Kyiv? I Have a date tonight but I am trying to figure out where to bring her lol. I have never been out in this city, I was thinking skybar based on google.
I would recommend barmandictat -
https://barmandictat.bar/ - A bit hard to find the place and prices are high comparing to other bars in kiev but it is an elegant bar, offers live music and lovely atmosphere, english speaking waiters..etc
(02-03-2019 04:49 AM)KingOfMoscow Wrote: (02-02-2019 11:45 AM)TravelingBodybuilder Wrote: I made it to Kyiv a few days ago. I have a cute english speaking girl that is down to meet tonight.(tinder)Hopefully I dont get catfished. Does anyone know a good spot to go out with a girl on saturday night in Kyiv? I Have a date tonight but I am trying to figure out where to bring her lol. I have never been out in this city, I was thinking skybar based on google.
I would recommend barmandictat - https://barmandictat.bar/ - A bit hard to find the place and prices are high comparing to other bars in kiev but it is an elegant bar, offers live music and lovely atmosphere, english speaking waiters..etc
Thanks. I will check it out next weekend hopefully. I got flaked on last night lol so I stayed in.
I麓d also love some advice from the more experienced guys on here.
I am going to be in Kyiv for a few days from Friday on and then travel to Kharkiv, but also just for a few days.
The purpose of the trip had nothing to do with pursuing girls, but I figured since I am already there, it wouldn麓t hurt to check if something is possible.
Now I skimmed the thread here and it doesn麓t seem like it麓s a good place to pick up women fast.
I have a decent Instagram, so I might try to connect that to Tinder and give it a try.
Also I麓ll be going out Friday and Saturday and might make something happen there.
Do you have any suggestions, where to go out during night time as a solo foreigner?
From what I have read here, the only shot is probably to hit on girls in my hostel, not on native Ukrainean girls.
Beirut 路 2019-02-03 13:10:00 路 #5139
^where did you read that
(02-03-2019 01:10 PM)Beirut Wrote: ^where did you read that
Are you referring to my last sentence?
I read multiple times that girls in Ukraine are conservative and you need to build a lot of comfort over multiple dates. Since I just stay for a few days in Kyiv, that obviously doesn麓t work for me.
Ukraine is easier than much of the Balkans but harder than Poland for example.
There will always be the low hanging fruit in Ukraine, if you're on a short trip you might just be happy to get your flag rather than spend time chasing a model
edlefou 路 2019-02-04 14:32:00 路 #5142
Ukrainians are experts at slow-roasting to make sure you're not on a short-term bang trip.
This can be frustrating because the pussy seems like it's just around the corner and then all of a sudden you get some bullshit about exams or getting sick.
Try to make it happen, but don't make it your main priority or rearrange things because it seems the bang is imminent. You'll be disappointed.
One night stands are possible. 3 dates is the norm.
Thanks for the replies!
That麓s what I am going to do then, enjoy my trip and try to make something happen. If it does, perfect. If it doesn麓t, that麓s also fine.
Regarding the clubs, I think I麓ll check out the Club Closer next weekend. Probably not the best for getting to know girls, but should be fun anyway.
You can still get one night stands in ukraine that dont look like hideous creatures. I just got here last week and I had ONS yesterday with an english speaking girl that I met on tinder after the first date at a bar for 3 or 4 hours. And she was not piss poor quality. But she was no miss ukraine either. But going on vacation for a week or 2 and going after only model looking girls is retarded. You can private message me for her tinder photo/her pic in my bedroom naked from a ninja photo to see the quality since it is against the rules to post it publicly...nothing to brag about just sharing my ONS experience.
But it is not the norm based on other posts in this thread. I mean my other date that I was on, I got like 3 bird pecks on her lips because she wouldnt kiss me back. But I only went for the kisses while we were in the uber on the way back I should have been more aggressive with this one early on, but we all make mistakes. The girl that i banged, rejected my first two kisses too before she gave in. I think it is their culture to always reject the men's kiss the first or second time on dates. Ukraine is a unique place.
(02-07-2019 07:22 PM)TravelingBodybuilder Wrote: You can still get one night stands in ukraine that dont look like hideous creatures. I just got here last week and I had ONS yesterday with an english speaking girl that I met on tinder after the first date at a bar for 3 or 4 hours. And she was not piss poor quality. But she was no miss ukraine either. But going on vacation for a week or 2 and going after only model looking girls is retarded. You can private message me for her tinder photo/her pic in my bedroom naked from a ninja photo to see the quality since it is against the rules to post it publicly...nothing to brag about just sharing my ONS experience.
But it is not the norm based on other posts in this thread. I mean my other date that I was on, I got like 3 bird pecks on her lips because she wouldnt kiss me back. But I only went for the kisses while we were in the uber on the way back I should have been more aggressive with this one early on, but we all make mistakes. The girl that i banged, rejected my first two kisses too before she gave in. I think it is their culture to always reject the men's kiss the first or second time on dates. Ukraine is a unique place.
Thank you for your help and congrats on the girl, she is really cute.
I basically did what I wrote and didn麓t focus on girls. Tried to make something happened but couldn麓t yet. Language barrier here is a real problem, but it麓s allright, my trip is still good.
I'm an over 40 guy thinking about possibly moving to Ukraine one day.
Not so much interested in SNLs and would rather find a girlfriend there. What cities are great for daygaming and would offer me the best chance to find that 20-something girl who get stars in her eyes from a good-looking, older American man with some money?
Odessa is the place for you, go to the Irish Pub and they'll be all over you!
sjack 路 2019-02-11 10:42:00 路 #5148
Please stay away. You fucking whitetrash angloid boomers already infest the place enough during the summer