Post: #1

Sorry if some of this overlaps with what has been written before. This is because I read all the sheets on the forum before heading out.

I will start out by saying that my experience was most similar to Roosh's writings and also Rudebwoy's, who I believe visited about five years ago. I didn't have similiar experiences to Spalex, who wrote a (admittedly hilarious) sheet here and which I found unfair to the Norwegians.

Roosh's posts on Norway are here, here and, here

I found everything that Roosh said was true. Though what he wrote was unpolitically correct if you go to Oslo you will see why he wrote it and why it was to mention the points he did in such detail, which I will discuss myself. You cannot go to Oslo without understanding them.

Overview

Oslo is not a particularly nice city, it is very expensive and the bars and restaurants are not great. However the people are very friendly, innocent and kind. The women are incredibly beautiful, however the rape wave touched on by Roosh makes things extremely difficult for game, and seems to have affected things since he visited in 2012. If you are considering visiting I suggest you read through all his posts on Return of Kings, they are not the sort of things a guide book would mention but are essential reading.

Food

Very expensive, poor quality generally. Service is not great and generally slow. I would suggest eating at McDonalds or in supermarkets as you will not be able to afford to eat out unless you are willing to spend say $150 on a meal for two without drinks.

Transport

Great. Buses, trams and a subway system that is efficient and well-run. No need to rent a car.

The locals/competition

Norwegian people are very nice people. I actually felt bad from them when I got there and saw how naive they will appear to foreigners. Their subway system doesn't require turnstiles, they have no caution for potential criminals (i.e they don't show the 'guard' that people in NY, London, Paris etc, have) and they are very helpful.

There is a reason why they top the human development index. They have a compassionate society in which they have well-invested their oil money and they are very well-educated compared to other countries, i.e. they are able to discuss philosophy, politics, etc regardless of their level of education or social background.

They are a very reasonable people who do not exhibit extreme views that Roosh described in Denmark (which I have never been to) and I actually liked their Janteloven as it dissuades people from being excessively flashy or boastful. They are very rich and it shows, most white Norwegians have a lifestyle other westerners can only dream of. Big house, nice cars, frequent holidays, etc.

They are heavily into fitness, nature and travelling, so I got on extremely well with them.

I thought very highly of the Norwegians and while there are some things I find disagreeable about their society they are truly some of the friendlier people you could meet. You will never worry about being ripped off, conned, etc and they rarely engage in violence even when drunk, although they are a bit boisterous.

It's no exaggeration to say they have created a neo-utopia and I have great respect for them and their nation. They are very humble and somewhat shy.

The women


The women in Norway are, it is no exaggeration to say - some of the best-looking women you will ever see. A woman who is considered a 4 in Norway would be considered a 7 in the anglosphere.

While you don't see 'heavy' dating down in Norway the women are generally more attractive than the men. You will see a guy with mediocre clothing and poor social skills and bad skin with a woman that would be at least a 6 or 7 in the USA/UK. In those nations they would be incels. I was often stunned at some of the couplings as it is a country where a guy with decent looks and a reasonable personality with have a stunning girlfriend. Even ugly guys get women far better-looking then they would elsewhere. No wonder Norwegians are the happiest in the world! Even the women in their 30s and 40s were very attractive and a Norwegian man can't imagine a society where the women are not all beautiful, feminine and in shape! I can't imagine how they would taking living in the USA/UK. They are however well dressed and go to the gym (this is not Russia) but despite this the women almost always date down significantly from an Anglo pov. (From their pov all Anglo men date down significantly of course. I suspect they are right and we are wrong)

If you have game and are reasonably looking you should not struggle. Wierdly though many of the men are very good-looking this will not work against you. The standard of beauty there is so high that a woman considered a 6 in Norway would be a 9 in the UK/USA. I am not exaggerating when I say that Scarlett Johannson would only be considered 'above average' in Norway.

The beta/alpha thing is interesting. Unlike the alpha fucks/beta bucks model of feminism and gender relations in the USA/UK where you have to act super alpha and be jacked to get laid, in Norway the women generally have alot of time for what we would see as betas. This means men have to act less aggressive to get laid and makes the males as a whole less aggressive and into being jacked Jersey Shore types as it won't appeal to the females. Their socialism model extends to giving beta males the time of day and it results in a harmonious society. We always take the piss out of women that teach their sons to be beta and kind to women but in Norway it seems the women have collectively decided to make sure such men get laid so they can continue to have their high standard of living. I don't know.

They dress well, go to the gym regularly and are actually sweet and feminine (compared to the anglosphere, not a Thai). Complaining about Norwegian women if you are from the Anglosphere is like a homeless guy complaining that the $50,000 you gave him wasn't in suitable denominations. They generally have children in their late twenties and the country has the highest birthrate of any western nation, almost everyone has kids and many have very big families!

The problem


Roosh mentioned it in his posts but it is worth mentioning again - the rape wave. Oslo has an extremely high crime rate for a western country, and most of it is unreported.

The city had a wave of rape after rape after rape in the last few years. It is a tiny city of 600,000 in which one violent rape would be shocking, and yet a series of violent rapes have traumatised the society. It must be said that the men carrying them out are almost all Muslims from Somalia, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

The problem is so bad that the hotels in Oslo - WARN WOMEN THAT THEY MIGHT BE RAPED - and actually give them rape alarms when they go out (The Radisson Scandinavia started doing that last year). This is no bullshit , these are violent rapes where the women are attacked and violently assaulted and then gang-raped.

To understand the context you have to understand that Norwegian women dress very sexily, often dressing half-naked in the summer with booty shorts and bras. Norwegian men are told not to leer at women, to take care of them when are drunk, that women can dress however they want and that they should not be judged. These are all highly laudable goals. The women are also told they can have sex with whoever they want (which they of course can)

However the problem is that men from Somalia and Pakistan are certainly not taught this and when the two cultures clash it ends in disaster. They are told that women that show their bodies are whores that shame their families and that sex outside of marriage is a disgrace. Norwegian women (used to, not anymore) will go out and get drunk wearing whatever they want and the men - who are mainly sexually frustrated (this is a country which comes down very hard on prostitution, the fine is something like $40,000) - then take their chance to attack the women. During the day you can also see Arabic and Pakistani men stare and make comments to women on the main street (Karl Johans gate).

This has had a massive effect on society and how women behave. Teenage girls no longer go out without their parents or in groups of friends. Women often won't go out shopping without their friends or males. And at nighttime they will only go out with big groups or with males with them. Greek Kamaki once wrote that countries that have been affected by Islamic people become very conservative in order to protect their women. This seems to have happened very quickly in Norway - and speeded up even since Roosh visited.

What this means is that day game is difficult as women there are used to the Muslim men harassing them and not used to 'game'. However when you do day game it can work very well as they are generally not used to day approaches and they are very polite even if they are not interested. God help you if you look middle eastern or south asian, it will be more tricky and you will probably need to emphasise you are not Muslim (just being honest here)

At nighttime men now furiously guard their women due to the rape problem, and women will rarely go out without males protecting them, something I am sure did not happen ten years ago. Norwegian males are no pussies and society has changed very quickly. You will need some social circle game to make it work as they have changed very quickly as a society to one in which men protect their women from foreigners if you look the wrong way. As much as we slag off feminism, the wave seemed to have made both men and women more nationalistic, and made women more 'loyal' to their men.

The ones seen in this way are south asians and Middle Easterners and East Africans. If you look northern European or W African you should be fine, however the super-cautious vibe is there and women now assume if they don't know you that you may be a rapist.

This is not an unreasonable assumption given what has happened in Oslo but be aware that whatever people officially say, Oslo is moving towards a 'culture of honour' that will soon resemble the Balkans as angry Norwegian men protect their women. You will think I am trolling but I'm not, Norwegian men are seriously pissed at what has happened and it is truly a disgrace how the women have been treated by the newcomers from Somalia, Pakistan, etc.

An 'aggressive beta' game (described by Roosh in Bang Denmark )would work the best. This is all very odd but not surprising from a historical or psychological perspective.

Clubs

Lawo - near Karl Johans street. Very busy and probably the best choice if I had to suggest one

Hard Rock Cafe - avoid, full of old people

Ayers Brugge - an area full of bars by the port. Very nice, and so dress up and look the part (preppy)

Grunerlookka - the hipster area. The data sheets said it was the place to be but the fact it is in a dangerous area seems to have made it less popular with women. There is a club Bla which plays salsa and hip hop and loads of hipster ones. If you have more of a hipster/alternative look I would try here.

Conclusion

Norway is a great place and the people are fantastic. However their experiment in multiculturalism has produced a city with an extremely high rape rate, which has a terrible affect on the social dynamics and makes it very hard for outsiders looking to get laid.

The fact that there is a great hostility to foreigners - due to their poor experience with immigration - may make it far more difficult than it was as little as three or four years ago. I would suggest day game, building a social circle through befriending local dudes or Tinder.

This is not as easy a place as it probably once was and the tragic ending of Oslo - a feminist country that now has created a society that is so unsafe for women - is something that is extremely sad. I have read other reports on here saying that a similiar thing in Paris and Brussels has had a similiar effect and made social circle game the primary means of gaming.

While you can still get laid in Oslo, the super-protective environment around women that has had to develop may make it feel more like trying to game in a war zone than a country that tops the human development index.

C

Post: #2

Interesting write-up OP.

(06-23-2014 02:59 PM)Crackshot Wrote:  The standard of beauty there is so high that a woman considered a 6 in Norway would be a 9 in the UK/USA.

This is simply not true though.

Post: #3

^ I want to hear spalex's response.

OP can you post some pics of girls that are the 4's of Norway?

Exagerration never pans out well on this board.

Valuable insight into the living expense and guarded women there otherwise.

Post: #4

Sorry I didn't take pics of chicks maybe I should

http://www.returnofkings.com/1687/9-thin...gian-girls

This post by Roosh I thought was an exaggeration but it's not. I could go for months in the UK without seeing girls like those two at the top of the post. You will see fifty chicks like that everyday. Seeing stunning women constantly at first is shocking but then becomes something you expect, like when blu Ray came out and dvds looked like shit

I am not exaggerating, a Norwegian 6 is a blonde girl with good skin and a good body but no supermodel face woukd be seen as average. Obesity is non existent

In the UK a super fit blonde girl with good skin and a good body would def be a 9

A lot of women in Norway I realised actually thought I was out of their league which was mind blowing as I came expecting to be seen as average or below average. Good looking girls go out with good looking guys but the bar is way lower than the Anglo world.

Post: #5

Norwegian girls are nice, no doubt and hotter than most Anglo girls. To use the number ranking system is a bit misleading, i don't recall seeing many girls like the ones above.
I had a nice time there, but the cost and boredom of the place would not make me return.
I got more Norwegian flags in London than Norway.

Post: #6

Seriously doubtful of this write up and poster. Sounds like a propaganda piece. Both regarding the exaggeration of Norwegian beauty and the rape scare.

Thread starter has 9/10 of his posts in race threads. I smell a... wait for it...

Post: #7

Living and coming from Norway. There was a rape wave a few years ago, I'm not sure Oslo was worst though(Don't have any data on this, just based on what I can remember from the news etc).

Norway have taken in an extreme amount of refugees for the most of my life. A lot are from the likes of Pakistan who are now 2nd/3rd generation and there are many from Turkey as well. During the last years it's been mainly Somalis, which are some of the nicest people I meet.

Most people of my generation have grown up with refugees from all over the world.

There was a wave where the amount of rapes were piling up quickly. I'm not so sure you should blame it on an entire people. As far as I remember, a few got taken advantage of when taking a cab drunk and alone(There hasn't been an incidence I know of(or remember more like it) since). There were of course other ways it went down. At that time, people were nervous and edgy.

My point being. We have grown up with different cultural values around us, and I do not recognize what you(thread starter) are writing about Norwegian men, all though I do agree that quite a few of them cock block when strangers approach someone they are interested in. The Norwegian people do not hate foreigners as you make it look like.

Because of what happened, girls are more aware and take precautions. Especially when going home. Which you would expect.

When it comes to your rankings, I disagree to a larger extent. Using your comparison of UK/USA where I have been a few times. I would say I've generally have had to lower my standards, but that might just be down too my game being beginner or the fact that most likely a different approach is required.


"Norwegian men are told not to leer at women, to take care of them when are drunk, that women can dress however they want and that they should not be judged"

Haha... That made me laugh.

(06-23-2014 05:31 PM)Vicious Wrote:  Seriously doubtful of this write up and poster. Sounds like a propaganda piece. Both regarding the exaggeration of Norwegian beauty and the rape scare.

Thread starter has 9/10 of his posts in race threads. I smell a... wait for it...

Post: #8

@baga

I was not implying Norwegian hate foreigners, far from it! They are very tolerant and pc however the crime wave has certainly affected their behaviour. I thought very well of Norway and its people.

One difference between your country and the USA/UK is that you have not had the same mix of high and low quality immigrants which I think has affected attitudes.




@Vicious my post started by saying my experience mirrored those of Roosh and Rudebwoy, I can't see why that would be trolling. The only poster I thought was harsh was Spalex

Post: #9

I wouldn't say he is exaggerating on the women. I prefer to say that you will be attracted to 80% of the women here.
In summer time, a quick walk around town and you will be flabbergasted. Its just like... You have never seen so few ugly chicks in your life.
I do suspect that ugly chicks all hang out in their ugly circles in a basement / dive bar somewhere.


I will touch on the rape.
When I first moved here 3 years ago I was told (over and over) that at least 1 woman is raped every night during the summer months in Oslo.
Whats even more fucked up is that the majority of this happened in the gardens outside the kings palace in the middle of the fucking city!
I don't know any statistics or real information but I think that the majority of these guys get away with it. Still, after living here for 3 years, I could not describe a Norwegian police officers uniform to you. There is just no presence here.
But yeah, you don't have to be an idiot to say "I'm not letting my girlfriend walk home alone from the club tonight!"
Also, telling a woman that you will walk her home for safety because of the rape thing comes off as bad game, stranger danger is high and she will probably decline your offer. However, these girls are thirsty, and if you find yourself talking with her outside of her building, its game one!

Side rape story:
Last fucking week! There was a girl that got attacked outside of my building. I live on the second floor, in what i would call a rich, white neighborhood (Bogstadveien in Majorstua).
I woke up at 2 am to a girl screaming and hear the footsteps of her running to the main road. Then I heard a.... I am going to say pakistani / arab sounding voice scream "Bitch! Get back!". I was asleep and rubbing my eyes like a zombie. Then I heard a car speed off.
I looked out my window and seen a girl crying in 7/11 with some people around her.
At first I thought some drunk white chick just tried to run from a taxi. But I couldn't get back to sleep, and I eventually put the pieces together. So I looked out my window again and saw a police car with some people around it outside the 7/11

The rape is real.
Here is a news report from a few years ago (Subtitled in English) saying that 100% of rape cases are committed by men of middle eastern looking appearances.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoFewFxf2wk
Anyway, what pisses me off is that the governments response is to import as many more refugees as possible and up their welfare checks.
No matter how many studies that come out that say 80% of them are unemployed and don't plan on getting a job. Or that 95% of them are actually Financial refugees.
Living in Europe has given me a strong interest in right wing politics.

All this stuff has given Norwegians a bad attitude towards muslims. I think they are all racist deep down inside, but wont show it all to often.
There's things in the news about immigrants complaining that nobody wants to hire them, and I am not surprised. I have worked for 3 different companies in the last 3 years and I have only worked with 1 black guy, and he was Indian and had lived here for his whole life, had his degree at Oslo university etc etc.
It seems that people just don't want to / couldn't be bothered to have an open mind and give them the benefit of the doubt.
But to be fair, name 1 time and place in the history of earth when muslims have integrated and not left a huge divide in society.

The guys here are very good looking, but in no way are any of them alpha males. Its seriously embarrassing. Sure they all work out, but they are soft cocks.
Who needs to learn game when the ugly / desperate chicks in your town are still a 6?
You will need social circle game because nobody ever goes out on a group of 2 or 3.

Post: #10

@Spalex

The lack of policing was stunning as they are not present on trains, City centre at night, Etc. They are still policing as if Norway was a homogenous low crime society. Yet it was honestly the most dangerous western city I have ever been to and everyone I met complained about the crime problem.

I have travelled to some of the worst Authoratarian-led countries in Africa and the middle east which honestly felt much safer as I know in those countries if something happens to me the police would take violent action to solve the problem. The place Oslo reminds me of is Johannesburg due to the crime and fear of rape.

Women told me they take a lot of precautions going out at night and during the day there are some areas (Gronland, the train station) that they avoid altogether due to risk of assault

All in all it makes it a very tough place to game, speaking to Norwegians it seems it wasn't always like this and women would go out as they pleased during the day and at night could get drunk and go home with men with no problems. I am curious as to what it is like in other cities in Norway.

Post: #11

If you can just hide all your opinions about Norway when talking to women, you will do fine I think.
But for me, that is a lot harder said than done.

Most other big cities like Bergen, Stavanger, Ålesund and Trondheim.... A lot nicer places. Seriously, Oslo is the worst city in the country.
But the people are exactly the same.
The majority of the young girls you are gaming in Oslo come from these cities or other small towns out in the country anyway.

Post: #12

I was recently in Oslo. My perception of the girls? I think many are cute, some attractive, only a few would be considered hot. I think the average Oslo girl was a 7, definitely doable. But the quality of women walking around is not exceptionable. It is no better than any USA city. I would not go to Oslo to meet hot women, there just aren't that many over an 8. However, I did thoroughly enjoy their personality. Most were very friendly and interested in meeting an american. I think their friendly nature gave them a point in my book (raising a 6 to 7, a 7 to an 8) Oslo is not known as a party city, and that was true. In summary, I liked most of the girls I met in Oslo, definitely would have banged most of the ones I met, but the quality was not high enough that I would fly all the way there looking for tail.

Post: #13

That's depressing.

Post: #14

An average of 7 is not normal in the USA. If the average American man could net a physically fit and attractive blonde in her prime I suspect this forum would never have existed

Post: #15

Isn't that statement a bit contradictory!

You say the average girl is a 7 but you were not blowing away by the talent. I don't believe that is representative of an American city.

Post: #16

If you go downtown Orlando Florida, the average girl out clubbing is a 7. That is not true for smaller cities. Orlando has a huge undergraduate college campus. So you may be correct. A 7 is average where I am, but may be above average in other US cities. Living in Orlando has probably distorted what my definition of average is and I will adjust my postings accordingly.

Post: #17

So if you went to the mall in Orlando and took a sample of ten girls, the average would be a 7?

Post: #18

(06-26-2014 08:12 PM)ohionukes Wrote:  If you go downtown Orlando Florida, the average girl out clubbing is a 7. That is not true for smaller cities. Orlando has a huge undergraduate college campus. So you may be correct. A 7 is average where I am, but may be above average in other US cities. Living in Orlando has probably distorted what my definition of average is and I will adjust my postings accordingly.

You must be the first American I have seen on here to say that USA women are of a superior standard to most of Eastern Europe and Scandinavia....something is not right.

Post: #19

I've lived in Norway for a year and I agree on basically all your points. It was especially interesting that you pointed out the naivety, innocence and utopian characteristics of Norway. I found the people to be very honest, straight-forward, non-judgmental, and genuine. It seems like everyone has a pretty simple, idealistic worldview, corroborating with the simplicity of their language. Slyness and treachery are not found in their mindsets, and also there are some other absent thought processes, like urgency. Most Norwegians have never had to really worry about anything in their entire lives. It truly is a fascinating culture.

Also what you said about women preferring beta behavior is completely true. I was wondering why my aggressive alpha game wasn't generating results and I figured out that the alpha characteristics which work so well on spoiled American women are met with skepticism and disgust in a society where everyone is more straight-forward and you are likely to be perceived at your word. Being a jerk, which makes American girls wet and gets their hamsters spinning is not pleasing to the feminine, confident and kind girls of Norway who would rather have a genuine interaction and less games. That being said, of course it is still recommended to be humorous and employ mild teasing, but the great thing is you can get away with being nice and genuine. I actually asked a girl who I became friends with what made her like a guy, and she basically said that if he was nice and charming to her and she liked spending time with him that was it. Guys here extract pussy by being around and not acting objectionable until it is the right moment to strike. Another great thing is ability for an average guy to get an attractive girl just by being nice and interesting to talk to. I actually really love Norway. It is certainly a culture shock when arriving from the highly competitive and douchey west. Talking to American girls again has been eye-openingly terrible.

Post: #20

Yeah, I just thought that my game had changed, or I was just really confident, or i didn't give a fuck and was just myself or the girls were just whores.
Either way... I can't say I have had to use much game or think before opening my mouth when going out to get pussy in Norway.

Anyway, there is not enough brain altering drugs in the world to make anyone agree with Ohionukes saying that American women compare in any way to Scandinavian women.
The only thing that is good about American girls is that they are dumb as shit and will believe anything that you tell them.

Post: #21

(06-26-2014 11:51 PM)American Jesus Wrote:  Also what you said about women preferring beta behavior is completely true. I was wondering why my aggressive alpha game wasn't generating results and I figured out that the alpha characteristics which work so well on spoiled American women are met with skepticism and disgust in a society where everyone is more straight-forward and you are likely to be perceived at your word. Being a jerk, which makes American girls wet and gets their hamsters spinning is not pleasing to the feminine, confident and kind girls of Norway who would rather have a genuine interaction and less games.

Been living in Norway all my life, and i actually find it to be the opposite. I have had huge success with alpha cocky-funny game, as to my previous beta behaviour. The norm for men in Norway has always been to be beta and woman-pleasing towards females. I think it greatly depends on the type of woman you are trying to pull. Women are so used to the beta tendencies displayed by Norwegian men, that when you come off as different or "alpha" and spit some solid game, their panties immediately drop.

Post: #22

(06-27-2014 11:37 AM)drengr Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 11:51 PM)American Jesus Wrote:  Also what you said about women preferring beta behavior is completely true. I was wondering why my aggressive alpha game wasn't generating results and I figured out that the alpha characteristics which work so well on spoiled American women are met with skepticism and disgust in a society where everyone is more straight-forward and you are likely to be perceived at your word. Being a jerk, which makes American girls wet and gets their hamsters spinning is not pleasing to the feminine, confident and kind girls of Norway who would rather have a genuine interaction and less games.

Been living in Norway all my life, and i actually find it to be the opposite. I have had huge success with alpha cocky-funny game, as to my previous beta behaviour. The norm for men in Norway has always been to be beta and woman-pleasing towards females. I think it greatly depends on the type of woman you are trying to pull. Women are so used to the beta tendencies displayed by Norwegian men, that when you come off as different or "alpha" and spit some solid game, their panties immediately drop.

Of course I would never claim that pure beta behavior is advisable, but the level of alpha cockiness necessary or recommended is in my opinion far lower than in North America. Being a little cocky and funny is good while mixing it with general pleasantness but in America you pretty much have to be almost a total asshole. My natural behavior is slightly cocky and teasing but still generally intellectual and pleasant and it seems like that is what works the best in Norway. I guess I described it as more beta simply because I no longer found the need to try to be an exceptionally cocky "alpha".

Post: #23

(06-27-2014 11:37 AM)drengr Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 11:51 PM)American Jesus Wrote:  Also what you said about women preferring beta behavior is completely true. I was wondering why my aggressive alpha game wasn't generating results and I figured out that the alpha characteristics which work so well on spoiled American women are met with skepticism and disgust in a society where everyone is more straight-forward and you are likely to be perceived at your word. Being a jerk, which makes American girls wet and gets their hamsters spinning is not pleasing to the feminine, confident and kind girls of Norway who would rather have a genuine interaction and less games.

Been living in Norway all my life, and i actually find it to be the opposite. I have had huge success with alpha cocky-funny game, as to my previous beta behaviour. The norm for men in Norway has always been to be beta and woman-pleasing towards females. I think it greatly depends on the type of woman you are trying to pull. Women are so used to the beta tendencies displayed by Norwegian men, that when you come off as different or "alpha" and spit some solid game, their panties immediately drop.

I actually did consider the possibility that I am used to behaving in such an alpha manner when talking to Anglos that when I try and be 'beta' it is only in relative terms.

Nonetheless Norwegian women seem much more open to 'nice guys' and I did not see or hear of many Norwegian 'nice guys' being bitter at life or unable to get chicks.

Are you Norwegian? I have thought deeply about it and I am convinced the very nature of Norwegian society and the disliking of ostentatious behaviour and being greedy leads to a more compassionated dating market.

Post: #24

(06-23-2014 04:07 PM)Espresso Wrote:  Interesting write-up OP.

(06-23-2014 02:59 PM)Crackshot Wrote:  The standard of beauty there is so high that a woman considered a 6 in Norway would be a 9 in the UK/USA.

This is simply not true though.

Agreed. There are definitely some pretty women, but I didn't notice any women who stopped me in my tracks when I was there. I think Swedish and Finnish women are better looking than Norwegians, and Estonian women are way better than Swedish and Finnish. But I agree that women in Norway are generally hotter than Americans

Post: #25

Good post from OP, here is my short take after 2 weekend visits lately:

Forget Oslo, the multicultural experiement they are doing there is not working very well. Many things are wrong, but mostly, this city does not give me the feeling of being in Norway. Add some of the OP's points, and you have the feeling that this place was better 10-20 years ago, and I can confirm it was. Other cities are better but smaller.

But this is not the biggest problem, who cares about those things if the girls are hot and available?

Well, I know that Oslo girls can be really hot, but I failed to see many, if any of them. And I was strolling up and down the main streets, running from one bar/club after the other screening. All girls were wearing the jorts (cut jeans) as mentioned in another Oslo tread, or they had the tight pants with very high waist, which would be good on slim girls, but to be honest the asses those jeans were showing were mostly too big. I was surprised to realize this.

A few nice ones in the bars, but way too few to make me feel good.
Most of the dudes trying to look the same, with skinny pants, sort of hipster type look with beard and same hairdo. Its like they went out of their way trying not to look different.

Finally met 2 hot girls (They were of course immigrants and not Norwegian..), but here was problem again. Most places you need to be above 20 or 22 to enter, and there was just not such a place in town. Got kicked out from a bar I entered, after I bought drinks, when they then realized what was going on, having found out about the girls age while I was buying...Got rejected at tons of places due to this, but we didnt give up and had a good time in the end. But hook up with anyone below 20, and you will have a problem taking them anywhere out for drinks.

Add to that, everything is very expensive, and I can think of many better places to go. But a hot Oslo girl is still as hot as it can get, but there were just not many of those.